Major thanks to The Hated One for coming on this video--He's doing awesome stuff and I know people have asked for this for a long time! Go subscribe and check him out on his channel 💪💙 The Hated One: ruclips.net/channel/UCjr2bPAyPV7t35MvcgT3W8Q The Hated One VPN Myths (Feat. Techlore): ruclips.net/video/gTS17WzsZz8/видео.html
Tor is better for privacy but it's not better if I want to watch some video (RUclips or other streaming platform) that is blocked in your country (doesn't matter where you live). This is why I use VPN for, to pretend I'm from different country. To fool streaming services to watch content that otherwise would be painfully slow to watch via Tor. Even Tor project ask users to not watch or download huge files via Tor or network speed for everyone would be crap.
@Red Rain ohhh, thanks, there is quite a number of varying articles that I read about this and i dont understand much 'cause i'm not that knowledgeable about this things. That's why I'm thankful for this vids since it makes it easier to understand
Tor is better for privacy. But it's really slow. So i usually use vpn with firefox. I think most of cases vpn with firefox guarantees your privacy enough.
Loved this video! What do you think about orchids? Can't believe it's been 3 1/2 years since we spoke and you've come a long way hehe 👌🏽Keep pushing these videos, you've been killing it, amigo! 😁
These are the only reasons (that I can think of) why you should use a VPN, instead of the TOR network: 1) Speed. VPNs will be faster than the TOR network. If your VPN service is not faster than the TOR network, then that should be straightened out with your VPN service provider. 2) Your privacy needs are important, but not excessively so. There is no way to confirm any claims made by a VPN service. Also, unless you are an expert at international law, you have no way to really know whether or not some server in some county has reciprocal, jurisdictional agreements with your own country. So if a court orders that VPN service to keep logs, and that court includes a gag order about saving logs and monitoring, etc, then you could be monitored, etc, and never know (or get a knock on your door if/when caught doing something illegal -- which is not something you should ever do). 3) Your understanding of all of your choices is over your head, and you do not realize the risks of using a VPN service. 4) The internet servers, that you wish to connect to, have blacklisted TOR exit nodes. So when you use TOR, you are not able to access some sites or services. If this is the case, then unless speed is important, I suggest that you use TOR to login to your VPN service. This will stop sites and services from seeing TOR, and will allow you to connect to wherever you want to connect. But why go through TOR to connect to your VPN service? This is a good idea, if you paid for your VPN service, anonymously. If you connect directly to your VPN service, then the VPN company knows who you are. If you connect to your VPN service via TOR, then the VPN company does not know who you are (unless you did something like pay with your credit card, or signed up directly from your computer and they have your IP address associated with your account). But if you paid for your VPN service, anonymously, and did so via TOR, then the use of your VPN service via TOR will keep you anonymous and will side-step internet sites/services from blocking you. Should you ever go from your VPN service to TOR to the outside world? I can think of no reason to ever do that. I can also think of reasons why that would be bad. Cheers!
@Red Rain Using VPN over TOR will ruin your anonymity, if the VPN provider knows who you are, based on your login credentials. If you created your VPN account via TOR, and paid with untraceable crypto currency (which is another hurdle), then the VPN provider will not know who you are. Under that above conditions, the only way to use your VPN service, without giving yourself away, is to do so via TOR. Any time you connect directly from your computer to your VPN service, the VPN company will know who you are. Normally, you should avoid using a VPN service, due to the ease of making a mistake while signing up and paying for the service. But if the service (let's call it "SomeSite"), that you are ultimately trying to connect to, will not allow connections from TOR, then your only choices are 1) never using SomeSite, 2) connecting directly from your computer, 3) connect from your computer to your VPN to SomeSite, or 4) connect from your computer to TOR to VPN to SomeSite. #4, if done properly, will, in some cases, be the only way to connect to SomeSite with anonymity. But to do #4 correctly takes expert level understanding of every connection, as well as using a secure (meaning, not Windows or Mac) operating system, as well as expert knowledge of using crypto currency. Most folks know little about any of the above. Some know a lot about 1 or 2 of the above. Nearly no one knows it all (including me). I know what needs to be done, yet lack the full knowledge of getting it all done. My privacy is important -- but not to the point of jumping through all of these hoops. Cheers!
@Red Rain 1) If you make your browser fingerprint highly unique (or unique -- same thing), then you are defeating the purpose of trying to remain anonymous. Anyone that gives away their identity, in any way (and especially in such an amateur way), will never remain anonymous on-line. They might as well log-in to facebook over VPN and over TOR, etc. Those folks probably never heard of Parot OS, or TAILS OS, or Qubes OS, or Whonix, etc. 2) I will read the article, in the next few days.
I doubt I'll need it, but have considered setting up an open-source VPN on a Pi. TOR is incredibly slow. Can you think of negatives? i know a bit about fingerprints already (in my home tests, Brave browser did better than FF and I saw that my danged fonts made my fingerprint very, very unique) and some of the other identifiers. Any advice on this Pi idea of mine?
One thing where a VPN is useful for me is to use it with Jdownloader. This is something Tor on it's own doesn't do. And as well as for NAS. But i still have a question about Usenet, is there any reliable service? A lot of them cost a lot and give you their "VPN", which I don't need. Because i have a better option. So i wonder should you just stay away or is there any that's worth using, many old files are going down as time goes. And I would love to archive some of the really old stuff that other websites don't touch, mostly because of DMCA or low interest.
I think the same... free means "you are the product", nothing is free and never will be. Security without anonymity = VPN... Anonymity without security = Tor... VPN + Tor = poopoo.
The internet’s and Google -“ You shouldn’t use a vpn with a tor browser, you should only use a vpn when you......” Me- “Hold up , hold up , let me check with Henry ”
Major thanks to The Hated One for coming on this video--He's doing awesome stuff and I know people have asked for this for a long time! Go subscribe and check him out on his channel 💪💙
The Hated One: ruclips.net/channel/UCjr2bPAyPV7t35MvcgT3W8Q
The Hated One VPN Myths (Feat. Techlore): ruclips.net/video/gTS17WzsZz8/видео.html
I prefer YOUR videos, if that is ok with you 😁
@@Remigrator You're dead to me!
You guys are giving people great key informations in the right manner. Congrats 100k!
Hey, Congratulations on 100K !!!
@Techlore and @The Hated One - Is it feasible, practical, possible etc. to use a vpn AND Tor at the same time? Thanks.
The most epic collab ever! Thank you for having me on! Working with you on this video was awesome!
You arent the hated one tho i am
@@ball_handler714lol
@@ball_handler714what u mean braugh?
I absolutely love your videos, keep posting and helping people stay private
I will watch the video now, but the answer is obvious and clear already:
TOR
Use TOR and you will be tracked by the FBI.
This is the best collab of 2020.
Limited edition collab
Techlore x The Hated One
1 of 1
Tor is obviously better, because you can go on the private web(calling it the dark web sounds scary).
Tor is better for privacy but it's not better if I want to watch some video (RUclips or other streaming platform) that is blocked in your country (doesn't matter where you live). This is why I use VPN for, to pretend I'm from different country. To fool streaming services to watch content that otherwise would be painfully slow to watch via Tor. Even Tor project ask users to not watch or download huge files via Tor or network speed for everyone would be crap.
💀💀💀
Thank you! I spread the word about you and THO's channel every time I get the chance.
Both are gem I found on RUclips thanks a lot both of them
Awesome collab! Can you also discuss TOR over VPN and VPN over TOR in the future? Like a comparison, is it good, how to correctly do those?
@Red Rain ohhh, thanks, there is quite a number of varying articles that I read about this and i dont understand much 'cause i'm not that knowledgeable about this things. That's why I'm thankful for this vids since it makes it easier to understand
Tor is better for privacy. But it's really slow. So i usually use vpn with firefox. I think most of cases vpn with firefox guarantees your privacy enough.
Great to see The Hated one with you Tor is the best way to keep your browsing secured thanks for the Review.
Loved this video! What do you think about orchids?
Can't believe it's been 3 1/2 years since we spoke and you've come a long way hehe 👌🏽Keep pushing these videos, you've been killing it, amigo! 😁
The best part is getting a VPN ad before watching this.
Congrats on 100K Subs. Well deserved!
Best youtubers colab!
These are the only reasons (that I can think of) why you should use a VPN, instead of the TOR network:
1) Speed. VPNs will be faster than the TOR network. If your VPN service is not faster than the TOR network, then that should be straightened out with your VPN service provider.
2) Your privacy needs are important, but not excessively so. There is no way to confirm any claims made by a VPN service. Also, unless you are an expert at international law, you have no way to really know whether or not some server in some county has reciprocal, jurisdictional agreements with your own country. So if a court orders that VPN service to keep logs, and that court includes a gag order about saving logs and monitoring, etc, then you could be monitored, etc, and never know (or get a knock on your door if/when caught doing something illegal -- which is not something you should ever do).
3) Your understanding of all of your choices is over your head, and you do not realize the risks of using a VPN service.
4) The internet servers, that you wish to connect to, have blacklisted TOR exit nodes. So when you use TOR, you are not able to access some sites or services. If this is the case, then unless speed is important, I suggest that you use TOR to login to your VPN service. This will stop sites and services from seeing TOR, and will allow you to connect to wherever you want to connect.
But why go through TOR to connect to your VPN service?
This is a good idea, if you paid for your VPN service, anonymously.
If you connect directly to your VPN service, then the VPN company knows who you are.
If you connect to your VPN service via TOR, then the VPN company does not know who you are (unless you did something like pay with your credit card, or signed up directly from your computer and they have your IP address associated with your account). But if you paid for your VPN service, anonymously, and did so via TOR, then the use of your VPN service via TOR will keep you anonymous and will side-step internet sites/services from blocking you.
Should you ever go from your VPN service to TOR to the outside world?
I can think of no reason to ever do that. I can also think of reasons why that would be bad.
Cheers!
@Red Rain Using VPN over TOR will ruin your anonymity, if the VPN provider knows who you are, based on your login credentials.
If you created your VPN account via TOR, and paid with untraceable crypto currency (which is another hurdle), then the VPN provider will not know who you are.
Under that above conditions, the only way to use your VPN service, without giving yourself away, is to do so via TOR.
Any time you connect directly from your computer to your VPN service, the VPN company will know who you are.
Normally, you should avoid using a VPN service, due to the ease of making a mistake while signing up and paying for the service. But if the service (let's call it "SomeSite"), that you are ultimately trying to connect to, will not allow connections from TOR, then your only choices are 1) never using SomeSite, 2) connecting directly from your computer, 3) connect from your computer to your VPN to SomeSite, or 4) connect from your computer to TOR to VPN to SomeSite.
#4, if done properly, will, in some cases, be the only way to connect to SomeSite with anonymity. But to do #4 correctly takes expert level understanding of every connection, as well as using a secure (meaning, not Windows or Mac) operating system, as well as expert knowledge of using crypto currency.
Most folks know little about any of the above. Some know a lot about 1 or 2 of the above. Nearly no one knows it all (including me). I know what needs to be done, yet lack the full knowledge of getting it all done. My privacy is important -- but not to the point of jumping through all of these hoops.
Cheers!
@Red Rain 1) If you make your browser fingerprint highly unique (or unique -- same thing), then you are defeating the purpose of trying to remain anonymous. Anyone that gives away their identity, in any way (and especially in such an amateur way), will never remain anonymous on-line. They might as well log-in to facebook over VPN and over TOR, etc. Those folks probably never heard of Parot OS, or TAILS OS, or Qubes OS, or Whonix, etc.
2) I will read the article, in the next few days.
I doubt I'll need it, but have considered setting up an open-source VPN on a Pi. TOR is incredibly slow. Can you think of negatives? i know a bit about fingerprints already (in my home tests, Brave browser did better than FF and I saw that my danged fonts made my fingerprint very, very unique) and some of the other identifiers.
Any advice on this Pi idea of mine?
I haven't seen a lot of coverage on i2p, using eepsites and staying away from the clearnet.
Congratulations on 100k subscribers !
Congratulations for 100k👍🔥
I am the 100th comment and CONGRATS ON GOING OVER 100K SUBS HENRY!!
Glad to see you two to collab!
A cross-collaboration United the cyber-security cummunity 💪👁️👁️👁️💪
Love from India man
Congratulations on 100K \o/
Love the work! Thanks!
The most ambitious crossover since infinity war
Amazing videos guys 👍👍
keep posting and helping people stay private
Perfect privacy Team
Ok I have a question , how do I connect to the Internet with tails on my computer and tor without using my home internet . For privacy reasons .
Mobile data, otherwise you can't. (Crack your neighbor's wifi?)
@@saintofsinners are u saying using mobile data is safer? Or at least on its own safe?
After just watching 3 of your videos I am now having antivirus ads on this video lol
Hey bro... Love your videos.. can you please make a VDO on Wire Guard vpn and how can we setup it on Android... Pls pls pls
1:45 tenders "mass surveillance economically unfeasible" including the new NSA huge enormous crazy large amounts of data storage center?? Hmmm
One thing where a VPN is useful for me is to use it with Jdownloader. This is something Tor on it's own doesn't do. And as well as for NAS.
But i still have a question about Usenet, is there any reliable service? A lot of them cost a lot and give you their "VPN", which I don't need. Because i have a better option. So i wonder should you just stay away or is there any that's worth using, many old files are going down as time goes. And I would love to archive some of the really old stuff that other websites don't touch, mostly because of DMCA or low interest.
THO simping for Tor🤔😂
Witch Tor is the best for iphone ?
Have you an opinion on IMpulse phone and laptop working thru the blockchain for security?
Excellent
4:32 I can count on a single hand countries which don''t allow torrenting ...
Torrenting in itself isn't illegal except in those countries. But what you are torrenting can easily be a cause of civil action.
i mainly just watch youtube and surf the web, do you suggest me using TOR or a open-source VPN?
Great!
Love what you do. Yet are you planning on using an alternative to patreon?. As I've been having issues with it
d5dd Down the road yes
I'd feel kind of bad for using tor for all my browsing. Can I support the network in any way?
I want to check online bank which should I use?
100k 🔥
Is self hosting vpn's on cloud are safe like outline by jigsaw?
What about using both?
This is a myth covered by myself over on THO’s video :)
So which one is better?
I am one of those strange people that doesn't like tor or vpn i like if they know what i like and don't have to search for it
can't access many sites cause want plant cookies. Can VPN or tor some how circumvent cookies?
How about Psiphon ? In Iran we all use this VPN?
Tor browser app contains 3 trackers on playstore. Its because of google? Its Without the trackers taken from other source?
If I'm using a messaging app should I use orbot or VPN
Is that a Herman Miller chair you are sitting on?
Oh....Techlore. I thought The Hated One made new content.
Jai Shree Ram 🙏🌺
Tor is extremely slow for me , any suggestions or help?
hey henry could you check out surfeasy vpn and do a video on it
will tor help you when downloading torrents? thats all i care about.
Ok so. Like. I just wanna torrent. What do I do
I think the same... free means "you are the product", nothing is free and never will be. Security without anonymity = VPN... Anonymity without security = Tor... VPN + Tor = poopoo.
You don’t have additional security with VPN... what are you talking about?
The internet’s and Google -“ You shouldn’t use a vpn with a tor browser, you should only use a vpn when you......”
Me- “Hold up , hold up , let me check with Henry ”
What if you just used both at the same time?
This was covered in THO’s video by myself :) One of the myths.
Tor + bridge + tails + VPN + non intel processor + common sense
Use both at the same time.
How are dark net vendors taken down next....
Nord VPN add for this video...
if only tor was as fast as vpn
So VPN has no purpose... I wasted a proton account..
NO ONE CAN DEFEAT VPN + TOR!!!!
So, if I want to stream on my phone but don’t want my dad to be able to see my internet activity would using a VPN or TOR help?
Wtf in India duckduckgo is banned by internet service provider( idea ) and other main service provider bro what we do now
how....i can get into it
i have no problem
@Gizio the Jackal I know I can use VPN but wtf
I know I can use VPN but wtf
Vpn means: V ai P ra N arnia
You can't hide the fact that you use Tor for any ISP, since Tor traffic is 586 bytes.
And the Reality be like (in Some videos.., not this one) :: Here's the Video is Sponsered By 'TOR' ...🙄
I saw a bunch of VPN ads on this video lol
Should I buy the early black friday offer by PureVPN of 86% off? #PureVPN5YearDeal #EarlyBlackFriday
Blasting volume ...? By by
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Tor. There I solved your video.
Lol
nOrD vPn
seems a bit dishonest that you (or any content creator) removed the date from your material.
How are dark net vendors taken down next....