@ who is y’all? This is why you you drake fans are so in denial and having a hard time accepting what is happening. You have s completely gas lit yourselves into thinking Kendrick was some insignificant nobody. He been winning Grammys. His tour for his last album broke touring records. Dude been a big deal for a long time and y’all refuse to accept it. And underestimated him. Cope harder. 😂. Drake clearly underestimated him also. Y’all been wrapped up in the drake bubble.
Esso gave the clearest most factual explanation on the whole situation. Other pods keep yappin in the air, and assume this and that. And “but I can’t tell yall everything”… it’s exhausting. This is a 15 minute convo that’s straight to the point. No 3 hour bullshit about nothing. Keep it up!!!! 👍🏾
Who is giving drake passes? There is literally not one comment on here giving him a pass. The disdain for drake was already pretty high well before this beef went down and it’s at an all time right now.
@@OldChanCharlie it's important to take the whole statement in consideration because it starts off with him saying thank you for not making excuses and then ends with because I hear a lot of people doing that, so in conclusion he just stating that it's refreshing to see that they're not doing that in this moment not that he's saying that they're making excuses, get it now?
@@stephaniewilliams1764 nah, he’s saying thanks for not making excuses for drake cause he’s been hearing people give him too many passes and I’m saying not too many people are giving him passes. It’s quite clear.
Aubrey tried to do the same to The Weeknd in 2011 (put him in the OVO Sweatshop like he did to Partynextdoor) but Weeknd and his team wasn't having. Aubrey still salty about to this day 😂😂😂💯
PND should of done what The Weeknd did..He would of been Competition with The Weeknd on some Best R&B Singer from Toronto... Purple Gorillaz Was Here. Peace.
@@Purplegorillaz PND doesn't have a personality though or star presence. He would have been good on his own or at least with a different label in a sense but he really wouldn't have been much competition in Toronto, especially up against Weeknd/Nav/Tory Lanez
@@Purplegorillazyeah PND couldn’t compete against The Weeknd with his skin tone. The white girls weren’t feeling him like that. So he let Drake be his mask. Drake owes his best period to The Weeknd and PND. Without their sounds, he would’ve disappeared.
@@bamm86 You sound dumb talking about skin tone. Either you are not Brothers. Or your minds are completely colonized. PnB didn't take off because he allegedly had a substance abuse problems, he was still kinda in the streets, and he had label issues.
Everybody and anybody from the culture made him the Michael Jackson of the culture. And MJ beat the machine. Difference is the machine won't spin the block for him like they did MJ, they'll have to punish him in some other way.
Everything Esso & Hynaken saying are facts lol When drake dropped his lawsuit the first thing that came to my mind was “mannnnnn Lucian could Michael Jackson u & really pay some chick to call u a pedophile….u really playing” LOL
Why would he go through with the law suit if he had skeletons in his closet tho? The pedo stuff was already alleged by Kendrick and he still went throughwith it. Imo this is a clear indication that Drake has no real skeletons in his closet. It would be suicide if he did because UMG will find them
Just don’t take so much in advance up front! Just cause you able to take for example a 1M$ budget instead take a $100k! If you can recoup quickly the sooner they owe you!
Kendrick Lamar is extremely intelligent and has a military mindset, he's a historian, with the hood in/with HIM. As the guys stated, why don't EVERYBODY, just leave this MAN alone. They all seem to forget, Jimmy Iovine, and Andre Young going to always have Kendrick back.
@@askellpositive are u ok? because Drake fans complains about Kendrick being too lyrical and they just want to hear straight bars not wanting to challenge their brains and figure out the multiple meanings of Kendrick's bars, you're talking at the side of your neck.
@@askellpositiveNobody with a level of intelligence would think the lyrics are weak. He actually dumbed down his lyrics on GNX and they are still going over many heads. Rap is more than rhyming "what's happening" with "back again". 😂 Nobody gets studied and a Pulitzer Prize for weak lyrics.
This segment was exceptionally well done. These are the things that are not be discussed enough, if at all. I always look forward to hearing what you have to say on music industry behind the scenes.
I did not peep the length of this video when I started it. Got so invested that I was caught off guard when it ended. 😑 Love the dialogue, the information, the willingness to teach 🙏 Thank you for sharing!
I totally agree. Drake would’ve been able to recover from this if he had just gone away for a while like people have been telling him to do for years and come back with a solid album. But his ego won’t allow him to do that. The moment he started playing with UMG and Spotify is the moment he sealed his fate. His career is about to go in the 🚽
How he sold more album units than Kenny did with no album this year. He is the most streamed rap artist again for 8yrs in a row lol. I don't get how his career is going in the toilet.
@@joffia31it’s not about the streams. He’s going after those who propped him up. They will stop EVERYTHING if he wants to continue his career. That’s why everyone is saying who advising him because this is career suicide. He will be known for his back catalog and all of his hits but he won’t be able to move like he did before. That’s why it will be a fall off. He didn’t have to do this.
The more I hear about Drake the more his story parallels Diddy. He takes advantage of his artists and ties them into deals that only he mostly benefit from, he either uses their output solo or he’s on everything they produce, he has a scandalous private life, and he’s going against a behemoth of a corporation.
It’s already starting! All a sudden Drake is once again being implicated in XXXTentacions death. One of the convicted killers was granted an appeal, if Im not mistaken.
It's funny how people talk about Drake helping someone get a number one when he got writers helping him He is not doing that by himself he uses the sweatshop the truth is in your face and known yet people still lean on lies and Deceit.
@@KsgViaFaith No MATTER what, Drake still get credit. You have to prove your case. It is written for Drake. Your just going on hear say and speculation.
Great take on this one, ESSO you spot on. They don’t like your delivery but you be right when you ain’t cracking that bottle before jumping on cam!! Keep it going!!💪😤
Wow, this is great information I had not heard anyone talk about before. Everyone is always saying having a person on a Drake record is a hit for that artist. However, I never knew the deal Drake has with the artist . It very much sound like a slave deal between Drake and the lesser know artist.
He tried to play with Kodak by asking Kodak to work with him. They did multiple songs together. When Kodak asked when the songs were coming out, he told Kodak to drop the song. He tried to make it like he was doing Yak a favor, Yak said nope, and we never got those songs. Notice, Drake doesn’t have too many features on his songs, he feature on other artists songs.
Meek Mill Lost That Battle Because He Jumped Out There Calling Out Drake With No Music To Drop At Him. Drake Immediately Responded With Charged Up And Followed Up With Back To Back. That's Why Meek Loss. He Start Posting Stuff With Money Phones And Rolex Pictures. He Never Dropped A Good Diss Towards Drake.
As a drake fan… meek won the war he lost the battle… he wanted to dent his emcee credibility which he did. I took him off my all time emcee list.. he’s on the Kanye list as far as artistry which isn’t bad it’s just not something drake likes.
Meek Mill did manage to put an asterisk after Drake's name though. Ever since then any time any rapper mentions ghost writers in any way, everybody immediately thinks "is he talking about Drake?"
No rap culture didn't support Meek. He exposed Drake for having ghostwriters and thought it was no point in battling a bum who didn't write his own bars. Then, social media trolled Meek to respond to Drake. The funny thing is the battle with Meek inflated Drake's ego to thinking he was some untouchable mob boss, which led to his downfall ultimately 😂
Yall was speaking facts on this take. 1 time I've ever heard east coast cats properly break down how the west coast work in the music biz. Excellent take fellas!!!
The thing is.. these people be guilty as sin. They are protected from repercussions while they play ball, once they cross the wrong person, all of their skeletons get let out of the closet. I agree that the game that’s played at that level to put folks back in their place.. but these people are no victims.. it’s just their chickens coming home to roost
Spot on! They definitely set people up to knock them down, but like you said, they aren't victims. At this point, everybody knows how Drake moves. I've been wondering for years why nobody has called him out.
As far as the OVO Sweatshop, one only need to look at Makonnen and Mo-G. They tried to ice Makonnen entire BACK catalogue. Obviously so they could pick through what he wanted to TAKE. As for the, “pre-lawsuit”. The fact UMG said, “If Drake sues us for defamation, we’ll gonna sue Kendrick” I would never assume Drake’s team had no inkling that would happen. So, to me, even though he doesn’t mention Kendrick, I still don’t believe there’s no malicious intent there…
UMG is giving him the heads up that they didn’t put the money behind Dot, it was Interscope. UMG can’t sue Interscope, and all Dot has to say is, he had no clue how Interscope would promote. Drake does not win, regardless.
Having someone say the pdf allegations against drake are new just means he didnt care to know. people have been talking about it all over the internet for YEARS!!
ESSO Great interpretation of the beef! K-DOT went 48 laws on Drake! Read the laws again and you will see what I mean!😂😂😂 K--DOT and his team are fxxxing strategic marketing genius!!!✨️🙏🏿✨️
Same thing with DRAM. Hotline Bling was originally titled “Cha Cha remix” but then the official “Hotline Bling” dropped and we never heard Cha Cha on the radio again. Same thing with “Tuesday” by ILoveMakonnen. You never hear the original again after Drake hops on it. You either get blackmailed or have to sign to OVO.
13:50 this vid made me think: it’s the XXX case that got him panicking. Diddy tried to give the masters back and name himself “Love” when he realized the hatred he treated people with was coming back to collect. Drake suing because he did everything but be himself when HipHop let him in and loved him.
The story goes like this: X makes a song on soundcloud, which gets a bit of buzz. Drake allegedly hits his manager up and expresses interest in working together. Then X gets locked up, and it looks like he's gonna get hit with a long stretch. Drake releases a song that uses the exact same flow from the X song. X gets acquitted and comes out accusing Drake of plagiarism and being fake. X continually crashes out on Drake in interviews and IG live. X puts an IG story up, saying if he gets killed, Drake is responsible. X deletes the story and says his account got hacked. X gets killed in broad daylight. Drake suddenly starts acting tough in his music. Drake makes a song that says "if he held his tongue on that live he'd still be alive" and people theorise it's about X. Drake (to my knowledge) has never commented on X publicly. (There's more to the theory, but I just laid down the framework)
@@stephendavies7355 a flow that X didn't invent 😂 besides the fact X was acting childish as hell putting drakes mother on a t-shirt say he wants to smash drakes mom on a radio interview yeah fuckem The guy wasn't that bright if he just gave up the bag he would be alive
@@stephendavies7355X was also on the way to be one of the biggest artists in the world weather you like his music or not. Kendrick posted on twitter X’s 17 album & said it was real music. Drake also sneakdissed X a number of times ,not just once, after his death.
Kendrick warned that Drake is a “master manipulator”. Sad that people dismiss the first segment of “Euphoria” for being too slow. That’s the most important part of the song, and the most prophetic. Same with “6”16 in L.A.”. People will revisit that song in years to come to realize what happened to Drake and his OV-HOE team.
Here goes the internet playing detective again. Y’all should never ever listen to rap if you’re gonna be hypocritical. You can’t co-sign there message but wanna play detective when you’re favorite rapper dies.
Yinno what??? It's unfair to say the talks about Drake and young girls just started suddenly. If these men weren't/aren't doing foolishness, it's quite a bit harder to get things to stick but when you suddenly want to rage against the machine with a closet full of skeletons..... Man, we shall see how it all plays out.
It’s not just that Drake doesn’t know he’s a hit maker. The problem is that Drake has been obsessed with Kendrick Lamar throughout their careers. Kendrick has always been a thorn in Drake’s side, no matter what he says or how he tries to hide it. All the time, people compare him with Kendrick no matter what he does. Drake not being able to take down Kendrick hurts the most because he didn’t just lose the battle, he lost a war. And he cannot deal with it. His ego. He is a narcissist, ya’ll. He needs constant narcissistic supply. Kendrick took that away in the worst way. This isn’t the same. This is completely different for Drake.
Was good about this is esso has had success in the music industry and hes coming from a different perspective than most have recently. Good to see the compare and contrast
You missing the point... Hov was really a street nigga and Black American in general and really like that. Drake dont even actually talk that or lived that life and will go home to Canada after the studio session. That's the main difference.
Young thug said Drake the only artist that take the younger artist in on breakfast club. It’s a lose lose for Drake if he doesn’t do that then people will say he doesn’t fuck with younger artists he can’t win
Sure 🫤could be that Drake took the biggest L of his career and ran to the law. Or that he and his fans are big crybabys or that Drake is a guest in the culture but has been using the culture and its talents to make money while non of those artist he used will see the full potential of their talents because they handed them to him for a bag.
@@shay4966 Took an L, did Kenny match Drake hits for hits yet? Did Kenny triple his Platinum records? Alright, The same culture that Drake been running undefeated for 15 years? The internet has yawl talking reckless about a culture that does not exist. 😂
@ he lost rap battle. The man is still selling out arenas and still is the more streamed than any other hip hop artist in 2024. In The year of His worse L without even dropping an album he’s still doing exactly as he’s always done. Love or hate him he’s always gotten bigger in the face of rampant hatred from the dusty timbaland wearing demographic. Nothing has changed. UMG is playing hardball trying to lowball his deal because of the pdf allegations which drakes has no choice now but to make them prove in court. They either have to prove he’s a sexual predator/rapist or pay up. The beef is long over… this is simple business now and the folks who hate the move literally have zero bearing on his record sales and ticket sales so all the noise is moot
I be taking esso shit actin like it’s mine and just waiting for people to tell me I was right. Like when I told people whoever got the the bigger person looking out for them between Kendrick and Drake. 😂
Respect to Esso for telling Hynaken to finish his thought after being interrupted. Grown man ish
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Esso's background as a super manager really shines when he talks about industry 101s. Dude has crazy insights from past experience.
Kendrick made a Anthem that happens to be a diss record. That’s tough. 😂.
Kendrick Lamar is calling for his ppl to rise up
@@ELynRus-hwhat people??😂😂
@ who is y’all? This is why you you drake fans are so in denial and having a hard time accepting what is happening. You have s completely gas lit yourselves into thinking Kendrick was some insignificant nobody. He been winning Grammys. His tour for his last album broke touring records. Dude been a big deal for a long time and y’all refuse to accept it. And underestimated him. Cope harder. 😂. Drake clearly underestimated him also. Y’all been wrapped up in the drake bubble.
That was like when the bridge is over came out when I was a jit.
Esso gave the clearest most factual explanation on the whole situation. Other pods keep yappin in the air, and assume this and that. And “but I can’t tell yall everything”… it’s exhausting.
This is a 15 minute convo that’s straight to the point. No 3 hour bullshit about nothing.
Keep it up!!!! 👍🏾
Thank u guys 4 not making excuses
B/c i keep hearing ppl give drake so many passes it’s really annoying me
Who is giving drake passes? There is literally not one comment on here giving him a pass. The disdain for drake was already pretty high well before this beef went down and it’s at an all time right now.
@@OldChanCharlie it's important to take the whole statement in consideration because it starts off with him saying thank you for not making excuses and then ends with because I hear a lot of people doing that, so in conclusion he just stating that it's refreshing to see that they're not doing that in this moment not that he's saying that they're making excuses, get it now?
@@stephaniewilliams1764 nah, he’s saying thanks for not making excuses for drake cause he’s been hearing people give him too many passes and I’m saying not too many people are giving him passes. It’s quite clear.
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@@OldChanCharliewhy are you fixated on this comment section he’s talking about people in general lmao
Man when you hear people that talk that talk and they know what it really look like behind the curtain it’s hella refreshing and intriguing
Facts !! I’m so glad I never tried to get into the industry
Aubrey tried to do the same to The Weeknd in 2011 (put him in the OVO Sweatshop like he did to Partynextdoor) but Weeknd and his team wasn't having. Aubrey still salty about to this day 😂😂😂💯
PND should of done what The Weeknd did..He would of been Competition with The Weeknd on some Best R&B Singer from Toronto...
Purple Gorillaz Was Here. Peace.
@@Purplegorillaz PND doesn't have a personality though or star presence. He would have been good on his own or at least with a different label in a sense but he really wouldn't have been much competition in Toronto, especially up against Weeknd/Nav/Tory Lanez
@@Purplegorillazyeah PND couldn’t compete against The Weeknd with his skin tone. The white girls weren’t feeling him like that. So he let Drake be his mask. Drake owes his best period to The Weeknd and PND. Without their sounds, he would’ve disappeared.
@@bamm86 You sound dumb talking about skin tone. Either you are not Brothers. Or your minds are completely colonized. PnB didn't take off because he allegedly had a substance abuse problems, he was still kinda in the streets, and he had label issues.
That's why he hate the weeknd. All the hits weeknd making is his potential hits😂
We streaming that GnX non stop let’s gooo
This is 1 of the realist takes i have heard on this situation so far..
facts
It's about time somebody spoke on it.. he did it to several artist. They only played drake part on the radio then on to the next
They not gonna let the artist be bigger than the machine. Good luck Drake.
I would never play the game unless I could
Drake always be underestimating others and overestimating himself. The bitter pill is gonna be tough to swallow
Everybody and anybody from the culture made him the Michael Jackson of the culture. And MJ beat the machine. Difference is the machine won't spin the block for him like they did MJ, they'll have to punish him in some other way.
Everything Esso & Hynaken saying are facts lol
When drake dropped his lawsuit the first thing that came to my mind was
“mannnnnn Lucian could Michael Jackson u & really pay some chick to call u a pedophile….u really playing” LOL
Facts lol
Have that kid he kissed on stage say she got mental issues after it and it’s over for Drake
Don't have to we already saw him on stage.
Why would he go through with the law suit if he had skeletons in his closet tho? The pedo stuff was already alleged by Kendrick and he still went throughwith it. Imo this is a clear indication that Drake has no real skeletons in his closet. It would be suicide if he did because UMG will find them
Nigga literally was on live with Diddy saying his team studies his…
Finally a well thought out take on this issue. 🍻
they not letting no artist beat the system 💯…thats why from the jump they sign you..
Just don’t take so much in advance up front! Just cause you able to take for example a 1M$ budget instead take a $100k! If you can recoup quickly the sooner they owe you!
Yo this set up for the two shot y’all using is fucking fire. Don’t even look like a spilt screen. Good shit creative/production team
I agree with you 100!! People don’t know how smart Kendrick is. He beat Drake on his own game!!!!!
The Label helped kendrick 😂
@@spartacusnetwork19 cry more
Oh but the label never help Drake😂😂😂😂😂
Drake gave Kendrick is greatest look. Drake did for Kendrick what Kendrick couldnt do for himself
@@ransizzlesyeah drake helped the guy who won a pulitzer
Esso shines in these conversations. He needs to stop getting drunk on the show and stick to the industry BTS talk
Sober normal tone Esso is the truth!
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Usually he's the worst when it comes to interrupting lol
RIGHT!
Totally agree
Kendrick Lamar is extremely intelligent and has a military mindset, he's a historian, with the hood in/with HIM. As the guys stated, why don't EVERYBODY, just leave this MAN alone. They all seem to forget, Jimmy Iovine, and Andre Young going to always have Kendrick back.
why is his lyrcism so weak if hes so intelligent he says nothing but surface level stuff
Never heard Kendrick and surface level in one sentence 😂. Good joke @@askellpositive
lol relaxxxxx
@@askellpositive are u ok? because Drake fans complains about Kendrick being too lyrical and they just want to hear straight bars not wanting to challenge their brains and figure out the multiple meanings of Kendrick's bars, you're talking at the side of your neck.
@@askellpositiveNobody with a level of intelligence would think the lyrics are weak. He actually dumbed down his lyrics on GNX and they are still going over many heads. Rap is more than rhyming "what's happening" with "back again". 😂
Nobody gets studied and a Pulitzer Prize for weak lyrics.
This is the best breakdown I have seen on this!!!
This segment was exceptionally well done. These are the things that are not be discussed enough, if at all. I always look forward to hearing what you have to say on music industry behind the scenes.
I did not peep the length of this video when I started it. Got so invested that I was caught off guard when it ended. 😑
Love the dialogue, the information, the willingness to teach 🙏 Thank you for sharing!
That very last sentence "...never let the artist get bigger than the machine" hits all the nails. So many examples, I doubt this will be different.
I totally agree. Drake would’ve been able to recover from this if he had just gone away for a while like people have been telling him to do for years and come back with a solid album. But his ego won’t allow him to do that. The moment he started playing with UMG and Spotify is the moment he sealed his fate. His career is about to go in the 🚽
How he sold more album units than Kenny did with no album this year. He is the most streamed rap artist again for 8yrs in a row lol. I don't get how his career is going in the toilet.
@@joffia31it’s not about the streams. He’s going after those who propped him up. They will stop EVERYTHING if he wants to continue his career. That’s why everyone is saying who advising him because this is career suicide. He will be known for his back catalog and all of his hits but he won’t be able to move like he did before. That’s why it will be a fall off. He didn’t have to do this.
@@joffia31😂😂 denial
You have a newsubscriber this was the best breakdown of this battle I’ve seen it was very informative simple and to the point
The more I hear about Drake the more his story parallels Diddy. He takes advantage of his artists and ties them into deals that only he mostly benefit from, he either uses their output solo or he’s on everything they produce, he has a scandalous private life, and he’s going against a behemoth of a corporation.
And this lawsuit is a Diddy move too.. against a truth teller. I guess Drake didn't get the memo that era is over. No more.
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It’s already starting! All a sudden Drake is once again being implicated in XXXTentacions death. One of the convicted killers was granted an appeal, if Im not mistaken.
It's funny how people talk about Drake helping someone get a number one when he got writers helping him He is not doing that by himself he uses the sweatshop the truth is in your face and known yet people still lean on lies and Deceit.
Facts🤦🏾♀️
@@KsgViaFaith No MATTER what, Drake still get credit. You have to prove your case. It is written for Drake. Your just going on hear say and speculation.
name the number ones the writers wrote
@ way 2 sexy future and young thug are featured and Drake I’m on one Rick Ross and DJ Khalid
@@KsgViaFaith I believe all artists have writers even Kendrick TDE sweatshop J Cole Dreamville sweatshop and Drake OVO sweatshop so what’s your point.
Drake's pride wont let him....
Great take on this one, ESSO you spot on. They don’t like your delivery but you be right when you ain’t cracking that bottle before jumping on cam!!
Keep it going!!💪😤
Wow, this is great information I had not heard anyone talk about before. Everyone is always saying having a person on a Drake record is a hit for that artist. However, I never knew the deal Drake has with the artist . It very much sound like a slave deal between Drake and the lesser know artist.
He tried to play with Kodak by asking Kodak to work with him. They did multiple songs together. When Kodak asked when the songs were coming out, he told Kodak to drop the song. He tried to make it like he was doing Yak a favor, Yak said nope, and we never got those songs. Notice, Drake doesn’t have too many features on his songs, he feature on other artists songs.
I dunno if they talked about makkonen but look it up
Meek Mill Lost That Battle Because He Jumped Out There Calling Out Drake With No Music To Drop At Him. Drake Immediately Responded With Charged Up And Followed Up With Back To Back. That's Why Meek Loss. He Start Posting Stuff With Money Phones And Rolex Pictures. He Never Dropped A Good Diss Towards Drake.
Facts.... he actually took drake litely talking about ghost writers and all only for him to get smoked
As a drake fan… meek won the war he lost the battle… he wanted to dent his emcee credibility which he did. I took him off my all time emcee list.. he’s on the Kanye list as far as artistry which isn’t bad it’s just not something drake likes.
But wasn't those two tracks written for him.
Meek Mill did manage to put an asterisk after Drake's name though. Ever since then any time any rapper mentions ghost writers in any way, everybody immediately thinks "is he talking about Drake?"
No rap culture didn't support Meek. He exposed Drake for having ghostwriters and thought it was no point in battling a bum who didn't write his own bars. Then, social media trolled Meek to respond to Drake. The funny thing is the battle with Meek inflated Drake's ego to thinking he was some untouchable mob boss, which led to his downfall ultimately 😂
Yall was speaking facts on this take. 1 time I've ever heard east coast cats properly break down how the west coast work in the music biz. Excellent take fellas!!!
Yall snapped on this, very informative Pod
Man I love when y'all talk that truth shit
I thank yall for this....this is the truth for real. Best perspective I heard yet. 💰⛽️
I love hearing yall talk about the music business. Yall be in yall bag. 🔥🙌🏾
The thing is.. these people be guilty as sin. They are protected from repercussions while they play ball, once they cross the wrong person, all of their skeletons get let out of the closet. I agree that the game that’s played at that level to put folks back in their place.. but these people are no victims.. it’s just their chickens coming home to roost
And Drake had the opportunity to go quietly.
@@PatienceLoveabsolutely. No one forced him to do any of things he did.
Spot on! They definitely set people up to knock them down, but like you said, they aren't victims. At this point, everybody knows how Drake moves. I've been wondering for years why nobody has called him out.
ESSO please be this on every podcast! Bag Fuel will be at 150k by June if you pull up like this EVERY podcast
As far as the OVO Sweatshop, one only need to look at Makonnen and Mo-G. They tried to ice Makonnen entire BACK catalogue. Obviously so they could pick through what he wanted to TAKE. As for the, “pre-lawsuit”. The fact UMG said, “If Drake sues us for defamation, we’ll gonna sue Kendrick” I would never assume Drake’s team had no inkling that would happen. So, to me, even though he doesn’t mention Kendrick, I still don’t believe there’s no malicious intent there…
UMG is giving him the heads up that they didn’t put the money behind Dot, it was Interscope. UMG can’t sue Interscope, and all Dot has to say is, he had no clue how Interscope would promote. Drake does not win, regardless.
This convo is factual and necessary. Thanks for keeping it real and not letting these ovo glazers and media goons spin.
And we sat up here wondering why no one came to his defense. 😂😂😂
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Having someone say the pdf allegations against drake are new just means he didnt care to know. people have been talking about it all over the internet for YEARS!!
Ty Btothers fir keeping it G
Ya cooked this Video 🔥🔥🔥
He said , " Pull a coffin out his mouth" Lol 😅
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Pic of B.I.G. on the come up spitting in a club is fire!🔥 🔥 🔥
Dam great conversation love this podcast
They spiting straight facts!!
This was a very mature and interrogative discussion. Y’all kllled it.
ESSO Great interpretation of the beef! K-DOT went 48 laws on Drake! Read the laws again and you will see what I mean!😂😂😂 K--DOT and his team are fxxxing strategic marketing genius!!!✨️🙏🏿✨️
Perfect explanation of this whole beef/kerfuffle
Don't stop keep Going!!!!!
Same thing with DRAM. Hotline Bling was originally titled “Cha Cha remix” but then the official “Hotline Bling” dropped and we never heard Cha Cha on the radio again. Same thing with “Tuesday” by ILoveMakonnen. You never hear the original again after Drake hops on it. You either get blackmailed or have to sign to OVO.
Good to hear ppls perspective who actually know what they're talking about
Finally someone talking sense on this situation.
Great informational video on how the industry and BTS stuff works. Bagfuel is my fav podcast out right now.
Mad Love for Shoutn Out Da YaY/415! WestCoast Mentality be on Different Levels❣️🤣🤙🏽
Keep up the great work guys. Yall heatin up. Chi town love
Esso and Hynaken’s takes on this is on point. Unbiased and truthful
13:50 this vid made me think: it’s the XXX case that got him panicking. Diddy tried to give the masters back and name himself “Love” when he realized the hatred he treated people with was coming back to collect. Drake suing because he did everything but be himself when HipHop let him in and loved him.
and why would Drake get a sound cloud rapper killed 😂
The story goes like this:
X makes a song on soundcloud, which gets a bit of buzz. Drake allegedly hits his manager up and expresses interest in working together.
Then X gets locked up, and it looks like he's gonna get hit with a long stretch.
Drake releases a song that uses the exact same flow from the X song.
X gets acquitted and comes out accusing Drake of plagiarism and being fake.
X continually crashes out on Drake in interviews and IG live.
X puts an IG story up, saying if he gets killed, Drake is responsible.
X deletes the story and says his account got hacked.
X gets killed in broad daylight.
Drake suddenly starts acting tough in his music.
Drake makes a song that says "if he held his tongue on that live he'd still be alive" and people theorise it's about X.
Drake (to my knowledge) has never commented on X publicly.
(There's more to the theory, but I just laid down the framework)
@@stephendavies7355 a flow that X didn't invent 😂 besides the fact X was acting childish as hell putting drakes mother on a t-shirt say he wants to smash drakes mom on a radio interview yeah fuckem The guy wasn't that bright if he just gave up the bag he would be alive
@@stephendavies7355X was also on the way to be one of the biggest artists in the world weather you like his music or not. Kendrick posted on twitter X’s 17 album & said it was real music. Drake also sneakdissed X a number of times ,not just once, after his death.
These the hardest workers in the Hip Hop podcast space
Kendrick warned that Drake is a “master manipulator”. Sad that people dismiss the first segment of “Euphoria” for being too slow. That’s the most important part of the song, and the most prophetic. Same with “6”16 in L.A.”. People will revisit that song in years to come to realize what happened to Drake and his OV-HOE team.
Bro people will come back and see that Kendrick is a hater.
XXXTentacion murder case just involved Drake again out of nowhere
There’s plenty of evidence that drake has set up a hit
Here goes the internet playing detective again. Y’all should never ever listen to rap if you’re gonna be hypocritical. You can’t co-sign there message but wanna play detective when you’re favorite rapper dies.
@locklife4336 who's playing detective? All the OP was state what's happening in the current situation. Calm down.
Oh it’s NOT out of nowhere
@@locklife4336MF’s on the internet done solved a lot of murders tho 😂😂
The Most real sit and talk I've heard since this shit started
Yinno what??? It's unfair to say the talks about Drake and young girls just started suddenly. If these men weren't/aren't doing foolishness, it's quite a bit harder to get things to stick but when you suddenly want to rage against the machine with a closet full of skeletons..... Man, we shall see how it all plays out.
Esso did say it depends on "Whose stronger"..
So cool to see people talking about the gears and pistons of the music industry.
This was a better showing from Esso ....👏🏾
The going up on a Tuesday guy said this about Drake taking his song.
Take Care was originally The Weeknd’s album. 😂😂
It’s not just that Drake doesn’t know he’s a hit maker. The problem is that Drake has been obsessed with Kendrick Lamar throughout their careers. Kendrick has always been a thorn in Drake’s side, no matter what he says or how he tries to hide it. All the time, people compare him with Kendrick no matter what he does. Drake not being able to take down Kendrick hurts the most because he didn’t just lose the battle, he lost a war. And he cannot deal with it. His ego. He is a narcissist, ya’ll. He needs constant narcissistic supply. Kendrick took that away in the worst way. This isn’t the same. This is completely different for Drake.
Respect ✊ and appreciate all the free game
Keep going guys good to see yall growing (pause) . I love it been there since the beginning
Was good about this is esso has had success in the music industry and hes coming from a different perspective than most have recently. Good to see the compare and contrast
Great show 😆
Yall was cooking 🔥🔥🔥
truer words were not spoken in hip-hop... the label is never gonna let the artist be bigger than the machine.
It Rallied a whole world🌎💯!
No, it spoke to Black American culture, specifically to the descendants of the slaves; and the rest of the world jumped on our bandwagon…
This is a good take
Drake took that out of Jay Z Playbook 😂😂😂
Dnt let that go over yall head 💯
He did but Drake went OD with it Hov did that shit inside his own camp
@ outside the camp also…. He did it to Drake himself 😂
Problem is we all lived long enough to see Hov keep showing love vs Drake who forgets he ever knew ppl.
1000%
You missing the point... Hov was really a street nigga and Black American in general and really like that. Drake dont even actually talk that or lived that life and will go home to Canada after the studio session. That's the main difference.
very dope convo
Guys Going Up💯.
Drake has already been in situations with young girls. The label doesn't have to do that again. Stop pretending Drake didn't do these things.
Bag fuel baby 💰⛽️
Been watching Bag Fuel from the beginning. THIS is your lane! Time for takeoff 🚀
Great conversation without emotion, straight facts.
Best analysis of this situation
Young thug said Drake the only artist that take the younger artist in on breakfast club. It’s a lose lose for Drake if he doesn’t do that then people will say he doesn’t fuck with younger artists he can’t win
SHOUT OUT ESSO AND HYNAKEN FOR TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HEAR ON PODCAST!
Chill, Double Chill
Great podcast - very insightful
I can listen to these guys talk hip hop for a long time.
he forgets that puffy no diddy, can still touch almost anybody and everybody from behind bars..keep playing.
"You gotta alot of suggestions" 😂😂😂
Congratulations on the growth!
That Drake stimulus got these podcasters talking about that man nonstop. It’s free publicity at this point
Facts, they need views man…
Sure 🫤could be that Drake took the biggest L of his career and ran to the law. Or that he and his fans are big crybabys or that Drake is a guest in the culture but has been using the culture and its talents to make money while non of those artist he used will see the full potential of their talents because they handed them to him for a bag.
@@shay4966 Took an L, did Kenny match Drake hits for hits yet? Did Kenny triple his Platinum records? Alright, The same culture that Drake been running undefeated for 15 years? The internet has yawl talking reckless about a culture that does not exist. 😂
@ he lost rap battle. The man is still selling out arenas and still is the more streamed than any other hip hop artist in 2024. In The year of His worse L without even dropping an album he’s still doing exactly as he’s always done.
Love or hate him he’s always gotten bigger in the face of rampant hatred from the dusty timbaland wearing demographic. Nothing has changed. UMG is playing hardball trying to lowball his deal because of the pdf allegations which drakes has no choice now but to make them prove in court. They either have to prove he’s a sexual predator/rapist or pay up. The beef is long over… this is simple business now and the folks who hate the move literally have zero bearing on his record sales and ticket sales so all the noise is moot
@@JODYE4RMTHESIXyou care more about that than Kendrick does. Kendrick just makes his music he’s not tryna be #1
Yall cook all the time but yall sautéed the sh!t on this one SOS & Hynaken‼️
They was cookin on this one!
"Everybody Need to leave this man ALONE" ESSO 😂😂😂😂
I be taking esso shit actin like it’s mine and just waiting for people to tell me I was right. Like when I told people whoever got the the bigger person looking out for them between Kendrick and Drake. 😂
😂😂 He’s right though, you’re smart. Drake went into the battle without the support of his label, Dot had full support from his people.
Good content
I have been saying that BBL DRIZZY just exploits these up coming artists. He links to you then steals your flow style and everything.