From Peer Pressure To Poetic Justice
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
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I love how each side of Poetic Justice is reflective of what each artist looks for in women: Kendrick is all poetic, actually learning about the girl like her perfume, meanwhile Drake is just like "you got a phat ass and I'm DTF."
Truly art reflects reality.
Great take lol
I also think that each perspective is reflective of how differently they approach the industry.
This Kendrick and Drake duo is dope. They’ll definitely have a cordial working relationship in the future
i got bad news for you bro
Gonna hold ur hand when I tell you this…
@@shredd9719 what happened?
@@jeritheweirdchild why? Did something happen?
@@nolannguyen2 it appears the two have fallen into a heated beef. Good news, Kendrick won. Bad news, Drake has fallen off and made the worst diss track to ever touch a human’s ears.
The juxtaposition between the way Kendrick talks about women and the way Drake talks about women in poetic justice really takes on a new meaning in the wake of the beef. Drake is all about the material world while Kendrick is much more about the emotional side of love also "YOUNG East African GIRL"
Yeah Drake's verse is also very ego driven and trying to seduce the girl by talking about how amazing he is. Kendrick is a lot more vulnerable telling her how amazing she is.
I think Kendrick in the timeline of GKMC is a teenager too 😂
@@ShroomDoggyDogg And he still knew better
Lowkey if money trees was released by any other hip hop artist in our generation it would be their best song
Facts
Art of Peer Pressure has a special place in my heart because I wrote a paper about it in my English Comp II class. Kendrick Lamar contributed to me getting an A.
That’s so dope!
"Your natural hair and your soft skin and your big ass in that sundress (ooh)" As someone who is also attracted to women, the noise Drake makes at the end of that line is the most relatable he has ever been.
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I do think that the “if a rose grew in a dark room would you trust it?” Is also a reference to tupacs a rose growing through the crack in the concrete
Yep
*_DID SOMEONE SAY DOMINOES?!?!_* 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
I always loved how on The Art of Peer Pressure when Dot says "it's 2:30 and the sun is beaming", the track just happens to hit the 2 minute and 30 second mark. Talk about the perfect line up.
That’s so awesome!
Wait….🤔🤯🫠
“Every time I write these words they become a taboo
Make sure my punctuation curve, every letter hits through
Livin’ my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof”
This part of that verse always gets me hype I love it so much
I love when Kendrick makes sound effects with his voice 🗣 DOOT 🗣DOOT 🗣DOOT 🗣DOOT!
That intro to the Art of Peer Pressure is incredible. The instrumentation is so beautiful on the surface but you still feel the undercurrent of a void. A despair that presents itself because the surface is so beautiful
The hook of Money Trees always get stuck in my head. God, I love this album so much
And it goes~
"Halle Berry or hallelujah. Pick ya poison, tell me whatcha do'. Er'ry body gonna respect the shoota, but the one in front of the gun lives foreva~
(The one in front of the gun, forever)
And I've been hustlin' all day, this-a-way, that-a-way
Through canals and alleyways, just to say
Money trees is the perfect place for shade and,
That's just how I feel."
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"Did somebody say dominos?"
I love that you highlighted the Geazy references on art of peer pressure. That outro, where one of his friends talks about wanting to get out of Compton, and what did his friends do? They hit him with the music they listen to, what would Geazy do? Literally using the culture and art they grew up on to peer pressure their friend.
Art IS peer pressure. Fucking gold. Never let anyone tell you these interludes are skips.
Young Jeezy* "last time i checked i was the MAN on these streets, call me residue i leave BLOW on these beats, got diarrheia flow, i SHIT on n*s, even when im constipated i still SHIT on n*s, got some superfriends in the legion of doom, stay blowin purple shit keep me high on the moon (yeahhhhh [jeezy said yeah BEFORE usher])"
We need more derapy sing-alongs😂
Prime Drake was one of the best. And now people like me can't even look at him the same anymore bc of everything that transpired during the beef
If he can go back to making albums exactly like "Nothing Was The Same" I would actually like him again.
@@JesseWhiteman117exactly how I feel😭
The beef itself was OK him crashing out and revealing his true colors by suing multiple times is embarrassing
@@JesseWhiteman117Nahhhh, idc how good his music is, bro is an opp for this lawsuit. Naming RUclipsrs and streamers in his frivolous lawsuit has cemented him as forever corny to me.
Like a week ago I fell asleep while I was just laying about and jamming out, I woke up to Over by Drake playing and nearly cried lol, brought back a lot of memories
i heard someone say once that it sounds like kendrick mightve (ghost)written drake’s verse for “poetic justice”, same way kendrick wrote for dre on “compton”. now whenever i hear drake on poetic justice i imagine it with kendrick’s voice and it makes sense a little bit. the flow of the first half of the verse IS eerily similar to kendrick’s flow during the section80/gkmc eras
Very similar flow from drake tbf
The shade under the Money Tree(5) is Poetic Justice (6 on the track list ). Kendrick wrote the entire song. He got Drake to dis himself by rapping “I can never write my wrongs unless I write them down for real” PS. Find the interview with MC Eiht where he talks about Kendrick having the whole album and concept written. Then listen to Infrared by Pusha T, he quotes that line.
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Drake wanted to use Kendrick for his 'pen' but Dot peeped his game and said "Nope!".
I hope Drake knows this now because 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Doomer253f it, this is the head canon now 😂
I like the addition of you talking over some of the song without straight up interrupting it, found it really fun to listen to.
I think we can give old Drake his flowers cause he did great on Poetic Justice..... how the mighty have fallen, we went from this Drake to him calling out streamers cause his feelings got hurt LMAO
My favorite part of money trees is Jay Rock’s verse it’s feels so nostalgic
It’s actually slept on imo
Lots of gems in there
I'm glad somebody also agrees that the first part of the Art of Peer Pressure is simply amazing, I can't stop replaying that part a few times when I'm not listening to the album in its fullest
I cant wait for sing about me/im dying of thirst, its honestly the greatest song ive ever heard and ill die on that hill a million times, the way reincarnated is almost a 1 to 1 of it is just mind blowing all these years later... thats true art
oh you're right it does have the same structure
“Broken promises, steal your watch and tell you what time it is
Take your J’s and tell you to kick it where a Foot Locker is”
Some of Jay Rock’s coldest bars
Money Trees gets stuck in my head on the regular. Its so relatable, to day dream about a better life with no problems.
Anna wise was one of the best parts about this album for me. I feel like I remember seeing that she was supposed to be on Damn. but she ended up not being on it, namely Pride, but it ended up going to Steve Lacy. Actually I think she wrote that part, but Lacy sung it
This is the only time amongst the Derps that I ever heard of people thinking he was talking about pizza. I swear, I bet mostly men were considering this. Lol!!! I immediately thought of him playing the game with his buddies and gambling. Lol!
The concept of the album is that it's a short film, so it's not out of order so to say it's more like starting at the middle and flashing back
Great vid btw 🎉
Hearing Drake’s verse in the aftermath of the beef, what has been exposed about him (sleeping with taken women, hiding behind his wealth) is wild. Prof Sky said that Drake exposes more of himself than he means to and I agree
The Art of Pure Pressure is when such a peak song. I never caught the part about hunger that you explained. Great insight. Also jay rock had a peak verse
Glad you enjoyed!!!!
Pure pressure makes diamonds, peer pressure makes ‘stakes, before you run hits with the homies, pass around six drakes 🤣
The thing I like about all the “Jeezys first album” references and “Usher Raymond Let It Burn” is the way it really timestamps this story. And for anyone that’s Kendrick’s age it really helps paint the picture and lends relatability like, I’m not from this kind of neighborhood at all but I do remember chasing girls and getting in to fights and in trouble and running from cops with the homies in my moms car in the mid 2000s. Masterful touch.
"Money Trees is the perfect place for shade" I really hope he trademarked that line 😮💨
something i like about kdot is if you love rap and the culture you can tell the music that infulnced him without him telling us and another one he keeps he's thought to himself so we can enjoy thinking and analyzing everything , he's rare type of artist including books movies anime that make you chat with a friends for hours just putting shit together and just making ideas or meaning to he's music
I heard a theory on poetic justice like 2/3 years ago, if you don’t listen to that song as part of the album. But if you take the perspective of instead of a girl and they are talking about hip hop. Like in commons used to love her, or like Kendrick’s new song Gloria. The song takes on a whole different feeling. Like some of lines “Making sure my punctuation curve, every letter here's true
Living my life in the margin and that metaphor was proof
I'm talking poetic justice, poetic justice”. I just thought it was just an interesting thought on how to look at this song, I don’t remember where I heard this but it was someone on a podcast.
when peer pressure started playing i instantly, completely forgot i was watching youtube and started singing along, got super confused for half a second when you started talking again lmao
Relatable. Love that song so much
Money Trees is my favorite track of the album. I appreciate Art of Peer Pressure more the more I listen to it. Poetic Justice may be the most ironically titled track given who's featured on the track lmao 🤣😅
Hearing Poetic Justice got me acting like a Tim Duncan fan.
“YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD NWTS-era DRAKE WAS, OH MY GOD-“
😂💯
22:55 he’s definitely talking any the dominoes you play with brotha
I was just about to comment this lol.
I've seen a few people recently say that they thought he meant pizza. Which is crazy to me because I don't think that even crossed my mind. I immediately assumed he meant the game 🤣🤣.
Straight up, I think Peer Pressure is the second best story telling track dot's ever put out. You can clearly see everything, the tone of his voice tells you everything you need to know if the instrumental doesn't say it first, the whole thing is, depressingly, quite realistic, right down to the narrow way they ducked the police. All it took was a single right turn, and suddenly everything's in the clear.
A buddy of mine and I talk about this album as a story of the worst day in a young mans life, and in a lot of ways, at least based on other records in his discog, I really think kendricks rapping was the best way he found to cope with the stress of living the way he did. Almost no wonder it took him a decade after this to actually go to therapy.
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After revisiting the album since you started this review, you can take any 3 song run on this album and it’s one of Kendrick’s best. I’m so excited for you to talk about Sing About Me I cannot lie.
Bro... who ever thought he was talking about Pizza .... damn i always tought he was talking about his tiles because he was saying "my dominoes" and the 2nd time etc ... Kendrick takes the dominoes to use as an alibi with the homies in the park
The flower growing in a dark room is also a reference to pacs the rose that grew from concrete 💯
I have to say, the "we hop out like doot-doot-doot" bit strikes me as childish, and I think it's intentional. It's the kind of sound a kid would make describing a television show shooting, and this is supposed to be Kendrick and his friends at 17. They haven't internalized the consequence of actually shooting a gun and killing someone, they're playing pretend right there. They're all puffed up acting tough.
Love this observation, totally agree!!!!!
Yeah it's for sure meant to show Kendrick as just an easily influenced kid who just wants to look cool to his friends
Soooo...here's the thing. Kendrick wrote all of Poetic Justice. Drake just did what he normally does...perform.
This whole time I thought Kendrick's dad was talking about actual dominoes 😂
thinking he was talking about the pizza olace dominoes is wild 😭😭😭
Literally always thought that hahahaha
he wasnt?
1:26 - 1:37 You're are not alone!!!! I wish there's like a alternate full version of just the first half of the song
Fun Fact: The person that's singing that part is name JMSN & he's definitely one of my favorite Underrated R&B artist I've ever seen. If you need recommendations, lemme know man
Ah man, I thought for sure you'd stop to point out one of the best and funniest ad libs ever: "my Tony head" 🤣
my tony head
my tony head
😂
Yes!! 😭
Hey man it's easy to get into shenanigans when you're listening to " jeezy like to drink , jeezy like to smoke 'jeezy like to mix arm and hammer with the coke (HAHAAAAAAAAAA!)" 😂😂
Patiently waiting for the 2 hour episode covering SAMIDOT
This dude name Drake is a great artist! He and Kendrick should do more songs together! Hopefully this duo is all about love :D
😂❤
I've always loved Kendrick's line about the flower in the dark room. Reminds me of Tupac's rose in the concrete.
The art of Peer Pressure is my Favourite Kdot song ngl
It’s so good
@@Derapy The " They made a right " part keeps me coming back for more and i honestly want a kendrick song with this rhyme scheme
or maybe a derapy freestyle 👁
It's so underrated. My favorite on the album.
On a 5 hour road trip
and derapy just dropped a new vid
God is good
I am with the homie
Derapy grinding double time, love to see it
I’m from the west coast where Hardee’s is called Carls Jr. I know we all know that but it’s just caught me by surprise hearing someone refer to it as Hardee’s with so much ease and no after thought
Down south it’s called Carl’s Jr too lol
Bruh I'm in Australia and it's Carl's Jr 💀
Money Trees will always sound fresh no matter where i hear it at
I appreciate the honesty, but money Trees is an 11/10. This was the moment I knew this album was a classic.
Alexa, play Memory Lane by Minnie Riperton…
1. The Art of Peer Pressure is when I had to pause the album on my first listen. Especially after hearing the range of just the first 3 songs. When the beat switched on TAOPP and he changed his tone to match it with a story, I was like “nah how can he be this good, ain’t NOBODY this good!” Shit was visceral
2. Money Trees beat was hypnotic, the public related & loved the song so replay was 🔥, Jay Rock was still in his damn near yelling or yelling his MC hunger at the mic era (popper stoppers not only recommended but required) but again changed his tone & matched the beat, and “Ya Bish” becoming a whole meme on its own was good times
3. When the Anytime Anyplace sample kicked in I had to pause again, bc who tf is whoever this producer is to beat me to sampling that gem? Google said it was Kid Frost’s son so ay 🙌🏾 🤌🏾 …Still, who tf this dude think he is rapping over Janet’s voice while naming the song after the classic movie she and the dude he said he was the reincarnation of, was in? And why is he so fckn poetic with it? And why is this the first time I liked anything with Drake in it in full? BUT only to question since Meek Mill outed him if he even wrote that verse? But how at the end of the song we get snapped back to reality with the skit & the results of Kendrick chasing that flower power in L.A., we learn that being all emo for the wrong ones like certified feature guy, doesn’t really fly where Dot resided…the type of skits he on Drake wouldn’t understand…
23:03 HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT PIZZA BRO😂😂😂
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new derapy!!! 🗣🔥🔥🔥
You already know
Wholesome child. Angry metropolitan area.
Love the breakdowns This song was trending at one part
8 seconds is like getting hit with another bogus lawsuit. LIKE THE VIDEO
Editor got mad at me for my posture I’m just trying to clean the kitchen 😢
That gun sound bit was fucking hilarious
Thank you lol
LET’S GET INTO IIIIIIIT
Let’s gooooooooo
The song along hahahah keep singing!!! 1:39
yes derepy 🙏🏼🙏🏼 great video. appreciate
Thanks for listening!
Hearing poetic justice just shows how drake never stood a chance
Damn
29:56 Ive always thought that Kendrick wrote Drake’s verse. 🤷🏽♀️
4:20
This why i love you man
I'm a grown ass woman and I heard "adjust your posture" and sat up straight like my fourth grade teacher was coming at me. 😒
BE BOO BOO BOP BOO BOO BEE 🗣🗣🗣
Art of peer pressure is his best song, argue wit ya mama😤
Btw you can hear the "U-u-u-u" in Blacker The Berry too. Fun fact
Yall are so funny man
It’s either
Drake’s verse wasn’t bad!
Or
Kendrick wrote Drake’s verse, that’s why it sounds good.
Or
Kendrick wrote Drake’s verse to make him diss himself because the song is a metaphor about hip hop.
Or
Drake wrote his own verse and Kendrick is rapping about respecting women and Drake missed the point!
Or
Drake’s verse is fine.. but I hate his voice.
Like damn, I think yall just hate Drake 😂😂😂😂
The last one is so common that's there is a version on yt with drake's part cut FROM 12 YEARD AGO
23:30 That’s because Kendrick wrote Jay Rocks verse. Lol. When Kendrick left TDE, they were mad at him and retaliated by releasing a lot of his unreleased songs and reference tracks he made for others like Baby Keem and Jay Rock (usually on Kenny’s own songs).
Starting to think Kendrick wrote Drake’s verse on Poetic Justice.
Let him have one verse 😂
@@Derapy He has all of heart pt6
Money Trees is still my favorite Kdot track. I've listened to that record prolly a bajillion times 😅😅
Kendrick wrote the poetic justice verse for drake...if u listen correctly Drake is exposing himself as a vulture while kendricks verse is about genuine love for the culture...the juxtaposition is very direct
damn lol
It took listening to Poetic Justice for me to realize that Drake really could rap, but I just dislike his voice. I don't know what it is about him, but my whole life he's been off to me.
Fair take
Jeezy’s first album was a classic 🫡🤌🏽
Poetic Justice is about hip hop and Drake, while everyone likes to look at his feature as being from a more wholesome time, was the villain to Kendrick (his verse written by Kendrick) even as far back as 2012. He is talking about himself as the "other man" that the girl is distracted with because she doesn't understand that he doesn't care about her fr. He doesn't appreciate the inherent value of her, her culture, her natural hair.
Watch the video: Kendrick dies in the street trying to protect the girl while Drake is leaving a vm on her phone with another girl in his bed.
"If I told you that a flower bloomed in a dark room, would you trust it?" Really think about that line. What could that *possibly* mean in the context of love song? It sounds sweet but it's actually critical. (Flowers can't grow without sunshine, so it would be inherently questionable if a "flower" were to grow without it, right? For that matter what does "Poetic Justice" mean? It's not positive. It's not sweet. It's looking forward to a time when justice while be poetically served.
"What we have in common is pain." and Drake doesn't come from the kind of pain someone like Kendrick does, the pain that created hip hop. Like a flower that claims to have grown in a dark room, we should not trust him to truly understand or even care about hip hop... was the whole point. Kendrick got Drake to tell the truth about himself. *chef's kiss
So I saw a video a few years ago where some people guessed Kendrick wrote Drake’s verse on Poetic Justice and used it to basically get Drake to admit that he’s not going to treat hip hop right and then for us to end up here? If they were correct and Kendrick wrote that verse, that’s next level from sooo long ago 😂
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This whole album is like the hood version of House Party and Kendrick is Kid.
Even before the beef I was never that big of a fan of Drake and while what Drake does on Poetic Justice is fine, I'm still annoyed by him on this song because I feel like he doesn't match the story of the album or this song. Poetic justice itself is a literary device describing when retribution comes to those who deserve it, but the story Kendrick is telling is about the nature of life in the hood and how your happiness can be taken from you at any time. "You can get it" isn't just being told to the girl, it's also saying any time you can get popped, and he follows that up by saying "know just what you want, poetic justice, put it in a song" to say make this life make sense, make these things have justice to them, tell this story in a song so it has meaning. It's a story about conflict and experiencing joy when you can while you can and trying to forget your environment. The girl Kendrick is talking about is trying to give the appearance of being bigger than where she's from, trying to forget her environment, dressing and acting like where she wants to be. "If I told you a flower bloomed in a dark room would you trust it?" She is the flower and the dark room is the dark environment she exists in, is this flower true beauty or is there something hiding in the shadows? Do you trust a flower that bloomed in a dark room?
And then here comes Drake. I feel like it was never explained to him the things Kendrick was trying to get across and so he drops in on some Drake shit about "Why won't you pay attention to me instead of that other dude you be fuckin? I was gonna do all these things for you, fly you to your motherland, we could have something so good, girl." It's some Drake raps and I hear him trying to schmooze this chick and I'm tired. On any other song this would be fine, good even, but this ain't any other song. It's like you're in the middle of Crime and Punishment when your friend runs in the room to be like "Bro we gotta watch Pain and Gain The Rock is so funny in this."
this is a lot to say drake sucks but I hear you lol
@Derapy I'm no fan but I'm trying really hard to not just say he sucks because I don't think that's the problem, I just think he's wrong for this song.
As much as I pity what dude became after Views, and *hate* what he's been doing of late... in 2011 his rapping was ON POINT, and I don't think any other rapper could've done his part, brilliant thematic contrast between him and Kendrick.
That he named the song "Poetic Justice", given that Janet Jackson and his idol Tupac starred in a classic movie together of the same name, is well..... poetic lol
0:34 i stand up whenever Kendrick tells me to sit my 🐶 ass down
Imo Poetic Justice is a classic. It was before last year but now it’s fasure a classic 😂
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i love 2006-2011 gucci mane 🙏 (day 2, technically day one but i caught the vid before i go sleeping)
also mr derapy what are your thoughts on radric davis during the apex of his career? and great podcast. love listening to it on my way to school
Did I hear you ask favourite tree? Close race between Kahikatea and Rimu
Derapy broke it down, but he is not your savior.
he's with the homies right now and yet he very clearly does not say he is with the homies when he is with drake
💀💀💀 that one moment in the song I don’t want to spoil but bruh whaaa 💀💀💀 I was drivin. Note to self just sit and listen to derapy don’t do nothing eles just sit don’t attempt to do anything eles, cause you don’t know what art style you will recieve 💀💀💀 bing bop boom bop bam almost was me a few mins ago drivin lol and if you haven’t listened the type ish I’m talkin bout you wouldn’t understand
Your “editor” is hilarious 😂 (I really just think it’s you btw)
A Drake who doesn't sound like he's utterly bored with his own words? What is this sorcery?
it’s wild I know
sounds like he’s.. trying???
29:10 if only drake communicated how he felt about that control verse he could’ve saved his relationship with Kendrick
Is that Marvin Gaye in the background? I can't tell.
Can't wait for more GKMC content.
It's The Heart Part 5 by Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick sampled Marvin Gaye in the song.
Thank you sir 🫡
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Aye that TM101 really was that album tho