Bro these research heavy MMA essay type videos are how you blow up, this is some shit no one else is covering and everyone whose heard about it has been interested to learn more about. Same with the Dana White money laundering stuff. Keep it up I’ve been loving these type videos.
@@Gekkco How you gonna get offended on someone else’s behalf? If he doesn’t agree with my comment he can delete it or reply and say so lol you’re just looking to start arguments with people over nothing, Have a good day buddy.
Stephens being in this program makes me think they are taking advantage of emotionally damaged people. That isn't just speculation, Stephens has been open about having a horrible relationship with his mother.
They thought they were studying under Aladdin’s Genie but instead they got a Karen who probably calls the cops on kids for running a lemonade stand without a license 😂
The projection by simpleton Strickland is staggering. The maga cult is the real cancer that is currently rotting America and turning it into a primitive minded theocratic state. Vile
@@chrishayes5755 i'd agree with you if he was a nobody but he's a relatively public figure who gets paid to speak into a microphone damn near every day. you can tell when he's annoyed because he does nothing but throw insults at whoever annoyed him and speak so much that he doesn't allow them to get a word in on the conversation. Saw a lot of that in high school, sadly most people don't recognize that as immature because it happens in the highest levels of society including politics.
@@Laxusism I had that thought, if he happened to be the first UFC fighter to join this cult maybe they thought he would be their Tom Cruise so they pivoted to attracting MMA fighters
I’ve been in a cult before, I feel bad for them because it’s one of those situations you get gaslit into when you don’t have a good family. Hella embarrassing to look back at to boot.
I've definitely been tempted by some orgs like this as I had a pretty awful relationship with both my parents. They offer community for money. That transactional nature always set off red flags for me though so I never joined. I know Stephens is in that same boat so I hope he's found some value in joining this organization.
The fact that people pay money to these people give me hope. I just need to figure out what kind of cult I want to run. New age? Emotional stuff? Religion? I’m not sure. I think the “self help” grift is a good entry level cult idea. Normal people will pay the bills, if I manage to snag a celeb then I’ll be buying a huge compound haha. Seriously though, these cults make me wonder how I can manipulate people into giving me money for feeding them total bollocks.
In 2015 my “friend” begged me and my lady to come to a weekend workshop called Choices here in Canada. We declined, he said he paid for both of us to go which apparently cost $2000 for both of us. It was weird AF, we were expected to attend the next course and get several friends to attend the entry level course which we just took, I bailed immediately, but my girl got sucked into it. We eventually broke up lol. It’s all the same thing, all of these courses use a system called colours, if you hear the words: choices, colours, or emotional intelligence just dip out fast.
A lot of us have trained with fighters of some sort if we trained at a gym. Fighters are the weirdest form of athlete and would definitely fall into these kind of organizations. Remember Ortega also fell into a man camp church thing as well. My main concern is why do you need to pay those insane fees when all this information is free on the internet? EDIT: 1500/hr?!?!?!?! Do I get some ass with that?
The hourly rates are way to high, but the other prices didn't shock me at all. I took rethorics courses for sales through my company and the the prices were comparable.
This seems similar to Joshua Fabia's 'School of Self-Awareness'. Also, grown adults almost never jump up and down like that. That was strange. I love the longer videos, by the way.
In that section of the video, there's a dude in the back in a green shirt that you can tell does not want to participate. He's clapping going along with everything because he doesn't want to get disciplined or whatever the fuck they do there
@@emrules2001I think that dude is just deep in the sauce. The lady next to him is clapping and isn’t in a LV177 shirt, he might be a leader or something and this is his class. Prolly tried to bang the blonde but didn’t get the action so he’s not spazzy like them
@@asimpson164I wouldn’t say BJJ is inherently cult like, the belt rankings display your competence with submissions and grappling. But there are gyms that are a bit over the top with community outreach and recruiting practices, then just dog their white belts as canon fodder for the higher trained people to have practice dummies
@@stealthyturtles I didn't know that. I was thinking more along the lines of people that get in to Jiu-jitsu and it consumes their life. It becomes their obsession. I have a few friends that are into rolling and it is all they ever want to talk about. Then there is Eddie Bravo at 10th Planet BJJ.
@stealthyturtles except one belt at one gym can be total different the the same belt at another, like wise man once said when looking for a gym look at how many blackbelts they have if its a lot then you probably want to find another gym 😂
This channel is a gem. Mma guru talks bad about the fighters for just more views. Your videos are a more entertaining and informative version of MMA guru.
Thanks a ton man! I’m a big fan of Guru and consider him a pal, but I’m trying to do something different in this space and I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos 🙏🙏
I never understand people like you who always have to make us choose. They are both great him and guru so stop trying to bash one to make the other look better.
@@Narleeboy dude he’s cried more times than I can count at this point, he cried during TUF, he cried after Vegas 50, he cried when talking about seeing the UFC billboard, he cried after this last fight as well. I don’t care that he cries a lot but he’s definitely someone who struggles controlling his emotions
emotions are not meant to be controlled but engaged with and accepted in a way that does not cause trouble, any therapist worth their salt will tell you that, dom may be questionable but khalil is actually emotionally intelligent and anyone who thinks crying is bad or that EQ is measured by your ability to repress yourself is not emotionally intelligent
The most telling thing is that all the reviews are 1 star or 5 stars nothing in between. The 5 star reviews are clearly coached by choicecentre and the 1 stars are those who didn’t fall victim to the scheme
The projection by simpleton Strickland is staggering. The maga cult is the real cancer that is currently rotting America and turning it into a primitive minded theocratic state. Vile
@@BiggityBoggity8095Exactly. It’s a lot like Scientology in that regard. The skateboarder Aaron Kyro is another athlete who cut all of his friends out of his life just to be a Scientology leader. It’s pretty sketchy and corny.
truly the worst timeline 😂 merab and belal as champs, khalil beating the exciting fighter carrying the organization too? if that happens i'm done, i'm unaliving myself.
Dominick (Conor is trying to gas Khabib out and I am the smartest person ever) Cruz and Khalil (I am so sensitive) Rountree are very naive and gullible.
Yeah, funny that sensitive and emotionally fragile or volatile people (based on what I have seen and heard other fighters who trained with them say), are lvl 175 or w/e. To begin with, something that's allegedly about healthy emotions and emotional intelligence resorting to something so dubious as labeling people with levels (and hundreds of levels at that), is a massive red flag in itself.
@@swifty123a religious person would have a local community already. If a man doesn’t have a local community it makes it easier to fall for cults that prey on peoples vulnerability.
Strickland talked on Rogan last year about Dom Cruz, J. Stephens and Roundtree being part of a cult and I saw a video this week explaining what it was. Can't remember the channel unfortunately but the program is called Choice Center, it's self help meets Scientology meets MLM. Strickland never ceases to entertain even when he's not directly involved.
Man, I really screwed up. I was going to post this on RP MMA and decided to simultaneously look for your channel name to link it and ended up screwing it up all. 😂 I'll go post it there now and elsewhere.
I remember from years ago in an interview Strickland wassaying how once you meet Khalil, you can understand why he doesn’t like him much. At first I wondered why but this makes it much clearer now!
@@Porona that's not true, Strickland has moments, but I've never seen him getting arrested or have huge outbursts unless he has his buttons pushed very badly
@@Kgopani3101Yeah the epitome of manliness who loves to bash other people but cries when the favour is returned. The mental health advocate who cr*ps on the struggles of others but wants his to be seen as some sort of machismo. It’s called hypocrisy
I've always said most mma fighters are insane because if they weren't they'd never get involved in a sport like mma. So much risk for most guys to reap very few rewards.
The UFC should hire Lucas Tracy to replace Dominick Cruz, Michael Chiesa, Paul Felder, and Din Thomas. Not one of those guys has the charisma and humor, or broadcast voice of the legendary Lucas Tracy. The UFC retaining Dominick Cruz is a way to make the broadcasts dry and uncomfortable.
Lol. And dude ended up having a better physique than sean as a former tub. 😆 🤣 😂 he gotta be mad as hell. Khalil just came out and said he apologized to him at the card dan Ige jumped into. Lolololol They may be in a cult but Sean still really sucks. 😆
@@Nameplease12blacknobilitysome gyms I’ve looked into definitely have some cult like aspects ngl. I’m all for community outreach and free kids training days to get more newcomers, but some gyms legit go a bit far with it
It could be a great way to stop the weight cutting nonsense, rather than divisions by weight we can have divisions by emotional intelligence. Rogan: Khalil Rountree is an eliiite 175er
I think Paul Felder is also a part of this group. At 831 on the Nassourdine imavov vs Jared cannonier, he mentions being on level 40. This fight is posted to the ufc RUclips channel take a look
he was just referring to be forty years of age because Jared was telling media that he isn’t ‘getting old’ he has just reached Level 35, referring to his age.
I really like your main channel stuff, ran into this channel and I love it. Also feels like you genuinely are intrested in these topics and it helps to retain my attention, kinda zone out when I hear stuff like "I don't care about this topic" or "well I guess I have to talk about this" etc
This was such a good video and the other videos I’ve seen from your channel have been awesome. Obviously you can’t make videos like this all the time because scandals like this are few and far between, but I love this creative style you’re using that goes way beyond just talking about fighters and upcoming fights. Excellent work. 👍🏻
So glad to see youtubers with more subscribers and following to expose this. There was another guy doing this work but he doesn't have the reach you do. This is sick stuff, and I feel for all the victims.
This channel is probably the best random recommendation that came up in my RUclips feed since forever. Absolutely love the content, delivery and format of your videos. Keep up the good work!
It's the cultiest cult that ever culted. Oh wait, that's Scientology. Or Heavens Gate. Or maybe Mormonism. Hell, even Joshua Fabia's School of Self counts. Too many cults to count, now that I think of it.
Not sure if you went through reddit much but there's a thread discussion choice center on a Vegas related sub. Someone on there mentioned that they were level 149 and claimed "it's the best 1500 I ever spent" which means the lvl may have more to do with how much you put in when you sign up
I dont think Khalil, Dominick, or Jeremy are evil horrible people. I think they are simply vulnerable and the program exploited their traumas and mental illnesses in order to bring more money. They are not bad people as far as i know, simply victims due to the problems and trauma they've been through in their life. It's sad really I feel bad for them.
If you’re getting charged 1000s of dollars for special knowledge with no physical benefit is a scam. You can just as easily for the same money go to an actual accredited university for the same thing.
I like what you’re doing with the channel my brotha. I like your talking points and the rigo Esque discussion we have on this account. I believe this is the best kind of MMA community. Where we make jokes, spit facts, throw up some evidence, Checking your own morality by thinking about these weird scenarios that are swarming around us. It’s like I’m never gonna naturally think about this cult thing with UFC fighters bc imo i don’t need to see much more. I believe it’s a cult and not an “enlightening” one. It’s about money and publicity. And of course their obsessive catering to the young and telling them they are now their family….many children grow up in homes where the mom chased the dad away and used legal means to ruin the fathers chances to raise his kids. And that leaves these young boys lost, bitter, confused, starving for a strong male role model to look up to. So it can be abused in that case.
Daily source of appreciation coming! Thank you for your work ITP MMA I genuinely enjoy your videos dude. This cult is just legit disturbing I really dont get why they havent been prosecuted.
I like Khalil but Dom is super fucking irritating and seems like a narcissist. Not that that automatically means he’s in a cult but I already got a negative impression so I feel like this just adds to it.
For sure, Dom has his negatives, but he does have a great mind for the fight game. We rag on him for his missed calls (Conor rope a doping Khabib for example) but I think more often than not he's a smart guy. He also at least knows how to fake taking a loss well if he's not being sincere, aside from Cejudo and to be fair he was standing up when that fight got stopped.
If you need to buy a corse on self awareness you clearly have enough of it to understand you lack it, so giving someone your money at that point is just dumb.
Looks like Sean doesn’t lie after all to all you Strickland haters stfu atleast he’s entertaining us let’s go to cardio kickboxing war with his jab and teep kick 😂
lmao damn and many of us considered Dom Cruz to be a pretty smart guy. Lots of weird stuff happens inside MMA gyms. Devotion to anything mind body and spirit can leave you dangerously open and unaware. Great coverage bro your channel abt to have a second wind!
This is like Landmark (similar to Choice Center) meets Tony Robbins Seminars (jumping around, walking on hot coals, marathon sessions with little breaks, making people overshare, cry and massage each other )
I can see why Kahlil, Dom, and Stephens would stay in it. They are easily able to recruit people since they have a lot of connections. They may even be getting a cut of the profit. For normal people that aren’t famous this would make no sense at all.
Bro these research heavy MMA essay type videos are how you blow up, this is some shit no one else is covering and everyone whose heard about it has been interested to learn more about. Same with the Dana White money laundering stuff. Keep it up I’ve been loving these type videos.
Can you not tell him how he can blow up because you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about let him do his thing
@@Gekkco How you gonna get offended on someone else’s behalf? If he doesn’t agree with my comment he can delete it or reply and say so lol you’re just looking to start arguments with people over nothing, Have a good day buddy.
@@Gekkco Lil bro is tweaking for no reason💀
There is a dude who literally has made these recently lmao his name is Rigo
ruclips.net/video/TGJs6V3p0tY/видео.html&ab_channel=Rigo
Right here. The most emotionally intelligent 145er right here.
You know damn well who I am.
😂😂😂
WHO DA FOOK IS THAT GUY???
😂😂
Bro stop 😂
Level 1 Crook vs Level 175 Cult Leader
Dude, you got me good with that one.
You win
Jeremy Stephens being level 175 at anything emotional intelligence is wild.
Stephens being in this program makes me think they are taking advantage of emotionally damaged people. That isn't just speculation, Stephens has been open about having a horrible relationship with his mother.
Hahahaha level 175 for him is funny as
@@Bonesawisready926 That is the target audience for building a cult
Highest emotionally intelligent 175er
@@Bonesawisready926That was the first thing I thought of when his name was mentioned
Wonder how many people joined that cult thinking it was founded by Robin Williams and were disappointed when they found this old lady
Lmaooooo
Nanoo Nanoo
she weird looking too
They thought they were studying under Aladdin’s Genie but instead they got a Karen who probably calls the cops on kids for running a lemonade stand without a license 😂
Probably not many dude
You're the man for researching this, this is crazy
It copied from a creator called Rigo
Rigo did it first
If Jeremy Stevens is a level 175 then it’s probably bullshit😂😂
He probably joined after Conor roasted him infront of the entire world
@@CB-dl1vg yeah but wasn’t one of his last fights cancelled because he shoved the sh*t out of the guy at the face off?
@@GgCashh451 Yeah he injured Drakkar's spine or something like that because he shoved him for seemingly no reason at a face off
@@kyle21843 bingo
LV is Las Vegas, and apparently he was in the 175th class. That's it.
When Strickland said Cruz and Khalil were in a cult, I was expecting them to be burying dudes alive 🤣
I expected they held meetings naked
nah this is the reality of most cults these days
Why? Lol tf 😂
Nah, you're thinking of Chael's deranged pro wrestling buddies lol.
The projection by simpleton Strickland is staggering. The maga cult is the real cancer that is currently rotting America and turning it into a primitive minded theocratic state. Vile
Kid: I want Scientology
Mom: we have Scientology at home
Dom is really smart and witty but emotionally intelligent is not anything I would ever characterize him as.
You don't really know someone's EQ unless you know them at a pretty deep level.
@@chrishayes5755 i'd agree with you if he was a nobody but he's a relatively public figure who gets paid to speak into a microphone damn near every day. you can tell when he's annoyed because he does nothing but throw insults at whoever annoyed him and speak so much that he doesn't allow them to get a word in on the conversation. Saw a lot of that in high school, sadly most people don't recognize that as immature because it happens in the highest levels of society including politics.
He can't be that smart if he fell for this scam. 🤷🏻♂️
Dude he’s like Tom cruise lmao
@@Laxusism I had that thought, if he happened to be the first UFC fighter to join this cult maybe they thought he would be their Tom Cruise so they pivoted to attracting MMA fighters
I trained at alliance, these photos have like 6 or 7 people I recognize from the gym.
That’s actually crazy
@ITP_MMA_LIVE you probably recognize jessica Penne and Tina pettigrew
omg you're right, i didnt recognize jessica without having a bloody and battered face
@@ITP_MMA_LIVEbrutal 😂
@ITP_MMA_LIVE I'm just Glad that my coach and his wife (angela hill) aren't in the pictures
This sounds a lot like its structured the way Scientology is. The more money you pay, the more" information" Is given to you and the higher your rank.
and scientology is a rip off free masonry
Seems very much modeled off scientology
Yeah, it seems like a dollar tree scientology .
There have been many of these types of organizations that use Scientology as a blueprint. A loose one but you can see a lot of similarities.
@@domenicgalata1470 wow, yeah you're right
I’ve been in a cult before, I feel bad for them because it’s one of those situations you get gaslit into when you don’t have a good family. Hella embarrassing to look back at to boot.
I've definitely been tempted by some orgs like this as I had a pretty awful relationship with both my parents. They offer community for money. That transactional nature always set off red flags for me though so I never joined. I know Stephens is in that same boat so I hope he's found some value in joining this organization.
@@Bonesawisready926 There's no value in an organisation that wants nothing to do with you if you don't pay them.
The fact that people pay money to these people give me hope. I just need to figure out what kind of cult I want to run. New age? Emotional stuff? Religion? I’m not sure. I think the “self help” grift is a good entry level cult idea. Normal people will pay the bills, if I manage to snag a celeb then I’ll be buying a huge compound haha. Seriously though, these cults make me wonder how I can manipulate people into giving me money for feeding them total bollocks.
Which cult were you part of, if you'd be comfortable sharing? No worries if you aren't.
@@JohnSmith-pn1vvprolly get some grippy psycho snizz out of it though
In 2015 my “friend” begged me and my lady to come to a weekend workshop called Choices here in Canada. We declined, he said he paid for both of us to go which apparently cost $2000 for both of us. It was weird AF, we were expected to attend the next course and get several friends to attend the entry level course which we just took, I bailed immediately, but my girl got sucked into it. We eventually broke up lol. It’s all the same thing, all of these courses use a system called colours, if you hear the words: choices, colours, or emotional intelligence just dip out fast.
Sounds very unemotionally intelligent of you, brother.
Come back, we can reunite you and your past love.
We definitely have not been banging her.
A lot of us have trained with fighters of some sort if we trained at a gym. Fighters are the weirdest form of athlete and would definitely fall into these kind of organizations. Remember Ortega also fell into a man camp church thing as well. My main concern is why do you need to pay those insane fees when all this information is free on the internet?
EDIT: 1500/hr?!?!?!?! Do I get some ass with that?
Autism and strange outlooks on life are synonymous with high-level martial arts
@@jatudor3184why is that?
@@SkepticalMantisCHANNEL10 there are studies you know,the brain works in a strange way
The hourly rates are way to high, but the other prices didn't shock me at all.
I took rethorics courses for sales through my company and the the prices were comparable.
Did you also think lvl 126 was the max lvl?
Khalil is hoping to get fight of the night bonus to pay those fees.
Gotta level up.
@@cvandy2252 i know its fucked but that made me laugh
Congrats to him, he got FotN against Alex.
This seems similar to Joshua Fabia's 'School of Self-Awareness'. Also, grown adults almost never jump up and down like that. That was strange. I love the longer videos, by the way.
In that section of the video, there's a dude in the back in a green shirt that you can tell does not want to participate. He's clapping going along with everything because he doesn't want to get disciplined or whatever the fuck they do there
@@emrules2001I think that dude is just deep in the sauce. The lady next to him is clapping and isn’t in a LV177 shirt, he might be a leader or something and this is his class. Prolly tried to bang the blonde but didn’t get the action so he’s not spazzy like them
It only makes sense for MMA to have its own of brand scientology lol
They always have had a cult problem, it's called Jiu-jitsu.
@@asimpson164I wouldn’t say BJJ is inherently cult like, the belt rankings display your competence with submissions and grappling. But there are gyms that are a bit over the top with community outreach and recruiting practices, then just dog their white belts as canon fodder for the higher trained people to have practice dummies
@@stealthyturtles I didn't know that. I was thinking more along the lines of people that get in to Jiu-jitsu and it consumes their life. It becomes their obsession. I have a few friends that are into rolling and it is all they ever want to talk about. Then there is Eddie Bravo at 10th Planet BJJ.
@@asimpson164People talk about what they like and do as their hobby? Omg what a crazy discovery🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@stealthyturtles except one belt at one gym can be total different the the same belt at another, like wise man once said when looking for a gym look at how many blackbelts they have if its a lot then you probably want to find another gym 😂
This channel is a gem. Mma guru talks bad about the fighters for just more views. Your videos are a more entertaining and informative version of MMA guru.
Thanks a ton man! I’m a big fan of Guru and consider him a pal, but I’m trying to do something different in this space and I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos 🙏🙏
The only problem is ITP cannot do an impression of Ian Garry pole vaulting over Darren Till with a torn ACL.
I never understand people like you who always have to make us choose. They are both great him and guru so stop trying to bash one to make the other look better.
@@Gekkcoguru is not gonna sleep with you, bro.
@@Gekkco
Sounds like you got your little feelings hurt, ppl don't have to like KAM, what are you going to do about it?
Khalil being emotionally intelligent when he’s sobbing every minute is hilarious no wonder he joined
@@Narleeboy dude he’s cried more times than I can count at this point, he cried during TUF, he cried after Vegas 50, he cried when talking about seeing the UFC billboard, he cried after this last fight as well. I don’t care that he cries a lot but he’s definitely someone who struggles controlling his emotions
emotions are not meant to be controlled but engaged with and accepted in a way that does not cause trouble, any therapist worth their salt will tell you that, dom may be questionable but khalil is actually emotionally intelligent and anyone who thinks crying is bad or that EQ is measured by your ability to repress yourself is not emotionally intelligent
@@misterwachulochulo5262truth
You think being emotionally intelligent means not crying? Lmao
I'm so happy and surprised a MMA RUclipsr finally went "how I cover topics that haven't been covered by 30 already"
The most telling thing is that all the reviews are 1 star or 5 stars nothing in between. The 5 star reviews are clearly coached by choicecentre and the 1 stars are those who didn’t fall victim to the scheme
i was thinking the same thing all 5s and 1s in some contexts are huge red flags
Cult. 100% cult.
It is, there are many types of cults, no need for it being based in a religion
@@YisusBaltiit’s like a mix between cult and pyramid scheme. They’re not mutually exclusive.
The projection by simpleton Strickland is staggering. The maga cult is the real cancer that is currently rotting America and turning it into a primitive minded theocratic state. Vile
@@BiggityBoggity8095Exactly. It’s a lot like Scientology in that regard. The skateboarder Aaron Kyro is another athlete who cut all of his friends out of his life just to be a Scientology leader. It’s pretty sketchy and corny.
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
- 1 Timothy 2:12, KJV
Wow I thought robin williams had passed away didn’t know he was running a cult
Wow he is dead, he was my fave member of Take That.
@@All_Hail_Chael He was the best member of Take That, he did not die though, he simply transitioned into a woman.
My god most mma fans are fuggin idiots.
Sometimes you need to go to drastic measures to escape the IRS lol
Robin Williams would be rolling in his grave with laughter
probably not he was also a grifter, openly stole other comedians bits, when he'd drop in at shows comedians would switch to their B material
@@f.mckenzie4212source?
Here's hoping Khalil badly chins Pereira and drops a reference to how that put him at lvl 200 at ChoiceCenter in the post-fight interview
😂😂 he’s also taking Systama
truly the worst timeline 😂 merab and belal as champs, khalil beating the exciting fighter carrying the organization too? if that happens i'm done, i'm unaliving myself.
Alex stomped him.
i'm alive!
Dominick (Conor is trying to gas Khabib out and I am the smartest person ever) Cruz and Khalil (I am so sensitive) Rountree are very naive and gullible.
Yeah, funny that sensitive and emotionally fragile or volatile people (based on what I have seen and heard other fighters who trained with them say), are lvl 175 or w/e.
To begin with, something that's allegedly about healthy emotions and emotional intelligence resorting to something so dubious as labeling people with levels (and hundreds of levels at that), is a massive red flag in itself.
I’m surprised Cruz of all people is in a cult 😂 he seems like you average atheist who would be a smartass about not believing is that stuff
@@swifty123a religious person would have a local community already. If a man doesn’t have a local community it makes it easier to fall for cults that prey on peoples vulnerability.
@@swifty123have you seen what he used to post on his Instagram during covid? I was so disappointed learning he was also a nutjob.
What was he posting? Was he pro lockdown and masks?
Strickland talked on Rogan last year about Dom Cruz, J. Stephens and Roundtree being part of a cult and I saw a video this week explaining what it was. Can't remember the channel unfortunately but the program is called Choice Center, it's self help meets Scientology meets MLM.
Strickland never ceases to entertain even when he's not directly involved.
Man, I really screwed up. I was going to post this on RP MMA and decided to simultaneously look for your channel name to link it and ended up screwing it up all. 😂
I'll go post it there now and elsewhere.
The fact you have 12 upvote tells you how infested this site is with either fools or bots or both
You should go undercover and join to see what’s up, that would be peak content😂
Strickland anti bullying P.S.A incoming
Ik u ee3 that kenny oke vs mma che was crazy
Kenny was getting cooked
@@Cybreus0 how do you know that and who are you
@@JimMcmiller637 you'll never know
@@Cybreus0now I am curious 🧐
@@JimMcmiller637 he prob remebers you from the live stream for it
Khalil Rountree taddle tailing as a grown man/pro fighter is so funny to me that I'm not even annoyed.
how’d he taddletail. sorry if it was in the visuals i was listening on my headphones lol
A MLM and cult combo is crazy
Lots of cults engage in MLM. It's extremely easy money.
It’s definitely a cult, some people just like being in cults 😂
Imagine we get a cult member as UFC champion
Dom was a champ
Tito was already.
Alex and his masónic trainer
Alex kos him but Alexs coach is free mason
@@vlxayy agreed 100% but they are both masons.
Khalil, Dom and Jeremy all seemed weird AF before I knew this info, now it makes alot more sense
Dom seems like the least emotionally intelligent person ever lol
@@benhallo1553dom acts like a 9 year old
I remember from years ago in an interview Strickland wassaying how once you meet Khalil, you can understand why he doesn’t like him much. At first I wondered why but this makes it much clearer now!
Well, Strickland was basically saying that Khalil is emotionally fragile, in a way.
@@HiddenStr3ngth And to be fair strickland is a good judge of character either. He gets angry way too fast and is too spontaneous. He's like trevor.
I’d say you should do your own research before listening to Strickland talk about someone else. Khalil seems way more mentally intact than him.
@@Porona that's not true, Strickland has moments, but I've never seen him getting arrested or have huge outbursts unless he has his buttons pushed very badly
@@Kgopani3101Yeah the epitome of manliness who loves to bash other people but cries when the favour is returned. The mental health advocate who cr*ps on the struggles of others but wants his to be seen as some sort of machismo. It’s called hypocrisy
Lmao. I love MMA and how fucking weird people who take part in it are. It's literally endless content
I've always said most mma fighters are insane because if they weren't they'd never get involved in a sport like mma. So much risk for most guys to reap very few rewards.
“ cult of personality “ 🎶
LOOOOOK IN MAAA EEEEYYYYYEEEESSSSS!!!
@@pirate_duck4985 what do you see?
Dom treats his friends and enemies the same 😭
The UFC should hire Lucas Tracy to replace Dominick Cruz, Michael Chiesa, Paul Felder, and Din Thomas. Not one of those guys has the charisma and humor, or broadcast voice of the legendary Lucas Tracy. The UFC retaining Dominick Cruz is a way to make the broadcasts dry and uncomfortable.
Joe: "What cult?"
Sean "I can't stand Khalil Rountree"
Man is too funny the hatred for that former tubby bastard runs deep 😂
Lol. And dude ended up having a better physique than sean as a former tub. 😆 🤣 😂 he gotta be mad as hell.
Khalil just came out and said he apologized to him at the card dan Ige jumped into. Lolololol
They may be in a cult but Sean still really sucks. 😆
Bro I was deadass thinking about this last night 😂😂😂 after hearing Sean say that on JRE I’ve been hella curious about this “cult”
Stevens being higher than Cruz in EQ lvl is actually pretty hilarious in itself
Rank? Yeah it’s a cult
I always felt bjj ranking system was some form of cult… 😂 you trippin
@@Nameplease12blacknobilitysome gyms I’ve looked into definitely have some cult like aspects ngl. I’m all for community outreach and free kids training days to get more newcomers, but some gyms legit go a bit far with it
It could be a great way to stop the weight cutting nonsense, rather than divisions by weight we can have divisions by emotional intelligence. Rogan: Khalil Rountree is an eliiite 175er
This is nuts. I always got a really weird vibe from Khalil and Cruz. Makes sense now.
Wait wtf we are getting in on the ground level on this 😂 Rountree is paying for 1 on 1 coaching on a UFC fighters salary?!
Many ufc fighters make millions
@@lightoftruth8672the champs might, other than that nah unless you’re Brock lesnar
khalils father was the manager for boyz 2 men, he’s got money we just don’t know about it
@@MMASpeakZhimself?lol
@@lightoftruth8672you mean they are not underpaid like people claim 😮
If Doms LvL was so high, why is his commentary work so shitty
I think Paul Felder is also a part of this group. At 831 on the Nassourdine imavov vs Jared cannonier, he mentions being on level 40. This fight is posted to the ufc RUclips channel take a look
he was just referring to be forty years of age because Jared was telling media that he isn’t ‘getting old’ he has just reached Level 35, referring to his age.
He’s talking about cannoniers age
Right here. The hardest hitting level 175er here. This guy TKOs people and they don’t fucking move.
Me: I wouldn’t take ANYTHING Strickland says seriously.
Also me: Level 175 at WHAT? 😳
People will do anything before seeing a therapist
Why see a therapist? People who see therapist don't have real friends and family who tell them the truth.
@@carlocostales549mentally delayed you are
ThErApIsT are the same 'cult' bs
Therapists don’t work at all for a lot of people, especially men. Talking about your problems helps women in general and working them out helps men
People will do anything but talk to GOD, it works.
I really like your main channel stuff, ran into this channel and I love it. Also feels like you genuinely are intrested in these topics and it helps to retain my attention, kinda zone out when I hear stuff like "I don't care about this topic" or "well I guess I have to talk about this" etc
This feels like a Rigo video.
Except good😂
Except it's actual research and not schizo shit-posting
This was such a good video and the other videos I’ve seen from your channel have been awesome. Obviously you can’t make videos like this all the time because scandals like this are few and far between, but I love this creative style you’re using that goes way beyond just talking about fighters and upcoming fights. Excellent work. 👍🏻
10/10 channel for researching all this
“It seems like Dominic, khalil and Jeremy also like what’s going on over there seeing as though they’re all over level 100” is hilarious😂
Dominick Cruz always did seem American Psycho-ish when I think about it.
So glad to see youtubers with more subscribers and following to expose this. There was another guy doing this work but he doesn't have the reach you do. This is sick stuff, and I feel for all the victims.
Stephens is so emotionally intelligent he injured Klose at the weigh ins.
This channel is probably the best random recommendation that came up in my RUclips feed since forever. Absolutely love the content, delivery and format of your videos. Keep up the good work!
This is one Strickland claim that's actually kind of accurate. They're an MLM
Why does this feel like an episode of ‘The Boys’
It's the cultiest cult that ever culted. Oh wait, that's Scientology. Or Heavens Gate. Or maybe Mormonism. Hell, even Joshua Fabia's School of Self counts. Too many cults to count, now that I think of it.
Most, if not all, MLMs are cults too.
Been waiting on someone to make a video about this cult!
Not sure if you went through reddit much but there's a thread discussion choice center on a Vegas related sub. Someone on there mentioned that they were level 149 and claimed "it's the best 1500 I ever spent" which means the lvl may have more to do with how much you put in when you sign up
Someone should ask khalil about it at the presser
You the goat for this one my dude
Wait wait wait. The founder of the cults name is Robin Williams???
Jeez i was wondering what he was talking about. Thanks for putting in this work my dude.
The ranking system preys on their lack of emotional intelligence.
I dont think Khalil, Dominick, or Jeremy are evil horrible people. I think they are simply vulnerable and the program exploited their traumas and mental illnesses in order to bring more money. They are not bad people as far as i know, simply victims due to the problems and trauma they've been through in their life. It's sad really I feel bad for them.
If you’re getting charged 1000s of dollars for special knowledge with no physical benefit is a scam. You can just as easily for the same money go to an actual accredited university for the same thing.
I like what you’re doing with the channel my brotha. I like your talking points and the rigo Esque discussion we have on this account. I believe this is the best kind of MMA community. Where we make jokes, spit facts, throw up some evidence, Checking your own morality by thinking about these weird scenarios that are swarming around us. It’s like I’m never gonna naturally think about this cult thing with UFC fighters bc imo i don’t need to see much more. I believe it’s a cult and not an “enlightening” one. It’s about money and publicity.
And of course their obsessive catering to the young and telling them they are now their family….many children grow up in homes where the mom chased the dad away and used legal means to ruin the fathers chances to raise his kids. And that leaves these young boys lost, bitter, confused, starving for a strong male role model to look up to. So it can be abused in that case.
I kept thinking this was a fan club for Hong Man Choi center
Hong Man Choi, Doo ho Choi
It's the Choi Center
Great video thanks! Was really curious about this. Changes my view of Dom and Khalil unfortunately
I like dominik. But I always thought he had that scientology look about him
Daily source of appreciation coming! Thank you for your work ITP MMA I genuinely enjoy your videos dude. This cult is just legit disturbing I really dont get why they havent been prosecuted.
Also, was Dom Level 171 BEFORE he put DC on blast and said he failed to do proper research as a color commentator? Doesn't seem very empathetic to me.
Amazing video as always mate
I like Khalil but Dom is super fucking irritating and seems like a narcissist. Not that that automatically means he’s in a cult but I already got a negative impression so I feel like this just adds to it.
For sure, Dom has his negatives, but he does have a great mind for the fight game. We rag on him for his missed calls (Conor rope a doping Khabib for example) but I think more often than not he's a smart guy. He also at least knows how to fake taking a loss well if he's not being sincere, aside from Cejudo and to be fair he was standing up when that fight got stopped.
Cruz just an a hole but he's got a great mind for calling fights
Dude your insight into all of this is fascinating, great job!
If you need to buy a corse on self awareness you clearly have enough of it to understand you lack it, so giving someone your money at that point is just dumb.
Big streak of great videos, W
Strickland and Guru are the only real MMA journalists. 🤔
So is my boi ITP
So glad this channel is seeing some growth, great video! Happy for you homie
Looks like Sean doesn’t lie after all to all you Strickland haters stfu atleast he’s entertaining us let’s go to cardio kickboxing war with his jab and teep kick 😂
I still "hate" him, he talks too much but also is 1 hypocrite.
I know I'm in the minority, I like watching him work that boxing and teep kick.
Great video, respect for the hours that went into making this!
If Strickland joins this cult….oh Hell Nah..
Love the investigative work bro, more content like this would be awesome.
Kliffom!
lmao damn and many of us considered Dom Cruz to be a pretty smart guy. Lots of weird stuff happens inside MMA gyms. Devotion to anything mind body and spirit can leave you dangerously open and unaware. Great coverage bro your channel abt to have a second wind!
Great vid! No one is doing deep dives like this, definitely an MLM. Absolutely disgusting.
Broski you the king of MMA News ATM. Keep up the good work.
This is like Landmark (similar to Choice Center) meets Tony Robbins Seminars (jumping around, walking on hot coals, marathon sessions with little breaks, making people overshare, cry and massage each other )
Wow, man. Great job uncovering this stuff. I've never heard of any of this.
this is crazyyyyy. You made a very interesting video!! So cool
Got here from an mma shitposting group but im happy I did. Good stuff man keep up the good work
Tea essays about MMA? Finally the algorithm has blessed me.
I can see why Kahlil, Dom, and Stephens would stay in it. They are easily able to recruit people since they have a lot of connections. They may even be getting a cut of the profit. For normal people that aren’t famous this would make no sense at all.
Imagine not knowing who Dominick Cruz is and he gets to belittle you during the "discovery" phase😂