Also, about the Jake thing. When you're desperate for money, you make poor choices. Not to mention Beast manipulating him and guilting him. He most likely felt that he had no choice, that he couldn't say no unless he wanted to lose his job which, again, he's desperate for money. I can sympathize because we often live paycheck to paycheck and, even if I had to suffer, I'd probably accept it because we need the money. "Just get through this, get the money and we can pay our bills." Thats what you think, but its not that simple. Jake was taken advantage of because he was in a weak, desperate spot. Beast KNEW that and he didnt give a fuck.
It’s also different to be in a terrible financial situation in the USA, we have very little support and once you’re homeless it’s very hard to reenter the normal work force
also, the stench from the ice cream machine and hot tub is unbearable. if you've never experienced smelling those, you'll never know how disgusting they are. it's worse than a garbage dump. jake wasn't exaggerating. being exposed to those for days is insane. I can't even stand it for even an HOUR. I know because in audit, you can be assigned to check operations of various companies and some don't maintain their machines & ingredients. I've even been exposed to expired chemicals. the stench of rotting and stale things are terrible. it sticks to you
I would have for sure jumped at the opportunity. I wouldn't start thinking about how horrible it might be once things got going, I'd be thinking about the money I'll be getting at the end.
Oooo that's rough. Camnuggets I think it is, just done a video of a dude from a contest. The original video uploaded is from 2 years ago, and it literally got 25 views until yesterday. Practically got buried because it wasn't a narrative RUclips wanted to push out
You handle these "drama" videos with such maturity, honestly one of the few people I trust to give all the information about these situations without trying to sway my opinion in any way. Pls do keep us up to date ❤
I agree with a lot that you said. But as far as the ice cream machine and hot tub. The ice cream machine reeked of spoiled milk when not on and when on made such a loud noise. All of his senses were being attacked constantly. So every little thing they did was on purpose. They were literally trying to break that man down all because Jimmy didnt like him
Yeah i didnt enjoy cams take on the solitary situation, he says he would never get himself into that situation but he's also never worked for Mr Beast, never had £300,000 almost guaranteed and placed infront of him and why does he think an ex-writer who has faked vids before would have thought he would genuinely be tortured? no REASONABLE person would expect to be literally kept in solitary confinement for a month, for a youtube video. Its practically victim blaming.
@@mrbigweld1618 it's not victim blaming, he's just coming from a completely different viewpoint, and set of principles. People are different, Cam clearly said he wouldn't put himself in that position. All that really proves is that he can't empathise with someone that, in a similar situation, would think only of the short term gain and not the long term effects. I don't agree with his take, but he in no way blames Jake.
@@pixlhound saying that you personally wouldnt get yourself into that situation IS victim blaming. he said if jake didnt agree to this, he wouldnt have been tortured. Which is A.) Victim blaming and B.) False. No-one should be tortured no matter what situations they do or do not put themselves in. Its not short term to think 300k could sort a lot of your life out. Cams never been in this situation so he can't say whether he would do it or not. This is common sense i fear.
@@mrbigweld1618 No, actually, it ISN'T victim blaming. It's an inability to empathise because he recognises he would have made different decisions based on different motivations. Of course he can say what he would have done, he did. It's really not difficult to realise that someone is not motivated by the same things you are, and therefore would make different decisions. Not once did Cam say that it was the victims fault for making the decision he did, and yes, actually it is short term to think of the money over your mental health. 300k pays your debt, but nothing more, especially when you then have to fork out for therapy. This really isn't a difficult concept to get your head around, but as you seem to be struggling, I don't think you are any kind of authority on common sense.
Yeah well actually I have an update regarding drama I don’t know if you’re aware but Charlie has actually stepped away from that now he doesn’t cover much drama anymore . because of like the backlash against the Ava/Chris Tyson thing . and done his opinions and all that and he decided he’s just going to step away from it because for about a year he hasn’t enjoyed covering drama and it’s just not for him anymore
@@Arctic-void-z7f ludwig said something similar but still made a video because of how tied to Mr beast he is, Charlie has defended Jimmy for years him staying silent now isn't helping anyone but Mr beast.
@JPayne95 not speaking on a topic means nothing. Stop trying to force people to speak on issues and condemning them if they don't. If he doesn't want to talk about it, he has no obligation to and that doesn't make him guilty of anything. People are so entitled when it comes to youtubers, jesus.
He said he's stepped away from covering youtuber drama due to everyone calling him out when he doesn't cover stuff quickly enough, I think people were calling him out for not making a video in less than 24hrs when all the cody ko stuff broke
I’m so glad you mentioned this. Watching rosanna pansino be alone trying to help protect people has been so sad. I’m glad people are now speaking up about how wrong this situation is ❤
The only thing about this video that I didn’t like, was that Cam didn’t show the parts when Jake Weddle was talking about how they made out the solitary confinement video to be some sort of paradise with a hot tub, ice cream machine, ps5, VR etc. Also the part where MrBeast made him literally run a MARATHON on the treadmill as part of the challenge. Other than that I think you did an amazing job summing this up!👍👍 (This is not meant to be hate I just hoist it was a little weird you didn’t mention that)
In no way am i defending Mr beast, but your comment is ignorant as fuck... There's no way it was pre-meditated, just a coincidence that was overlooked, still dumb on their part. But you are 100% reaching just to make more problems.
I think it's the tone of his philanthropy videos, and the way he talks to the people he's helping that really makes me personally uncomfortable. There's a clip of him being so insanely tone death with one of the people he's helping, and it nearly killed me. I really believe that he doesn't care and is using it for his image.
The people who’ve been posted at the top of the RUclips pyramid have been falling off left, right and center. As much as I hate the things they’ve done and the people they’ve hurt along the way, I’m glad to see the pyramid finally starting to crumble and people feeling safe to tell their stories. Hopefully some of the creators deserving of more views and subscribers can climb up now and show people how to be at the top and still be a good person.
cam ill be honest, I think criticising Jake for getting involved in the isolation video is a bit silly considering how he was essentially peer pressured into agreeing to it, particularly moreso as he needed the money, and i don't want to be rude, but this video as a whole felt like you were interjecting yourself a bit too much, 'I would never have taken that video deal' comes across as a bit insensitive - A fan since around 5 or 6 years ago
If he needed the money, he did it for the money. Thats it. He did his part. He could quit. He wasn’t forced. Saying someone was “pressured” because “it’s money” is like saying work is “pressured” because “you want money.” Like no shit. You have to work to have money. That’s life. No one is forcing you though. You could NOT have money if you want? But… that’s dumb, when jobs are everywhere.
@@MikeyWins11 wasnt just pressured by money (also wasnt just 'money', it was LIFE changing money) but also peer pressure, there would have been a sense of feeling forced to finish or else disappoint his peers and employers, we've already seen how short of a fuse the employers have, also quiting after a huge setup has been created may feel awkward to let down all those who worked hard on it
yeah, we also don’t know if there was a contract or any sort of formal agreement that gave him an out (y’know, a safe word essentially)… like in research trials with human subjects, they have to be able to withdraw consent. and if there wasn’t any such provision then clearly not all parts of the video were well thought through.
Your commentary on things that are quasi-legal such as the drama surrounding Baby Reindeer and the Mr Beast controversy is very thoughtful and well-researched. Yes, you should play to your strengths and analyse situations like this because you have a very approachable way of cutting straight to the heart of the issues whilst remaining as impartial as is appropriate given the information being analysed.
Ok so sociopath isn't something that's used now and would be classed as 'Antisocial personality disorder'. As someone who has it its so easy to spot other people who also show the traits. MrBeast has always shown the traits, he gets gets enjoyment from putting people through the challenges and doesn't have any empathy for the other people actually in them, they are just a chess piece in his game. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to aim and end up in places of power like government, television, ceos ect and he strives for the top of youtube. He uses money and power to manipulate people which will be why he gets people who work for him or know him to do the videos because people who don't know him or someone involved will not take the treatment. People with aspd are also amazing at putting up a front of being a good person who cares for others and only wants the best (politicians do it all the time). Cult leaders and serial killers are also known for having aspd and its known that they have the facade of being a charismatic and kind person. The people close to him will also either be so manipulated into loyalty or will be bad people too because like calls to like, he will keep his personal circle small but they will all know the truth. It takes so much therapy and working on yourself to deal with and handle aspd, it's taken me 5years and I still struggle. Everyday it is a conscious decision to be a better person but many don't do it because why be a good person when you can manipulate and end up at the top right? He 100% does not care about the drama or how it has affected anybody involved, he only cares about his money and his vision. He will put out a lawyer written statement and keep going on with his life as it is.
Cam this is great work 🙌🙌 , a lot of influences and RUclipsrs have strayed away from talking about this , but not you , we love your honesty keep going xx
14:40 The car thing went further though, in that they supposedly didn’t even replace his car or give him enough money to. If you’re gonna destroy someone’s car for a video you’ll make tons of money on, at least buy the guy a brand new car. This, of course, all just testimony of one guy with a bone to grind, so I’m not all-in on that, but if it’s as he told it, it’s really shitty. I think the overall message of all of this to come out about the business side, not the other allegations, is that Mr Beast is 1) making sick amounts of money off people’s suffering, like he’s some sort of savior, when it’s all ultimately making him wayyy MORE money (which we already knew since it’s his business model) and 2) he doesn’t pay all the people who are actually providing him with the entertainment and emotional core of his content with the anywhere near the value they’re providing him. (But he has a special crew of best buds who presumably do get more, and get treated wayyy better.) I mean, sure, a business has to make a profit, but does it need to be that out of proportion? Such that a dude whose car he destroyed FOR CONTENT doesn’t get a new car (plus covered of the taxes and fees) that the company can definitely afford? As for his philanthropy: he centers himself as the savior. Sure, the money has to come from somewhere, but the way he goes about it is clearly purely for his RUclips career. Why does he need to have those creepy thumbnails, and why lie about giving blind people their sight back? He paid for people with terrible eyesight to have the surgery that they couldn’t afford, but he didn’t heal the blind. It feels exploitative. Perhaps pay for the philanthropy with the stunt videos. There are many different ways to do philanthropy. The main distaste I have has been the same as always. I’ve never been in his target demographic or been interested in his videos, but he’s hard to not at least be aware of if you use RUclips, and I have always been put off by his “Lord Bountiful” act. Truly generous and kind people don’t make a huuuge profit off their charity and the people they help.
I think you kinda missed a point with the solitary vid. They said he was gonna get 300k for it. I dont think anyone would do it for £10, but the monetary incentive was kinda like a bribe. We can all say well i just wouldnt have done it but if it was offered and you thought ud atleast be safe and instantly get significantly better financially (which he didnt even get paid the full amount), i feel like actually a lot of people would do it. I mean it is a life changing amount of money. And who knows what his finances were like / his family situation was.
It's true what they say, you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. I always thought Mr. Beast was another YT cockroach.
After watching 5 different youtubers cover this topic, Cam is the first that has actually taken it seriously, had valid and insightful points to add to the video, and has by far been the first I’ve seen to actually look at this from the perspective of the everyman, and not solely from a place of being a youtuber.
eyyy i’ve been aware this was going down but didn’t have any of the details. wouldn’t mind more drama vids, from a distance is my favourite way to hear about the drama x
Most of this was good, but the solitary confinement take was a bit victim blamey. Especially with the amount of medical & student l debt in the US - it's understandable why someone would agree to that _especially knowing jimmy fakes parts of his videos._ I very much doubt that Jake thought he would actually be *literally tortured.* The take just reeks of the whole "why didht she leave him?" "why did she go back to him?" narrative with victims of domestic abuse... It shows a fundamental lack of understanding about how power dynamics, manipulation, and abuse works and completely warps your perspective. Jimmy knew he had control over Jake and could get him to return to a situation where he could dehumanise, torture, and traumatise him. That element isn't about youtube videos, that element is because Jimmy is sadistic and gets joy out of tormenting people, making a video out of it is just a bonus, "good business sense" to him. Please do better with this sort of thing in future - I still enjoy the videos, but was annoyed with that element.
I like how you've covered the story, however I think you have been unfair and rather insensitive on some points. To say you wouldn't have done the solitary confinement video almost appears to try to invalidate Jake's struggles (although I know that wasn't your intention) and doesn't really think about the bigger picture. Essentially a rich man with all the power is dangling money at you and saying it should be an easy win while you're someone who desperately needs that money and you don't want to say no else he could ruin your career. In that situation, most people would say yes. It wasn't a choice. And it shares a horrifying similarity with Harvey Weinstien and others who use their power to manipulate people into doing what they want them to do. You can't say for sure that you wouldn't have done it, and it devalues Jake's experience by saying that. And regardless of whether you would have done it or not, no one expected he would literally be tortured, and ofc he wouldn't have done it knowing that in hindsight. That's the position you find yourself in, knowing how bad it became, so again it's easier to say you wouldn't have done it. Otherwise I do adore you and your videos Cam, I just think there's a few more nuances and seriousness involved in the situation than you gave it credit for.
Mr beast definitely manipulates people to do things with money. I don’t think we can blame someone for agreeing to it when offered that amount of money especially if they are desperate! A video like that just shouldn’t exist period.
@@eoinm5758 here's a little bit of advice, not everyone's parents are worth looking up to. my dad did things that make Jimmy look like a saint in comparison and I'm proud to say I do not look up to that man one bit. also to the OP - don't feel dumb, manipulators are good at what they do because they prey on the goodness in people and the human instinct to see the best in someone. he also specifically targeted younger people who have less experience with manipulation. the shame is on Jimmy, not the audience.
@allyh7075 you're the exception not the rule just because 1 million people have a bad experience that the rest of the 7 billion on the planet have to bow down
If I were to have gone to prison for financial fraud or robbing a bank, I would be barred from working in any financial field, but when it’s kids, not money, it’s okay
Unfortunately, in law money is always seen as more important if u rob a bank or commit fraud u get more years than R-ing and kiddy fiddling which most don't get anything...so I'm not surprised they just overlook it and allow him to work there
I’m autistic and watch your videos every one they help me as I use RUclips to distract myself and your my fave out of them all - mr beast , George , will and Jim , sidemen , you are just so down to earth and funny! Just wanted to say thanks for the content cam and never change !! 🎉
Apparently Jake Weddle’s patreon (if I’m remembering correctly) _will_ be a like, comedy support group of sorts. Where people can like write their jokes and get feedback on it all. And just kind of all talk about what you’d like to do in comedy. But he could’ve been talking about his discord and I misheard him on that. But I do know he was saying he’s planning on doing that on a site of sorts. I forget which one now 😂 and I’m extra hard of hearing right now(ear infection😫). But trying to help! 💜💜💜
A lot of people would take that offer bc we’re all so broke and desperate for money. It very much is squid games irl… remember how badly they all needed that $? I wholeheartedly believe squid games is based on Mr. Beast.
Also, I don’t think him using CGI is a bad thing. But it’s the fact that he openly says that everything is real and that he doesn’t use CGI and his kid audience will watch that and think that he doesn’t when it’s not true so it’s not that he uses CGI to me that’s an issue. It’s the lying that’s the problem. I will admit that I am a flawed person. You don’t see that when you watch my RUclips videos but I’m not gonna deny it if someone asked me if I’m always positive the answer is no. And that’s the problem that I have with MrBeast is not his CGI usage it’s the denial of it.
a Brazilian contestant of Big Brother had a literal psychosis on air, and we were all watching, it was AWFULL, they took so long to take her out (she ended up quitting herself because she believed the button she pressed was part of the game, she believed that everyone else were actors and she "figured it out") and she has come out and spoke about it after and how affected her entire life and she took some distance from social media since them, even her doctor posted an open letter about her mental break on air, it was really bad.
Cam, you need to watch CTK’s video on the drama. He goes over Dogpak’s video and his thoughts which I tend to agree with - his views are different to yours on Mr Beast’s practices so might give you a different perspective
Would love a Kris Tyson video because you brought up viewpoints about the Mr Beast I didn’t previously see. I would love to see your take on the situation
His videos now are so bad….but I always knew he wasn’t what we thought….but it is still super disappointing to hear all this come out….I feel a lot of RUclipsrs are going down hill lately and it’s sad 😢😢😢 R.I.P
Mr beast videos always seemed so fake and robotic to me, they have hardly any personality and just feels so money oriented. They always get millions of views but I just can't put myself through them 😅 I need some personality in the videos I watch loool
My problem with him was the squid game thing. He recreated the competition in the show which was meant to highlight the wealth disparity in modern day society and HE RECREATED IT.......I was flabbergasted.
you forgot the ex employee that went on 3ho(idk the name of the show on youtube) and said that they used to make jokes about fu****** the managers KID that was a young kid, to his face, until he freaked out and pushed a dude on the ocean because 'the jokes were too bad at that point".
There is no difference between filming giving a homeless person 20€ and filming yourself giving everyone in a village a bottle of water. You cannot make one thing seem good and the other bad. both are acts of kindness both are good. Both should be shared to get more people to help out.
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Hello donuts! Lmk your opinions on this situation.. really want to hear different perspectives on each topic in this 🤝🏼
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I think mr beast is 100% hiding more stuff and even though most things have been leaked in his videos it doesn’t seem like he cares
I never liked Mr beast ngl
ive been waiting for you to post on this!!
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Cams dressed like the banana's in pajamas 😂😂
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What an amazing show
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Also, about the Jake thing. When you're desperate for money, you make poor choices. Not to mention Beast manipulating him and guilting him. He most likely felt that he had no choice, that he couldn't say no unless he wanted to lose his job which, again, he's desperate for money. I can sympathize because we often live paycheck to paycheck and, even if I had to suffer, I'd probably accept it because we need the money. "Just get through this, get the money and we can pay our bills." Thats what you think, but its not that simple.
Jake was taken advantage of because he was in a weak, desperate spot. Beast KNEW that and he didnt give a fuck.
It’s also different to be in a terrible financial situation in the USA, we have very little support and once you’re homeless it’s very hard to reenter the normal work force
also, the stench from the ice cream machine and hot tub is unbearable. if you've never experienced smelling those, you'll never know how disgusting they are. it's worse than a garbage dump. jake wasn't exaggerating. being exposed to those for days is insane. I can't even stand it for even an HOUR. I know because in audit, you can be assigned to check operations of various companies and some don't maintain their machines & ingredients. I've even been exposed to expired chemicals. the stench of rotting and stale things are terrible. it sticks to you
I would have for sure jumped at the opportunity. I wouldn't start thinking about how horrible it might be once things got going, I'd be thinking about the money I'll be getting at the end.
Would you want more drama coverage on this channel? Lmk x
YES CAM
Yesss 100%
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yes coz u make it more interesting
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When mr beast fired Marcus he went on a live revealing all the allegations but no one believed him
Oooo that's rough. Camnuggets I think it is, just done a video of a dude from a contest. The original video uploaded is from 2 years ago, and it literally got 25 views until yesterday. Practically got buried because it wasn't a narrative RUclips wanted to push out
You handle these "drama" videos with such maturity, honestly one of the few people I trust to give all the information about these situations without trying to sway my opinion in any way. Pls do keep us up to date ❤
I agree with a lot that you said. But as far as the ice cream machine and hot tub. The ice cream machine reeked of spoiled milk when not on and when on made such a loud noise. All of his senses were being attacked constantly. So every little thing they did was on purpose. They were literally trying to break that man down all because Jimmy didnt like him
Yeah i didnt enjoy cams take on the solitary situation, he says he would never get himself into that situation but he's also never worked for Mr Beast, never had £300,000 almost guaranteed and placed infront of him and why does he think an ex-writer who has faked vids before would have thought he would genuinely be tortured? no REASONABLE person would expect to be literally kept in solitary confinement for a month, for a youtube video.
Its practically victim blaming.
@@mrbigweld1618 it's not victim blaming, he's just coming from a completely different viewpoint, and set of principles. People are different, Cam clearly said he wouldn't put himself in that position. All that really proves is that he can't empathise with someone that, in a similar situation, would think only of the short term gain and not the long term effects. I don't agree with his take, but he in no way blames Jake.
@@pixlhound saying that you personally wouldnt get yourself into that situation IS victim blaming. he said if jake didnt agree to this, he wouldnt have been tortured. Which is A.) Victim blaming and B.) False. No-one should be tortured no matter what situations they do or do not put themselves in. Its not short term to think 300k could sort a lot of your life out. Cams never been in this situation so he can't say whether he would do it or not. This is common sense i fear.
@@mrbigweld1618 No, actually, it ISN'T victim blaming. It's an inability to empathise because he recognises he would have made different decisions based on different motivations. Of course he can say what he would have done, he did. It's really not difficult to realise that someone is not motivated by the same things you are, and therefore would make different decisions. Not once did Cam say that it was the victims fault for making the decision he did, and yes, actually it is short term to think of the money over your mental health. 300k pays your debt, but nothing more, especially when you then have to fork out for therapy. This really isn't a difficult concept to get your head around, but as you seem to be struggling, I don't think you are any kind of authority on common sense.
@pixlhound oh wow an idiot telling me i have no authority over common sense, what an ins- no, no thats a compliment
For the ex girlfriend being vague she could simply be scared about sharing her own experiences but still wants people to know she doesn't support him.
Can't believe we've reached the day where cam kirkham made a video on mr beast drama before moist critical 💀
His silence on this matter is actually very concerning, he's one of a few youtubers left that had any credibility.
Yeah well actually I have an update regarding drama I don’t know if you’re aware but Charlie has actually stepped away from that now he doesn’t cover much drama anymore .
because of like the backlash against the Ava/Chris Tyson thing . and done his opinions and all that
and he decided he’s just going to step away from it because for about a year he hasn’t enjoyed covering drama and it’s just not for him anymore
@@Arctic-void-z7f ludwig said something similar but still made a video because of how tied to Mr beast he is, Charlie has defended Jimmy for years him staying silent now isn't helping anyone but Mr beast.
@JPayne95 not speaking on a topic means nothing. Stop trying to force people to speak on issues and condemning them if they don't. If he doesn't want to talk about it, he has no obligation to and that doesn't make him guilty of anything. People are so entitled when it comes to youtubers, jesus.
He said he's stepped away from covering youtuber drama due to everyone calling him out when he doesn't cover stuff quickly enough, I think people were calling him out for not making a video in less than 24hrs when all the cody ko stuff broke
Liking this new take on your channel - more of this would be great for anyone who doesn’t have time to catch up 👏
Really appreciate this mate 🙏🏻❤️
I haven't watched Mr. Beast in a few years and omg youtube has been going down the drain recently
Yeah exactly, imallexx, Wilbur soot, and now mr beast
It’s been this way since the beginning. And I was there. 😂
I’m so glad you mentioned this. Watching rosanna pansino be alone trying to help protect people has been so sad. I’m glad people are now speaking up about how wrong this situation is ❤
Publicly displayed "philanthropy" is the worst kind of vanity.
The only thing about this video that I didn’t like, was that Cam didn’t show the parts when Jake Weddle was talking about how they made out the solitary confinement video to be some sort of paradise with a hot tub, ice cream machine, ps5, VR etc. Also the part where MrBeast made him literally run a MARATHON on the treadmill as part of the challenge. Other than that I think you did an amazing job summing this up!👍👍
(This is not meant to be hate I just hoist it was a little weird you didn’t mention that)
using a phrase from anti rape culture is so deliberate. That's so scummy.
In no way am i defending Mr beast, but your comment is ignorant as fuck...
There's no way it was pre-meditated, just a coincidence that was overlooked, still dumb on their part.
But you are 100% reaching just to make more problems.
Where’s my half eaten apple then?😡
For real
i got mine sent
@@Randomguyyay still waiting on mine 😒
I think it's the tone of his philanthropy videos, and the way he talks to the people he's helping that really makes me personally uncomfortable. There's a clip of him being so insanely tone death with one of the people he's helping, and it nearly killed me. I really believe that he doesn't care and is using it for his image.
i wont lie his videos being fake might be the least suprising thing ever
The people who’ve been posted at the top of the RUclips pyramid have been falling off left, right and center.
As much as I hate the things they’ve done and the people they’ve hurt along the way, I’m glad to see the pyramid finally starting to crumble and people feeling safe to tell their stories.
Hopefully some of the creators deserving of more views and subscribers can climb up now and show people how to be at the top and still be a good person.
cam ill be honest, I think criticising Jake for getting involved in the isolation video is a bit silly considering how he was essentially peer pressured into agreeing to it, particularly moreso as he needed the money, and i don't want to be rude, but this video as a whole felt like you were interjecting yourself a bit too much, 'I would never have taken that video deal' comes across as a bit insensitive - A fan since around 5 or 6 years ago
That’s totally understandable mate, thank you for you opinion on this, I get your point of view 🙌🏻
If he needed the money, he did it for the money. Thats it.
He did his part. He could quit. He wasn’t forced.
Saying someone was “pressured” because “it’s money” is like saying work is “pressured” because “you want money.”
Like no shit. You have to work to have money. That’s life. No one is forcing you though. You could NOT have money if you want? But… that’s dumb, when jobs are everywhere.
@@MikeyWins11 wasnt just pressured by money (also wasnt just 'money', it was LIFE changing money) but also peer pressure, there would have been a sense of feeling forced to finish or else disappoint his peers and employers, we've already seen how short of a fuse the employers have, also quiting after a huge setup has been created may feel awkward to let down all those who worked hard on it
yeah, we also don’t know if there was a contract or any sort of formal agreement that gave him an out (y’know, a safe word essentially)… like in research trials with human subjects, they have to be able to withdraw consent. and if there wasn’t any such provision then clearly not all parts of the video were well thought through.
when i saw the notification i was so excited ngl
i love your vids
Your commentary on things that are quasi-legal such as the drama surrounding Baby Reindeer and the Mr Beast controversy is very thoughtful and well-researched. Yes, you should play to your strengths and analyse situations like this because you have a very approachable way of cutting straight to the heart of the issues whilst remaining as impartial as is appropriate given the information being analysed.
Ok so sociopath isn't something that's used now and would be classed as 'Antisocial personality disorder'. As someone who has it its so easy to spot other people who also show the traits. MrBeast has always shown the traits, he gets gets enjoyment from putting people through the challenges and doesn't have any empathy for the other people actually in them, they are just a chess piece in his game. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to aim and end up in places of power like government, television, ceos ect and he strives for the top of youtube. He uses money and power to manipulate people which will be why he gets people who work for him or know him to do the videos because people who don't know him or someone involved will not take the treatment. People with aspd are also amazing at putting up a front of being a good person who cares for others and only wants the best (politicians do it all the time). Cult leaders and serial killers are also known for having aspd and its known that they have the facade of being a charismatic and kind person. The people close to him will also either be so manipulated into loyalty or will be bad people too because like calls to like, he will keep his personal circle small but they will all know the truth.
It takes so much therapy and working on yourself to deal with and handle aspd, it's taken me 5years and I still struggle. Everyday it is a conscious decision to be a better person but many don't do it because why be a good person when you can manipulate and end up at the top right? He 100% does not care about the drama or how it has affected anybody involved, he only cares about his money and his vision. He will put out a lawyer written statement and keep going on with his life as it is.
0:01 Video starts here btw guys
thanks for the info u earned a like
Wow thx that's really helpful :)
Thx man I’ve been trying to figure this out for a while jow
Thanks man you’re a lifesaver 🙏🏻
Yeah real original bud
Cam this is great work 🙌🙌 , a lot of influences and RUclipsrs have strayed away from talking about this , but not you , we love your honesty keep going xx
14:40 The car thing went further though, in that they supposedly didn’t even replace his car or give him enough money to. If you’re gonna destroy someone’s car for a video you’ll make tons of money on, at least buy the guy a brand new car. This, of course, all just testimony of one guy with a bone to grind, so I’m not all-in on that, but if it’s as he told it, it’s really shitty.
I think the overall message of all of this to come out about the business side, not the other allegations, is that Mr Beast is 1) making sick amounts of money off people’s suffering, like he’s some sort of savior, when it’s all ultimately making him wayyy MORE money (which we already knew since it’s his business model) and 2) he doesn’t pay all the people who are actually providing him with the entertainment and emotional core of his content with the anywhere near the value they’re providing him. (But he has a special crew of best buds who presumably do get more, and get treated wayyy better.)
I mean, sure, a business has to make a profit, but does it need to be that out of proportion? Such that a dude whose car he destroyed FOR CONTENT doesn’t get a new car (plus covered of the taxes and fees) that the company can definitely afford?
As for his philanthropy: he centers himself as the savior. Sure, the money has to come from somewhere, but the way he goes about it is clearly purely for his RUclips career. Why does he need to have those creepy thumbnails, and why lie about giving blind people their sight back? He paid for people with terrible eyesight to have the surgery that they couldn’t afford, but he didn’t heal the blind. It feels exploitative. Perhaps pay for the philanthropy with the stunt videos. There are many different ways to do philanthropy.
The main distaste I have has been the same as always. I’ve never been in his target demographic or been interested in his videos, but he’s hard to not at least be aware of if you use RUclips, and I have always been put off by his “Lord Bountiful” act. Truly generous and kind people don’t make a huuuge profit off their charity and the people they help.
Yeah I watched 2 before I found him to be a protencious prick!
I always knew there was something dodgey with him
Never liked the way he smiled seemed bit forced.
His early career was based on putting down young children so I've never trusted this goody two shoes angle
@@turnermarius4471Yeah his smile never really seemed to meet his eyes
@@turnermarius4471he has dead eyes
love ur pfp!! kubzscouts 4 life
You dressed up fancy for this vid cam 😂😂😂
Love the vid! Just subbed ❤️ the “favorite RUclipsrs favorite RUclipsr” was a chappel roan/MF doom reference 😂
I think you kinda missed a point with the solitary vid. They said he was gonna get 300k for it. I dont think anyone would do it for £10, but the monetary incentive was kinda like a bribe. We can all say well i just wouldnt have done it but if it was offered and you thought ud atleast be safe and instantly get significantly better financially (which he didnt even get paid the full amount), i feel like actually a lot of people would do it.
I mean it is a life changing amount of money. And who knows what his finances were like / his family situation was.
8:22 I'm not sure why you turned into a Muppets character 😂
😭😭
@@CamKirkham “MAKE IT MAKE SENSE! MISKA MOOSKA MICKEYYYY MOUSE”
Bro became mickey
The second video was hard to watch. You can tell he’s been through serious trauma & no one deserves to go through that.
Cam cooks up a video literally any time I need something to watch I think he has powers
When we’re hungry, Cam cooks for us all. Maybe HE is the real RUclips Jesus
When we’re hungry, Cam cooks for us all. Maybe HE is the real RUclips Jesus
never skip a 40 minute Cam Kirkham video
Mr. Beast has been making money off the desperation of people who are suffering. Of course it’s always been gross.
I agree. I can't people are so naive that they couldn't see the blatant profiteering. Also his cold dead eyes.
All I know is Rosanna makes some good points
this is just heartbreaking that Mr Beast would do this. Like the part of the child mindset happened to me when i was like 7
Same its pretty scary how many children are brainwashed and also dont know about the situation
It's true what they say, you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. I always thought Mr. Beast was another YT cockroach.
Oooh ive been waiting for you to cover thiss!! Happy you finally did :D
After watching 5 different youtubers cover this topic, Cam is the first that has actually taken it seriously, had valid and insightful points to add to the video, and has by far been the first I’ve seen to actually look at this from the perspective of the everyman, and not solely from a place of being a youtuber.
There has always been something scummy about MrBeast. The whole brand. I wish we could just have genuine people in the world...
44 minute video? Cam kirkham, BABY!
eyyy i’ve been aware this was going down but didn’t have any of the details. wouldn’t mind more drama vids, from a distance is my favourite way to hear about the drama x
Appreciate the lengthy video Cam, loved the video :)
hi cam can you do a video on the ava chris tyson situation? love you and your videos x
Yes🤝🏼 Didn’t want to do it in this one as feel like there’s so much to unpack on that alone
Most of this was good, but the solitary confinement take was a bit victim blamey. Especially with the amount of medical & student l debt in the US - it's understandable why someone would agree to that _especially knowing jimmy fakes parts of his videos._ I very much doubt that Jake thought he would actually be *literally tortured.*
The take just reeks of the whole "why didht she leave him?" "why did she go back to him?" narrative with victims of domestic abuse... It shows a fundamental lack of understanding about how power dynamics, manipulation, and abuse works and completely warps your perspective. Jimmy knew he had control over Jake and could get him to return to a situation where he could dehumanise, torture, and traumatise him. That element isn't about youtube videos, that element is because Jimmy is sadistic and gets joy out of tormenting people, making a video out of it is just a bonus, "good business sense" to him.
Please do better with this sort of thing in future - I still enjoy the videos, but was annoyed with that element.
We have 2 young boys who literally ADORE Mr Beast. Yet another influencer gone bad, I’m running out of excuses for my boys 🤬
New Cam video, we're so bloody back!!
Why does cam look like he’s dressed for court? like that one top that your ma gets you to look smart for court😂😂
I like how you've covered the story, however I think you have been unfair and rather insensitive on some points. To say you wouldn't have done the solitary confinement video almost appears to try to invalidate Jake's struggles (although I know that wasn't your intention) and doesn't really think about the bigger picture. Essentially a rich man with all the power is dangling money at you and saying it should be an easy win while you're someone who desperately needs that money and you don't want to say no else he could ruin your career. In that situation, most people would say yes. It wasn't a choice. And it shares a horrifying similarity with Harvey Weinstien and others who use their power to manipulate people into doing what they want them to do. You can't say for sure that you wouldn't have done it, and it devalues Jake's experience by saying that. And regardless of whether you would have done it or not, no one expected he would literally be tortured, and ofc he wouldn't have done it knowing that in hindsight. That's the position you find yourself in, knowing how bad it became, so again it's easier to say you wouldn't have done it.
Otherwise I do adore you and your videos Cam, I just think there's a few more nuances and seriousness involved in the situation than you gave it credit for.
cam i dont mean to point stuff out but what on earth is that cut bro 😭
Bowl cut and mullet combined
idk if this is the video to be pointing out someone's haircut...
Aww ffs…
you’ve entered the no joke zone
I REPEAT NO FUN
@@allyh7075 why
Loving the new hair cam
Mr beast definitely manipulates people to do things with money. I don’t think we can blame someone for agreeing to it when offered that amount of money especially if they are desperate! A video like that just shouldn’t exist period.
12:24 dogpack man and then slagging off marvel made me LAUGH i wont even lie 😂
W video cam, now I’ve got something to binge while I’m on holiday
Can't belive I used to look up to MRbeast I feel dumb now
Here's a little bit of advice don't ever look up to any influencers look up to your parents
@@eoinm5758 here's a little bit of advice, not everyone's parents are worth looking up to. my dad did things that make Jimmy look like a saint in comparison and I'm proud to say I do not look up to that man one bit. also to the OP - don't feel dumb, manipulators are good at what they do because they prey on the goodness in people and the human instinct to see the best in someone. he also specifically targeted younger people who have less experience with manipulation. the shame is on Jimmy, not the audience.
@allyh7075 you're the exception not the rule just because 1 million people have a bad experience that the rest of the 7 billion on the planet have to bow down
@@eoinm5758they're dead-I'm an orphan
@@allyh7075influencer are called so cos they influence people😊
If I were to have gone to prison for financial fraud or robbing a bank, I would be barred from working in any financial field, but when it’s kids, not money, it’s okay
Unfortunately, in law money is always seen as more important if u rob a bank or commit fraud u get more years than R-ing and kiddy fiddling which most don't get anything...so I'm not surprised they just overlook it and allow him to work there
Loving the videos mate. Fellow Geordie here. Love the content. One of the most genuine channels on here. Much love marra
I love it when he called us donuts 🍩
0:09 GEORGE MEMEULOUS MENTIONED??
Ngl there’s not a lot I wouldn’t do for lots of money. I can totally see how much power he holds here
I’m autistic and watch your videos every one they help me as I use RUclips to distract myself and your my fave out of them all - mr beast , George , will and Jim , sidemen , you are just so down to earth and funny! Just wanted to say thanks for the content cam and never change !! 🎉
first commentary/ drama review i've been fully invested in for a while
Appreciate this mate !
Apparently Jake Weddle’s patreon (if I’m remembering correctly) _will_ be a like, comedy support group of sorts. Where people can like write their jokes and get feedback on it all. And just kind of all talk about what you’d like to do in comedy.
But he could’ve been talking about his discord and I misheard him on that. But I do know he was saying he’s planning on doing that on a site of sorts. I forget which one now 😂 and I’m extra hard of hearing right now(ear infection😫). But trying to help! 💜💜💜
A lot of people would take that offer bc we’re all so broke and desperate for money. It very much is squid games irl… remember how badly they all needed that $?
I wholeheartedly believe squid games is based on Mr. Beast.
“MrBeast is RUclips Jesus” (Charlie comes out of the woodworks giving side eye).
Also, I don’t think him using CGI is a bad thing. But it’s the fact that he openly says that everything is real and that he doesn’t use CGI and his kid audience will watch that and think that he doesn’t when it’s not true so it’s not that he uses CGI to me that’s an issue. It’s the lying that’s the problem. I will admit that I am a flawed person. You don’t see that when you watch my RUclips videos but I’m not gonna deny it if someone asked me if I’m always positive the answer is no. And that’s the problem that I have with MrBeast is not his CGI usage it’s the denial of it.
I would love for Cam to cover more RUclips news or drama because he is fair and neutral. It is nice.
I love your accent 😊 also ty for talking about this.
You're the only person who could get me to watch a mr beast centric video. Before this I could proudly say I had never even heard his voice.
a Brazilian contestant of Big Brother had a literal psychosis on air, and we were all watching, it was AWFULL, they took so long to take her out (she ended up quitting herself because she believed the button she pressed was part of the game, she believed that everyone else were actors and she "figured it out") and she has come out and spoke about it after and how affected her entire life and she took some distance from social media since them, even her doctor posted an open letter about her mental break on air, it was really bad.
I thought it was weird that Mac was in a video, so I'm glad you mentioned that.
Came for the drama, stayed for the accent, subscribed for the wit 👏
the editing is fire woah
Cam, you need to watch CTK’s video on the drama. He goes over Dogpak’s video and his thoughts which I tend to agree with - his views are different to yours on Mr Beast’s practices so might give you a different perspective
Cam this is such a well-rounded, thorough video and you presented it so well
new cam kirkham feature length video just dropped
just eat a apple while u record lmao and also @1:54 all i hear is and he looks at me AND I LOOK AT HIM! lmfao!
Best underrated creator on RUclipsr, great vid cam! Why ain’t you on the millions of subs it’s crazy
Would love a Kris Tyson video because you brought up viewpoints about the Mr Beast I didn’t previously see. I would love to see your take on the situation
The hair, the accent, the drama. I don't know who this is, but I'm here for IT!
His videos now are so bad….but I always knew he wasn’t what we thought….but it is still super disappointing to hear all this come out….I feel a lot of RUclipsrs are going down hill lately and it’s sad 😢😢😢 R.I.P
i like this format! more like a video essay
thanks cam! ❤❤❤
i’m on holiday right now but that won’t stop me from watching
Thank god because I’ve been needing a summary recently 😭
Wow this guys hot
Mr beast videos always seemed so fake and robotic to me, they have hardly any personality and just feels so money oriented. They always get millions of views but I just can't put myself through them 😅 I need some personality in the videos I watch loool
the pure contrast between george's video and cams is crazy but im gonna draw that down to the fact memeulous only watched the first video
My problem with him was the squid game thing. He recreated the competition in the show which was meant to highlight the wealth disparity in modern day society and HE RECREATED IT.......I was flabbergasted.
You know it's bad when Cam Kirkham is talking about it.
you forgot the ex employee that went on 3ho(idk the name of the show on youtube) and said that they used to make jokes about fu****** the managers KID that was a young kid, to his face, until he freaked out and pushed a dude on the ocean because 'the jokes were too bad at that point".
Tbf there is a gap in the market now for a new drama commentary channel x
Whats more insane is that cam is probably the first big uk RUclipsr to talk about Mr. Beast that isnt Kavos. 😂
Literally the only video I’ve seen of his is the one where Harry won a plane
I love getting the tea from your videos, even if its old tea 🍵
MrBeast is the anticrist at least RUclipss anticrist
Thank you for all the work you put into this, honestly making the whole situation easier to understand
8:26 you went into Mickey Mouse voice here 😂
THAT TRIM!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
HELP I DIDNT EVEN NOTICE💀💀💀
That guy at the start can’t blink
There is no difference between filming giving a homeless person 20€ and filming yourself giving everyone in a village a bottle of water. You cannot make one thing seem good and the other bad. both are acts of kindness both are good. Both should be shared to get more people to help out.