Hey Joe, it's being a while since I last saw a video of yours. And watching this one I can't help but remember why I watched you so much. They way you teach things is a level above of everyone else. You make everything so clear. Thank you for that. Hope you're doing well on this never ending quarentine. Cheers from Brazil mate.
@@DjShakaSa if i had the attentionspan of a fly i would feel the same way. dunning-kruger effect is a cool thing, makes losers tell the do-ers to shut up. ( a non-retard would think, oh i feel that 3 sentences are too much, i should work on my attention but then there would be no entertainment here)
Wonderful breakdown of the "zones" the highs really do provide that high fi sheen to things. And it also makes you think, for a cappella sections of a song, you can really open up the frequency range on the vocals and maybe that's where those more expensive mic can really shine.
"Listen" is my #1 fav song from you. I discovered it in the midrange video and have since been its admirer. I honestly think it's a killer song. Keep it up!
And hey, here's a request: Could you make a video for us "ear-blind" on How to identify if the problem is the vocals, the recording or the mix of the vocals. I don't have any problems mixing scream/gutural vocals, but when it comes to clean/pretty vocals I always just give up on the mix and hope for the best. I can never identify what's the problem. Funny enough, when I grab multitracks to practice, I don't have this problem in such a high-level, which leads me to believe that the problem is either the recording or the singer that come to my home-studio.
Also, it's never the tuning the problem. Taking my horrible clean vocal as an example, I do sing on key, but still can't be happy with the mixed results
Wow one of my favourite videos right here. Did a great job making clear the point of view to face a take. Especially the eq zone part. Could you do something like this with compression and dinamics, reverb and delay? You're the best sir. Hi from Cuba
Hi Joe!! Greetings from Brazil!! I really love all your videos!! It helps me a lot!! I sing, compose and play, and I'm working hard to produce my own gospel songs. So, you encourage me a lot!! Including in the days I feel far away from the target... Thanks so much!!! God bless you a lot!!!
I have always liked the saying "for to break the rules you must first know the rules". This video nicely presented the rules. It is usually good to have a discussion with the vocalist. If the vocalist is good and he or she knows it, it is usually wise to follow the rules. If the vocalist is not that great (like me) it is time to "make it sound cool" and then you usually bend some of the rules. Nevertheless, even then it is good to know the rules. At least it saves time.
i use that saying also. when you mastered a craft you can play with the rules but you can only play with them after mastering them. just going against the rules without the context of overcoming them is incompetence. i love those ppl, that cant write a clean cadence for 4 bars but want to break up the concepts they didnt get in the first.
Yes there are rules or at least things that are greatly suggested. I drive a motorcycle and when I'm going down the road I'll be the first to tell "Freedom!" But, how much freedom is it really? I have to stay in the lane I'm in, slow down for cars in front, stop for a red light, etc. I can pick any road I want but there are rules to get there. If you like what you're hearing, great! If you want it to sell, then you've got some heavily suggested guidelines to get there.
Dude. Nailed it. I've got a beefy low end baritone. A lot of songs such as rock or country benefit from a small low end hump around 225 to bring out the power and grunt of my voice but I just did a 50 style jazz song with an old school mix, man did my voice sound bad mixed like that in that context. A resonant baritone booming over a stripped back mellow 50s jazz groove.
You have a great voice Joe. Every time I hear you sing, I really wish I was a decent singer man. I'd love to hear you sing some heavier rock stuff. Thanks for another great video.
What a good person you are Mr Joe, I've been watching few tutorials on your channel, %85 are fully effective, lots of educational stuff. I highly recommend your channel to my friends. And I've been listening your "listen song Over and over again ❤️, you really did amazing song. I'm a producer, and a bit know how to mix a bit enough, and I'll like to make remix of your song" listen"if too.
I love your work Joe. When I hear pro vocals, I hear what I'll just call a "floating head", or a vocal that sits literally on top of everything else. To get that, I cut an upward slope from 20hz to near the middle. Then I'll raise the high end at 4-8khz a bit or even more to get the head to float. It's probably more of a low end cut that what you do for your vocals and by itself, it sounds a little weird, but with all the other instruments, it can really stand out.
This has fast become my favorite youtube channel. Everything is well communicated and it helps you have a voice that's easy to listen to. Keep up the good work.
Just made the switch from Logic Pro X to the sublime Studio One 5 Pro. This DAW is amazing, and so beautiful to look at. I’m so glad I’ve found your channel, definitely gonna learn a lot from you.👍
When someone makes a video on how to work with vocals, the first thing I check is how their voice sounds in the video itself As soon as I've heard Joe's rich and professionally recorded voice I was like "you've got my attention!"
Joe over the years your videos have always been my go to for reference when I want to learn about live sound. you have always been very accurate about the information on the videos. Today through your reference I learned about zones which it is something very Important when mixing vocals. Thank you for your knowledge and taking the time to teach me through your videos. I really appreciate learning from of the great sound engineer.
Thanks for the vocal tips Joe. I was wondering why my vocals sounded a bit harsh at times. Now I can hopefully zoom in at the specific frequency range and try to fix the problem.
Exactly why I don't worry about owning a 5k mic. No advantage if the person singing doesn't use the mic correctly or the engineer doesn't use the correct setup while recording. If you have to go through all that to make the track sound right, check your setup. Using the right mic and set up for a given singer will pretty much eliminate much of the eq processing and give you a high energy, high quality track to work with. But it doesn't need to cost 5k. Back to basics. Go for the plugins later. Nice to know how to fix a bad track though..
Ah, thank you :) this was very helpful and insightful. It also explains why some of my vocal mixing attempts came out the way they did 🤧 again, thank you for this insightful video!!
I have started to use a cheap pen condencer mic from gear4musics own series and I cut lows, reduce about 3 db at 440 and at 2200 and no reverb or delay, that is it and it works ok.
Have you tried cutting a little higher more like 3k range? I found cutting this range while adding freq in 6-7k later in the chain really can make the vocals sit
You have to approach eq like a sculptor. A sculptor shaves stuff off of the sculpture before they add anything. This is to create perception. Without perception adding stuff becomes very difficult to pull off.
Great tips right when I needed them! Thanks joe :) also a great example of some excessively warm and thick vocal production is the album “the truth is a beautiful thing” by London grammar. The style of music calls for the vocal to be by far the most prominent thing and the music is very in the background but my goodness the THICCNESS of the vocal Is insane and amazing! I wish I could pull it off haha
That was a world -class Mater impression sir
Your explanations and ability to break down terminology with examples are incredible to say the least! I'm a new follower!
Getting the vocals right is definitely the toughest learning curve for me. Getting there slowly thanks to your videos 👌
Love that you explained each frequency range for vocal. Thanks a lot!
The best on RUclips, no drama just in depth details 🙏🙏🙏
You are my favorite "mentor" in the quest for excellent sound production. Thank you!
Lol “ear blind”
Sometimes I go “smell def”
😂
@@HomeStudioCorner great channel you’ve helped me a lot
Ear blind means "someone who can't see ears".
thats actually a thing called "nose blind" lmfao
@Felipe Khalid
Hope you don’t find any heartache on her Instagram
the fact that you're giving out this information for free is such a blessing! thank you for the help
Thanks so much Mr. Joe from Colombia.
Hey Joe, it's being a while since I last saw a video of yours. And watching this one I can't help but remember why I watched you so much. They way you teach things is a level above of everyone else. You make everything so clear. Thank you for that.
Hope you're doing well on this never ending quarentine.
Cheers from Brazil mate.
Problem you talk too much bro🙄
@@DjShakaSa You could spend less time talking shit in the comment section and more time learning how to make a good song
@@DjShakaSa if i had the attentionspan of a fly i would feel the same way. dunning-kruger effect is a cool thing, makes losers tell the do-ers to shut up. ( a non-retard would think, oh i feel that 3 sentences are too much, i should work on my attention but then there would be no entertainment here)
@@DjShakaSa wtf is wrong with you?
Wonderful breakdown of the "zones" the highs really do provide that high fi sheen to things.
And it also makes you think, for a cappella sections of a song, you can really open up the frequency range on the vocals and maybe that's where those more expensive mic can really shine.
"Listen" is my #1 fav song from you. I discovered it in the midrange video and have since been its admirer. I honestly think it's a killer song. Keep it up!
Thank you!
And hey, here's a request: Could you make a video for us "ear-blind" on How to identify if the problem is the vocals, the recording or the mix of the vocals.
I don't have any problems mixing scream/gutural vocals, but when it comes to clean/pretty vocals I always just give up on the mix and hope for the best. I can never identify what's the problem. Funny enough, when I grab multitracks to practice, I don't have this problem in such a high-level, which leads me to believe that the problem is either the recording or the singer that come to my home-studio.
Also, it's never the tuning the problem. Taking my horrible clean vocal as an example, I do sing on key, but still can't be happy with the mixed results
This is and EXCELLENT video Joe. Thank you and God bless you
Saving this for future reference. I love how each range is demonstrated in turn.
Wow one of my favourite videos right here. Did a great job making clear the point of view to face a take. Especially the eq zone part. Could you do something like this with compression and dinamics, reverb and delay? You're the best sir. Hi from Cuba
You got it. 👍
Yes great format. And explanation of zones. And why we need to pay attention
Best video on editing vocal EQ so far. More in this format pls. Great!
Hi Joe!! Greetings from Brazil!! I really love all your videos!! It helps me a lot!! I sing, compose and play, and I'm working hard to produce my own gospel songs. So, you encourage me a lot!! Including in the days I feel far away from the target... Thanks so much!!! God bless you a lot!!!
I have always liked the saying "for to break the rules you must first know the rules". This video nicely presented the rules. It is usually good to have a discussion with the vocalist. If the vocalist is good and he or she knows it, it is usually wise to follow the rules. If the vocalist is not that great (like me) it is time to "make it sound cool" and then you usually bend some of the rules. Nevertheless, even then it is good to know the rules. At least it saves time.
i use that saying also. when you mastered a craft you can play with the rules but you can only play with them after mastering them. just going against the rules without the context of overcoming them is incompetence. i love those ppl, that cant write a clean cadence for 4 bars but want to break up the concepts they didnt get in the first.
Yes there are rules or at least things that are greatly suggested. I drive a motorcycle and when I'm going down the road I'll be the first to tell "Freedom!"
But, how much freedom is it really? I have to stay in the lane I'm in, slow down for cars in front, stop for a red light, etc. I can pick any road I want but there are rules to get there.
If you like what you're hearing, great! If you want it to sell, then you've got some heavily suggested guidelines to get there.
Thank you. Love it. Such a good video for troubleshooting...
Thanks for this excellent video. You are clear and helpful!
Great advice and you make it easy to understand. Thanks
Great tips, especially Know your zones. My problems are different - my voice is thinner, more harsh, with mouth noises. And that is on a good day.
I liked your zone breakdown.
No magic sauce needed. That's fine this way. Thank you 💖
Dude. Nailed it. I've got a beefy low end baritone. A lot of songs such as rock or country benefit from a small low end hump around 225 to bring out the power and grunt of my voice but I just did a 50 style jazz song with an old school mix, man did my voice sound bad mixed like that in that context. A resonant baritone booming over a stripped back mellow 50s jazz groove.
This actually solves a lot of my problems instead...thanks very much.
Glad to hear it
This was super helpful, thank you! Would love a follow up where you apply this framework in an actual mix
Thankyou Joe
Your explanation of the EQ zones is the best I've heard. Thank you!
Awesome tips !!! Thankyou
Great bit of info Joe, really helpful to get started on vocal mixing
Wonderful insights. Kudos!
You have a great voice Joe. Every time I hear you sing, I really wish I was a decent singer man. I'd love to hear you sing some heavier rock stuff. Thanks for another great video.
this explains a lot for me as a biggener on mixing, thanks a lot
I think you're the best for us starters! 🙌🙌 We need more people like you here! ❤️
What a good person you are Mr Joe, I've been watching few tutorials on your channel, %85 are fully effective, lots of educational stuff. I highly recommend your channel to my friends. And I've been listening your "listen song Over and over again ❤️, you really did amazing song. I'm a producer, and a bit know how to mix a bit enough, and I'll like to make remix of your song" listen"if too.
I love your work Joe. When I hear pro vocals, I hear what I'll just call a "floating head", or a vocal that sits literally on top of everything else. To get that, I cut an upward slope from 20hz to near the middle. Then I'll raise the high end at 4-8khz a bit or even more to get the head to float. It's probably more of a low end cut that what you do for your vocals and by itself, it sounds a little weird, but with all the other instruments, it can really stand out.
really? no matter what mic, no matter what room, i catch myself cutting 2-6(or sometimes 8)khz like crazy.
Super clear video on frequency- thanks!
It's important to listen! First, premix. Clear up the bad sounding frequencies with an EQ. Now I'm able to hear such things, after years of hobbying.
This has fast become my favorite youtube channel. Everything is well communicated and it helps you have a voice that's easy to listen to. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Michael.
I don't know Joe, maybe your super warm vocal IS the right thing! Buck the Rules man!
I wish I had you as my mentor when I went to music school! Thanks for being here Joe! Truly blessed!🙏😭👌🔥
Honestly the way you explained the methodology for identifying problems in each range is super helpful actually! Nice content man
Thanks!
Just made the switch from Logic Pro X to the sublime Studio One 5 Pro. This DAW is amazing, and so beautiful to look at. I’m so glad I’ve found your channel, definitely gonna learn a lot from you.👍
I can't thank you enough for taking your time to explain this out, and killer vocals too btw
Watching you many videos today 😊
You better sing it boi 🙌🏾🔥
Thx Joe! Good energy you got going! Coffee and happy family, obviously. I learned about mud and shriekiness.
When someone makes a video on how to work with vocals, the first thing I check is how their voice sounds in the video itself
As soon as I've heard Joe's rich and professionally recorded voice I was like "you've got my attention!"
Thank you ❤️
Joe! A great master!! Keep it up, man!!!
Great Job Joe, Haven't listen to you in over a year but your still accurate and has always been dead on in your explanation.
Joe over the years your videos have always been my go to for reference when I want to learn about live sound. you have always been very accurate about the information on the videos. Today through your reference I learned about zones which it is something very Important when mixing vocals. Thank you for your knowledge and taking the time to teach me through your videos. I really appreciate learning from of the great sound engineer.
Joe always great stuff
Lol I watch your videos and laugh, that's why I like learning with you
Thank you
Thanks for the vocal tips Joe. I was wondering why my vocals sounded a bit harsh at times. Now I can hopefully zoom in at the specific frequency range and try to fix the problem.
This video was amazing!
Awesome video as usual. Thank you from Alberta Canada! Cheers!
lol love your personality and that was a superb southern accent, my friend :) ~Sadie
Wow! Gets to the point in 21 seconds. Nicely done.
gr8 vid..btw u r a good singer
That was helpful ! thank you
Exactly why I don't worry about owning a 5k mic. No advantage if the person singing doesn't use the mic correctly or the engineer doesn't use the correct setup while recording. If you have to go through all that to make the track sound right, check your setup. Using the right mic and set up for a given singer will pretty much eliminate much of the eq processing and give you a high energy, high quality track to work with. But it doesn't need to cost 5k. Back to basics. Go for the plugins later. Nice to know how to fix a bad track though..
you the best man
Ah, thank you :) this was very helpful and insightful. It also explains why some of my vocal mixing attempts came out the way they did 🤧 again, thank you for this insightful video!!
this was awesome, thanks!
Great Video. Love your step by Step approach. Also, my wife said to tell you that she loves your flooring in that room.
Lovely stuff! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Very clear explanations with examples, thanks! I like your type of music too :)
Thanks, very helpful information!
Thanks man, well done video.
This is the perfect example.
well done
dude super helpful video, thanks! 👍
I have started to use a cheap pen condencer mic from gear4musics own series and I cut lows, reduce about 3 db at 440 and at 2200 and no reverb or delay, that is it and it works ok.
Have you tried cutting a little higher more like 3k range? I found cutting this range while adding freq in 6-7k later in the chain really can make the vocals sit
Thank you🔥
Superb explanation on eq for vocals, in fact all your videos are the best ✋😎
Nice perspective
As usual, very useful! Thanks again Joe!!
Love the sounds you make in order to explain😆 Great tips!!🔥
Thanks Joe, great video. Learned a lot about approaching vocals next time!
Great videos my friend.
Super video Joe! A ton of great information.... WOW!
You have to approach eq like a sculptor. A sculptor shaves stuff off of the sculpture before they add anything. This is to create perception. Without perception adding stuff becomes very difficult to pull off.
Thank you 🙏🙏🔥
Great. Cheers. 👍
Literally took notes on this video
Love your tutorials from iran! 😻🙏
Great tips right when I needed them! Thanks joe :) also a great example of some excessively warm and thick vocal production is the album “the truth is a beautiful thing” by London grammar. The style of music calls for the vocal to be by far the most prominent thing and the music is very in the background but my goodness the THICCNESS of the vocal
Is insane and amazing! I wish I could pull it off haha
That last under the breath "beef" killed me! XD
So helpful brother! Thank you
your tips always add a lot of value. thanks 😊
Man, I had your song another 5 days in my ears 😃
So true!😉
Makes sense. Thanks man!
That’s a great vocal take!
Thank you Joe
Thanks man...