Hey Joe, it's being a while since I last saw a video of yours. And watching this one I can't help but remember why I watched you so much. They way you teach things is a level above of everyone else. You make everything so clear. Thank you for that. Hope you're doing well on this never ending quarentine. Cheers from Brazil mate.
@@DjShakaSa if i had the attentionspan of a fly i would feel the same way. dunning-kruger effect is a cool thing, makes losers tell the do-ers to shut up. ( a non-retard would think, oh i feel that 3 sentences are too much, i should work on my attention but then there would be no entertainment here)
"Listen" is my #1 fav song from you. I discovered it in the midrange video and have since been its admirer. I honestly think it's a killer song. Keep it up!
Wonderful breakdown of the "zones" the highs really do provide that high fi sheen to things. And it also makes you think, for a cappella sections of a song, you can really open up the frequency range on the vocals and maybe that's where those more expensive mic can really shine.
And hey, here's a request: Could you make a video for us "ear-blind" on How to identify if the problem is the vocals, the recording or the mix of the vocals. I don't have any problems mixing scream/gutural vocals, but when it comes to clean/pretty vocals I always just give up on the mix and hope for the best. I can never identify what's the problem. Funny enough, when I grab multitracks to practice, I don't have this problem in such a high-level, which leads me to believe that the problem is either the recording or the singer that come to my home-studio.
Also, it's never the tuning the problem. Taking my horrible clean vocal as an example, I do sing on key, but still can't be happy with the mixed results
Wow one of my favourite videos right here. Did a great job making clear the point of view to face a take. Especially the eq zone part. Could you do something like this with compression and dinamics, reverb and delay? You're the best sir. Hi from Cuba
Dude. Nailed it. I've got a beefy low end baritone. A lot of songs such as rock or country benefit from a small low end hump around 225 to bring out the power and grunt of my voice but I just did a 50 style jazz song with an old school mix, man did my voice sound bad mixed like that in that context. A resonant baritone booming over a stripped back mellow 50s jazz groove.
Hi Joe!! Greetings from Brazil!! I really love all your videos!! It helps me a lot!! I sing, compose and play, and I'm working hard to produce my own gospel songs. So, you encourage me a lot!! Including in the days I feel far away from the target... Thanks so much!!! God bless you a lot!!!
I love your work Joe. When I hear pro vocals, I hear what I'll just call a "floating head", or a vocal that sits literally on top of everything else. To get that, I cut an upward slope from 20hz to near the middle. Then I'll raise the high end at 4-8khz a bit or even more to get the head to float. It's probably more of a low end cut that what you do for your vocals and by itself, it sounds a little weird, but with all the other instruments, it can really stand out.
This has fast become my favorite youtube channel. Everything is well communicated and it helps you have a voice that's easy to listen to. Keep up the good work.
When someone makes a video on how to work with vocals, the first thing I check is how their voice sounds in the video itself As soon as I've heard Joe's rich and professionally recorded voice I was like "you've got my attention!"
Yes there are rules or at least things that are greatly suggested. I drive a motorcycle and when I'm going down the road I'll be the first to tell "Freedom!" But, how much freedom is it really? I have to stay in the lane I'm in, slow down for cars in front, stop for a red light, etc. I can pick any road I want but there are rules to get there. If you like what you're hearing, great! If you want it to sell, then you've got some heavily suggested guidelines to get there.
I have always liked the saying "for to break the rules you must first know the rules". This video nicely presented the rules. It is usually good to have a discussion with the vocalist. If the vocalist is good and he or she knows it, it is usually wise to follow the rules. If the vocalist is not that great (like me) it is time to "make it sound cool" and then you usually bend some of the rules. Nevertheless, even then it is good to know the rules. At least it saves time.
i use that saying also. when you mastered a craft you can play with the rules but you can only play with them after mastering them. just going against the rules without the context of overcoming them is incompetence. i love those ppl, that cant write a clean cadence for 4 bars but want to break up the concepts they didnt get in the first.
You have a great voice Joe. Every time I hear you sing, I really wish I was a decent singer man. I'd love to hear you sing some heavier rock stuff. Thanks for another great video.
Just made the switch from Logic Pro X to the sublime Studio One 5 Pro. This DAW is amazing, and so beautiful to look at. I’m so glad I’ve found your channel, definitely gonna learn a lot from you.👍
Thanks for the vocal tips Joe. I was wondering why my vocals sounded a bit harsh at times. Now I can hopefully zoom in at the specific frequency range and try to fix the problem.
What a good person you are Mr Joe, I've been watching few tutorials on your channel, %85 are fully effective, lots of educational stuff. I highly recommend your channel to my friends. And I've been listening your "listen song Over and over again ❤️, you really did amazing song. I'm a producer, and a bit know how to mix a bit enough, and I'll like to make remix of your song" listen"if too.
I love the beef. Just wondering if you cut the other instruments instead of cutting your vocal to get rid of the mud? However, I love this lesson. Keep it up cause it really helps us.
Ah, thank you :) this was very helpful and insightful. It also explains why some of my vocal mixing attempts came out the way they did 🤧 again, thank you for this insightful video!!
@joe gilder when I compare the sound of the 50ies, 60ies, 70ies, 80ies, 90ies, and post 2000, then they are of course different. Sure due to equipment and technology etc. But the 70ies, man the sound of the 70ies. Fantastic. Like mid 60ies to mid 70ies actually. They feel so glued together without being compressed too much. Even my mother who has no clue about recording asked me once "why is todays music always so loud and has no dynamics?". My mother. Can you imagine that? And I totally agree with her. People tell me that if I want to be able to compete with other mixes that I have to be loud. But I'm not so sure anymore. I want the dynamics more than being loud, and I have the feeling I'm not the only one and maybe there is a trend to mix differently again. What are your thoughts on that?
I agree. I grew up in that era and I love dynamics like Janis Joplin. Janis always sounded better live than on records. Dynamics make you feel more emotion. I am so frustrated when people tell me my mix needs more compression. Maybe it needs more work on EQ to reduce competition with other instruments, but too much compression ruins the dynamics and emotion.
i Roll of Upto 80 khz and make a dynamics eq in 200 khz and roll off above 19000 khz😢😢😢I sweep to find some disturbing frequncy and without being confident i do surgical eq😢😢😢😢I usually sing on a Piano 2 track....Can u Plz Say what frequency Should i look into
That was a world -class Mater impression sir
As a singer, this is is quite possibly one of the most helpful videos I have ever seen on youtube! Thank you so much.
The best on RUclips, no drama just in depth details 🙏🙏🙏
the fact that you're giving out this information for free is such a blessing! thank you for the help
Your explanations and ability to break down terminology with examples are incredible to say the least! I'm a new follower!
Lol “ear blind”
Sometimes I go “smell def”
😂
@@HomeStudioCorner great channel you’ve helped me a lot
Ear blind means "someone who can't see ears".
thats actually a thing called "nose blind" lmfao
@Felipe Khalid
Hope you don’t find any heartache on her Instagram
Love that you explained each frequency range for vocal. Thanks a lot!
Getting the vocals right is definitely the toughest learning curve for me. Getting there slowly thanks to your videos 👌
Great tips, especially Know your zones. My problems are different - my voice is thinner, more harsh, with mouth noises. And that is on a good day.
You are my favorite "mentor" in the quest for excellent sound production. Thank you!
I don't know Joe, maybe your super warm vocal IS the right thing! Buck the Rules man!
Hey Joe, it's being a while since I last saw a video of yours. And watching this one I can't help but remember why I watched you so much. They way you teach things is a level above of everyone else. You make everything so clear. Thank you for that.
Hope you're doing well on this never ending quarentine.
Cheers from Brazil mate.
Problem you talk too much bro🙄
@@DjShakaSa You could spend less time talking shit in the comment section and more time learning how to make a good song
@@DjShakaSa if i had the attentionspan of a fly i would feel the same way. dunning-kruger effect is a cool thing, makes losers tell the do-ers to shut up. ( a non-retard would think, oh i feel that 3 sentences are too much, i should work on my attention but then there would be no entertainment here)
@@DjShakaSa wtf is wrong with you?
Best video on editing vocal EQ so far. More in this format pls. Great!
"Listen" is my #1 fav song from you. I discovered it in the midrange video and have since been its admirer. I honestly think it's a killer song. Keep it up!
Thank you!
Saving this for future reference. I love how each range is demonstrated in turn.
Wonderful breakdown of the "zones" the highs really do provide that high fi sheen to things.
And it also makes you think, for a cappella sections of a song, you can really open up the frequency range on the vocals and maybe that's where those more expensive mic can really shine.
And hey, here's a request: Could you make a video for us "ear-blind" on How to identify if the problem is the vocals, the recording or the mix of the vocals.
I don't have any problems mixing scream/gutural vocals, but when it comes to clean/pretty vocals I always just give up on the mix and hope for the best. I can never identify what's the problem. Funny enough, when I grab multitracks to practice, I don't have this problem in such a high-level, which leads me to believe that the problem is either the recording or the singer that come to my home-studio.
Also, it's never the tuning the problem. Taking my horrible clean vocal as an example, I do sing on key, but still can't be happy with the mixed results
This is and EXCELLENT video Joe. Thank you and God bless you
Wow one of my favourite videos right here. Did a great job making clear the point of view to face a take. Especially the eq zone part. Could you do something like this with compression and dinamics, reverb and delay? You're the best sir. Hi from Cuba
You got it. 👍
Yes great format. And explanation of zones. And why we need to pay attention
Such a GREAT explanation and DEMO. Thanks!
Superb explanation on eq for vocals, in fact all your videos are the best ✋😎
I can't thank you enough for taking your time to explain this out, and killer vocals too btw
Thanks so much Mr. Joe from Colombia.
Super clear video on frequency- thanks!
Great advice and you make it easy to understand. Thanks
Thanks for this excellent video. You are clear and helpful!
Great bit of info Joe, really helpful to get started on vocal mixing
this explains a lot for me as a biggener on mixing, thanks a lot
Your explanation of the EQ zones is the best I've heard. Thank you!
Thanks, very helpful information!
Dude. Nailed it. I've got a beefy low end baritone. A lot of songs such as rock or country benefit from a small low end hump around 225 to bring out the power and grunt of my voice but I just did a 50 style jazz song with an old school mix, man did my voice sound bad mixed like that in that context. A resonant baritone booming over a stripped back mellow 50s jazz groove.
You better sing it boi 🙌🏾🔥
Joe! A great master!! Keep it up, man!!!
I think you're the best for us starters! 🙌🙌 We need more people like you here! ❤️
Thank you. Love it. Such a good video for troubleshooting...
Thx Joe! Good energy you got going! Coffee and happy family, obviously. I learned about mud and shriekiness.
Hi Joe!! Greetings from Brazil!! I really love all your videos!! It helps me a lot!! I sing, compose and play, and I'm working hard to produce my own gospel songs. So, you encourage me a lot!! Including in the days I feel far away from the target... Thanks so much!!! God bless you a lot!!!
I liked your zone breakdown.
Awesome video as usual. Thank you from Alberta Canada! Cheers!
Watching you many videos today 😊
I love your work Joe. When I hear pro vocals, I hear what I'll just call a "floating head", or a vocal that sits literally on top of everything else. To get that, I cut an upward slope from 20hz to near the middle. Then I'll raise the high end at 4-8khz a bit or even more to get the head to float. It's probably more of a low end cut that what you do for your vocals and by itself, it sounds a little weird, but with all the other instruments, it can really stand out.
really? no matter what mic, no matter what room, i catch myself cutting 2-6(or sometimes 8)khz like crazy.
This was super helpful, thank you! Would love a follow up where you apply this framework in an actual mix
Awesome tips !!! Thankyou
As usual, very useful! Thanks again Joe!!
This has fast become my favorite youtube channel. Everything is well communicated and it helps you have a voice that's easy to listen to. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Michael.
When someone makes a video on how to work with vocals, the first thing I check is how their voice sounds in the video itself
As soon as I've heard Joe's rich and professionally recorded voice I was like "you've got my attention!"
lol love your personality and that was a superb southern accent, my friend :) ~Sadie
Yes there are rules or at least things that are greatly suggested. I drive a motorcycle and when I'm going down the road I'll be the first to tell "Freedom!"
But, how much freedom is it really? I have to stay in the lane I'm in, slow down for cars in front, stop for a red light, etc. I can pick any road I want but there are rules to get there.
If you like what you're hearing, great! If you want it to sell, then you've got some heavily suggested guidelines to get there.
Great Video. Love your step by Step approach. Also, my wife said to tell you that she loves your flooring in that room.
Joe always great stuff
That’s a great vocal take!
Just stumbled on your channel. Good stuff...........really well explained. Your voice is also well-suited for VO work. 👍🏾
Thanks!
Honestly the way you explained the methodology for identifying problems in each range is super helpful actually! Nice content man
Thanks!
Super video Joe! A ton of great information.... WOW!
I have always liked the saying "for to break the rules you must first know the rules". This video nicely presented the rules. It is usually good to have a discussion with the vocalist. If the vocalist is good and he or she knows it, it is usually wise to follow the rules. If the vocalist is not that great (like me) it is time to "make it sound cool" and then you usually bend some of the rules. Nevertheless, even then it is good to know the rules. At least it saves time.
i use that saying also. when you mastered a craft you can play with the rules but you can only play with them after mastering them. just going against the rules without the context of overcoming them is incompetence. i love those ppl, that cant write a clean cadence for 4 bars but want to break up the concepts they didnt get in the first.
Lovely stuff! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Ty for this content man!
That last under the breath "beef" killed me! XD
This actually solves a lot of my problems instead...thanks very much.
Glad to hear it
Very clear explanations with examples, thanks! I like your type of music too :)
That was helpful ❤️
Thankyou Joe
So helpful brother! Thank you
This video was amazing!
Love the sounds you make in order to explain😆 Great tips!!🔥
No magic sauce needed. That's fine this way. Thank you 💖
Great Job Joe, Haven't listen to you in over a year but your still accurate and has always been dead on in your explanation.
You have a great voice Joe. Every time I hear you sing, I really wish I was a decent singer man. I'd love to hear you sing some heavier rock stuff. Thanks for another great video.
Lol I watch your videos and laugh, that's why I like learning with you
Thank you
Just made the switch from Logic Pro X to the sublime Studio One 5 Pro. This DAW is amazing, and so beautiful to look at. I’m so glad I’ve found your channel, definitely gonna learn a lot from you.👍
Wonderful insights. Kudos!
Very good frequency guide!
Thanks for the vocal tips Joe. I was wondering why my vocals sounded a bit harsh at times. Now I can hopefully zoom in at the specific frequency range and try to fix the problem.
I love your videos and how you teach. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Anthony.
Thanks Joe, great video. Learned a lot about approaching vocals next time!
your tips always add a lot of value. thanks 😊
Wow! Gets to the point in 21 seconds. Nicely done.
What a good person you are Mr Joe, I've been watching few tutorials on your channel, %85 are fully effective, lots of educational stuff. I highly recommend your channel to my friends. And I've been listening your "listen song Over and over again ❤️, you really did amazing song. I'm a producer, and a bit know how to mix a bit enough, and I'll like to make remix of your song" listen"if too.
dude super helpful video, thanks! 👍
this was awesome, thanks!
Makes sense. Thanks man!
Thanks man, well done video.
I love the beef. Just wondering if you cut the other instruments instead of cutting your vocal to get rid of the mud? However, I love this lesson. Keep it up cause it really helps us.
Love your tutorials from iran! 😻🙏
gr8 vid..btw u r a good singer
Ah, thank you :) this was very helpful and insightful. It also explains why some of my vocal mixing attempts came out the way they did 🤧 again, thank you for this insightful video!!
Amazing video!! Thanks!!!
I wish I had you as my mentor when I went to music school! Thanks for being here Joe! Truly blessed!🙏😭👌🔥
Great video! Very informative
well done
Amazing tutorial❤
@joe gilder when I compare the sound of the 50ies, 60ies, 70ies, 80ies, 90ies, and post 2000, then they are of course different. Sure due to equipment and technology etc. But the 70ies, man the sound of the 70ies. Fantastic. Like mid 60ies to mid 70ies actually. They feel so glued together without being compressed too much. Even my mother who has no clue about recording asked me once "why is todays music always so loud and has no dynamics?". My mother. Can you imagine that? And I totally agree with her. People tell me that if I want to be able to compete with other mixes that I have to be loud. But I'm not so sure anymore. I want the dynamics more than being loud, and I have the feeling I'm not the only one and maybe there is a trend to mix differently again. What are your thoughts on that?
Great observation. I think it depends on the overall goals. You can do loud without doing TOO loud.
I agree. I grew up in that era and I love dynamics like Janis Joplin. Janis always sounded better live than on records. Dynamics make you feel more emotion. I am so frustrated when people tell me my mix needs more compression. Maybe it needs more work on EQ to reduce competition with other instruments, but too much compression ruins the dynamics and emotion.
@@CherieO thank you so much for that confirmation. I'm not alone. yeah.
Thank you 🙏🙏🔥
Thank you🔥
Thank you Joe
Great videos my friend.
Excellent!!!
i Roll of Upto 80 khz and make a dynamics eq in 200 khz and roll off above 19000 khz😢😢😢I sweep to find some disturbing frequncy and without being confident i do surgical eq😢😢😢😢I usually sing on a Piano 2 track....Can u Plz Say what frequency Should i look into
you the best man
Nice perspective