Fishman Fluence Modern Pickup Shootout!
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2018
- Today we shootout the bridge pickups of the Fishman Fluence Modern line: The Alnico, Ceramic and Killswitch Engage pickups!
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Lmao
I didn't even know a Killswitch Engage set existed.
Yeah, they've been out for awhile.
Diggin the KSE tbh.
Ok
fuckin' bakerXdickhead wassup boi
Fancy seeing you here, I used to watch your vids all the time.
I haven’t listened to killswitch since I was a young teen, but I just picked up a set of their pickups, can’t wait to get them installed
didnt notice a big difference on my laptop speakers, but its not what i tune in for . i love all the cool gear and FAQ's. Thanks for keeping this fun and informative.
I like the sound of the Killswitch Engage pickups. They lack some low end, but they're bass player makes up for that!
I just had my killswitch engage pickups installed yesterday and I’m very impressed on the tone that my guitar has now verse what it used to have. My guitar is the schectar reaper 6 and these pickups definitely are a game changer.
the KSE set sounds like it really spices up the midrange for pick attack and those trebly mechanical chugs
I switched out my Duncan Blackouts for Fishman Fluence Moderns and they slay in comparison!
Everytime I see your videos now, I get camera envy. I love the new camera man! Keep up the good work and good luck on tour!
KSE pickups sounds so good!
Lucas LeCompte yeah, sounds chunky.
you look like kmac with a beard
Ceramic kills the mix I am super impressed holy cow I can’t stop replaying it hahah
In this case, I think the KSE ones would fit my sound best, but I liked all of them. Wish you had tossed the Devin Townsend ones in there for good measure. Great stuff.
I hear what you are saying about the killswitch engage pickups being lower output but they have a nice growl or roar to them
Would love to hear the Devin or Marrow sets. The KSE set sounds interesting to me.
Love the Ghost shirt.
The KSE set is awesome for detuning, or with a dark amp like a PRS Archon
I bought the Fishman KSE nearly one year ago for my Vigier Excalibur ( maple neck ). Only playing with the ceramic inbridge, It was just ok for me but the full open chords were not ok and i had less sustain than my previous TB5 pickup. I just switched to the Alnico KSE in bridge, and this sounds amazing ! Way more sustain , more note definition on my low C ( drop C Tuning ) and the chords sounds perfect, the feeling is so great, you cant go wrong with this pickup. In this video its hard to hear the difference, you have to test it in real tube amp, there is a noticable difference
The ceramic sounded better to me by far. Sound exploded from the speakers. More clarity. Keep those and boost the lows on your amp. Or take the presence down if you want a more rounded top end.
Hi mate. I just got a rockverb mk iii.. Could you please do a vid of you getting some different tones with a fuzz pedal in front? I love everything about the amp, and havent used my pedal board at all since getting it, until last night - and struggled to get the tones i wanted with a fuzz in front. cheers!
The ltd Brian "Head" Welch guitar I just ordered comes with the alnico version in the neck and the ceramic in the bridge. I cant wait to get it Friday!
Hey man I know it’s been a long time since you left this comment. But I ordered the sh 7et a few weeks ago, it’s not in stock at the moment. But were you or are you still happy with it? I’m real excited to get mine, but I was just wondering how you liked it. 🤘🏻
@@failuretocommunicate4976 I still use mine every day man! Its AMAZING. Congrats on getting one :D
@@Arthemesia that’s killer man, I’m glad to hear that. And thanks, lol waiting for it sucks but it’ll be worth it. Thanks man for reply, an take it easy.
I'd like to see a comparison that includes every one of Fishman's metal-related models. There are so many at this point.
You did do a video about them! Lol im not suprised you didn't remember. So glad i bought this set!
In this comparison, it's the same as I find with Seymour Duncan pickups. I much prefer Ceramic for metal tone, and Alnico for clean tone. The Killswitch IMO was the least good in both DI and Distorted. I don't really like the amp sound though, so it made judging the sound a bit more difficult. The Ken Suzi demo of the Fluence Modern is a selling point!
Is it weird that hearing the DI tracks for the Killswitch pickups made me happy? Would love to have a set of those
in the mix, i liked the ceramic the most, but when listening to the raw tracks i liked the alnico way more that the other two. the killswitch engage pickups seemed a bit lackluster in both tests when compared to the others
I dig the modern ceramic 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
From what I heard. I thought the killswitch set was a little tighter on the low and high end. Then you played the di track and that really sounded like a tight frequency range. Later i will listen through monitors.
Hey Fluff, did you need to order the longer pots for the les pauls you own or do the stock ones fit?
cheers man
Hey man!!! Great video!!! I need you a tech support. I have a Classic Gibson Les Paul. Did you recommend me the: Fishman Modern Humbuckers?? My tune is: B
I dont really know how to listen to the subtle changes, but glad you like the Alnicos
thanks for DIs Fluff ;-) life saver
Gotta say the modern ceramic sounded great to my ear. Been researching a lot into these so maybe one day ill try them out. Hard for me to ditch the Seymour Duncan blackouts though hahah
Blackouts fuckin' kill
Don’t ditch, combine. You got 2 pickup slots don’t you?
Would love to hear the Willie Adler set... you know, for science.
What pickup are you using in the next position ? Same model ? Set? I’m looking for similar tone with good bottom and Scoop on the mid, for the next I’d prefer a creamy les Paul / PRs sound but with a bit more output ...ant suggestions? Trying out a bunch isn’t an option as I’m having a guitar built overseas and have one shot to get it right 😳😳😳
Thanks. What about Devin's set?👌🏻
what of both got more clarity with distorded chords and cleans better with rolled down volume pot?
Dude thank this was so informative and fun to watch
More time at the gym LGA
But we like the modern in the new Axion series ...thanks
Are you going to a review of the classic set?
I watching this using bayerdynamic dt 770- pro headphones and the differences between these pickups is hardly noticeable.
the alnico is slightly lower output and less sparkly, but the KSE pickup sounds almost exactly like the Ceramic one
I agree and I'm using the same headphones
Do I can swap them with EMGs with the same wiring?
I’d like to know how each of those sound clean and split.....
Not being rude or anything but you said you was having "Clean" issues on your bridge having a bit too much high end. The huge problem with this video was I NEVER heard this problem because you never played it clean. But hope this smoothed out the sound for ya.
4:22. All farts to me, though.
hahaha well said, I was just thinking the same thing...
Understandable complaint, but I just watched some other videos and was thinking the same thing.
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The killswitch sounds so good and brutal
The difference was so slight if even noticeable I would pick all 3 lol It would come to a matter of which one i caught on sale.
Its hard to judge watching on youtube. You can get an idea but alot of the nuance you cant get over youtube because if the compression and what not. Ive noticed all the fishmans ive played sound good. I really like the Devin Townsend fluence alot.
Maybe put the Killswitch neck p/u in the bridge? I'm thinking of splitting the set into two 1 p/u guitars.
No Devin Townsend pickups?
Was really hoping they'd be in this comparison.
Same, all three of these sounded far too similar.
same
@Tesco home brand pork sausage elitist I just put these in my prs dustie waring and i have to say the devin townsend set is the best set of pickups ive ever had. its true what you say as far as the 'standard' sounds, his main humbucker is close to the fluence modern which is just fine, but when you use the push pull knobs, you can create all kinds of voices with it, (single coil, etc) its pretty amazing. the straight up sound is insane, its active pickup power with a little of that mushy warmth but at the same time its tone for days, open sounding for a pickup so powerful. im blown away, before this the emg 57 was my fav, but the fishmans annihilate it in my humble opinion. GREAT sounding pickups for a heavy guitar player
Based solely on RUclips clips, I think that the Fishman Fluence Classic set might be what you want tone-wise.
The Killswitch set sounds ace
Can you install these in any guitar ? What about guitars with pickups rings ??? I have a Ltd I wanted to install but it has emg pickups abs and rings ???
Kinda wanna see the Devins in this mix too!
What's involved with swapping Fluences on a guitar already loaded with Fluences? Is it a quick change situation or soldering required?
@@yeboyi28 It's cool that you're aware of the coil-tap/single coil option of the Fluence Modern/Classic. I literally only found out a few days ago when looking at the wiring diagrams. Interesting that the single coil option is not really advertised by Fishman and guitars that use the Moderns seem to not be setup for coil-tap - as opposed to the voice switching that is prominently promoted and setup on guitars with those pickups.
I'm drawn to the Javier Reyes signature myself as they have very distinctive voices and the coil-tap is part of the artist's preferred setup and has its own voice - 'voice 3'. It seems like they can be setup to provide a huge amount of options - the coil used for the coil-tap can be chosen, individually for each pickup if desired. So if someone was happy to have more controls on the guitar (knobs / mini-switches etc.) it would seem possible to have voice 1/voice2/voice 3 inner single coil/voice 3 outer single coil selectable individually for each pickup. Combined with a 3-way switch and possibly even separate volumes for each pickup, could do some interesting things like being able to choose both inner coils, or the bridge humbucker in more aggressive active voice blended with outer single coil of the neck pickup.
I'm planning on getting a 7 string for my next guitar - looking at the Schecter Hellraiser. Already has EMGs stock so having not played EMGs before I'll see how I get on with them, and then decide if i want to change to the Fluence. The Hellraiser already has separate volume knobs for each pickup that are both push-pull so I was thinking of using those for the voice 1/2 switch. But I'd want to add an overall master volume knob - and make that push-pull to activate bridge pickup at maximum volume. I read Guthrie Govan had a switch that did this on his signature Suhr - would be quite handy to be able to quickly switch to this regardless of what has been chosen with the other controls. Then I'd add two 3-way mini switches that would control the single coil voice for each pickup: off/coil-tap inner coil/coil tap outer coil (I'm aware that would override any voice1/voice 2 humbucking selection). Finally would keep the 3 way switch for bridge/neck/both. The Hellraiser also has a tone knob that I'd keep stock - unless I found the high frequency tilt option useful in which case push-pull on the tone knob could activate that. Would have to check out some demos of the high frequency tilt first. I think all of this would give me a huge amount of creative control on the guitar itself. Just wonder if that would be a very complex wiring setup to implement - would possibly need a guitar electrical expert to handle the installation. I can follow some electronics diagrams and terminology myself but I don't understand a number of aspects of even the artist's preferred wiring scheme and my setup idea sounds even more complex.
I love killswitch engage, so I’m biased! Haha!
Not a fan of the Fishmans but I think they're better than other actives. Suhr, Bare Knuckle and even those inexpensive Guitar Fetish Power Rails are RAD! Great demo still!
I found used fishman fluence HSH in the market.
But my guitar body is in HSS cavity.
Can I use it like this :
H fishman
S(mid) dmz virtual paf
S(neck) fishman
?
Really need help.
Didn't think I could be less impressed with Fishman Pickups till I heard the KSE set...
I love fisherman. Ive been playing EMGs, BUT I have been looking into some fisherman pickups. The killswitch engage ones before hearing them I knew weren't gonna have as much of a low end bass sound to them, because killswitch is more trebs and mids to hit a more harmonic sound, especially with leads.
Brendon Smith fishermen are pretty awesome
Fisherman has some great products, for sure.
Ryan Loiselle innovators they are, fisherman.
This thread has really hooked me.
Zachary Paddock dilly dilly
the killswitch set wins hands down on the driven sound. The problem lies with the orange amp itself. The clean channel is what it is and it seems youve ended up sacrificing your drive sound for a better clean sound without bothering to go to a different amp. just my 2 cents
You ever give the hf tilt function a shot?
Ah, bummer. I haven't tried it much either for same reason. Using an alligator clip to ground that lead is not very quick for A/B comparing.
Ryan Bruce The HF tilt option can be grounded to any ground to activate it and have it in always on mode. Most people who use it including me would say it warms up your tone. Honestly I keep going back and forth cause I literally think if I could get right in between having it grounded ( on ) and having it off then it would be perfect. Not too warm not to hi fi. But from what I've seen on the forums most people like me prefer it always on for a warmer tone. I'm using the Stephen Carpenter set that I installed into his signature model that was a little cheaper without the fluence pups included the sc-207. Overall I'm happy with them though. I'm playing through my marshall DSL100HR pretty much 99% of the time now at home and into my micro terror if I'm playing out. The pups do much better in the marshall but it's like comparing watermelons to blueberrys obviously the watermelon sized marshall with 4 power tubes an 4 preamp tubes/gain stages is gonna sound better then a micro terror with one 12ax7 lol. But the micro terror holds its own with these pups more so than you'd think.
Yo fluff! How are you. I finally have a question. I have just started a serious band and I am overall a metal player, but for this band we will be playing popular music to have some gigs. I have a line 6 and a 150 Ibanez guitar, and feel I really need to upgrade haha. What do you think I should get or try?
150 dollar*
The alnico seems to sit further down in the mix, if that makes sense. To my ears it gets a little lost. The ceramic and Killswitch Engage pups seemed to be more distinctive. I have two sets of the Modern Humbuckers (ceramic bridge/alnico neck) and I really like them, but I'm not playing in a band environment. I also have a Devin Townsend set and I think you should give them a try as well. They're ceramic, but have a distinct quality.
He has a demo with just the DT pickups and said in that video he'd ordered another set. But he has since switched them out apparently.
I think he actually wants to sit further back in the mix with the band.
Tell us more about how you like them
Prefered the killswitch engage
Muy buen video....k guitar es?
Can somebody tell me what kind of guitar is this?
If I were to go the path of the modern (would either go the Keith Merrow or devin Townsend set), I'd go ceramic in the Bridge position and alnico in the neck,
Do you use the more classic sounding voice?( the not active voice) would've liked to hear those 🙂
Missed opportunity to hear the KSE single coil mode in action.
I like the ceramic then the kill switch engage personally
I just bought an LTD TE-201 that I’m modding out. It has only 1 humbucker and a 2 way push pull pot. I am new to active pickups. My question for you or anyone in the comment section here is if I should purchase the ceramic or the alnico? I just want a great all arounder considering the configuration I have. Whichever one is more clear is the one I want anything else I can cut and boost on my helix.
We always recorded DI as well as a live amp when we did my bands EP. It's so funny how castrated the DI signal sounds for palm muting and metal riffs haha
I have hissing on neck pick up, is that normal??
ola demo'ed the peavey invective , was waiting on your demo. think about it.
I know I'm late to the party but I wonder how hard was it to upgrade the guitar? If I understood it correctly, the pickups are active/passive at the same time? I'd like to know how much effort it was to upgrade the guitar as I'm having an eye on those pickups. Are there any other pickups you'd recommend? I'm more of a punk/HC guy but tend to shred as extreme as I can and lean towards metal/nu metal sound wise but like to stay versatile for reasons. Just kidding but having a good clean tone here n there is always nice. BTW I left a sub. \m/
its an active pickup that has a mode where it tries to sound like a passive one, you just flip a switch
Only on my phone but they all sound the same to me. I had to check that this was not posted on April 1st lol.
Anyone get alot of feedback with these pickups?
The KSE and Modern Ceramic sound very similar to my ears.
If I remember right they are very close. I think Ken said the KSE set has a touch more mids & low end rolloff
lol thats what i did long time. the fluence Alnico bridge position rules!
daaamn finally!!!
Modern ceramic!
Tosin abasi Sig pickups please?
Fluff, dude. Would you be willing to try one of my pedals and give me some feedback if I send you one? You don't need to do a video review.
Also, I hail from South Africa. The community here is small. I'd value your opinion
I'm planning on getting new pick-ups for my guitar and these Fishman's are definately on my radar. I could use some advice. I play in a progrock/metal band with some djenty stuff (in drop C tuning) and I also play all the ambient stuff on top of it (since I have the most effect pedals and I find it easier to combine with vocals). Would the Ceramics be any good for that top end stuff? Or would you (or anyone) advise some other pick-ups as well? Like, Bareknuckles, Seymore Duncans, EMG's etc. I currently have the EMG Hetfield's in my guitar and I'm not too fond of them. :)
If you're ever in a situation where you want good cleans(particularly single coil sound) go for KSE, Tosin, Devin, Open Core Classics or Keith Merrow sets. Every pickup has a higher and lower output humbucker voicing with differing levels of compression and EQ as well as a single coil voicing.
For what it's worth the KSE, Tosin and Devin sets have "active" voicings based on the EMG 81. Mind you plenty of EMG 81 "haters" have claimed to love those pickups. The Open Core Classics sound like a refined JB and the Merrow set sounds like a refined Nazgul.
WhT kind of guitar do you have the Het set in? What do you like about them?
WhT kind of guitar do you have the Het set in? What do you like about them?
What kind of guitar do you have ?
beard's lookin' good.
Wow, those KSE pups really sound like.. well.. KSE.
No Devin Townsend or Keith Merrow sets?
Alnico sounds rounder.
Ceramic has more top-end cut.
Killswitch is tighter
Bad ass guitars What is is?
Alnico seemed to get lost in the mix a bit un my opinion
I love that the guitarist for unearth is your rep for fishman
I just bought an esp off him and he sent me a brand new set of fishman moderns to throw in for free, great guy to deal with
@@Erock09291 that’s fuckin’ cool
I decided to do the Killswitch alnico neck and modern alnico bridge.
Exactly the video I needed to push me to replace the Pickups on my ESP EC-401 for Fishman Moderns.
Yeah I like the Alnico best. It’s present and clear yet not abrasive.
distorted, I couldn't hear any difference. Clean, it was obvious/ Good review :) . For me then, it would be Ceramic for my explorer, and alnico for my superstrat with a floyd.
Active Pickups seem to fix a lot of the finicky-ness of passive pickups while adding some versatility, but I’ve only ever seen people play full-on Death Metal with them. Are Active pickups also good for Blues or Rock genres?
The band Down has a guitar player using a 81/85 EMG set and it sounds very buttery.. I personally would suggest trying a EMG 60 in the neck and you can get those classic blues tones.
@@madiomega13 Thank you for that info. I was actually looking at these Fishman Modern pickups, as the 3 different “voice” options would give me a lot of versatility in my style.
@@jaycorbin5361 go for them, I have them in my ESP V and they rule
@@madiomega13 Thank you for the info! 👍
The DI tracks sound almost the same.
sound very similar.
Alnico all the way!
You can read my mind
Exactly what i wanted
Agreed on the Alnico. The Killswitch was really weak! Interesting stuff :D
Hey can you send me the leftovers?😛👍 I really need one for my jackson rhoads minion. Thanks 👍😊