I am 6 foot 250lbs and I purchased an Ecotric Fat tire bike with a 500 watt 36 volt motor. I commute 3 miles each way. I had the cable fail on the S900 lcd because they bundled the harness too short so it would create tension when making turns. I started getting Error 30. The company covered it under warranty and I was able to baby the bike back home and repair the cable temporarily until the replacement part showed up. For about 900.00 USD delivered through Amazon. I could not be happier. 18 mph throttle only and 20 mph using pedal assist level 5 in 7th gear. Thanks
I'm looking in that price range. I'm 210 pounds and I'll be commuting about 26 miles round trip to work. If you think the customer service is good I may buy one.
GhostCubic it took me 10 days to get the replacement part but tech support returned my call right away. But 26 miles round trip might require a second battery or bring your charger to work and recharge will take about 3 to 4 hours. Good luck
Even though I have just made my purchase decision and bought my first e-bike after extensive research, I really enjoyed your video. There is always more to learn, and I appreciate your opinions and knowledge. A series of such videos would be a great idea.
I really appreciated you talking about the motorcycles for a minute. I don't want to get snookered by overseas sellers, but I would like to get into a bike that can reach highway speeds, at least for a short time. I haven't found anything in my kind of budget, so I love the advice.
Supporting the idea of a series. I am just beginning to formulate the idea that an e-bike is a viable solution to my desire to rid myself of a second auto in the family, but I’m not far enough along in my research to know the right questions to ask. I’m going to avail myself of your back catalogue, but I think hearing the specific questions of others from a variety of viewpoints and your corresponding answers will be very useful.
I watched a nightmare electric motorcycle order from a guy in Fresno, California. The extra charges that he had to pay were outrageous and the bike had nowhere near the power that it was supposed to have had. Once your are in so deep, you have to keep getting deeper and deeper to try to get the performance that you were promised.
I learned very quickly many electric: bike, moped, scooter companies, including ones here in USA post and advertise misleading specs. For example: listing that an e-bike has 750W motor when actually it's a 350W motor that can produce peak output of 750W. I feel sorry for the Inja guy. It must be a very helpless feeling. I'll do a search to see if I find the vid and watch it. Thanks for sharing.
I think you should continue. I subscribed based on the advice you gave others. I retired almost 4 years ago. I spent nearly all of that time sitting on my rear. I decided I needed a physical fitness program. I have ridden a mountain bike most of my life. I haven't ridden in 4 years. Almost two months ago I started walking around the yard. We've got a pretty good sized yard. I'm up to two miles a day. I also got an under desk exercycle which I have been riding daily for about 30 minutes. I'm about to tear the exercycle up. I've been hitting 128rpms. I decided I needed an ebike. I researched for nearly a month. For an ebike I wanted one that was fun and resonably powerful. I chose the ECOTRIC 500W Electric Bicycle 20” Fat Tire Alloy Frame 36V/12.5AH Lithium Battery Ebike Rear Motor LED Display. They're saying I should hit 20mph on the flat. I'm a heavy rider and I think I'm going to get somewhere between 15 and 17mph with just throttle. We both know I'm going to peddle. My question is should I buy a spare battery and carry it for longer trips? The bike does weigh 60lbs.
I wish this video was twice as long, maybe consider a second edition of this video since its incredibly helpful and very well received by the audience.
Thanks, I was in the process of ordering a e kit for my wife and a tow seat for our 4 year old son, we live in a small town , east Rochester new York and they love traveling to loc library for puppet hour and feeding the ducks and I thought a ebike would be a fun way for them to explore my home town. Thanks for all the good video's and tips. From power? To wieght, price ' DIY batteries ' can't wait for my kit to come . Have a great day
I have the entry level Swagtron without pedals that was fine in campgrounds with smooth roads. I would not recommend it on gravel. I am young at heart but almost in mid 80’s. I would like to get the lightest weight bike that is easy to pedal but can be taken on streets as well as not so perfect trails. I would prefer a step through bike. Don’t want the cheapest, but something I can handle. It has to be put in a cargo trailer when traveling but doesn’t have to fold.
I would have liked you to include 1) person's weight to speed (maybe 2 weight ranges 150-200 lbs & 200-250lbs, or 175-225lbs &225-275lbs). I feel that would cover most people. 2) how they take different grades (I live in the mountains)
12:11 Yes...that's how they get us with the shipping. The shipping is often 3 times the listed price of them item. With some items though even with the crazy shipping markup is still way cheaper than purchasing from dealer in USA. 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
We’re new to ebikes & full time RVERS later this year. I like the Aventon 350 but everything I’ve seen suggests 500 amps. Would like American made & put together when purchased. Also we will carry these bikes on the back of our coach on a bike rack. We want too attach our cell phones too the back with the helmets that have a microphone & able too hear each other or listen too music. Apprx cost on Amazon $129.00. Definitely want mountain bike tires so that we can ride on beaches, Nat’l park trails, roads, in these large RV parks. HELP what kind of bikes should we purchase? Seats are very important. We live in NE TX & apprx 1 hr west of Shreveport, LA, & would like too see these bikes & ride them. We’re apprx 4 hrs N of Houston & 4 hrs E of Dallas. Enjoyed you & your suggestions. Thank you. Trish Peterie
I found your channel through one of your battery build videos but I just watched this one and it is obviously aimed specifically at a US audience. Some of the bikes in this video would not be road legal in many countries. In the European Union an ebike must have pedals that propel it and an electric motor of no more than 250 watts that does not provide assistance at over 25 km/h. There appears to be very little enforcement (at least here in the UK) but it is worth bearing in mind. In the US does the law vary by State?
Probably but how many Cops know how to check your watts???? As long as you are not coasting along at 40 mph, they won't even look at you. It's all about being reasonable.......And pedaling too.
@@Mytyweav True, In NYC there's been a lot of talk about Ebikes lately and laws that would lessen the fines on delivery workers with Ebikes. It's less about the watts and more about the speed: Things like not going above 20 without a helmet or staying off larger roads as opposed to bike trails or lanes (which seems logical. Why would you ride a 20 mph bike on roads with cars moving 35 or more?) I had been considering the Jetson Bolt mentioned in this video, but I'd rather have some thing with pedals rather than the pegs, partly for comfort, but also so it doesnt pull the attention of a cop to look closer at it and get an idea about writing a ticket.
@@TheRealAlpha2 Your Thought Process is right on target. Ya gotta look like yer pedaling....Hahahahaha... And you can't be passing vehicles while you're enjoying your ride.. I tend to ride thinking about Range so I know I can make it back home without having to stop at my hangar to charge. I have NOT been skunked yet! Have Fun..... There are plenty of choices and I hope you get one that makes you smile. These things can be soooo much fun.
@@Mytyweav Thanks! I've had some money put aside for a bit and I'm bouncing between several choices trying to decide which I want more, it's driving me nuts.
@@TheRealAlpha2 Hahahahaha... I DO KNOW that feeling..... Push the budget if you can. It will be so worth it when you finally get to climb on and discover what you have. I have to admit, I accidentally did quite a few things right. The first time I got to climb on the bike and "feel" that machine come to life, I was so Hooked! Keep us posted! Fly Weav at gee mail dot com no spaces in Flyweav
Liked this style of "Video FAQ", and hopefully it'll save you some time! it's very generous of you to answer so many of these questions on email. Having covered the main contact email for a makerspace (so tons of odd questions), I can only imagine how much work that is! You rock.
How do you feel about using a 1500w motor where the controller limits the amps and makes it a 750w motor? I'm figuring that the wiring would be heavier duty making this better for large (huge) people...like me.
Since I was the first fat guy in the video, I'd say look at the Bafang Ultra mid drives, I hear they're monsters. If you want, however, hit me up in a week, my bike is supposed to be here Monday. I'll send you a picture of the hill and feedback on how well it hauls 260lbs. :)
My mom loves her little bike. She's pretty short, so this thing fits her perfectly. I bought her one of the 20in folders and she could barely ride that. She's slowly grown in on it though.
I'm a truck driver and want to be able to get away from truck stops once in a while. I'm about 250lb and want something I can fold up and keep in the cab. I'm not sure if I should try to convert the folding bike I rebuilt, or just buy something cheap from China. I'm on a tight budget so I'm not sure if it's smarter to buy parts over time to build or finance a whole bike.
a little bit off subject, regarding batteries, early days you were using Hot Glue to assemble Battery packs, latterly you seem to prefer to use preformed grids for both welded and weldless packs, I may have missed a Video along the way but am interested to know your thoughts.
Thank you for the advice. But I wonder about that first suggestion you had regarding the RadCity 750w direct drive being a better choice than the 500w geared motor bikes mentioned. The RadCity's direct drive motor doesn't seem to have the torque that the other two bikes with the geared hub motors. Seems like a geared hub motor will do better on that hill than the direct drive?
You're right I didn't go into a lot of detail there, but the direct drive motor is beefier, can provide more power for longer, handles heat build up better and will handle sustained hills better. The reduced torque will be compensated by the pedaling of the rider, in my opinion, since the question stated that he would be riding in pedal assist.
Wife and I used to ride road bikes until she had some health issues. My preference is my Caad 10 but my work is a 6 am start and I am NOT a morning person and ended up wussing out on the hill Micah mentioned. I've been in good shape at several points in my life, the motor is kind of a "no excuses" thing. :) I plan to pedal a lot, this hill just REALLY sucks. My commute is literally uphill to the center, and highest point, from either direction. Ideally, once I get in shape I'd like to go back to unassisted or get something to ditch a car. Really wanted a drop bar mid drive bike but I want to actually use the bike before I spend car money ($3-5k that's mechanic car money. Lol)
@@rob2257 You can do it good sir. I also need to get back into shape and my e-bike is helping to get me there. I have a RadCity, but have wondered if maybe a geared hub motor, or even a mid-drive with more torque would be a better choice. I have lots of hills/mountains where I am, and it can be a struggle.
I bought a SwagCycle pro and have had nothing but issues with it. Out the box the motor didn’t work. Had it repaired at my cost and now it won’t charge. The item was new and not refurbished.
I'm surprised that no one asked about belt drive bikes. They are heavier and more expensive initially but don't require chain maintenance for a very long time. I currently ride a Juiced Cross Current X and wouldn't trade unless it was for belt drive.
I have been looking for some time for an ebike that i (a big man) can use to get around in an urban environment with hills. I have come to the conclusion that it will be cheaper to get a used car.
Can you answer a question about pedal assist? Once you pedal to start the motor, do you have to continue to pedal or else the motor shuts off or can the just the throttle be used? If just the throttle can be used, does the motor shut off each time you release the throttle and then you have to pedal again to start the motor?
I liked this video, very helpful honest feedback. I built a converted electric motorcycle as a learning experience and am now interested in getting a motor/ controller combo that I could use to try and make a poor man's version of a Twike or EvoVelo as a home built enclosed 3 wheeler.
I liked the comparison video for electric motorcycles you did before so I was thinking that a similar comparison video between different DIY e-bike kits(bafang, tongsheng etc.) or factory e-bikes with most common e-motor providers(Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano etc.) would be interesting and useful as well.
Great video. Really helpful advice for people looking to get onto an e-bike. I liked the style of the video a lot. Simple, down to earth, non-biased opinions. Great job!
What's the cheapest power bike? I need to carry a kid's trailer up hills, but I don't care about fancy brakes, style, comfort, speed etc. I'll never travel more than 10 miles (including return) at a time. I just want help getting up hills without it overheating and that is all. Thanks.
Hi Micah have you considered making you diy ebike book a kindle book , it would be good for overseas people like me , postage is the same price as book to oz
I see all the comments about getting a higher powered e-bike but no mention about how most states have licensing requirements about e-bike going over 20mph.
I enjoy this video, I think it would be a good series to continue for those of us who are wanting to buy, but not knowing how much is to much. I willing to pay a fair price and for a good e bike. But I don’t know what is good vs a waste of money
No one should buy an ebike, they should build one. It's super easy and you can get twice the range, twice the power, better everything, for less than half the price. Any cheap ebike will just be another piece of junk in your garage, and an expensive one is just a ripoff. Well, any prebuilt ebike is a ripoff. I spent 1800 including a nice new bike and can go 50 miles hauling ass (25-30mph) or 70 miles+ taking it easy. Top speed around 32-35, depending on conditions. If I spent another couple hundred on a more powerful motor I'd be ripping over 40mph, way too fast on a bicycle...
@@Mytyweav I bought a Giant Talon 3 29er bike (this was kindof a mistake, I was told it was a 68mm bottom bracket, when it was actually a 73, not a huge deal but pushed the chain line out, as well as not allowing me to put the secondary lock ring on, so I have to make sure it's tight once in a while, or before trail riding). Also, a disadvantage of the large 29er bike is that I have to lean over farther to take a tight fast turn, a little unnerving. I used the Bafang BBS02 mid drive kit from Luna Cycle, and the "52" volt 27.9 amp hour high energy triangle battery pack (1400 watt hours) from Em3ev, with 58.8volt charger with a switch to choose between 90 or 100 percent charge, and the triangle battery bag. I had to attach a different connector to the battery wires to mate with the bafang system. The battery indicator doesn't read quite right, I think due to slightly higher voltage battery. I ended up buying an aftermarket chain ring later because the stock bafang one derails too easy when on rough terrain. The mileage numbers were real numbers with throttle only, not the BS figures the ebike and/or battery manufacturers give you. BUT, this was on a long smooth bike path with minimal stopping and starting and minimal elevation differential. Around town probably more like 40-45 miles if I'm riding briskly. I've never really taken it easy around town so can't tell you exactly what I would get, but definitely well over 50 miles if I were to accelerate modestly and keep it between 15-20mph. If I were to pedal? Well, probably 100+ miles with fairly easy pedaling. I don't think most people need a battery that big, I just wanted to be sure I can ride out to the mountains around here to go for hikes, and not worry about range, and so I don't have to charge it often. Sorry for the long winded reply, hope it was helpful.
@@dustman96 Wow! Great information! I know that Triangle pack... It's pretty big. YOU have RANGE and power. Too bad you had bad info on the Bottom Bracket width. I know Bafang makes different units for different bottom brackets. My KHS 6500 has the Bafang BBSHD and it's unreal strong and powerful. I have no problem riding into town and back to my place which is very Hilly and the mileage to and from is always over 30 miles. I do pedal quite a bit but the Bafang makes it so nice to climb these hills, some of them pretty steep. I do keep an extra charger at the airport in my hangar just in case I might want to run a bunch of errands once I'm in town. Never a problem getting back home. I rarely charge at the hangar. Again, Great info so people can see what really works! I LOVE knowing I can easily Climb any hill that comes my way.......
@@Mytyweav I've always wondered what the BBSHD is like. The BBS02 has enough power for me, but it would be cool to get the HD and detune it a little bit so I could just leave the throttle pegged for long periods of time with no worries.
I'm dying to get a bike to help me get exercise. I've had 3 back surgeries...I'm looking at the 20in fat tire. Can anyone suggest a good bike. Also is 20in a good size for me. I am 52 and female. This video is a good start for me to begin
If I were you I would look at a recumbent bike or trike. They're expensive to buy new, but much more affordable used. If I had 3 back surgeries, I would not have bought my 20 in fat tire bike, nor my 26" path bike. There are many "why ride a recumbent" videos on you tube you can watch to get a better idea.
I have been building my own electric bikes and trikes for awhile now and have been using the Aotema hub motor kits. These are the only ones I have found that give a 5 year guarantee on the motor. Have you ever checked these out?
hi Micah, another good, informative video. I mostly made contact to be sure you and yours are staying safe and healthy. My eBikes, with packs built from your Vruzend cell holders (shameless plug for you!!! ), are working as well as they were when 1st built (about a year ago). I need to build a 72V pack for the eDrift "Fat Tire Scooter" I just bought, and will use your cell holders once again. That's it. Ride safe and take care of yourself and your family. All the Best. cheers Boots Langley La Mesa, ca PS; have you given up on the little Honda eBike Project? I would love to see any progress you've made on it.
Thanks for the kind words. I’m still working on the Honda. I just need to find the time to finish it after moving recently. I hope you’re doing well, stay safe out there.
This was a great video. You actually answered some of my questions. I own the Jetson Bolt and I agree with you that is more like a scooter with a seat rather than an E- bike. Keep up the wonderful content.
The bolt was suggested to me as a cheaper alternative to the Imotion P1 or P2. Interesting thing about the Bolt is that since it's a rebrand of another vehicle there are people modding them in interesting ways. One that caught my attention was the official company (Dyu) had an upgrade kit adding a magnetic sensor and pedal crank that makes it an actual, albeit minimal, ebike. I considered actually getting the the Bolt and adding at least a crank as a back up for low battery, but then I thought why not just get a slightly more expensive ebike like the Swagtron (ugh, I hate that name though).
I really do like this type of video even though i already chose and have my bike (Lectric XP). I like the way you go over the feature of a bike without bashing what might be considered a fault of a bike. Perhaps you could do a similar video with accessories? I am looking for a quality suspension seat post for my XP that wont break the bank. Things like lights, racks, tire pumps, tools, helmets, and more could be covered.
I have a Satori Animaris suspension seatpost on my converted ebike that I can recommend. Similar to Thudbuster and Suntour but quite a bit less $$ and well made. I've had it for over a year now and my back thanks me every time I ride it :)
I have the Suntour SP12 - it is a really good one, with respect to the cost. Now I do not care about curbs anymore. Better than the ones inside the shaft.
@@ricknoe942 -- I need to verify the length I need for myself and the bike. The Satori Animaris I have only found in a 350mm length while the Suntour has a 400mm option. Also need to factor in my weight as I am 225lbs.
@@tbirdracefan the 350mm (almost 14") length should be enough. I've ridden a Lectric XP and I have long legs. Either one should handle your weight they are both adjustable. The main thing is to make sure you get the right diameter for your bike. I agree with TheStuartstardust, these posts are better than the cheap "pogo stick" models.
I love it. I had one and it was great. Just disappeared from Amazon though which is a shame because most of the China shopping sites (aliexpress, gearbest, etc) don't seem to ship it to the US.
Regarding the governor, I haven't pulled the controller on it so I'm not sure, but many will have a speed limiting wire in the controller, so that's a good place to start the search.
Hey mate, I have 4 bike's, 2 electric and 2 normal, I have a fat bike electric which is fun but not a day to day use, the other one is a rockrider 540 and got conversion kit from ebay.... And biggest battery on the tube (15.4 ah36v)... Bike cost 400 pound kit and battery 400 pound .... Am 135kg and do 32+km/h......I prefer ebay kit... Easy installation and becouse bike is stock easy to repair(battery is generic u can get new or upgrade at any time not like special made for a frame) ... Way much better that a electric made
For the Ride1up 500, (Carla) would ithe frame be low enough to add a Zoom suspension seat post, and/or a good sprung seat such as a Selle Royal Drifter, Cloud-9, or lighter Bikeroo sprung 10" wide class saddles to complement the front suspension fork? I have the Selle on my DIY e-bike and it transforms the bike and the ride experience on e-bike (on ebike, ride is longer in duration, more upright (more rider weight on seat), and bumps are felt more at seat than handlebars, vs reg bike).
Great video. Even though I ride an ebike already, I like knowing what’s out there or what’s new with ebikes. Answering ebike questions will give me an edge.
I have the Aventon Level and it is awesome! Have 100 miles on it and it does not have ugly battery and no one knows it is an ebike! The welding is invisible.
How is it going up hills? How much do u weigh? I'm @ about 225lbs, disabled with back pain. Need to start slow then will work up to pedaling more. Thx for any info!
Great video, Micah. I definitely think you should continue doing these. The information is helpful and like you said can reach a larger audience. It seems you have gotten a lot of support to continue.
Around 250 pounds? Go with AT LEAST 750 watt setup.... I'm using high quality packs with 52 volt nominal, 58 volt at full charge. This makes all the difference in the world.
I got a factory job, I was 180lbs when I started. I'm not too old to sweat and grunt, 34, just too lazy to climb that stupid hill at 5am to get to work. ;) He did recommend a 750 over email too but I had bought the Aventon Level because everyone was selling out and back ordered.
@@rob2257 My biggest recommendation would be to make Cost/Price NOT be the first priority. Fortunately, the price of a very good EV Bicycle has come down quite a bit in the last couple years. Concentrate on what your "Mission" is..... For me, it was getting into town and back over crappy gravel bumpy roads and then having to deal with paved roads but very hilly terrain. At my weight and at age 70, I needed more pedal assist power during the steep climbs. The bike and Batteries I bought really make it all possible and that makes all the difference in the world when it comes time to make the trip. My round trip is usually very close to 30 miles... I was VERY skeptical in the beginning but I can honestly say I am so much more than impressed and satisfied with what I did. Buy a good bike with a good power system. You will never be sorry you did. Trying to get something that might be Better than real for a price that is unbelievable will only provide undesirable results more often than not.... Go For It!
@@Mytyweav I'm definitely not above upgrading, and expect I'll need to, I just want to make sure I consistently make it out of bed and on a bike at 5 a.m. before buy something super expensive . . . I hate mornings with a passion. I won't be super miffed if I do wear it out in a year or two if I actually use it. I live in town, super good roads, so hills is my only hard part. Bought the Aventon Level, btw, day before Micah replied, if I can wear it out I want a drop bar mid drive roadie or just to be in good enough shape to ride my Caad 10 to work again. :)
@@rob2257 Oh boy, I hear you! I will say my bike with the BBSHD is totally FUN to ride too. I forgot to mention that earlier. Fun, Powerful AND Reliable. That Bafang setup is truly out of this world! I'm thinking if you rode my bike, you would completely understand. BTW, I went to Luna Cycles website earlier tonight just to price out my Motor AND Battery combination. The motor setup was close to $850 and the 13.5 Amp hour 52Volt pack was over $550! I have used my batteries a Lot in the last two years and they only seem to get better or stay the same. Those Panasonic Cells are a HUGE difference in results. I'm thinking just the "Fun Factor" alone would make it all worthwhile. BTW, my BBSHD is set up for 1500 watts. Wish you lived close to me, I'd let you have a very good demo/experience ride. Good Luck Rob! Weav
I like to ride trails on the weekend and my husband has a fat tire bike, so being blue to handle trails with confidence is very important to me. But, I also commute during the week. I think I want to go with an emtb, but I really need fenders and a rear rack. Any ideas???
would you suggest a BBS02B kit for a first ebiker? I have a 26" Canadian Garneau Hybrid that I love, and seems to be a perfect fit for mid drive,(68mm bottom bracket) wanted to use it as the host for Bafang
I got one for my first go, very happy with it, although I did change the programming, was way too agressive, didnt feel like you were pedaling. Google , Hacker’s Guide To Programming The BBS02 & BBSHD, scroll down and get the Lectric file for a quick fix. Oh and dont forget to buy a USB programming cable, the rest is in the hackers guide.
@@gloriouspopemantom373 Thanks for the reply, yeah I've heard exactly the same from a few other Bafang owners, seems even the level1 of the pedal assist kicks too much of the power, they said if you move to 9 level assist that would help a bit though, btw, I just ordered a bbs02b as well the programming cable :) I'll try doing the hack and see how it goes once I get it, cheers
@@sohrab6432 True, when looking at the original settings, it started at 55% current at lvl1, Lectric has more of a standard 10%. Lvl 1,2,3 feel great now with 10-20-30%, much more of an assist compared to the unbridled acceleration. Good luck and enjoy.
Are there any ebikes that can be operated by a person who only has one arm? My adult son had a stroke when he was six. He does not have use of his right arm. We wanted to get bikes that we can use on nature trails or parks when we go RVing. Thank you.
I always enjoy your videos! you are the guy I believe in a world of (fake news) where true reporting on products is hard to come by. This was a excellent format keep it up.
i would like advice on making an all wheel drive trike,with a long range,and maybe some upgrades to make it capable on some rougher dirt roads,ie: fat tires or front suspension,also i want to make my own battery with the help of VRUZEND. thanks again for all shows past and future,good luck to you and yours.
My 9 year old and I just got into bike riding... we try to do easy park trails, but the hills are a bit too hard for him. He loves his little mongoose bmx freestyle bike. Is there a conversion kit that would work for him? It would take some finesse, but I'm sure he wouldn't complain too much if I purchased him an ebike, if need be. What do you suggest?
Have you reviewed the green bike 750 next? My wife and I plan to start full time rving next year and we are looking for a good folding bike. We're both about 220 lbs. I just subscribed to your youtube channel.
Hi Great video. I'm looking at buying an e bike here in the UK as i now have trouble with my knee. I can still peddle up hills but because I use my bike for touring it will help me over long distances. On average we would travel 80 to 100 miles a day so I foresee problems as the batteries only cover an average of 20 to 30 miles before they require recharging and with the charging time it would mean sitting in a cafe for half the day. We would also be towing a trailer carrying our camping equipment. So is there anyway we can charge our batteries as we travel. We would also carry a spare if required as well as recharging. Thanks
Great content. I love your Diy battery building videos and these what to buy videos. I had a stroke in 2017 and am considering an ebike with pedal assist and fat tires for options for trails. I would love to hear more. Thanks for your channel. It is informative and helps me know what is out there. Cheers!
Good video. Keep them up. I’d like your opinion on what bikes are available with the Bafang BBSHD and the M620 mid drives. Also, where is the best place to buy to avoid scams and unanticipated costs?
I think I’d like the most power, for a 5 ft senior, with carriers, in lotsa rain, I. Met a fellow who had two Tesla car batteries on a bike he built- , can I buy a cheaper frame and upgrade the batteries? To get more speed, range and power? The RadminiST -2 looks good, heavy and expensive - any thoughts. ?
Impressive looking selection of books there at the end. I had an eBike about 15 years ago but quickly came to dislike it. Maybe now they have come of age but I see there are plenty of deceptive models or prices for sale.
I guess the video is a month old, but let me ask my situation too... Guess weight is a factor, so i am lets say 110kg (that should be probably about 230-240lbs?) Speed needs are in the 40kph + (obviously in throttle only mode) (such speeds should be regular, but if i get used to them they may become, so scratch that XD) to have a throttel only mode a range of more than 20km (preferably 25km) and yes as the guy in the video i have a big uphill part in my daily route. one part of 2km+ straight 8%+. and another one about 1km of 15% hill (good thing is in the morning all this is downhill, but when coming back it is a murder Also like bigger wheels (26" and above) with no city thin tyres... prefer the fatter tyres for their cutioning, and front suspension is really wanted. Main problem comes from the price-budget side. I may be able to go up to 1300euros... (obviously EU). Would love to go higher, but even that is a bit high for me now... (my car costs slightly more, and i want to use it less) I know that with a bigger budget there are many good options but in this budget i havent found many things that could satisfy me... from research i think that a 1.3kw motor should be great and a 1kw should be barely sufficient?? Please Micah or other commenters enlighten me on possible models. Also i have considered making my own e-bike, but not sure on how to choose the motor, lack of pretty much all the needed tools and of a frame has kept me off for the last 2 years that i have been planning that...
Great video 👍. I am 336 lbs. I own Fat Tire mountain bike. I would like a e bike that could get me around on a dirt bike trail. And a 20 mile round trip commute to work. What would you recommend?
I was thinking of running two 350 Watt motors together to a common sprocket driven chain. I know that this will decrease my range by half but will it give me more power for hills?
Hello Micah, I really like this video and I hope you decide to do more. Maybe once or twice a month you can pick out 3-5 purchase scenarios from the most generally applicable 'what should I buy' emails you've received. If so that would be great! Perhaps you could even include some e-motorcycle and DIY build-kit deals, or any other good deals you spot along the way that you think we should check out. Again, thanks for all these videos you've continued doing in addition to your work you do for the Electrek site. ✌️
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It's amazing how many choices have become available since you made this video. Dual battery bikes are available for under 1800 dollars.
I am 6 foot 250lbs and I purchased an Ecotric Fat tire bike with a 500 watt 36 volt motor. I commute 3 miles each way. I had the cable fail on the S900 lcd because they bundled the harness too short so it would create tension when making turns. I started getting Error 30. The company covered it under warranty and I was able to baby the bike back home and repair the cable temporarily until the replacement part showed up. For about 900.00 USD delivered through Amazon. I could not be happier. 18 mph throttle only and 20 mph using pedal assist level 5 in 7th gear. Thanks
I'm looking in that price range. I'm 210 pounds and I'll be commuting about 26 miles round trip to work. If you think the customer service is good I may buy one.
GhostCubic it took me 10 days to get the replacement part but tech support returned my call right away. But 26 miles round trip might require a second battery or bring your charger to work and recharge will take about 3 to 4 hours. Good luck
@@remixread I can definitely charge it at work. Thanks for your input!
If this becomes a series i want him to call it "Different spokes for different folks"
Even though I have just made my purchase decision and bought my first e-bike after extensive research, I really enjoyed your video. There is always more to learn, and I appreciate your opinions and knowledge. A series of such videos would be a great idea.
Window shopping is great in a lock down.
I really appreciated you talking about the motorcycles for a minute. I don't want to get snookered by overseas sellers, but I would like to get into a bike that can reach highway speeds, at least for a short time. I haven't found anything in my kind of budget, so I love the advice.
Supporting the idea of a series. I am just beginning to formulate the idea that an e-bike is a viable solution to my desire to rid myself of a second auto in the family, but I’m not far enough along in my research to know the right questions to ask. I’m going to avail myself of your back catalogue, but I think hearing the specific questions of others from a variety of viewpoints and your corresponding answers will be very useful.
I watched a nightmare electric motorcycle order from a guy in Fresno, California. The extra charges that he had to pay were outrageous and the bike had nowhere near the power that it was supposed to have had. Once your are in so deep, you have to keep getting deeper and deeper to try to get the performance that you were promised.
His name is “The Inja”
I learned very quickly many electric: bike, moped, scooter companies, including ones here in USA post and advertise misleading specs. For example: listing that an e-bike has 750W motor when actually it's a 350W motor that can produce peak output of 750W. I feel sorry for the Inja guy. It must be a very helpless feeling. I'll do a search to see if I find the vid and watch it. Thanks for sharing.
@@mitchellbarnow1709 found it. He's happy with it. The hidden fees is the bummer making the bike actually cost double what he initially paid.
I think you should continue. I subscribed based on the advice you gave others. I retired almost 4 years ago. I spent nearly all of that time sitting on my rear. I decided I needed a physical fitness program. I have ridden a mountain bike most of my life. I haven't ridden in 4 years. Almost two months ago I started walking around the yard. We've got a pretty good sized yard. I'm up to two miles a day. I also got an under desk exercycle which I have been riding daily for about 30 minutes. I'm about to tear the exercycle up. I've been hitting 128rpms. I decided I needed an ebike. I researched for nearly a month. For an ebike I wanted one that was fun and resonably powerful. I chose the ECOTRIC 500W Electric Bicycle 20” Fat Tire Alloy Frame 36V/12.5AH Lithium Battery Ebike Rear Motor LED Display. They're saying I should hit 20mph on the flat. I'm a heavy rider and I think I'm going to get somewhere between 15 and 17mph with just throttle. We both know I'm going to peddle. My question is should I buy a spare battery and carry it for longer trips? The bike does weigh 60lbs.
I wish this video was twice as long, maybe consider a second edition of this video since its incredibly helpful and very well received by the audience.
As a e-bike neophyte I can learn a lot from these videos. Appreciate your approach.
I had a Sonders fold for three years no problems, but that new lectric bike looks good too
If your happy with your toy wait til you ride a big boy ebike!!! And get away from Sondors dude :^(
David Klein , i have a luna cycle too( Ludacris) version 45mph top speed, i was just comparing my fold to the ebike that was featured
Thanks, I was in the process of ordering a e kit for my wife and a tow seat for our 4 year old son, we live in a small town , east Rochester new York and they love traveling to loc library for puppet hour and feeding the ducks and I thought a ebike would be a fun way for them to explore my home town. Thanks for all the good video's and tips. From power? To wieght, price ' DIY batteries ' can't wait for my kit to come . Have a great day
I have the entry level Swagtron without pedals that was fine in campgrounds with smooth roads. I would not recommend it on gravel. I am young at heart but almost in mid 80’s. I would like to get the lightest weight bike that is easy to pedal but can be taken on streets as well as not so perfect trails. I would prefer a step through bike. Don’t want the cheapest, but something I can handle. It has to be put in a cargo trailer when traveling but doesn’t have to fold.
I would have liked you to include 1) person's weight to speed (maybe 2 weight ranges 150-200 lbs & 200-250lbs, or 175-225lbs &225-275lbs). I feel that would cover most people. 2) how they take different grades (I live in the mountains)
I didn't ask Micah about OTHER fat people, I just asked him about me. Lol. And he felt like my question might help others and asked to use it.
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Yes...that's how they get us with the shipping. The shipping is often 3 times the listed price of them item. With some items though even with the crazy shipping markup is still way cheaper than purchasing from dealer in USA.
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For the Chinese motorcycle you might want to go look at the super soco TC max. Think of it as equivalent to a 125cc ice bike.
We’re new to ebikes & full time RVERS later this year. I like the Aventon 350 but everything I’ve seen suggests 500 amps. Would like American made & put together when purchased. Also we will carry these bikes on the back of our coach on a bike rack. We want too attach our cell phones too the back with the helmets that have a microphone & able too hear each other or listen too music. Apprx cost on Amazon $129.00. Definitely want mountain bike tires so that we can ride on beaches, Nat’l park trails, roads, in these large RV parks. HELP what kind of bikes should we purchase? Seats are very important. We live in NE TX & apprx 1 hr west of Shreveport, LA, & would like too see these bikes & ride them. We’re apprx 4 hrs N of Houston & 4 hrs E of Dallas. Enjoyed you & your suggestions. Thank you. Trish Peterie
I found your channel through one of your battery build videos but I just watched this one and it is obviously aimed specifically at a US audience. Some of the bikes in this video would not be road legal in many countries. In the European Union an ebike must have pedals that propel it and an electric motor of no more than 250 watts that does not provide assistance at over 25 km/h. There appears to be very little enforcement (at least here in the UK) but it is worth bearing in mind. In the US does the law vary by State?
Probably but how many Cops know how to check your watts???? As long as you are not coasting along at 40 mph, they won't even look at you. It's all about being reasonable.......And pedaling too.
@@Mytyweav True, In NYC there's been a lot of talk about Ebikes lately and laws that would lessen the fines on delivery workers with Ebikes. It's less about the watts and more about the speed: Things like not going above 20 without a helmet or staying off larger roads as opposed to bike trails or lanes (which seems logical. Why would you ride a 20 mph bike on roads with cars moving 35 or more?) I had been considering the Jetson Bolt mentioned in this video, but I'd rather have some thing with pedals rather than the pegs, partly for comfort, but also so it doesnt pull the attention of a cop to look closer at it and get an idea about writing a ticket.
@@TheRealAlpha2 Your Thought Process is right on target. Ya gotta look like yer pedaling....Hahahahaha... And you can't be passing vehicles while you're enjoying your ride.. I tend to ride thinking about Range so I know I can make it back home without having to stop at my hangar to charge. I have NOT been skunked yet! Have Fun..... There are plenty of choices and I hope you get one that makes you smile. These things can be soooo much fun.
@@Mytyweav Thanks! I've had some money put aside for a bit and I'm bouncing between several choices trying to decide which I want more, it's driving me nuts.
@@TheRealAlpha2 Hahahahaha... I DO KNOW that feeling..... Push the budget if you can. It will be so worth it when you finally get to climb on and discover what you have. I have to admit, I accidentally did quite a few things right. The first time I got to climb on the bike and "feel" that machine come to life, I was so Hooked! Keep us posted! Fly Weav at gee mail dot com no spaces in Flyweav
Liked this style of "Video FAQ", and hopefully it'll save you some time! it's very generous of you to answer so many of these questions on email. Having covered the main contact email for a makerspace (so tons of odd questions), I can only imagine how much work that is! You rock.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You have any "easy to talk to" kind of attitude. I wouldn't feel stupid asking any question.
How do you feel about using a 1500w motor where the controller limits the amps and makes it a 750w motor?
I'm figuring that the wiring would be heavier duty making this better for large (huge) people...like me.
Since I was the first fat guy in the video, I'd say look at the Bafang Ultra mid drives, I hear they're monsters. If you want, however, hit me up in a week, my bike is supposed to be here Monday. I'll send you a picture of the hill and feedback on how well it hauls 260lbs. :)
@@rob2257 any update on your ebike? What did you get?
My mom loves her little bike. She's pretty short, so this thing fits her perfectly. I bought her one of the 20in folders and she could barely ride that. She's slowly grown in on it though.
I'm a truck driver and want to be able to get away from truck stops once in a while. I'm about 250lb and want something I can fold up and keep in the cab. I'm not sure if I should try to convert the folding bike I rebuilt, or just buy something cheap from China. I'm on a tight budget so I'm not sure if it's smarter to buy parts over time to build or finance a whole bike.
I love this format. It would be great to get one of these every couple of weeks! Thanks!
a little bit off subject, regarding batteries, early days you were using Hot Glue to assemble Battery packs, latterly you seem to prefer to use preformed grids for both welded and weldless packs, I may have missed a Video along the way but am interested to know your thoughts.
Thank you for the advice. But I wonder about that first suggestion you had regarding the RadCity 750w direct drive being a better choice than the 500w geared motor bikes mentioned. The RadCity's direct drive motor doesn't seem to have the torque that the other two bikes with the geared hub motors. Seems like a geared hub motor will do better on that hill than the direct drive?
You're right I didn't go into a lot of detail there, but the direct drive motor is beefier, can provide more power for longer, handles heat build up better and will handle sustained hills better. The reduced torque will be compensated by the pedaling of the rider, in my opinion, since the question stated that he would be riding in pedal assist.
@@EbikeSchool Thanks for that follow-up.
Wife and I used to ride road bikes until she had some health issues. My preference is my Caad 10 but my work is a 6 am start and I am NOT a morning person and ended up wussing out on the hill Micah mentioned. I've been in good shape at several points in my life, the motor is kind of a "no excuses" thing. :) I plan to pedal a lot, this hill just REALLY sucks. My commute is literally uphill to the center, and highest point, from either direction. Ideally, once I get in shape I'd like to go back to unassisted or get something to ditch a car. Really wanted a drop bar mid drive bike but I want to actually use the bike before I spend car money ($3-5k that's mechanic car money. Lol)
@@rob2257 You can do it good sir. I also need to get back into shape and my e-bike is helping to get me there. I have a RadCity, but have wondered if maybe a geared hub motor, or even a mid-drive with more torque would be a better choice. I have lots of hills/mountains where I am, and it can be a struggle.
I bought a SwagCycle pro and have had nothing but issues with it. Out the box the motor didn’t work. Had it repaired at my cost and now it won’t charge. The item was new and not refurbished.
I'm surprised that no one asked about belt drive bikes. They are heavier and more expensive initially but don't require chain maintenance for a very long time. I currently ride a Juiced Cross Current X and wouldn't trade unless it was for belt drive.
I have been looking for some time for an ebike that i (a big man) can use to get around in an urban environment with hills. I have come to the conclusion that it will be cheaper to get a used car.
@Big T That bike is 3 times what I paid for my last car. But I do appreciate the input.
Can you answer a question about pedal assist? Once you pedal to start the motor, do you have to continue to pedal or else the motor shuts off or can the just the throttle be used? If just the throttle can be used, does the motor shut off each time you release the throttle and then you have to pedal again to start the motor?
I'm looking at getting ebike kit for around 500 with battery would like it to do 20mph and 20 miles on a full charge
Unreasonable request if you are looking for good components.
Your range is entirely doable but better double that 500$
All your videos are great. Just purchased my Lectric XP 4/25/20. Thanks for helping me decide which bike.
I liked this video, very helpful honest feedback.
I built a converted electric motorcycle as a learning experience and am now interested in getting a motor/ controller combo that I could use to try and make a poor man's version of a Twike or EvoVelo as a home built enclosed 3 wheeler.
I liked the comparison video for electric motorcycles you did before so I was thinking that a similar comparison video between different DIY e-bike kits(bafang, tongsheng etc.) or factory e-bikes with most common e-motor providers(Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano etc.) would be interesting and useful as well.
Great video. Really helpful advice for people looking to get onto an e-bike. I liked the style of the video a lot. Simple, down to earth, non-biased opinions. Great job!
What's the cheapest power bike? I need to carry a kid's trailer up hills, but I don't care about fancy brakes, style, comfort, speed etc. I'll never travel more than 10 miles (including return) at a time. I just want help getting up hills without it overheating and that is all. Thanks.
I like the way you are helping people pick e-bikes! More please.
Hi Micah have you considered making you diy ebike book a kindle book , it would be good for overseas people like me , postage is the same price as book to oz
I see all the comments about getting a higher powered e-bike but no mention about how most states have licensing requirements about e-bike going over 20mph.
You have make a video on them
you should definitely make this a series. i enjoyed it.
I enjoy this video, I think it would be a good series to continue for those of us who are wanting to buy, but not knowing how much is to much. I willing to pay a fair price and for a good e bike. But I don’t know what is good vs a waste of money
No one should buy an ebike, they should build one. It's super easy and you can get twice the range, twice the power, better everything, for less than half the price. Any cheap ebike will just be another piece of junk in your garage, and an expensive one is just a ripoff. Well, any prebuilt ebike is a ripoff. I spent 1800 including a nice new bike and can go 50 miles hauling ass (25-30mph) or 70 miles+ taking it easy. Top speed around 32-35, depending on conditions. If I spent another couple hundred on a more powerful motor I'd be ripping over 40mph, way too fast on a bicycle...
It took me under 3 hours to build. If I did it again, it would take half that.
Dust Man..... Wow, that sounds great. What components did you elect to use on your build?? Thanks!!
@@Mytyweav I bought a Giant Talon 3 29er bike (this was kindof a mistake, I was told it was a 68mm bottom bracket, when it was actually a 73, not a huge deal but pushed the chain line out, as well as not allowing me to put the secondary lock ring on, so I have to make sure it's tight once in a while, or before trail riding). Also, a disadvantage of the large 29er bike is that I have to lean over farther to take a tight fast turn, a little unnerving. I used the Bafang BBS02 mid drive kit from Luna Cycle, and the "52" volt 27.9 amp hour high energy triangle battery pack (1400 watt hours) from Em3ev, with 58.8volt charger with a switch to choose between 90 or 100 percent charge, and the triangle battery bag. I had to attach a different connector to the battery wires to mate with the bafang system. The battery indicator doesn't read quite right, I think due to slightly higher voltage battery. I ended up buying an aftermarket chain ring later because the stock bafang one derails too easy when on rough terrain. The mileage numbers were real numbers with throttle only, not the BS figures the ebike and/or battery manufacturers give you. BUT, this was on a long smooth bike path with minimal stopping and starting and minimal elevation differential. Around town probably more like 40-45 miles if I'm riding briskly. I've never really taken it easy around town so can't tell you exactly what I would get, but definitely well over 50 miles if I were to accelerate modestly and keep it between 15-20mph. If I were to pedal? Well, probably 100+ miles with fairly easy pedaling. I don't think most people need a battery that big, I just wanted to be sure I can ride out to the mountains around here to go for hikes, and not worry about range, and so I don't have to charge it often. Sorry for the long winded reply, hope it was helpful.
@@dustman96 Wow! Great information! I know that Triangle pack... It's pretty big. YOU have RANGE and power. Too bad you had bad info on the Bottom Bracket width. I know Bafang makes different units for different bottom brackets. My KHS 6500 has the Bafang BBSHD and it's unreal strong and powerful. I have no problem riding into town and back to my place which is very Hilly and the mileage to and from is always over 30 miles. I do pedal quite a bit but the Bafang makes it so nice to climb these hills, some of them pretty steep. I do keep an extra charger at the airport in my hangar just in case I might want to run a bunch of errands once I'm in town. Never a problem getting back home. I rarely charge at the hangar. Again, Great info so people can see what really works! I LOVE knowing I can easily Climb any hill that comes my way.......
@@Mytyweav I've always wondered what the BBSHD is like. The BBS02 has enough power for me, but it would be cool to get the HD and detune it a little bit so I could just leave the throttle pegged for long periods of time with no worries.
I'm dying to get a bike to help me get exercise. I've had 3 back surgeries...I'm looking at the 20in fat tire. Can anyone suggest a good bike. Also is 20in a good size for me. I am 52 and female. This video is a good start for me to begin
If I were you I would look at a recumbent bike or trike. They're expensive to buy new, but much more affordable used. If I had 3 back surgeries, I would not have bought my 20 in fat tire bike, nor my 26" path bike. There are many "why ride a recumbent" videos on you tube you can watch to get a better idea.
Ok thank you
I have been building my own electric bikes and trikes for awhile now and have been using the Aotema hub motor kits. These are the only ones I have found that give a 5 year guarantee on the motor. Have you ever checked these out?
hi Micah,
another good, informative video.
I mostly made contact to be sure you and yours are staying safe and healthy.
My eBikes, with packs built from your Vruzend cell holders (shameless plug for you!!! ), are working as well as they were when 1st built (about a year ago).
I need to build a 72V pack for the eDrift "Fat Tire Scooter" I just bought, and will use your cell holders once again.
That's it.
Ride safe and take care of yourself and your family.
All the Best.
cheers
Boots Langley
La Mesa, ca
PS; have you given up on the little Honda eBike Project? I would love to see any progress you've made on it.
Thanks for the kind words. I’m still working on the Honda. I just need to find the time to finish it after moving recently. I hope you’re doing well, stay safe out there.
I like this format for maybe a monthly edition.. good information. Thanks Micah
You are a down to earth, realistic advisor. Thanks
This was a great video. You actually answered some of my questions. I own the Jetson Bolt and I agree with you that is more like a scooter with a seat rather than an E- bike. Keep up the wonderful content.
The bolt was suggested to me as a cheaper alternative to the Imotion P1 or P2. Interesting thing about the Bolt is that since it's a rebrand of another vehicle there are people modding them in interesting ways. One that caught my attention was the official company (Dyu) had an upgrade kit adding a magnetic sensor and pedal crank that makes it an actual, albeit minimal, ebike. I considered actually getting the the Bolt and adding at least a crank as a back up for low battery, but then I thought why not just get a slightly more expensive ebike like the Swagtron (ugh, I hate that name though).
I really do like this type of video even though i already chose and have my bike (Lectric XP). I like the way you go over the feature of a bike without bashing what might be considered a fault of a bike.
Perhaps you could do a similar video with accessories? I am looking for a quality suspension seat post for my XP that wont break the bank. Things like lights, racks, tire pumps, tools, helmets, and more could be covered.
I have a Satori Animaris suspension seatpost on my converted ebike that I can recommend. Similar to Thudbuster and Suntour but quite a bit less $$ and well made. I've had it for over a year now and my back thanks me every time I ride it :)
I have the Suntour SP12 - it is a really good one, with respect to the cost. Now I do not care about curbs anymore. Better than the ones inside the shaft.
@@ricknoe942 -- I need to verify the length I need for myself and the bike. The Satori Animaris I have only found in a 350mm length while the Suntour has a 400mm option. Also need to factor in my weight as I am 225lbs.
@@tbirdracefan the 350mm (almost 14") length should be enough. I've ridden a Lectric XP and I have long legs. Either one should handle your weight they are both adjustable. The main thing is to make sure you get the right diameter for your bike. I agree with TheStuartstardust, these posts are better than the cheap "pogo stick" models.
@@ricknoe942 I just measured and i have 11-7/8" of my seat post exposed. Do you think 2 inches is enough to support me?
What. Do you think of Fiido L2 350 watt rear hub motor 48v 20ah and is there a way to hack govenor?
I love it. I had one and it was great. Just disappeared from Amazon though which is a shame because most of the China shopping sites (aliexpress, gearbest, etc) don't seem to ship it to the US.
Regarding the governor, I haven't pulled the controller on it so I'm not sure, but many will have a speed limiting wire in the controller, so that's a good place to start the search.
Hey mate, I have 4 bike's, 2 electric and 2 normal, I have a fat bike electric which is fun but not a day to day use, the other one is a rockrider 540 and got conversion kit from ebay.... And biggest battery on the tube (15.4 ah36v)... Bike cost 400 pound kit and battery 400 pound .... Am 135kg and do 32+km/h......I prefer ebay kit... Easy installation and becouse bike is stock easy to repair(battery is generic u can get new or upgrade at any time not like special made for a frame) ... Way much better that a electric made
I have a 250 watt bike and cam climb hills easy even In first power settings so don’t understand why people say you need more power
Still hoping to build with my own.
For the Ride1up 500, (Carla) would ithe frame be low enough to add a Zoom suspension seat post, and/or a good sprung seat such as a Selle Royal Drifter, Cloud-9, or lighter Bikeroo sprung 10" wide class saddles to complement the front suspension fork? I have the Selle on my DIY e-bike and it transforms the bike and the ride experience on e-bike (on ebike, ride is longer in duration, more upright (more rider weight on seat), and bumps are felt more at seat than handlebars, vs reg bike).
Lets make this easy, the aventon cinch ebike in your opinion is for what type of riding. Oh, version 2 please. Thanks
Great video. Even though I ride an ebike already, I like knowing what’s out there or what’s new with ebikes. Answering ebike questions will give me an edge.
I have the Aventon Level and it is awesome! Have 100 miles on it and it does not have ugly battery and no one knows it is an ebike! The welding is invisible.
How is it going up hills? How much do u weigh? I'm @ about 225lbs, disabled with back pain. Need to start slow then will work up to pedaling more. Thx for any info!
Great video, Micah. I definitely think you should continue doing these. The information is helpful and like you said can reach a larger audience. It seems you have gotten a lot of support to continue.
Have you ever done a review on the Jeep ( Quiet Cat ) e bike? Looks like a very high end bike.
Good video! How is going the project of the electric motorcycle?
Around 250 pounds? Go with AT LEAST 750 watt setup.... I'm using high quality packs with 52 volt nominal, 58 volt at full charge. This makes all the difference in the world.
I got a factory job, I was 180lbs when I started. I'm not too old to sweat and grunt, 34, just too lazy to climb that stupid hill at 5am to get to work. ;) He did recommend a 750 over email too but I had bought the Aventon Level because everyone was selling out and back ordered.
@@rob2257 My biggest recommendation would be to make Cost/Price NOT be the first priority. Fortunately, the price of a very good EV Bicycle has come down quite a bit in the last couple years. Concentrate on what your "Mission" is..... For me, it was getting into town and back over crappy gravel bumpy roads and then having to deal with paved roads but very hilly terrain. At my weight and at age 70, I needed more pedal assist power during the steep climbs. The bike and Batteries I bought really make it all possible and that makes all the difference in the world when it comes time to make the trip. My round trip is usually very close to 30 miles... I was VERY skeptical in the beginning but I can honestly say I am so much more than impressed and satisfied with what I did. Buy a good bike with a good power system. You will never be sorry you did. Trying to get something that might be Better than real for a price that is unbelievable will only provide undesirable results more often than not.... Go For It!
@@Mytyweav I'm definitely not above upgrading, and expect I'll need to, I just want to make sure I consistently make it out of bed and on a bike at 5 a.m. before buy something super expensive . . . I hate mornings with a passion. I won't be super miffed if I do wear it out in a year or two if I actually use it. I live in town, super good roads, so hills is my only hard part. Bought the Aventon Level, btw, day before Micah replied, if I can wear it out I want a drop bar mid drive roadie or just to be in good enough shape to ride my Caad 10 to work again. :)
@@rob2257 Oh boy, I hear you! I will say my bike with the BBSHD is totally FUN to ride too. I forgot to mention that earlier. Fun, Powerful AND Reliable. That Bafang setup is truly out of this world! I'm thinking if you rode my bike, you would completely understand. BTW, I went to Luna Cycles website earlier tonight just to price out my Motor AND Battery combination. The motor setup was close to $850 and the 13.5 Amp hour 52Volt pack was over $550! I have used my batteries a Lot in the last two years and they only seem to get better or stay the same. Those Panasonic Cells are a HUGE difference in results. I'm thinking just the "Fun Factor" alone would make it all worthwhile. BTW, my BBSHD is set up for 1500 watts. Wish you lived close to me, I'd let you have a very good demo/experience ride. Good Luck Rob! Weav
i have found all of your videos useful, Micah. keep up the great content, mate!
Great video. Would love to see this as a series.
I like to ride trails on the weekend and my husband has a fat tire bike, so being blue to handle trails with confidence is very important to me. But, I also commute during the week. I think I want to go with an emtb, but I really need fenders and a rear rack. Any ideas???
would you suggest a BBS02B kit for a first ebiker?
I have a 26" Canadian Garneau Hybrid that I love, and seems to be a perfect fit for mid drive,(68mm bottom bracket) wanted to use it as the host for Bafang
I got one for my first go, very happy with it, although I did change the programming, was way too agressive, didnt feel like you were pedaling.
Google , Hacker’s Guide To Programming The BBS02 & BBSHD, scroll down and get the Lectric file for a quick fix.
Oh and dont forget to buy a USB programming cable, the rest is in the hackers guide.
@@gloriouspopemantom373 Thanks for the reply, yeah I've heard exactly the same from a few other Bafang owners, seems even the level1 of the pedal assist kicks too much of the power, they said if you move to 9 level assist that would help a bit though, btw, I just ordered a bbs02b as well the programming cable :) I'll try doing the hack and see how it goes once I get it, cheers
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True, when looking at the original settings, it started at 55% current at lvl1, Lectric has more of a standard 10%.
Lvl 1,2,3 feel great now with 10-20-30%, much more of an assist compared to the unbridled acceleration.
Good luck and enjoy.
Are there any ebikes that can be operated by a person who only has one arm? My adult son had a stroke when he was six. He does not have use of his right arm. We wanted to get bikes that we can use on nature trails or parks when we go RVing. Thank you.
I always enjoy your videos! you are the guy I believe in a world of (fake news) where true reporting on products is hard to come by. This was a excellent format keep it up.
Nice review. How about some a little higher. What do you think about Juiced bikes. Some have as much as 998 WH. Great range and not over priced.
Hey Mika I'm 190 and I built an electric BMX. GPS clocked me at 37mph...can you come test ride my bike and see what I need to do?
i would like advice on making an all wheel drive trike,with a long range,and maybe some upgrades to make it capable on some rougher dirt roads,ie: fat tires or front suspension,also i want to make my own battery with the help of VRUZEND. thanks again for all shows past and future,good luck to you and yours.
My 9 year old and I just got into bike riding... we try to do easy park trails, but the hills are a bit too hard for him. He loves his little mongoose bmx freestyle bike. Is there a conversion kit that would work for him? It would take some finesse, but I'm sure he wouldn't complain too much if I purchased him an ebike, if need be. What do you suggest?
Have you reviewed the green bike 750 next? My wife and I plan to start full time rving next year and we are looking for a good folding bike. We're both about 220 lbs. I just subscribed to your youtube channel.
My req’s. Foldable. Under 50 pounds. Thumb throttle. 20mph for at least 20 miles.
I would like to see a video on 21700 batteries and how much better they are for ebike Vs 18650's.
Hi Great video. I'm looking at buying an e bike here in the UK as i now have trouble with my knee. I can still peddle up hills but because I use my bike for touring it will help me over long distances. On average we would travel 80 to 100 miles a day so I foresee problems as the batteries only cover an average of 20 to 30 miles before they require recharging and with the charging time it would mean sitting in a cafe for half the day. We would also be towing a trailer carrying our camping equipment. So is there anyway we can charge our batteries as we travel. We would also carry a spare if required as well as recharging. Thanks
Great content. I love your Diy battery building videos and these what to buy videos. I had a stroke in 2017 and am considering an ebike with pedal assist and fat tires for options for trails. I would love to hear more. Thanks for your channel. It is informative and helps me know what is out there. Cheers!
I’d like a video about what an awd Ebikes can do that rear only drive can’t
Nice and short video! Informative.
Love this video!..so many out there to choose from it’s confusing...hubby and I got Rad Minis and we love them so far!
Quick thoughts on my home town E Bike company Juiced Bikes out of San Diego!
Good video. Keep them up. I’d like your opinion on what bikes are available with the Bafang BBSHD and the M620 mid drives. Also, where is the best place to buy to avoid scams and unanticipated costs?
I think I’d like the most power, for a 5 ft senior, with carriers, in lotsa rain, I. Met a fellow who had two Tesla car batteries on a bike he built- , can I buy a cheaper frame and upgrade the batteries? To get more speed, range and power? The RadminiST -2 looks good, heavy and expensive - any thoughts. ?
Also I’m heavy.
How about making e drift trike?
Good job! Specific answers to specific questions is always interesting. You learn something everytime.
Impressive looking selection of books there at the end. I had an eBike about 15 years ago but quickly came to dislike it. Maybe now they have come of age but I see there are plenty of deceptive models or prices for sale.
I guess the video is a month old, but let me ask my situation too...
Guess weight is a factor, so i am lets say 110kg (that should be probably about 230-240lbs?)
Speed needs are in the 40kph + (obviously in throttle only mode) (such speeds should be regular, but if i get used to them they may become, so scratch that XD)
to have a throttel only mode
a range of more than 20km (preferably 25km)
and yes as the guy in the video i have a big uphill part in my daily route. one part of 2km+ straight 8%+. and another one about 1km of 15% hill (good thing is in the morning all this is downhill, but when coming back it is a murder
Also like bigger wheels (26" and above) with no city thin tyres... prefer the fatter tyres for their cutioning, and front suspension is really wanted.
Main problem comes from the price-budget side. I may be able to go up to 1300euros... (obviously EU). Would love to go higher, but even that is a bit high for me now... (my car costs slightly more, and i want to use it less)
I know that with a bigger budget there are many good options but in this budget i havent found many things that could satisfy me...
from research i think that a 1.3kw motor should be great and a 1kw should be barely sufficient??
Please Micah or other commenters enlighten me on possible models.
Also i have considered making my own e-bike, but not sure on how to choose the motor, lack of pretty much all the needed tools and of a frame has kept me off for the last 2 years that i have been planning that...
Thanks for taking time to do this. Any pros or cons on the folding Vello bike+ from Austria? Stay safe 😷
I bought 1500w csc conversion kit. How can I upgrade? Can I change the controller first and keep the hub motor.
Great video 👍. I am 336 lbs. I own Fat Tire mountain bike. I would like a e bike that could get me around on a dirt bike trail. And a 20 mile round trip commute to work. What would you recommend?
Thanks Micah, I appreciate your videos. Please continue
Bought a LiFePo4 battery non diy. Can I use the hailong battery cases or any case? If so how can I install them.
Ant recommendations 20" ebikes 40 plus range for all day riding, not worrying about changing? And under $1700. Currently I have non-ebike 20" Mountain
I was thinking of running two 350 Watt motors together to a common sprocket driven chain. I know that this will decrease my range by half but will it give me more power for hills?
Just get one single bbshd 1kw mid drive so it can use the gears
Would really like more videos like this on e- bikes and electric motorcycles. Good job.
Yose power or Bafang conversion kit?? I'm looking for quality and reliability
Hello Micah,
I really like this video and I hope you decide to do more.
Maybe once or twice a month you can pick out 3-5 purchase scenarios from the most generally applicable 'what should I buy' emails you've received.
If so that would be great!
Perhaps you could even include some e-motorcycle and DIY build-kit deals,
or any other good deals you spot along the way that you think we should check out.
Again, thanks for all these videos you've continued doing in addition to your work you do for the Electrek site. ✌️
Thanks for the feedback, that's a great idea! I'll see what I can do :-)
Have you seen the “easy” cruiser bike from MOD bikes in Austin? Any thoughts?
Does anyone know which motors if any you can turn off and will not make it super hard to peddle