This is amazing, I am so proud and happy to watch a true meeting of great minds. It make me even happier to see black men and women discuss a topic that is incredibly important to us and our history.
With 50 % of failed marriages in the US, Polygamy needs to be made legal.That way so many woman will have loving relationships that are legal & children will have both parents. Of course limits should be placed on amount of wives a common man can have.All marriages should make it economically feasible to survive.
NO! 1 Timothy 3:2 “A Bishop then must be blamelesse, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behauiour, giuen to hospitalitie, apt to teach;”
Good discussion and good to hear a non-dogmatic view. My only request is that moderators need to learn to listen and listen carefully before they come in. This one seems distracted most of the time. He interrupts not to comment on the main thrust of the contributor's point, but on some small aspect of what he just said. Sad. An interesting accent can't surely be the key criteria for being a moderator! I'd love to listen to such a discussion moderated by, say, Muyanga Lutaaya.
I LIKE THE BRAIN POWER OF THIS LADY SHE LIVES IN THE REAL WORLD AND SHE IS ABOVE AVERAGE. PLUS THE PASTOR IS ALWAYS ON POINT.HE IS GENUINE AND WELL INFORMED.
The lady is realistic and practical in her observation, she's very open minded in tackling the question raised to her. She's has a multi pronged in the content and context of her argument.
Search Apostle Habil Were on RUclips. You may contact me. My contact is there you will help implement the idea. I have more information on Christian Polygamy (POLYGYNY).
I was involved with a woman online she was Ugandan... I came to the realization that polygamy is acceptable within the Christian faith. I tried to discuss the topic with her and she continue to accuse me and other such. I didn't want to force her but as a Christian holding such a belief without her would have been quite difficult therefore I charged her to study the topic and which I wanted her not to give her view but only to study it I told her if she refused to withhold her opinion for a season 2 years and study then I wouldn't act upon my thoughts concerning polygamy and that at the end she could give her determination she refused and continue to be adamant not to study the subject nor to consider or prayerfully just take the time. I told her that if she done this that I would make the choice myself for polygamy in which she simply wouldn't yield 2 my leading in that matter and it broke up our relationship. She puts all the blame on me but I sincerely tried and was willing to give up polygamy but only if she was willing to study the matter prayerfully.
I think to have a very good discussion. The panel should have been balanced. For and against. That would make it more interesting...so please organise another one again with a balanced panelist.
The Okello guy acted smart but the moment he opened his mouth he showed the whole world what he is - an empty kettle. Making jokes and scoffing at others won't make one intelligent.
Now Pastor Male Solomon is one informed person.... With knowledge of the early church and it's foundations.... Most people enjoy quoting scripture for the sake of building a case for thier own opinions and have no clue about even the lives of the writers of scripture
Guys you are jokers, but I respect your opinion. The Word of God is not subject to logic ,philosophy education etc. We can say, do what pleases us as humans but there's a day of accountability before God . Just a matter of time.
If you need to deny logic and/or science for the alleged “word of god” to make sense, you should probably rethink who’s the “joker”. U have the right to believe in whatever god u want but don’t ignore science. At least we know THAT’s real.
@@mariab.5652 I don’t know about children and I don’t want to make any claims one way or the other about that, and maybe there’s something else you’re referring to when you talk about adults, but the only harm i could envision is when there isn’t informed consent or if they aren’t protecting themselves from stds, which apply to all types of sexual relationships anyway. The solution is: Understand how consent works and respect each other’s boundaries and wishes, use protection, get tested regularly and try to destigmatize stds so if all else fails and you still end up with one you are comfortable going to get treated.
In the USA, there is a long running program called "Sister Wives". After 15 - 20 years this man who took 4 wives is all crashing down. As is usually the case, the man has an affinity to the youngest wife. She is more attractive, her body may be more appealing. This is why David was given a "young virgin" on her death bed, vs one of his older wives brought him. The following refers to ONE WIFE of one's youth. Not the WIVES of your youth: Proverbs 5:18 “Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.”
Men wan't multiple women for their qualities but all the women have to be stuck with that 1 man? He doesn't have all of the qualities that all the women need, but they settle because they give that man the power and it's really the woman with the power.
Hahaha..this is comical. There was no one there to counter Male's total flipping of scripture. Satan has surely created a platform for him. Acts 17:30, And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent: The era Male is basing his morals upon was even relegated by Jesus himself when He introduced a superior standard of his followers. If he seeks to qualify and use as a standard for today's christian what Moses, David and all did in their lives, he's deluded and has intentionally abandoned the word of God. 1 Cor 7:2-3, But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. Mat 19:4-5, He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? Eph 5:31, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 1Tim 3:2, Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, Titus 1:6, If anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination.
@vicent sykes Your need to practice new learnt vocabulary is commendable but misplaced. My Six year old constructs more meaningful sentences than this. Wondering what else you have in store to reveal your intellect. With bated breath...
@@TumwineProsper I hear what you're saying sir. Let's put into context the elevation of standards that Christ introduces in the new testament. The same Christ that says " if you look at a woman and desire her in your heart, you've committed adultery." He also said in Mark 10:7 A man shall leave both parents and cleave to his wife (single). Paul echoes the same in eph 5:31. Vs 33, mentions to love his WIFE as himself. We have no precedent in the new testament to marry many wives. If it was ok, it wouldn't be a requirement for ministers as required in Timothy 1Tim3:2.
THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH ISSUES WITH MALE. BTW, HE DOESN'T PASTOR ANY CHURCH. The scripture says; YOU SEARCH IN IN THE SCRIPTURES THINKING THAT IN THEM YOU WILL FIND LIFE? ... and Jesus says "I AM THE LIFE". MALE, WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF ADAM AND EVE? THAT WAS JESUS' YARDSTICK ABOUT BIBLICAL MARRIAGE. ... SHAME.
Exactly we read the scriptures Exodus 20 verse 7 says You shall not commit adultery so am starting to qn all his submissions only qn is did he get this wrong..I will endeavour to get his phone hear it from him direct coz this is a clip of 2019...
The Bible doesn’t lie. All through the OT you see the Patriarchs favored by God taking more than one wife. He is using the Bible. We have to use the scriptures if we are truly Christians to support anything we say.
@@JephPrince1 As long as it lines up with God’s word I have no problem with it. There are many women in different countries that don’t have husbands and cannot seek husbands. These women are poor. So if a man who can support them wants to and start a family why not.
There is a reason why we have honeymoon,it's time a woman can calculate how many times her husband needs her per day.Are Morden women able to keep up with that and have thier own space.Can they be available when ever he feels like.Why do men look for a kwiky.
according to the Biblical standards Aman must have one wife and thats all more than one wife means your out of God s control .why did God creat Eva awoman to Adam why did not make wives for him
@@Traveltheworld1818. Many pastor will go to hell according to my observation most pastors are controlled by the flesh they have no holyspirit they serve in Sin
great topic! I just wanna ad that *a woman cannot be jealous on her's Husband (and Head)* as the Church cannot be jealous on Christ because He have 7 wife's and 10 maidens (5 of the maidens were not too clever). I remember that King David had also 6 wife's when he took Bar-Seba from Huriah, and those extra 10 wifes(from King Saul) he left behind to take care of his house... those whom Absalom was sleeping with. (in this way i counted 7 wife's and 10 concubines). I also have a great news from the Bible: In Isaiah chapter 4 verse 1 is there a great context of poliginy, and surely will be happening soon, because of Chapter 3 who is allready happened. So, my friends, the whole Scripture is inspired and will be fullfilled soon! *may the Peace of the Son be uppon the Sons of Peace and over their houses Amen.* P. S. for sure, God hates divorcing and emancipation, but not being humble, and accepting poliginy !
Polygamy is biblical whether we want to accept it or not
God allowed it.
Same God He has not changed.
This is amazing, I am so proud and happy to watch a true meeting of great minds. It make me even happier to see black men and women discuss a topic that is incredibly important to us and our history.
🤦🏿♂️ 🤡
Good to finally hear the Truth, God bless you, hello from Poland!
What true? Do you even know truth?
I have no problem with polygamy as long as the man can stand his ground and do equal responsibilities
Hypocrisy in christianity...many have one church wife and other 2 concubines with children waiting for the day they die and this family be revealed !
Wooo to the one that condemned , what God has not condem
I enjoyed this debate and the panel was honest. Thanks guys
With 50 % of failed marriages in the US, Polygamy needs to be made legal.That way so many woman will have loving relationships that are legal & children will have both parents. Of course limits should be placed on amount of wives a common man can have.All marriages should make it economically feasible to survive.
NO!
1 Timothy 3:2
“A Bishop then must be blamelesse, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behauiour, giuen to hospitalitie, apt to teach;”
Not you acting like you care for women 😂
I am a woman! I think polygamy is a choice for couples.
@@NoName-pc7et why is the fact, that you're a woman, matter? Women make logical fallacy too
@@maxb.244 I Timothy 3 is not command but advise
Bravo pastor male, I conquer with the argument that polygamy should be practiced to those basing on their power of the pockets.
*Pasta
nah not my pasta really. Ssempa isn't twisting things
Good discussion and good to hear a non-dogmatic view. My only request is that moderators need to learn to listen and listen carefully before they come in. This one seems distracted most of the time. He interrupts not to comment on the main thrust of the contributor's point, but on some small aspect of what he just said. Sad. An interesting accent can't surely be the key criteria for being a moderator! I'd love to listen to such a discussion moderated by, say, Muyanga Lutaaya.
I LIKE THE BRAIN POWER OF THIS LADY SHE LIVES IN THE REAL WORLD AND SHE IS ABOVE AVERAGE. PLUS THE PASTOR IS ALWAYS ON POINT.HE IS GENUINE AND WELL INFORMED.
Stefano is taking a rather !liberal stance. He's neither here nor there.
The lady is realistic and practical in her observation, she's very open minded in tackling the question raised to her. She's has a multi pronged in the content and context of her argument.
Polygamy is the way to go
I think the moderator missed the point, he should have balanced the panel...
pastor male should open his own youtube show
Search Apostle Habil Were on RUclips. You may contact me. My contact is there you will help implement the idea. I have more information on Christian Polygamy (POLYGYNY).
saruman thewhite **Pasta*
He was educated by A Pastor on On The Spot Show Debate he must give the man credit for enlightened him
In hell where he can burn
I was involved with a woman online she was Ugandan... I came to the realization that polygamy is acceptable within the Christian faith. I tried to discuss the topic with her and she continue to accuse me and other such. I didn't want to force her but as a Christian holding such a belief without her would have been quite difficult therefore I charged her to study the topic and which I wanted her not to give her view but only to study it I told her if she refused to withhold her opinion for a season 2 years and study then I wouldn't act upon my thoughts concerning polygamy and that at the end she could give her determination she refused and continue to be adamant not to study the subject nor to consider or prayerfully just take the time. I told her that if she done this that I would make the choice myself for polygamy in which she simply wouldn't yield 2 my leading in that matter and it broke up our relationship. She puts all the blame on me but I sincerely tried and was willing to give up polygamy but only if she was willing to study the matter prayerfully.
Stop talking 💩
But these guys are not serious, that what is not in woman A, you go to Woman B, what if the woman doesn't find all she wanted in You???
wondering the save thing...apparently a woman's feelings and needs are irrelevant
Then you go and find and a woman that is on the same page. It’s not that hard.
I think to have a very good discussion. The panel should have been balanced. For and against. That would make it more interesting...so please organise another one again with a balanced panelist.
The Okello guy acted smart but the moment he opened his mouth he showed the whole world what he is - an empty kettle. Making jokes and scoffing at others won't make one intelligent.
Totally agree with you!
Polygamy is positive living according our honourable sister😂
That look she gave buddy in the dark shirt when he said he thinks man is only for one woman 😂
Now Pastor Male Solomon is one informed person.... With knowledge of the early church and it's foundations.... Most people enjoy quoting scripture for the sake of building a case for thier own opinions and have no clue about even the lives of the writers of scripture
Think this is not right from Male because the ten commandments says You shallbnot commit aduter ltery.Exodus chap 20 ver 7
@@henrymwesigwa3865 yes he's tryna live by the OT
1 Timothy 3:2
“A Bishop then must be blamelesse, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behauiour, giuen to hospitalitie, apt to teach;”
@@onesyphorus What is he trying to live by then. You can't divide God's law. Get informed please.
i never said he is living by God's law. he's living by how men lived who didn't follow God. read carefully @@LubovUg
Pasta Male has the point.
I disagree with lady panelist. Self control is one of the most important Christian virtues cheeeeiiii Many are going to hell due to do what you feel
True.
Polygamy of any kind is a choice. It's not biological. It's a social construct. It's a man's world. Polygny is for man's benefit.
This same pastor was against polygamy years ago,
Guys you are jokers, but I respect your opinion.
The Word of God is not subject to logic ,philosophy education etc. We can say, do what pleases us as humans but there's a day of accountability before God .
Just a matter of time.
the bible condemns adultery but does not condem polygamy.Abraham,Moses ,Solomon had more than one wife...so be faithful to your many wives.
If you need to deny logic and/or science for the alleged “word of god” to make sense, you should probably rethink who’s the “joker”. U have the right to believe in whatever god u want but don’t ignore science. At least we know THAT’s real.
@@Traveltheworld1818. there is nowhere saying that Abraham married that slave of his wife.
Description is not prescription!
@@bodabodapasta1500 Science says that polygamy harms women, children and society 🙄
Science doesn't say men are polygamous.
@@mariab.5652 I don’t know about children and I don’t want to make any claims one way or the other about that, and maybe there’s something else you’re referring to when you talk about adults, but the only harm i could envision is when there isn’t informed consent or if they aren’t protecting themselves from stds, which apply to all types of sexual relationships anyway. The solution is: Understand how consent works and respect each other’s boundaries and wishes, use protection, get tested regularly and try to destigmatize stds so if all else fails and you still end up with one you are comfortable going to get treated.
True bt risky 🤔
In the USA, there is a long running program called "Sister Wives". After 15 - 20 years this man who took 4 wives is all crashing down.
As is usually the case, the man has an affinity to the youngest wife. She is more attractive, her body may be more appealing.
This is why David was given a "young virgin" on her death bed, vs one of his older wives brought him.
The following refers to ONE WIFE of one's youth. Not the WIVES of your youth:
Proverbs 5:18
“Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.”
6:58: Are you trying to say something? Lol
Men wan't multiple women for their qualities but all the women have to be stuck with that 1 man? He doesn't have all of the qualities that all the women need, but they settle because they give that man the power and it's really the woman with the power.
Then who was in support of monogamy?
Satan is guiding them .sorry lot of nonsense discussion .you are not guided by de holly spirit
@@marianice5436 very true.
Pastor Male, you should apologize to Pastor KIMERA . He was saying what you're saying now and you were adamantly opposing him!!
*Pasta
What if after committing he later realized his nature etc can the original contract be revised?
Hahaha..this is comical. There was no one there to counter Male's total flipping of scripture. Satan has surely created a platform for him. Acts 17:30, And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent:
The era Male is basing his morals upon was even relegated by Jesus himself when He introduced a superior standard of his followers. If he seeks to qualify and use as a standard for today's christian what Moses, David and all did in their lives, he's deluded and has intentionally abandoned the word of God.
1 Cor 7:2-3, But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.
Mat 19:4-5, He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
Eph 5:31, “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”
1Tim 3:2, Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
Titus 1:6, If anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination.
@vicent sykes Your need to practice new learnt vocabulary is commendable but misplaced. My Six year old constructs more meaningful sentences than this. Wondering what else you have in store to reveal your intellect. With bated breath...
There is a difference between sexual immorality and marriage to several wives
@vicent sykes you didn't disappoint there. Sad to say. Any more verbal garbage you want to spew? Get it off your chest.
@@TumwineProsper I hear what you're saying sir. Let's put into context the elevation of standards that Christ introduces in the new testament. The same Christ that says " if you look at a woman and desire her in your heart, you've committed adultery." He also said in Mark 10:7 A man shall leave both parents and cleave to his wife (single). Paul echoes the same in eph 5:31. Vs 33, mentions to love his WIFE as himself. We have no precedent in the new testament to marry many wives. If it was ok, it wouldn't be a requirement for ministers as required in Timothy 1Tim3:2.
What is the bible solution to prostitution due to increased number of women ?
THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH ISSUES WITH MALE. BTW, HE DOESN'T PASTOR ANY CHURCH. The scripture says; YOU SEARCH IN IN THE SCRIPTURES THINKING THAT IN THEM YOU WILL FIND LIFE? ... and Jesus says "I AM THE LIFE". MALE, WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THE CONTEXT OF ADAM AND EVE? THAT WAS JESUS' YARDSTICK ABOUT BIBLICAL MARRIAGE. ... SHAME.
Exactly we read the scriptures Exodus 20 verse 7 says You shall not commit adultery so am starting to qn all his submissions only qn is did he get this wrong..I will endeavour to get his phone hear it from him direct coz this is a clip of 2019...
The Bible doesn’t lie. All through the OT you see the Patriarchs favored by God taking more than one wife. He is using the Bible. We have to use the scriptures if we are truly Christians to support anything we say.
@@treanthony9831 In other words, you are in support of polygamy?
@@JephPrince1 As long as it lines up with God’s word I have no problem with it. There are many women in different countries that don’t have husbands and cannot seek husbands. These women are poor. So if a man who can support them wants to and start a family why not.
@@treanthony9831 Any scriptures to back you up? Will be waiting.
AND AL OF THEM HAVE NO RINGS. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE?
The ring you are talking of is not anywhere in the Bible
Interesting observation....
What has ring got to do with marriage?
U are brain washed to link marriage to rings
@@taabutafrey589 Who said there was a ring in the bible? And so does it make a ring satanic?
There is a reason why we have honeymoon,it's time a woman can calculate how many times her husband needs her per day.Are Morden women able to keep up with that and have thier own space.Can they be available when ever he feels like.Why do men look for a kwiky.
let the non xtians have many women and xtians be with one
We can have polygamy as long it goes both ways!
woow see this melanin poping 😍black beauty
Boda boda
according to the Biblical standards Aman must have one wife and thats all more than one wife means your out of God s control .why did God creat Eva awoman to Adam why did not make wives for him
God created only Eve for Adam and then he allowed his great men like Moses,Abraham ,Solomon have more than one wife..hahaha
@@Traveltheworld1818. Now are you mose or Abrahum or solomon???
@@Traveltheworld1818. Many pastor will go to hell according to my observation most pastors are controlled by the flesh they have no holyspirit they serve in Sin
Who wrote the bible
@vicent sykes hahaha
Please Pr male create a church
great topic!
I just wanna ad that *a woman cannot be jealous on her's Husband (and Head)* as the Church cannot be jealous on Christ because He have 7 wife's and 10 maidens (5 of the maidens were not too clever).
I remember that King David had also 6 wife's when he took Bar-Seba from Huriah, and those extra 10 wifes(from King Saul) he left behind to take care of his house... those whom Absalom was sleeping with.
(in this way i counted 7 wife's and 10 concubines).
I also have a great news from the Bible:
In Isaiah chapter 4 verse 1 is there a great context of poliginy, and surely will be happening soon, because of Chapter 3 who is allready happened.
So, my friends, the whole Scripture is inspired and will be fullfilled soon!
*may the Peace of the Son be uppon the Sons of Peace and over their houses Amen.*
P. S. for sure, God hates divorcing and emancipation, but not being humble, and accepting poliginy !
THE BIBLE S NOT AGAINST SLAVERY EITHER. YOU CAN'T APPROVE OF ONE WITHOUT APPROVING OF THE OTHER! ALL POLYGAMISTS ALSO HAD SLAVES!
Don't you have maids
@@derekm8742 : I don't see the significance of your reply regarding "maids". Please elaborate.
@@mbrown6837 explain Galatians 3:28.
This so called pastor male is going foolish
God created only Eve for Adam and then he allowed Moses,Abraham ,Solomon to have more than one wife haha
uhhh ok tbh I'd rather be raised by gay parents than polygamous ones....
I rather be raised by neither.
uh yes that was what i was implying @@LubovUg