Wow!!! A U-turn is Amazing, including slowing down for speed bumps can also recognize objects/debris off side of the roads and highway! Telsa Team is doing an Awesome Job please keep it up!!!
Thanks for the 11.4.6 driving experience update. Still on 11.4.4 and hopefully getting 11.4.6 OTA soon. Totally agree with your optimism. Tesla for the FSD win!
Good stuff I love your High level analysis during the drive. I don't know why more people don't think about this stuff and understand the huge changes to our world this will bring.
I don't yet own a Tesla, but your video makes me want to get one. Just not the time to make that switch yet, but my next car will be a Tesla. Great video! This is the advertising that Tesla needs.
We just bought a new 2023 Model Y and have never looked back. If cost is an issue holding you back I understand but if not go for it! You, too, will never look back. EV4LIFE!!!😊
I work in the automobile industry and I have an electric vehicle since 3 years now. Your FSD video was a huge surprise and wake up for me. I will certainly be sharing this with my friends and colleagues who have similar interest than me. I am even more sure I want a Tesla Model Y now... Thank you 👍
I can't wait to be able to put in my destination in the evening, go to sleep and wake up 8 hours later up north at my cottage ready for the day. What a time to be alive. Great vid cheers !
The Tesla picking up the lady walking her dog before you did is exciting knowing that eventually other car manufactures will pick up this technology or similar and this will be the norm. Eventually there will be "better" drivers on the road thanks to this pioneering!
This won't take long in my opinion. The FSD is a general solution type driving similar to the way we drive. So as long as the lane markers are good you should be okay. FSD will likely be licensed by the other manufacturers or they will get smoked in terms of competition.
3:17. I'm requesting 11.4.7 to initiate as an option (yes or no) FSD Voice intent. In this situation, have the FSD say (like Navi does), "Waiting for Pedestrian to cross". Passengers/Driver inside Tesla know the car's action 1-2 second prior giving them sense of comfort and trust in FSD. This will lead to rapid adoption of FSD.
Thank you very much for your insights and your vision of the future. Thanks to people like you, the world makes progress. AI is our greatest ally, and we still haven't fully unlocked its potential. I don't understand how some see it as their enemy.
How can you not touch the steering wheel on FSD? I'm a single hand driver. My MS goes bonkers if I take my second hand out to strach my head & keep prompting me to have two hands on the wheel let alone one!
I’m on 11.3.6 and quite frankly it’s really bad at times but also very good at other times. I’m looking forward to getting the software updates at some point.
Sometimes you can force an update. I was able to do it on my model 3. You press both scroll buttons on steering wheel down and hold it for a few seconds. Do this when you have the car on Wifi. Then when the car boots up it will recheck for latest software. It took me a few tries but it worked. My older tesla is having a bit of trouble getting off 11.3.6. Eventually it will get released. I am with you 11.3.6 is a bit jerky at times. 11.4.4 is better but there are some things 11.3.6 did better. Subtle things like picking up a lane that you want to merge into say to turn right off the highway. I have to constantly look to make sure idiot behind me (tailgater) isn't going to cut the car off.
wow blown away by fsd, i travel 500km a week for work and having fsd would literally make my roadtrips easier an safer. im getting close to my savings goal for a model 3. hopefully will buy one some day soon.
How many no intervention drives in a row would you say you have seen? How does it compare with Waymo and Cruise both doing 10,000 such drives in a row per week? I can't get my model 3 to do such a drive yet in silicon valley, but I am hoping it will some day.
I do not think it is reasonable to compare limited coverage, geo-fenced services such as Waymo and Cruise with something like Tesla which operates everywhere under all conditions.
@@DavidJao True, the Teslas are quite limited because of their lack of defined service area. Odd that people think that's some sort of advantage. The other companies don't want to make their cars drive on all streets for very good reasons. They could easily do it -- and a fair bit better than Tesla. They choose not to. What is strange is that so many folks, like yourself, see it as some sort of issue, as though mapping is the really hard problem, and driving safely in the first place is the easy one. That's backwards. Teslas don't self-drive everywhere, they can't self-drive anywhere. Self-drive doesn't mean pull off a few trips without a problem. It means pull off every trip, tens of thousands of them in a row, without a problem. It is odd that people don't see this. I would not get in my Tesla with nobody behind the wheel anywhere. Anywhere. Many tens of thousands of people are doing that every week in vehicles of Waymo, Cruise, AutoX, Baidu, WeRide and Pony.
@@bradtem Reality will prove you wrong. The other companies absolutely cannot drive everywhere or they would have done so already. Tesla is demonstrably 10 times statistically safer than unassisted human driving. Tesla has 100 times more miles of driving data than all the other companies combined because of their general purpose approach. Lastly, but far from least, Tesla is the only product in this category that regular people can buy today.
@@DavidJaoYeah too bad it's Tesla. It's like apple in 2010, other companies will catch up over time. If we are willing to give tesla time to develop, we should give other companies time to catch up. But buying proprietary tech like this and allowing a company to become a monopoly will lead to no innovation in the future.
What impresses me about Tesla isn't the self driving. It's the self driving anywhere. Others have a geographic area they can work in, but Telsa works in the entire country.
I got a question; since you mention "around the country", how does this system handle a road trip where you definitely must charge 1 time before destination? It would be cool if you could show this visualization of the car bringing you there and continuing after charge.
I recently took my first road trip from North Carolina to Maryland and 11.3.6 was an absolute dream. Zero disengagements and the only interventions were those last few hundred feet where I had to manually pull into the parking lots to charge. It was the same for the return trip where I took a complete different route. My car is a 2019 Dual Motor M3 with the hardware 3.0 retrofit.
Tesla Navigation maps automatically adds needed charging stops whenever you navigate to a destination that is too far away. FSD currently does not handle most parkng lots and will not automatically pull you into a parking space. But i will take you pretty close to the supechargers. You need to pull up to an available spot and back in (it may be able to autopark once you lined up to a spot, but it is not using FSD to do so, just the normal autopark at this time)
Cool video, I'm located in europe and the FSD does not work over here. Its more like a very good lane assist. But does it not require any "hands on the wheel" any longer? I hate the nagging we have to handle. Even though I have the hands on the wheels I often miss the flashing light in the dashboard causing the lane assist to dissengage. Even though I am 100% focused looking forward and having hands on the wheel.
I thinkTesla is going to have to add radar or some cheaper,smaller form of lidar before they reach Level 3 and above. The reason is with the present equipment the car can not distinguish changes in terrain. I would be interested to see if there was a 10 ft'wide sink hole in the road if the Tesla would stop for it. The system struggles with speed bumps and doesn't acknowledge pot-holes at all. The repairs on a Tesla using FSD with the current equipment would be needed far too often.
They used to have radar before but got rid of it. Elon explained this in a few interviews saying that having both info from radar and the cameras messes the system up more than cameras alone; which is initially counter-intuitive but starts making sense once you think of it. Radar and the cameras can be impacted differently by the environment at the same time giving you conflicting information about whether or not you actually have an obstacle in front of you or not. Think of people with motion sickness in the cabin of a boat. Their eyes tell them: I'm in a room, standing and not moving. Their inner ear tells them: I'm moving up and down (due to the waves on the ocean for example). Human brain interprets that as: Vision says: I'm standing still. Inner ear says I'm moving, my senses are providing me with conflicting information, I might have been poisoned! Quick, throw up! I'm over-simplifying here, but that's roughly a very bare-bones way of looking at your sense of percetion of the world around you. Going back to electric car vision: When you mix in info from LIDAR, radar, and cameras all at once, you get potential conflicts of input so then the car is stuck breaking when it doesn't have to etc. So getting rid of LIDAR and radar and just making camera vision incredibly accurate starts making more and more sense once you factor all of this in. And yes, Waymo, Cruise, etc use a combination of the above but that's because they work only in geo-fenced areas where someone needs to map out the streets in high detail in advance and any changes the the road layout (such as during road construction, will typically need to be remapped for the system not to mess up). It's a very different way of applying self-driving. So those other compnies need all those sensors to confirm the car is where it thinks it is etc. whereas Tesla doesn't waste time pre-mapping stuff. It focuses on understanding the world around it in real time. Just as a human does. FSD is not fully here yet, but getting closer each passing day.
@@jasonk125 More data IS better if it compounds on itself. i.e.: 20 cars driving on the same road and realizing that there are speed bumbs there or pot holes. I was cringing a little when the video showed the Tesla taking on those speed bumps faster than I would have. But, if you watch Tesla's investor day presentation from earlier this year, specifically at timestamp 1:14:00 they talk about Models S & Xs eventually being able to raise their suspension when they would approach "rough road conditions" as shared by the fleet. Currently they only ran this in shadow mode so the cars can learn. But you'd be able to do something similar telling the car to slow down if you don't have the higher-end models with fully adjustable air suspension for example. So there more data = good. More data can be bad however if radar says: STOP! obstacle ahead while the cameras say: nah, it's just leaves being blown by the wind or whatever. I'm not saying that they'll never go back to using radar in combination with cameras, I was just mentioning what Elon has said in a few recent interviews as to why they got rid of radar and decided to stick to cameras alone. His explanation of data potentially providing conflicting info from the various sensors and as a result hindering FSD more than helping it under certain conditions made sense. To your earlier point, radar would likely help with a sickhole that just got formed but the statistical likelyhood of someone being confronted with a sinkhole vs the potential daily occurances of "false positives" by the extra sensors sealed the deal for them IMO. Hopefully with enough training the cameras alone will be sufficient to figure out that sinkhole = stop and not need radar to figure that one out. Time will tell I guess.
@@jasonk125 I'm not an Elan fan boy if that's what you're implying. There's a lot that he has done right and a whole bunch that is rather questionable. That being said the initial question asked above was whether Tesla would need some form of radar or LIDAR to get level 3 approval and I simply pointed out what Elon has mentioned. Which to me, made sense. Now, as stated above, Waymo and Cruise went with all the sensor because they're using a very different approach to self-driving. From my understanding, they operate in very limited areas. Those cars might as well be individual team cars on invisible rails based on all of the high resolution premapping that appears to be needed for them to operate in any location at the present moment. Does that mean that they won't be able to figure out a solution that would make things easier to implement at some point down the line. Not at all. They might figure it out next week or a decade from now. I have no idea. Point is, they have one approach to self driving,Tesla, another. Tesla's seems to be a much more generalized approach. They're going with the "teach a man to fish way" while Waymo & co are much more the "give a man a fish" approach at present. You can set a Tesla on most roads and it'll be pretty decent at figuring out what's a car what's a truck, what's a lane divider and what's a pedestrian. Not so with Waymo & co outside their very limited geofenced areas. Doesn't mean that there won't be other competitors coming up with their own version of self driving using different approaches. Competition is good in the industry. Is FSD version 11.4.6 perfect? Nope. Is it better than prior versions? You betcha! Will Tesla have to go back to using some radar in the future, not very likely based on recent statements but hey, maybe they'll figure something else out at some point where it makes sense to have radar again. Point of new tech is to keep pushing the envelope and try to figure out the most efficient way to do things while still maintaining & ideally exceeding safety standards. And yes, there have been some crashes linked to autopilot etc, but there have been accidents involving Waymo as well. The real question is: Are these solutions any safer than giving a novice 16-year old driver a 2 ton machine and waving them off from the side of the road. Or even a professional driver with decades of experience. Over 1 million people die in car accidents yearly world wide. So whether it's Waymo or Tesla that come up with a way to lower those stats, I think that's a net positive for humanity. Just that right now, in my view Tesla seems to be quite a ways ahead of the competition when it comes to a GENERALIZED solution for self driving. And one of the reasons for this is because they've said they're focusing on cameras only input but boosting the AI component so the car learns instead of following invisible guideposts on prescanned roads. Is it the most efficient way of doing things? I have no clue, but seems to be working so far...
For the most part, I have doubts about the more data execuse as well. I think it's mostly about cost. At one point Sandy Munro recommended flir radar which has advantages over other kinds of radar technology, but I think Tesla sees not just cost limitations, but physical integration issues. As far as confusion of the software, using human analogies aren't the best analogies because it takes a lot longer for a human to get use to conflicting stimulus versus a machine, and once it has learned it doesn't forget as easily.
@@Windstorm7x7-wl8ko Oh for sure cost and especially speed of assembly are significant factors for Tesla. As Musk likes to say "the best part is no part". Not sure how much of Tesla's statements regarding the conflicting information are genuine vs simply an excuse to eliminate an expensive set of components that they may deem superfluous. At the end of the day if the cameras, and more importantly the AI, hooked up to said cameras is good enough to be safer than most humans I'd have no issues with Tesla never going back to some form of radar again. If it turns out that having some basic flir radar improves safety or use cases as Sandy had suggested, then that's a different story altogether. As I said in an earlier post: As long as FSD is safer than a human driver, whether we're using Tesla's approach or Waymo's, or even some other company's, or a combination thereof, it's all good in my book. I don't have sufficient insider knowledge of how Tesla's FSD operates on the backend in order to tell you with absolute certainty whether Musk's assertions were mere excuses for them to make their cars cheaper by removing radar or if it's true that it was in fact impeding their AI's progress by providing conflicting data. The explanation provided seems to make sense but some may choose to be more skeptical. Musk is no stranger to having overly optimistic timelines or, at times, "inventing" 100-year old technology after all. I chose to believe his assertion about Tesla's approach to FSD but I can see how many may question parts of it. Time will tell I guess.
The only problem is snow. Since they took the radar out, I am not convinced they are going to achieve full autonomy. In order to get autonomy you really need something that can pierce through the snow to see on coming traffic and map the edges of the road. White-out will really confuse an AI.
I cant wait for this to start in other countries (like Mexico and south America) where driving is… lets say, more chaotic. The potential for the AI to learn in these places is something else
A question : do the car actually SEE dogs ? As they don't seem to be displayed on the screen. So if it was a dog alone that cross the road , would the car stop either to avoid bump into it , and kill it ? Thank you .
Don't you have to hold on to the steering wheel to have some grip ? Tesla always alerts if you don't have your hands on the wheel after a few seconds ?
No. Lidar is to confirm an object obstructing. Tesla is working off machine vision. The car is interpreting what it sees. We, humans do not have lidar and we drive just fine. So the car is given general solutions to driving with what it sees gaining experience from human interactions. We look and our brains keep track of what is going on around us and for the most part we do just fine except when we are tired, sleepy, impaired etc. This car is more like an insects compound eye. It sees everything all at once. Some things I wish it would do better but that is what the updates are for.
Your 3-free months of FSD offer near the end of the video: I just ordered a Model Y (literally yesterday online) and will pick it up on Monday. How can I take advantage of this offer at this point?
Thanks for mentioning those of us that are still stuck on 11.3.6. From Being a Beta Tester to having one build to use for 4+ months. Don't get me wrong this version is good but I'm looking forward to being able to test the new branches as they are released.
Will my vision based 2023 Model Y be able to do this, if I spend $15K. And will it do this if I try for few months as subscription ? There is no summons, auto park right now 😕
I just bought the 2023 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range RWD and they don’t have the ultra sonic sensors anymore. Strictly vision based FSD. I’m not sure it can drive as safely as ones with them.
I'm curious as to how far Tesla will allow customizability for the driver's personal preferences when it comes to things like speed bumps (it goes over them WAY too quickly in this video for taste), how quickly the vehicle slows down, accelerates, changes lanes, and so forth.
With this new version comming out, is there anything you can do software wise to update or upgrade the older model version software to operate about similar level to the 11.4.6 without replacing the vehicle hardware. Or it is just about the hardware and software thing, you can not seperate those 2 things?
I find this impressive. But I'm not in the US. Where I drive I have to turn off every safety feature of the Tesla because it thinks I will either drive into oncoming traffic or leave the road avoiding them. So it either slams on the brakes (while beeping at max volume) or tries to steer to the left (while beeping at max volume). I see how it works in the US. I want to see it work where I drive.
I'm at 11.4.4. Looking forward to the next update. Still have to touch the steering wheel and auto steering wants to stop at every single light if you don't engage the pedal.
I’m the biggest Tesla fan out there but do this same drive during crazy rush hour traffic. We need to see the warts in order to know where it needs to improve.
Before you crested the hill at 8:21, It seems the car already knows it's going to be a left with the visualization. I wonder if it just created that visualization off of the general nav data, or if it's doing some HD mapping when it can?
I also have a problem wanting running into the gate in my neighborhood entrance. It never stops even if just the arm or both the arm and the gate closed.
Thanks great Video 👍. Are you on hardware 3 or is it a new Y? I have heard that people with fsd and hardware 3 won't be able to retrofit hardware 4 - so the chances of them actually getting full fsd in their hardware 3 cars are slim. Doesn't that make it a bit of a rip off for these people who spent all that money and will probably never receive the full product..?
I think your referral code is awesome, but how do I get a trial of FSD since I already own a 2023 Y that I got in March? I bought a Tesla because somehow I developed a phobia of tall bridges but I can’t afford to try FSD. I honestly thought my new car would come with at least one free month so that I could try it before I buy it. But nope! Great videos btw.
You must have a special version (Elon's mode?). It doesn't even have the steering nag. I'm on 11.4.4 and it is baaaaad. Always turning into turn lanes when it is supposed to navigate straight. Just today, it got into the left turn lane when the turn was supposed to be to the right. Don't get me wrong it's come a long way and your iteration seems perfect; still I wonder what really happened on your last video that you ended it so abruptly before that left turn.
That's amazing to see, especially that woman crossing the street when the Tesla was ready to accelerate! What is the legal situation like in SF, if something would happen, e.g. someone running a red light, making the Tesla hit a pedestrian as a result? Is SF designated as an area allowing experimental FSD for cars owned by private persons, not companies?
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Great camera and lighting. Seeing the entire steering wheel and petals is confirming.
Petals are on flowers.
Wow!!! A U-turn is Amazing, including slowing down for speed bumps can also recognize objects/debris off side of the roads and highway! Telsa Team is doing an Awesome Job please keep it up!!!
Would it detect/see a speed hump that doesn't have any painted markings on it?
Thanks for the 11.4.6 driving experience update. Still on 11.4.4 and hopefully getting 11.4.6 OTA soon. Totally agree with your optimism. Tesla for the FSD win!
Good stuff I love your High level analysis during the drive. I don't know why more people don't think about this stuff and understand the huge changes to our world this will bring.
Watching and liked in advance because of the commentary ❤
i like it so much more with Commentary or street noise. 🖖
I don't yet own a Tesla, but your video makes me want to get one. Just not the time to make that switch yet, but my next car will be a Tesla. Great video! This is the advertising that Tesla needs.
We just bought a new 2023 Model Y and have never looked back. If cost is an issue holding you back I understand but if not go for it! You, too, will never look back. EV4LIFE!!!😊
With incentives and rebates, if you live in California, you can actually get some models below $15,000 at the end of the day!
I work in the automobile industry and I have an electric vehicle since 3 years now. Your FSD video was a huge surprise and wake up for me. I will certainly be sharing this with my friends and colleagues who have similar interest than me. I am even more sure I want a Tesla Model Y now...
Thank you
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I can't wait to be able to put in my destination in the evening, go to sleep and wake up 8 hours later up north at my cottage ready for the day. What a time to be alive. Great vid cheers !
Amazing!!! Never seen anything this good before with FSD. Thanks for posting
The most sensible fsd hero, and love you twitter feed. Thanks Omar 😊
How come it’s not asking you to touch the steering wheel? I have fsd on both my x and 3 but it asks me to touch my steering wheel every few minutes
I love these commentaries, Omar
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Such a trip to see the representation of a person or car on the display and then about 2s later you see the actual thing out the windows!
Omar
This is your most profound video at such an extraordinary moment in history
Thank you for the commentary!!! I have missed it seriously!!!
Impressive drive and great information!
This is got to be level 3 self driving.
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Tesla just need to announce that they will take the responsibility when accident happens during FSD operation.
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See and there Is the problem!
That will never happen !
Thank you sharing, mate.
The Tesla picking up the lady walking her dog before you did is exciting knowing that eventually other car manufactures will pick up this technology or similar and this will be the norm. Eventually there will be "better" drivers on the road thanks to this pioneering!
This won't take long in my opinion. The FSD is a general solution type driving similar to the way we drive. So as long as the lane markers are good you should be okay. FSD will likely be licensed by the other manufacturers or they will get smoked in terms of competition.
You don't have to fondle the steering wheel anymore during FSD?
How can you get away with not holding the wheel?
Question:how do you do that without touching the wheel? I thought you had to.
Someone please answer this question.
Yes, why is there no nagging?
3:17. I'm requesting 11.4.7 to initiate as an option (yes or no) FSD Voice intent. In this situation, have the FSD say (like Navi does), "Waiting for Pedestrian to cross". Passengers/Driver inside Tesla know the car's action 1-2 second prior giving them sense of comfort and trust in FSD. This will lead to rapid adoption of FSD.
Ab Also enjoy the commentary.solutely amazing.
Great video! Time to jump in my Tesla, engage FSD, and travel 20 miles to my morning appointment.
Why didnt the car give you the NAG screen for never touching the wheel?
I definitely agree with your thoughts. Great video. Love the visual layout of the instruments.👍
Do not have issues with FSD because you’re in a city that a lot of the employees test it?
Very different experience for those of us still on 11.3.6. Hope Tesla can push out 11.4.6 soon to masses
So it never asked you to put your hands on the steering?
Omar: "Everybody has an electric car now"
Me: "Ok, I'll go cry in broke af over in that corner."
This is why I have 17 shares in this company. Will be buying more.
Thank you very much for your insights and your vision of the future. Thanks to people like you, the world makes progress. AI is our greatest ally, and we still haven't fully unlocked its potential. I don't understand how some see it as their enemy.
Because with absolutely no caution it could become our greatest enemy but if we're careful it will become humanity's biggest achievement
@@15Stratos I totally agree with you!
How can you not touch the steering wheel on FSD? I'm a single hand driver. My MS goes bonkers if I take my second hand out to strach my head & keep prompting me to have two hands on the wheel let alone one!
I’m on 11.3.6 and quite frankly it’s really bad at times but also very good at other times. I’m looking forward to getting the software updates at some point.
Sometimes you can force an update. I was able to do it on my model 3. You press both scroll buttons on steering wheel down and hold it for a few seconds. Do this when you have the car on Wifi. Then when the car boots up it will recheck for latest software. It took me a few tries but it worked. My older tesla is having a bit of trouble getting off 11.3.6. Eventually it will get released. I am with you 11.3.6 is a bit jerky at times. 11.4.4 is better but there are some things 11.3.6 did better. Subtle things like picking up a lane that you want to merge into say to turn right off the highway. I have to constantly look to make sure idiot behind me (tailgater) isn't going to cut the car off.
wow blown away by fsd, i travel 500km a week for work and having fsd would literally make my roadtrips easier an safer. im getting close to my savings goal for a model 3. hopefully will buy one some day soon.
I also just noticed. Does the car on 11.4.6 no longer ask for steering input nudges?
6:22 how is Tesla gonna deliver a perfect fsd by the end of the year ? Serious question.
Thankx Omar! Can’t wait to try it out in Europe!
Outstanding video and comments... Thanks for sharing. I'm impressed
Why are you not getting the steering wheel nag? I get it every 30 seconds on 11.4.4
Why is no one answering how is he not having to touch the wheel?
bro read the title of the video
Cause god is driving it cause he deserves more likes and subs
How many no intervention drives in a row would you say you have seen? How does it compare with Waymo and Cruise both doing 10,000 such drives in a row per week? I can't get my model 3 to do such a drive yet in silicon valley, but I am hoping it will some day.
I do not think it is reasonable to compare limited coverage, geo-fenced services such as Waymo and Cruise with something like Tesla which operates everywhere under all conditions.
@@DavidJao True, the Teslas are quite limited because of their lack of defined service area. Odd that people think that's some sort of advantage. The other companies don't want to make their cars drive on all streets for very good reasons. They could easily do it -- and a fair bit better than Tesla. They choose not to. What is strange is that so many folks, like yourself, see it as some sort of issue, as though mapping is the really hard problem, and driving safely in the first place is the easy one. That's backwards. Teslas don't self-drive everywhere, they can't self-drive anywhere. Self-drive doesn't mean pull off a few trips without a problem. It means pull off every trip, tens of thousands of them in a row, without a problem. It is odd that people don't see this. I would not get in my Tesla with nobody behind the wheel anywhere. Anywhere. Many tens of thousands of people are doing that every week in vehicles of Waymo, Cruise, AutoX, Baidu, WeRide and Pony.
@@bradtem Reality will prove you wrong. The other companies absolutely cannot drive everywhere or they would have done so already. Tesla is demonstrably 10 times statistically safer than unassisted human driving. Tesla has 100 times more miles of driving data than all the other companies combined because of their general purpose approach. Lastly, but far from least, Tesla is the only product in this category that regular people can buy today.
@@DavidJaoYeah too bad it's Tesla. It's like apple in 2010, other companies will catch up over time. If we are willing to give tesla time to develop, we should give other companies time to catch up. But buying proprietary tech like this and allowing a company to become a monopoly will lead to no innovation in the future.
What impresses me about Tesla isn't the self driving. It's the self driving anywhere. Others have a geographic area they can work in, but Telsa works in the entire country.
I got a question; since you mention "around the country", how does this system handle a road trip where you definitely must charge 1 time before destination? It would be cool if you could show this visualization of the car bringing you there and continuing after charge.
I recently took my first road trip from North Carolina to Maryland and 11.3.6 was an absolute dream. Zero disengagements and the only interventions were those last few hundred feet where I had to manually pull into the parking lots to charge. It was the same for the return trip where I took a complete different route. My car is a 2019 Dual Motor M3 with the hardware 3.0 retrofit.
@@HydroTECGaming oh great! Thanks for clearing that up.
Tesla Navigation maps automatically adds needed charging stops whenever you navigate to a destination that is too far away. FSD currently does not handle most parkng lots and will not automatically pull you into a parking space. But i will take you pretty close to the supechargers. You need to pull up to an available spot and back in (it may be able to autopark once you lined up to a spot, but it is not using FSD to do so, just the normal autopark at this time)
Wait do you not need to touch the wheel every so often anymore?
Amazing
Great video
Thanks for posting
Another great video! Can’t wait for my FSD to become available on my new MS Plaid I got 2 months ago!
Cool video, I'm located in europe and the FSD does not work over here. Its more like a very good lane assist.
But does it not require any "hands on the wheel" any longer? I hate the nagging we have to handle. Even though I have the hands on the wheels I often miss the flashing light in the dashboard causing the lane assist to dissengage. Even though I am 100% focused looking forward and having hands on the wheel.
Yes! Stunning… so awesome. Thanks
I thinkTesla is going to have to add radar or some cheaper,smaller form of lidar before they reach Level 3 and above.
The reason is with the present equipment the car can not distinguish changes in terrain.
I would be interested to see if there was a 10 ft'wide sink hole in the road if the Tesla would stop for it.
The system struggles with speed bumps and doesn't acknowledge pot-holes at all.
The repairs on a Tesla using FSD with the current equipment would be needed far too often.
They used to have radar before but got rid of it. Elon explained this in a few interviews saying that having both info from radar and the cameras messes the system up more than cameras alone; which is initially counter-intuitive but starts making sense once you think of it. Radar and the cameras can be impacted differently by the environment at the same time giving you conflicting information about whether or not you actually have an obstacle in front of you or not. Think of people with motion sickness in the cabin of a boat. Their eyes tell them: I'm in a room, standing and not moving. Their inner ear tells them: I'm moving up and down (due to the waves on the ocean for example). Human brain interprets that as: Vision says: I'm standing still. Inner ear says I'm moving, my senses are providing me with conflicting information, I might have been poisoned! Quick, throw up! I'm over-simplifying here, but that's roughly a very bare-bones way of looking at your sense of percetion of the world around you.
Going back to electric car vision: When you mix in info from LIDAR, radar, and cameras all at once, you get potential conflicts of input so then the car is stuck breaking when it doesn't have to etc. So getting rid of LIDAR and radar and just making camera vision incredibly accurate starts making more and more sense once you factor all of this in. And yes, Waymo, Cruise, etc use a combination of the above but that's because they work only in geo-fenced areas where someone needs to map out the streets in high detail in advance and any changes the the road layout (such as during road construction, will typically need to be remapped for the system not to mess up). It's a very different way of applying self-driving. So those other compnies need all those sensors to confirm the car is where it thinks it is etc. whereas Tesla doesn't waste time pre-mapping stuff. It focuses on understanding the world around it in real time. Just as a human does. FSD is not fully here yet, but getting closer each passing day.
@@jasonk125 More data IS better if it compounds on itself. i.e.: 20 cars driving on the same road and realizing that there are speed bumbs there or pot holes. I was cringing a little when the video showed the Tesla taking on those speed bumps faster than I would have. But, if you watch Tesla's investor day presentation from earlier this year, specifically at timestamp 1:14:00 they talk about Models S & Xs eventually being able to raise their suspension when they would approach "rough road conditions" as shared by the fleet. Currently they only ran this in shadow mode so the cars can learn. But you'd be able to do something similar telling the car to slow down if you don't have the higher-end models with fully adjustable air suspension for example. So there more data = good.
More data can be bad however if radar says: STOP! obstacle ahead while the cameras say: nah, it's just leaves being blown by the wind or whatever. I'm not saying that they'll never go back to using radar in combination with cameras, I was just mentioning what Elon has said in a few recent interviews as to why they got rid of radar and decided to stick to cameras alone. His explanation of data potentially providing conflicting info from the various sensors and as a result hindering FSD more than helping it under certain conditions made sense.
To your earlier point, radar would likely help with a sickhole that just got formed but the statistical likelyhood of someone being confronted with a sinkhole vs the potential daily occurances of "false positives" by the extra sensors sealed the deal for them IMO. Hopefully with enough training the cameras alone will be sufficient to figure out that sinkhole = stop and not need radar to figure that one out. Time will tell I guess.
@@jasonk125 I'm not an Elan fan boy if that's what you're implying. There's a lot that he has done right and a whole bunch that is rather questionable. That being said the initial question asked above was whether Tesla would need some form of radar or LIDAR to get level 3 approval and I simply pointed out what Elon has mentioned. Which to me, made sense. Now, as stated above, Waymo and Cruise went with all the sensor because they're using a very different approach to self-driving. From my understanding, they operate in very limited areas. Those cars might as well be individual team cars on invisible rails based on all of the high resolution premapping that appears to be needed for them to operate in any location at the present moment. Does that mean that they won't be able to figure out a solution that would make things easier to implement at some point down the line. Not at all. They might figure it out next week or a decade from now. I have no idea. Point is, they have one approach to self driving,Tesla, another. Tesla's seems to be a much more generalized approach. They're going with the "teach a man to fish way" while Waymo & co are much more the "give a man a fish" approach at present. You can set a Tesla on most roads and it'll be pretty decent at figuring out what's a car what's a truck, what's a lane divider and what's a pedestrian. Not so with Waymo & co outside their very limited geofenced areas. Doesn't mean that there won't be other competitors coming up with their own version of self driving using different approaches. Competition is good in the industry. Is FSD version 11.4.6 perfect? Nope. Is it better than prior versions? You betcha! Will Tesla have to go back to using some radar in the future, not very likely based on recent statements but hey, maybe they'll figure something else out at some point where it makes sense to have radar again. Point of new tech is to keep pushing the envelope and try to figure out the most efficient way to do things while still maintaining & ideally exceeding safety standards. And yes, there have been some crashes linked to autopilot etc, but there have been accidents involving Waymo as well. The real question is: Are these solutions any safer than giving a novice 16-year old driver a 2 ton machine and waving them off from the side of the road. Or even a professional driver with decades of experience. Over 1 million people die in car accidents yearly world wide. So whether it's Waymo or Tesla that come up with a way to lower those stats, I think that's a net positive for humanity. Just that right now, in my view Tesla seems to be quite a ways ahead of the competition when it comes to a GENERALIZED solution for self driving. And one of the reasons for this is because they've said they're focusing on cameras only input but boosting the AI component so the car learns instead of following invisible guideposts on prescanned roads. Is it the most efficient way of doing things? I have no clue, but seems to be working so far...
For the most part, I have doubts about the more data execuse as well. I think it's mostly about cost. At one point Sandy Munro recommended flir radar which has advantages over other kinds of radar technology, but I think Tesla sees not just cost limitations, but physical integration issues. As far as confusion of the software, using human analogies aren't the best analogies because it takes a lot longer for a human to get use to conflicting stimulus versus a machine, and once it has learned it doesn't forget as easily.
@@Windstorm7x7-wl8ko Oh for sure cost and especially speed of assembly are significant factors for Tesla. As Musk likes to say "the best part is no part". Not sure how much of Tesla's statements regarding the conflicting information are genuine vs simply an excuse to eliminate an expensive set of components that they may deem superfluous. At the end of the day if the cameras, and more importantly the AI, hooked up to said cameras is good enough to be safer than most humans I'd have no issues with Tesla never going back to some form of radar again. If it turns out that having some basic flir radar improves safety or use cases as Sandy had suggested, then that's a different story altogether. As I said in an earlier post: As long as FSD is safer than a human driver, whether we're using Tesla's approach or Waymo's, or even some other company's, or a combination thereof, it's all good in my book. I don't have sufficient insider knowledge of how Tesla's FSD operates on the backend in order to tell you with absolute certainty whether Musk's assertions were mere excuses for them to make their cars cheaper by removing radar or if it's true that it was in fact impeding their AI's progress by providing conflicting data. The explanation provided seems to make sense but some may choose to be more skeptical. Musk is no stranger to having overly optimistic timelines or, at times, "inventing" 100-year old technology after all. I chose to believe his assertion about Tesla's approach to FSD but I can see how many may question parts of it. Time will tell I guess.
The only problem is snow. Since they took the radar out, I am not convinced they are going to achieve full autonomy. In order to get autonomy you really need something that can pierce through the snow to see on coming traffic and map the edges of the road. White-out will really confuse an AI.
I cant wait for this to start in other countries (like Mexico and south America) where driving is… lets say, more chaotic. The potential for the AI to learn in these places is something else
How come it doesn’t give you the alert to touch your wheel mine does it every 30 seconds or so. I’m kind of confused now because it’s been annoying.
A question : do the car actually SEE dogs ?
As they don't seem to be displayed on the screen.
So if it was a dog alone that cross the road , would the car stop either to avoid bump into it , and kill it ?
Thank you .
How do you get around the nags?
Are the steering wheel nags gone now, or are you just a special case?
Don't you have to hold on to the steering wheel to have some grip ? Tesla always alerts if you don't have your hands on the wheel after a few seconds ?
Wow. Those red lights turned green, right on cue, several times!
wow Do you have hardwar 3 or 4
I have a HW4 MY and I can't wait for beta to be rolled out for us
How cool….not only the FSD drive but the commentary trashing all the FUD news and bears. Keep up the good job 👍. Excellent !!!
wow, this is good! Thanks
Can’t wait to see v12!!
Good stuff, one question how are you not getting nagged?
How are you not being nagged to put hands on the steering wheel? Did i miss it?
I think they’ll have to add radar or LiDAR at some point. Rain, snow, or fog would rlly impact performance if it’s only normal cameras
Lidar does horribly in snow and rain! They're adding high resolution radar and that should do well
@@gcaussade didnt know that ab Lidar. thanks for the info
@@YHWHsamyou’re only thinking of wavelengths humans can see with our eyes. There are many more our meat sack eyes can’t see.
No. Lidar is to confirm an object obstructing. Tesla is working off machine vision. The car is interpreting what it sees. We, humans do not have lidar and we drive just fine. So the car is given general solutions to driving with what it sees gaining experience from human interactions. We look and our brains keep track of what is going on around us and for the most part we do just fine except when we are tired, sleepy, impaired etc. This car is more like an insects compound eye. It sees everything all at once. Some things I wish it would do better but that is what the updates are for.
why? humans can drive anywhere with vision only?
Your 3-free months of FSD offer near the end of the video: I just ordered a Model Y (literally yesterday online) and will pick it up on Monday. How can I take advantage of this offer at this point?
that u turn was a real surprise at the end
why no nag on the steering wheel?
Thanks for mentioning those of us that are still stuck on 11.3.6. From Being a Beta Tester to having one build to use for 4+ months. Don't get me wrong this version is good but I'm looking forward to being able to test the new branches as they are released.
That always was the strangest thing to me.
People paying $15,000 for a feature that they were not ALLOWED to use.
@@danimal107 I'm allowed to use it. I said I'm on v11.3.6 currently.
So how is this FSD when it comes to a gravel Road???
Very nice i must say!
Will my vision based 2023 Model Y be able to do this, if I spend $15K. And will it do this if I try for few months as subscription ?
There is no summons, auto park right now 😕
I just bought the 2023 Tesla Model 3 Standard Range RWD and they don’t have the ultra sonic sensors anymore. Strictly vision based FSD. I’m not sure it can drive as safely as ones with them.
I'm curious as to how far Tesla will allow customizability for the driver's personal preferences when it comes to things like speed bumps (it goes over them WAY too quickly in this video for taste), how quickly the vehicle slows down, accelerates, changes lanes, and so forth.
With this new version comming out, is there anything you can do software wise to update or upgrade the older model version software to operate about similar level to the 11.4.6 without replacing the vehicle hardware. Or it is just about the hardware and software thing, you can not seperate those 2 things?
So I just bought a new MY with a referral so I got 3 months of FSD. Trouble is, I can't turn it on. Do I have to install it?
I find this impressive. But I'm not in the US. Where I drive I have to turn off every safety feature of the Tesla because it thinks I will either drive into oncoming traffic or leave the road avoiding them. So it either slams on the brakes (while beeping at max volume) or tries to steer to the left (while beeping at max volume). I see how it works in the US. I want to see it work where I drive.
Canada has FSD as well. We are about 1-1.5 weeks behind the new releases of the US for some reason.
I'm at 11.4.4. Looking forward to the next update. Still have to touch the steering wheel and auto steering wants to stop at every single light if you don't engage the pedal.
I’m the biggest Tesla fan out there but do this same drive during crazy rush hour traffic. We need to see the warts in order to know where it needs to improve.
If I buy a used 2020 model, should I be able to get access to the newest beta or do older models take longer?
Why do I hear Bladerunnner soundtracks?
Before you crested the hill at 8:21, It seems the car already knows it's going to be a left with the visualization. I wonder if it just created that visualization off of the general nav data, or if it's doing some HD mapping when it can?
What’s the FSD drive setting? Chill, aggressive? It’s driving really well!
I also have a problem wanting running into the gate in my neighborhood entrance. It never stops even if just the arm or both the arm and the gate closed.
Because at four way stops some people don't wait there turn......how does this car know when it's safe/clear to proceed ?
How are you doing this without touching the wheel every few seconds?
Thanks great Video 👍. Are you on hardware 3 or is it a new Y? I have heard that people with fsd and hardware 3 won't be able to retrofit hardware 4 - so the chances of them actually getting full fsd in their hardware 3 cars are slim. Doesn't that make it a bit of a rip off for these people who spent all that money and will probably never receive the full product..?
I think your referral code is awesome, but how do I get a trial of FSD since I already own a 2023 Y that I got in March? I bought a Tesla because somehow I developed a phobia of tall bridges but I can’t afford to try FSD. I honestly thought my new car would come with at least one free month so that I could try it before I buy it. But nope! Great videos btw.
You must have a special version (Elon's mode?). It doesn't even have the steering nag. I'm on 11.4.4 and it is baaaaad. Always turning into turn lanes when it is supposed to navigate straight. Just today, it got into the left turn lane when the turn was supposed to be to the right. Don't get me wrong it's come a long way and your iteration seems perfect; still I wonder what really happened on your last video that you ended it so abruptly before that left turn.
That's amazing to see, especially that woman crossing the street when the Tesla was ready to accelerate! What is the legal situation like in SF, if something would happen, e.g. someone running a red light, making the Tesla hit a pedestrian as a result? Is SF designated as an area allowing experimental FSD for cars owned by private persons, not companies?
why you are not touching the steering wheel
I got warning if I don't hold on to the steering wheel every once in a while
Which year do you have?
So the next Tesla model won’t have a steering wheel or pedals?
wow how long has the steering wheel nag been gone?
It’s mind blowing. Does all this computer power affect the battery in anyway?
What model do you have?
I'm 100% down for it when it happens... not there yet but soon! Just got my first Tesla but will wait on FSD for now :)