Hear hear Doug! I am 80 and have been using it for just this reason. Between the two of us (FSD and me) we are quite good! I just upgraded to HW4 and have lost FSD for a few months until they catch up, and it feels awful. Autopilot is NOT FSD by a long stretch. The new sensors in HW4 are excellent! The vision system calibrated itself on the drive home, and now shows how close things are 360 degrees around the car! It is yet too conservative, leaving a wider margin than ultrasound, but that will improve.
I use FSD every day, almost the whole time I'm in my car. I was heading to dinner with a friend and wanted to show it off, so I turned it on. First thing it does is swerve onto the wrong side of the street and then swing wildly back to the correct side. FSD is amazing 95% of the time, and 5% bonehead moves. For Tesla to claim a GTP moment, they need the bonehead moves to 0%. That doesn't mean perfect, just no egregious mistakes.
Agreed. Although, I must admit that - in my case - more than half the time that I exclaim, “what the heck are you doing?” , the fault turns out to lie with ME. something set incorrectly, or GPS / no GPS when I expected the opposite.
Their moment will be when their lawyers are willing to accept full liability for accidents and issues. Although I’m sure Elon’s army of lawyers will find anyway they can to weasel out of it. “Oh per the car data collected, your tires were 2lbs under inflated” or “records show you hadn’t replaced the wipers in 2 years”, etc,…
dude same EXACT thing happened to me. use it for driving 95% of the time. friend gets in the car, I go to show it off, within 5 seconds it swerves wildly into oncoming traffic. it's like it knows to make you looks bad
Living in Florida, we have millions of snow birds that come down for the winter every year. Most in their 70's, 80's, and 90's. Many who should have stopped driving years ago. I am not kidding when I say that everyone knows someone who was almost run over or was run over on a sidewalk, a parking lot, backed into by someone who could not turn there head to see if anyone was coming. We have had people run over sitting at a bus stop. This could truly save hundreds of lives every winter in this state.
I am 80 in Boston, and love FSD just for this reason. It is now often catching things before I do (pedestrians, bicycles, something out of my field of view), and as I say, "between the two of us," we are pretty good.
Any software engineer can tell you, the last 5% takes 95% of the time to complete. You’re completely underestimating how long it will take to get to 99.9% reliability, which is really when mass adoption will actually happen. The chatGPT moment for Self driving will happen a lot later than AI like chatGPT because chatGPT makes massive errors but it doesn’t kill anyone (at least not directly), so it’s adoption was a lot faster. Nice video though. Keep up the good work for raising awareness for amazing progress we are making on the self driving front.
The immediate goal for FSD is level 4 autonomy which, I believe, Waymo have achieved with their robotaxi's. Level 5 (no steering wheel or pedals) is still some way off.
these AI models may not fit your axiom. Maybe they only need to feed and train on more data increase neural model size which is a question of time. the minimum desired accuracy can be like accident rate lower than 99% of drivers. that means 1% of drivers will prefer to drive themselves
@@bilbo_gamers6417 fair or not, FSD will be held to a much much higher standard for safety than humans. So FSD needs to be several times better than a human before mass adoption. That last few percent is going to take time… everyone underestimates the effort required for the last few percent.
I think that, when Tesla feels FSD is "ready", they will offer a free trial month to anyone who wants it. They will probably get the word out months in advance, and that will be the ChatGPT moment. I have an idea that Tesla should do an "easter egg hunt" where, on a set day and time, FSD can give you the option of an easter egg destination that you won't know until you get there and the place would be some awesome festival. Now that would be pretty cool as a ChatGPT moment.
Thx for not editing out errors made by fsd and just highlighting the good stuff. This video helps us get a real feel of the evolution of fsd. Great job and thx for a great video🙏🏽. New sub..
I'm watching from Japan. In Japan, there are still many engine-powered vehicles, and the day when EVs become popular and the ban on FSD is lifted is far away. I envy countries where I can try advanced technology! Please keep showing us more videos!😊🌈✨
@@Tom_McMurtry You are right. The general perception of EVs among Japanese people is lagging behind because they only tell what is convenient. This situation is unfortunate and frustrating.
@@Doratabi47 it's frustrating watching the demise of once great and we'll trusted brands like Toyota due to apathy and resistence to change from this Westerners point of view. I can only imagine what it's like in the inside of Japan observing this while few around you realize at this point the trouble these brands are in.
@@Tom_McMurtryIt's the same here in Europe. FSD is far to be seen here in France, because of the silly gvt directives, damnit. I just WANT to be driven from a point A to a point B without being exhausted at the end of the trip. I just HATE to drive by myself, it's a pain in the ass for me ( really , physically , i have some back pain if i stay too long in a driver position ).
Thanks for this, Omar. Your narrative was incredibly informative and relevant. I'm blown away with the generic Autopilot on my 1-month old MYLR. FSD will be an absolute game changer.
Apparently it may be released in Australia in a few months. Autopilot costs $AU5,000 and FSD is another $AU5,000 on top of that which in $US3,250, $US3,250 which is a bargain compared to $US6,000 and $US15,000 ($AU9,250 and $AU23,000 respectively!!!). Almost makes me want to buy a Tesla now before the price inevitably jumps when FSD is released here (Australia).
Probably not in The Netherlands! We have more then only cars in traffic here. Also using a phone in a car (or on a bicycle) here will result in a huge fine. 👍 GPT is not magic, it's just 'next token' prediction.
Part of the general awareness issue of the progress of FSD is that a Tesla in full self driving mode looks just like every other Tesla on the road. It does not look like any other autonomous vehicle with LiDAR and lots of external equipment. I am tempted to get car magnet signs that say, “Full self driving vehicle in training” just a point out the fact that my car is actually driving itself most of the time.
As an engineer, camera based driving is correct 99.9% of the time, LiDAR based driving is correct 99.999% of the time, the question is whether that 0.01% difference can result in a crash over a lifetime..
I live in Europe. I can’t wait for this software to replace the standard autopilot. It seems to be much better when lines change or cars are parked in the side of the street etc. Also sign recognition is not working in Europe, so we hope this new software will incorporate that as well.
How's the full auto handling night driving these days? Or extended drive legs into the morning sun? I assume there is a high dependency on the cameras' imputs. Obviously certain driving conditions can impede or practically eliminate those inputs.
…. Or the first day What is it, a million FSDb miles per day already? And growing fast. The latest versions are sooo much better than all previous ones, that most users are turning it on EVERY time, versus only when they had time to closely supervise. I’m allowing an extra half hour - for FSDb - to get to work, and keep getting there early. She handles everything - practically like a pro -, except parking lot gates, and major airport construction. ❤ my chauffeur Katie !
@@GoldenTV3 They rely wholly on pre-mapping every mile which is why they can't drive outside of those pre-drawn digital rails. Tesla, on the other hand, is not autonomous until they can rack up miles without anyone in the driver seat. So not autonomous yet, but when they get there, the shortcuts taken by everyone else will be undeniably clear as these others struggle for tiny pre-mapped postage stamps on the map driving in parts of a few cities and avoiding freeways.
Oh a question! I see in Berlin we very very often have those conditional street signs. For example, speed "30" but only between 22pm-7am. How would FSD handle that? OCR? Map data?
Thank you for this video. I was never a Tesla fan but I have been researching Tesla for my 83 year old dad. He ran a red light and crashed last year because he didn't see the light. Can I buy the model 6 with FSD now and use it?
Thanks for the video. I just got the 2023 model Y long range but do not have FSD at this time. Really enjoy the vehicle. I have not tried the basic auto pilot yet, but soon I will. Still watching many FSD tester videos to see how it going with each update you get. You know more about if the latest FSD and how much it has improved over past versions. We are just observers and just get an idea how well it performs, so I don't say any critical things about FSD. I am amazed what it can do right now and as time goes on and data collected from each of you, FSD will continue to get better. When it will reach level 4 or 5 remains to be seen, but they will get there sometime in the future. Take care.
I'm baffled by videos on RUclips demonstrating how good FSD is while in my personal experience it struggles quite a bit in my area, making wrong lane decision, getting scared of other vehicles on narrow narrow roads, etc
@@davidbeppler3032 FSD and autopilot are 2 different programs with different lines of code. My FSD experience has been similar to @fparent - I use it only when there are no cars on the road, and mainly to see if it's gotten better. Of the 3 people I know in person with FSD, none of them use it regularly due to the inconsistency.
@@davidbeppler3032 FSD is definitely superior to Autopilot, no doubt in my mind. I'm just relating that my experience with FSD isn't matching what's reported here and elsewhere.
BRILLIANT WORK!!!! I thought it was being hesitant at beginning of the video but I was wrong. We [mainly] humans are speeding all of the time!!! I enjoyed the honesty of the video. It is a work in progress but that progress is FAST!!!!! Loved the Boy/ Girl racer in the tuned car at 18:25 overtaking on the inside lane!! A human driver namely me would probably speed up to wind them up. 19:05 crossed a red light thanks to human-ish error! Stopped at destination without indicating or putting hazard lights on... But this is actually AMAZING. It's a driverless car!!!! From driving with a person in front of your car literally waving a red flag to the car driving itself in around 100 years!!!!! BRAVO TEAM!!!!! Btw 7:07 and 9:4111:0111:11 - Illegal overtake on inside lane ... Anomaly at 13:0513:15 ... 13:22 veering into oncoming traffic!!!!! #RedFlag ("That was interesting" - Good euphemism!!! :) #ONWARDSANDFORWARDS!!!
Please for the love of god mute your notifications while making a video, i checked my phone and watch multiple times during the video and thought i was going crazy 😂😂 Edit: you did it in the middle of the video thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Love the thought provoking commentary. The comparison to the ChatGPT public awareness “moment” should not be ignored by TSLA investors… look at how the world is rushing to invest in AI… we’re already in!
we can't guess how much of fsd is already baked into TSLA stock price. You don't know , I don't know etc. But it will get closer to NVDA's PE soon (ish)
So why is your car not constantly reminding you to put your hands on the wheel? I have FSD for over a year never kicked off and my car consistently reminds me to put my hands on the steering wheel so what are you doing differently
Two stories: 1) I once hit and killed a dog because my focus was on a dog on the opposite side of the road whose owner was having difficulty managing. 2) on a second occurance, I had a deer bound across the road in front of me. While I watched carefully where the deer came from and was able to continue, the second deer (that is nearly always there) landed on the hood of the car behind me as that driver paid attention to where the 1st deer went. In both stories, an autonomous car would have been aware of the full surroundings, not just on what caught its attention.
I agree with the overwhelming majority of what you expressed in this video. You are absolutely correct. This invention is, in my opinion, one of the most fascinating creations ever in computer science. Now, a bit about my 'Tesla story.' I live in Toronto, Canada, and I purchased my Tesla Model 3 RWD four weeks ago. It came with three months of FSD (free due to the referral program), and I'm absolutely loving it! I use FSD every single time I step into the car. While it's not flawless-especially version 11.3.6-it's still incredibly impressive and good. Many times, I'm astonished by the human-like behavior that's built into the AI. I'm hoping that by the time my three-month trial expires, FSD subscriptions will be available in Canada. Once again, a fantastic video with great information!
Yes, I noticed that too. I have to keep a little pressure on the steering wheel every 15 seconds with my 2018 Model X. Why are you not holding onto steering wheel? Did you jury rig your wheel or are does latest update allow you to do this?
Thank you for this great video. I purchased my new model 3 with FSD in 2021. I have to keep my hands on the wheel a lot, or the blue light flashes and could disconnect. I wonder how you hardly had to have your hands on the wheel. Do you have a different version. I did purchase FSD. Thanks for your help
I had to look close and pause the video, but it looks like the speed limit is 45mph, and the immediate next 25mph sign has a TRUCK sign above it. So, I think the 25mph sign only applies to trucks because the road is going down a steep grade.
Thanks for the video. Very interesting. Do not drive in Paris France! The computer will be overwhelmed 😉😊 (scooters and motorcycle between lanes, car, trucks, bicycle, electric scooter, pedestrian and so on... 😅 ) Greetings from France
Great Video! Tesla stock has been in correction since Nov 2021, it will Bottom around 55$ likely in MID October After that I am sure Tesla will then Unleash Many amazing updates across the board, end of 2023 into 2024 will be cool
Interesting little "brain-fart"(not sure what else to call it😅) in the 14 minute range. I took it as an interesting look at what it does when it gets confused. On that note - it is kind of a positive. You were safe, it redirected itself, all was good. Much like a human turning too soon or in the wrong place, re-re-rethinking where it is and how to get back on track. It responded in a human-like think mode. Kinda cool. Love your rides and narration. Thanks!
Ever wonder why Elon Musk routinely comments on Mr. mars X (Twitter) feed? Without Omar mentioning him? Well, Omar has different code than the rest of us beta users who paid $15k for something promised to work as Elon promoted. Mars is special. He and other special people who make money promoting what is still as of today a fantasy for rest of us, are allowed to have the OBD device that “stimulates” simulated wheel movement so no hands are needed. Also, even more special elite have the wheel movement requirement turned off, with attenuated interior camera monitoring. That is how this works. Free your mind, Neo.. You are close by asking this question. Get free of the Mr. musk Tesla matrix. :)
PLEASE explain why you have no steering wheel nag. Are you on a special program with Tesla or are you using your legs to provide the torque or some other hidden work around?
I have 11.4.4 on a 2020 X. How do you get it to drive without you frigging the steering wheel every 15 sec? Are you on an employees-only build? I don't frequent this forum (loads and loads of noise!) so sorry if this has been asked a thousand times before.
What model Tesla? still hardware 3 you have? , great progress, even though I don't have the FSD package, I wish I could see that amount of detail on my screen of the surroundings like you see with the FSD add on and full screen views.
Omar, how is it you drove the entire route without your hand on the wheel and only got a Flashing blue warning when demonstrating the Cabin Camera “Pay attention warning “?
You have nice, flat roads with clear lines to guide you. What will it do in countries were at least half of all the roads are very bumpy with no clear lines, gravel and solid ice and snow 6 months every year?
Hey, question: What is the energy consumption when on auto? Let's say, you were to drive 200 miles with and without auto - what would be the difference? Could you check it?
An average driver has 3-4 accidents in their lifetime, so 1 in about every 18 years. How many do u think FSD would have without ANY human intervention? I don’t think FSD is even close to an average human with a driver’s license.
you are right. But to be fair, keep in mind you make many mistakes for each time you make a mistake that causes an accident. In the video, FSD makes maybe 3 major mistakes. None would or did cause an accident however.
@@mikecounsell with the current rate of progress do u see it being even close to an avg human driver (which is 1 accident / 18 years of driving) by the end of the year. Forget the marching of the 9s, will there be a first 9?
I have a PhD in CS, so I do have some domain knowledge. I do believe a vision-only solution is NOT the best way to go for level 3 or above autonomous driving.
A lot of places do not have lane lines, and some places have lane lines only in the summer warm months. Snowfall and Downpour rain, more inaccuracies ? Still, loved this video, and it does show the advances that have been made. I am a TCP SUV Limo Driver, drive a and 2021 Suburban Premier. I use Android Auto with my Samsung Phones, Google Maps. The Software does tell me " Keep Eyes on the Road , Don't text and Drive" and other things. Other time I was driving from Sacramento back to Marin County late at night with very little autos on the road. I drove FAST. The next morning, on my screen , " Your recent speed was excessive. Slow Down" - which caught me - but now, I think these systems are making me a better driver! For me to make me consider an Electric vehicle is the ability to have an large EV, three rows of seats, and buy 2 of them, so one is always charging. 400 miles range ( not 325 ) is needed. Thanks for your video.
They should remove the cabin camera, not go all in on it. We were sold the idea what we could be watching netflix and playing steam while our cars drive, but now we can't even check a text message in our full self driving cars? The pay attention warning shouldn't be there. It should only beep when there is construction, emergency lights or odd situations.
Being a Tesla owner for over 6 years, I feel that FSD and electric cars in general, will go down in history as one of the biggest technical and environmental scams in history…
7:19 He’s got a point whoever said most are driving drunk or distracted because no car ever - ice or EV ever had had a drunken or distracted driver at he wheel🤦♂️
I would like to see tests of FSD in NY or more complex areas of Los Angeles. I live in LA, and FSD is constantly making bad lane choices. One example is some streets have parking in the right lane for certain hours of the day, but FSD disregards this and will sometimes choose the right lane when there are parked cars in its chosen driving path. Other times, FSD doesn't have the best awareness of left/right turn only lanes. I think FSD works well in some situations, but needs a TON of improvement in more complex situations.
I noticed a couple of driving mistakes by the FSD software.. 1) Changed lanes in an intersection 2) Crossed a solid white line in a turn lane These things are the kind of things that annoy me when human drivers do them. I hope that Tesla is not teaching FSD to do these things! I don't care if it takes years more to get it right though. Don't release it before it's ready. FSD has a permit and not a driver license. Yesterday they made a mistake and unleashed Waymo and Cruise on a few cities for round-the-clock driverless service. I am confident that them releasing it too soon will come back to bite them and it will get revoked after bad things happen. They should have waited until it was ready.
I notice that too. I find that lane changing in intersection is not illegal in my state(I thought it has been). So I am ok with that. Tesla see things(360 views all time) we can’t see.
Question: When FSD does something it shouldn't, like it did at 13:25 but you didn't have to intervene, shouldn't you disengage so that you get the opportunity to leave a voice message where you can say what happened, so that the software can be improved? In the case at 13:25, Tesla has no way to know that the car messed up.
Tesla FSD pricing should change from $200/mo if subscribed -to- $0.25 per mile driven via FSD with every car enrolled. Don’t want to pay, then don’t use it. Want to pay a little, use it a little. Want to use it a lot, you’ll pay more. This removes the big $15K and $200/mo barriers, gets FSD into everyone’s hands, puts customer cost in their individual control, and Tesla can adjust the per mile rate to stay competitive or even offer free FSD Miles as a vehicle referral/purchase incentive.
How sre you driving without toucing the steering, Was the steering wheel removed? Also this version compared to comma 3s openpiolet, is tesla wayy better?
I’m 80 years old and I’m looking forward to FSD on my next-and maybe last-car because I’ll still be able to go on a road trip!
Hear hear Doug! I am 80 and have been using it for just this reason. Between the two of us (FSD and me) we are quite good! I just upgraded to HW4 and have lost FSD for a few months until they catch up, and it feels awful. Autopilot is NOT FSD by a long stretch. The new sensors in HW4 are excellent! The vision system calibrated itself on the drive home, and now shows how close things are 360 degrees around the car! It is yet too conservative, leaving a wider margin than ultrasound, but that will improve.
I use FSD every day, almost the whole time I'm in my car. I was heading to dinner with a friend and wanted to show it off, so I turned it on. First thing it does is swerve onto the wrong side of the street and then swing wildly back to the correct side. FSD is amazing 95% of the time, and 5% bonehead moves. For Tesla to claim a GTP moment, they need the bonehead moves to 0%. That doesn't mean perfect, just no egregious mistakes.
Agreed.
Although, I must admit that - in my case - more than half the time that I exclaim, “what the heck are you doing?” , the fault turns out to lie with ME. something set incorrectly, or GPS / no GPS when I expected the opposite.
Their moment will be when their lawyers are willing to accept full liability for accidents and issues. Although I’m sure Elon’s army of lawyers will find anyway they can to weasel out of it. “Oh per the car data collected, your tires were 2lbs under inflated” or “records show you hadn’t replaced the wipers in 2 years”, etc,…
Chat gpt can be incredibly bone headed. I use it daily and the answers are too OFTEN completely wrong.
Sounds like the answer Chat gives when asked what becomes of humans😀. Coincidence?
dude same EXACT thing happened to me. use it for driving 95% of the time. friend gets in the car, I go to show it off, within 5 seconds it swerves wildly into oncoming traffic. it's like it knows to make you looks bad
Living in Florida, we have millions of snow birds that come down for the winter every year. Most in their 70's, 80's, and 90's. Many who should have stopped driving years ago. I am not kidding when I say that everyone knows someone who was almost run over or was run over on a sidewalk, a parking lot, backed into by someone who could not turn there head to see if anyone was coming. We have had people run over sitting at a bus stop. This could truly save hundreds of lives every winter in this state.
I am 80 in Boston, and love FSD just for this reason. It is now often catching things before I do (pedestrians, bicycles, something out of my field of view), and as I say, "between the two of us," we are pretty good.
Any software engineer can tell you, the last 5% takes 95% of the time to complete. You’re completely underestimating how long it will take to get to 99.9% reliability, which is really when mass adoption will actually happen. The chatGPT moment for Self driving will happen a lot later than AI like chatGPT because chatGPT makes massive errors but it doesn’t kill anyone (at least not directly), so it’s adoption was a lot faster.
Nice video though. Keep up the good work for raising awareness for amazing progress we are making on the self driving front.
That's so true, but Tesla is the closest to 100 %.
The immediate goal for FSD is level 4 autonomy which, I believe, Waymo have achieved with their robotaxi's. Level 5 (no steering wheel or pedals) is still some way off.
these AI models may not fit your axiom. Maybe they only need to feed and train on more data increase neural model size which is a question of time.
the minimum desired accuracy can be like accident rate lower than 99% of drivers. that means 1% of drivers will prefer to drive themselves
I think that it's not going to take much longer before people realize that FSD is already far safer than most human drivers.
@@bilbo_gamers6417 fair or not, FSD will be held to a much much higher standard for safety than humans. So FSD needs to be several times better than a human before mass adoption. That last few percent is going to take time… everyone underestimates the effort required for the last few percent.
I would love to see it doing a UK driving test.
Need a different set of training data for driving on different side of road...
@@Trust_but_Verify tho if they can make sense of it, 90% of the world is basically ready. cos of colonial past...
It would get stabbed
it would fail it would have no idea how to get around roundabouts . tesla is not that advanced yet
I can't wait till this comes to Australia!
Love your narrated videos. It is so obvious that FSD is getting exponentially better.
I think that, when Tesla feels FSD is "ready", they will offer a free trial month to anyone who wants it. They will probably get the word out months in advance, and that will be the ChatGPT moment. I have an idea that Tesla should do an "easter egg hunt" where, on a set day and time, FSD can give you the option of an easter egg destination that you won't know until you get there and the place would be some awesome festival. Now that would be pretty cool as a ChatGPT moment.
And I think Tesla will increase the price of FSD significantly
Omar, Thank you !!! 👏👏👏 I love your commentary !!! 💯
13:30 I was half expecting you to say "Well... I take it all back..." lmao. Thanks for the videos good sir~
Gosh I love your work, Omar. Quietly, humbly profound. Thank you 🙏
Thx for not editing out errors made by fsd and just highlighting the good stuff. This video helps us get a real feel of the evolution of fsd. Great job and thx for a great video🙏🏽. New sub..
I'm watching from Japan.
In Japan, there are still many engine-powered vehicles, and the day when EVs become popular and the ban on FSD is lifted is far away.
I envy countries where I can try advanced technology!
Please keep showing us more videos!😊🌈✨
Japanese car companies seem to be doing everything they can to delay the rise of EVs even to their own future detriment
I doubt it is as far away as you think.
@@Tom_McMurtry You are right.
The general perception of EVs among Japanese people is lagging behind because they only tell what is convenient.
This situation is unfortunate and frustrating.
@@Doratabi47 it's frustrating watching the demise of once great and we'll trusted brands like Toyota due to apathy and resistence to change from this Westerners point of view. I can only imagine what it's like in the inside of Japan observing this while few around you realize at this point the trouble these brands are in.
@@Tom_McMurtryIt's the same here in Europe.
FSD is far to be seen here in France, because of the silly gvt directives, damnit.
I just WANT to be driven from a point A to a point B without being exhausted at the end of the trip.
I just HATE to drive by myself, it's a pain in the ass for me ( really , physically , i have some back pain if i stay too long in a driver position ).
Thanks for this, Omar.
Your narrative was incredibly informative and relevant.
I'm blown away with the generic Autopilot on my 1-month old MYLR. FSD will be an absolute game changer.
Hope the FSD will rolling out around the world soon.
I know bro same here
Apparently it may be released in Australia in a few months.
Autopilot costs $AU5,000 and FSD is another $AU5,000 on top of that which in $US3,250, $US3,250 which is a bargain compared to $US6,000 and $US15,000 ($AU9,250 and $AU23,000 respectively!!!).
Almost makes me want to buy a Tesla now before the price inevitably jumps when FSD is released here (Australia).
@@aristideau5072although it was 'coming soon' 4 years ago in the UK 😢 - I wish they'd let us transfer the subscription to a new vehicle.
Probably not in The Netherlands! We have more then only cars in traffic here.
Also using a phone in a car (or on a bicycle) here will result in a huge fine. 👍
GPT is not magic, it's just 'next token' prediction.
it's happening. slowly, but it's happening. thanks for letting us participate live, Omar!
Part of the general awareness issue of the progress of FSD is that a Tesla in full self driving mode looks just like every other Tesla on the road. It does not look like any other autonomous vehicle with LiDAR and lots of external equipment. I am tempted to get car magnet signs that say, “Full self driving vehicle in training” just a point out the fact that my car is actually driving itself most of the time.
As an engineer, camera based driving is correct 99.9% of the time, LiDAR based driving is correct 99.999% of the time, the question is whether that 0.01% difference can result in a crash over a lifetime..
I live in Europe. I can’t wait for this software to replace the standard autopilot. It seems to be much better when lines change or cars are parked in the side of the street etc. Also sign recognition is not working in Europe, so we hope this new software will incorporate that as well.
How's the full auto handling night driving these days? Or extended drive legs into the morning sun? I assume there is a high dependency on the cameras' imputs. Obviously certain driving conditions can impede or practically eliminate those inputs.
It’s not asking you to check in with the steering wheel?
If every car had FSD, the roads would be a lot safer
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@@Irishherbs eh? Your comment makes no sense
They might make human driving illegal or it will be like horse riding you can do it but it will be just too slow
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@@donaldperry148 most of it should be 🤣
Imagine whats going to happen when Tesla flips that switch and absolutely DWARFS the combined driverless mileage of Waymo/Cruise in a couple days.
Aren't Waymo and Cruise just pre-mapping out cities? While Tesla is basically more actually autonomous?
…. Or the first day
What is it, a million FSDb miles per day already? And growing fast. The latest versions are sooo much better than all previous ones, that most users are turning it on EVERY time, versus only when they had time to closely supervise.
I’m allowing an extra half hour - for FSDb - to get to work, and keep getting there early. She handles everything - practically like a pro -, except parking lot gates, and major airport construction. ❤ my chauffeur Katie !
They already have...
😂 in ten more years you mean?
@@GoldenTV3 They rely wholly on pre-mapping every mile which is why they can't drive outside of those pre-drawn digital rails. Tesla, on the other hand, is not autonomous until they can rack up miles without anyone in the driver seat. So not autonomous yet, but when they get there, the shortcuts taken by everyone else will be undeniably clear as these others struggle for tiny pre-mapped postage stamps on the map driving in parts of a few cities and avoiding freeways.
omar thank you.
i could watch your vids every day
How are you not touching the steering wheel? In my 3, it wants a resistance just about every 30 seconds.
I put on sun glasses. It give me 2 minutes
Is this Elon mode?
How do you get it to let you take your hands off the wheel for so long?
Oh a question! I see in Berlin we very very often have those conditional street signs. For example, speed "30" but only between 22pm-7am. How would FSD handle that? OCR? Map data?
I'm in Australia and when using autopilot it seems to get the speed correct in those situations
Thank you for this video. I was never a Tesla fan but I have been researching Tesla for my 83 year old dad. He ran a red light and crashed last year because he didn't see the light. Can I buy the model 6 with FSD now and use it?
What setting do you have FSD on? I recently switched from Standard to Assertive and have really been enjoying its decision making.
Im a kid and im pretty thrilled about just how good tesla as a company and fsd will be when i grow up and get one for myself..❤❤
Then, better take your time growing up. 😂
Thanks for the video. I just got the 2023 model Y long range but do not have FSD at this time. Really enjoy the vehicle. I have not tried the basic auto pilot yet, but soon I will.
Still watching many FSD tester videos to see how it going with each update you get. You know more about if the latest FSD and how much it has improved over past versions.
We are just observers and just get an idea how well it performs, so I don't say any critical things about FSD. I am amazed what it can do right now and as time goes on and data collected from each of you, FSD will continue to get better. When it will reach level 4 or 5 remains to be seen, but they will get there sometime in the future.
Take care.
I'm baffled by videos on RUclips demonstrating how good FSD is while in my personal experience it struggles quite a bit in my area, making wrong lane decision, getting scared of other vehicles on narrow narrow roads, etc
I just use autopilot. It is amazing. I let it do 90% of my driving. You sound like FSD is worse than Autopilot? How?
That's because many of these YoutTubers intentionally select simple routes (no detours, road blocks, u turns, etc)
@@davidbeppler3032 FSD and autopilot are 2 different programs with different lines of code. My FSD experience has been similar to @fparent - I use it only when there are no cars on the road, and mainly to see if it's gotten better. Of the 3 people I know in person with FSD, none of them use it regularly due to the inconsistency.
@@davidbeppler3032Amazing? I get the phantom braking on autopilot all the time. So, I don't know how this FSD can be better than Autopilot.
@@davidbeppler3032 FSD is definitely superior to Autopilot, no doubt in my mind. I'm just relating that my experience with FSD isn't matching what's reported here and elsewhere.
BRILLIANT WORK!!!! I thought it was being hesitant at beginning of the video but I was wrong. We [mainly] humans are speeding all of the time!!! I enjoyed the honesty of the video. It is a work in progress but that progress is FAST!!!!! Loved the Boy/ Girl racer in the tuned car at 18:25 overtaking on the inside lane!! A human driver namely me would probably speed up to wind them up. 19:05 crossed a red light thanks to human-ish error! Stopped at destination without indicating or putting hazard lights on... But this is actually AMAZING. It's a driverless car!!!! From driving with a person in front of your car literally waving a red flag to the car driving itself in around 100 years!!!!! BRAVO TEAM!!!!! Btw 7:07 and 9:41 11:01 11:11 - Illegal overtake on inside lane ... Anomaly at 13:05 13:15 ... 13:22 veering into oncoming traffic!!!!! #RedFlag ("That was interesting" - Good euphemism!!! :) #ONWARDSANDFORWARDS!!!
Please for the love of god mute your notifications while making a video, i checked my phone and watch multiple times during the video and thought i was going crazy 😂😂
Edit: you did it in the middle of the video thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Love the thought provoking commentary. The comparison to the ChatGPT public awareness “moment” should not be ignored by TSLA investors… look at how the world is rushing to invest in AI… we’re already in!
we can't guess how much of fsd is already baked into TSLA stock price. You don't know , I don't know etc. But it will get closer to NVDA's PE soon (ish)
Very akin to the fomo frontrunning of tech stocks in 1999. Mega revenue yet to come at some time, don’t miss out!!
Should have invested in 2003.
I see the strength & confidence in the system now. Thank you for this video.🤝🤝
So why is your car not constantly reminding you to put your hands on the wheel? I have FSD for over a year never kicked off and my car consistently reminds me to put my hands on the steering wheel so what are you doing differently
Yep, lots of FSD progress, thanks for your cogent narrative, very worthwhile!
Great video, I shared with a few friends!
13:22 fix it again tony
Two stories:
1) I once hit and killed a dog because my focus was on a dog on the opposite side of the road whose owner was having difficulty managing.
2) on a second occurance, I had a deer bound across the road in front of me. While I watched carefully where the deer came from and was able to continue, the second deer (that is nearly always there) landed on the hood of the car behind me as that driver paid attention to where the 1st deer went.
In both stories, an autonomous car would have been aware of the full surroundings, not just on what caught its attention.
Excellent examples.
You describe cases of "distracted driving" that have nothing to do with the definitions commonly used.
Great commentary, Omar. Cheers.
I agree with the overwhelming majority of what you expressed in this video. You are absolutely correct. This invention is, in my opinion, one of the most fascinating creations ever in computer science.
Now, a bit about my 'Tesla story.' I live in Toronto, Canada, and I purchased my Tesla Model 3 RWD four weeks ago. It came with three months of FSD (free due to the referral program), and I'm absolutely loving it! I use FSD every single time I step into the car. While it's not flawless-especially version 11.3.6-it's still incredibly impressive and good. Many times, I'm astonished by the human-like behavior that's built into the AI.
I'm hoping that by the time my three-month trial expires, FSD subscriptions will be available in Canada.
Once again, a fantastic video with great information!
Good video. BTW, you are not holding hand on the drive wheel. In my case, i am getting warning message. Why your FAD does not show?
Yes, I noticed that too. I have to keep a little pressure on the steering wheel every 15 seconds with my 2018 Model X.
Why are you not holding onto steering wheel? Did you jury rig your wheel or are does latest update allow you to do this?
Thank you for this great video. I purchased my new model 3 with FSD in 2021. I have to keep my hands on the wheel a lot, or the blue light flashes and could disconnect. I wonder how you hardly had to have your hands on the wheel. Do you have a different version. I did purchase FSD. Thanks for your help
Should you not have your hand on the steering wheel?
what happened at 13:17 to 13:33 ?
Great video! Thanxs Omar for bringing awareness to this great tech!
@3:27 why are there 2 different speed limit signs right next to each other? one for 45mph and another for 25mph??
I had to look close and pause the video, but it looks like the speed limit is 45mph, and the immediate next 25mph sign has a TRUCK sign above it. So, I think the 25mph sign only applies to trucks because the road is going down a steep grade.
Thanks for the video. Very interesting.
Do not drive in Paris France! The computer will be overwhelmed 😉😊 (scooters and motorcycle between lanes, car, trucks, bicycle, electric scooter, pedestrian and so on... 😅 )
Greetings from France
Great Video!
Tesla stock has been in correction since Nov 2021,
it will Bottom around 55$ likely in MID October
After that I am sure Tesla will then Unleash Many amazing updates across the board, end of 2023 into 2024 will be cool
Tremendous progress.
Love the UI updates on your videos! How are you getting the data for the map, compass, etc?
Interesting little "brain-fart"(not sure what else to call it😅) in the 14 minute range. I took it as an interesting look at what it does when it gets confused. On that note - it is kind of a positive. You were safe, it redirected itself, all was good. Much like a human turning too soon or in the wrong place, re-re-rethinking where it is and how to get back on track. It responded in a human-like think mode. Kinda cool. Love your rides and narration. Thanks!
How are there no wheel nags? Does this new version use the cabin camera for driver attentiveness?
16:54 Is that the cost per gallon?
UK equivalent is $8.56
What's with that red light at 6:46?
it´s a protected left turn light...not applicable if you want to go straight
how are you avoiding the steering wheel input touching? using your knee?
Ever wonder why Elon Musk routinely comments on Mr. mars X (Twitter) feed? Without Omar mentioning him? Well, Omar has different code than the rest of us beta users who paid $15k for something promised to work as Elon promoted. Mars is special. He and other special people who make money promoting what is still as of today a fantasy for rest of us, are allowed to have the OBD device that “stimulates” simulated wheel movement so no hands are needed. Also, even more special elite have the wheel movement requirement turned off, with attenuated interior camera monitoring. That is how this works.
Free your mind, Neo.. You are close by asking this question. Get free of the Mr. musk Tesla matrix. :)
Is this Elon mode?
Good demonstration of FSD, good balance of reality - good and bad!
Love the true comments and facts, can you tell what u r driving, is it hardware 3 or 4. Thanks for making the video, super existing ❤.
Thanks for the information and video. Looks great.
Not sure why your results are always better than what I am experiencing here in LA. Any thoughts??
PLEASE explain why you have no steering wheel nag. Are you on a special program with Tesla or are you using your legs to provide the torque or some other hidden work around?
Is this Elon mode?
I can't wait until people get it. It's impossible to convince people this is a real thing. Most people won't believe it until they see it.
all the mistakes and near misses it still makes all the time are definitely still a very real thing. I'm embarrassed to show it to anyone
Do you have data from more complex environments, such as unpaved roads or snowy conditions?
It wasn’t until you were going down the ‘hill’ that I realized you were heading down to Torrance. 👍
I have 11.4.4 on a 2020 X. How do you get it to drive without you frigging the steering wheel every 15 sec? Are you on an employees-only build? I don't frequent this forum (loads and loads of noise!) so sorry if this has been asked a thousand times before.
What model Tesla? still hardware 3 you have? , great progress, even though I don't have the FSD package, I wish I could see that amount of detail on my screen of the surroundings like you see with the FSD add on and full screen views.
how come u don't have to have hand on the wheel? or steering wheel checks?
Does it avoid potholes?
Chat GPT moment: starts hallucinating, scares the crap out of the whole world.
Legit observation of correlation.
1:06 I’m blown away tbh ❤
Mind blowing that this is a thing. Relative to human history we only figured out electricity yesterday... then BOOM... AI driving our electric cars.
How are you using fsd without your hands on the wheel? Don’t you need hands on the wheel?
Is this Elon mode?
Omar, how is it you drove the entire route without your hand on the wheel and only got a Flashing blue warning when demonstrating the Cabin Camera “Pay attention warning “?
Elon mode?
Thanks for sharing your experience with fsd I owned Tesla with fsd but every 20-25 second I need to touch the wheel did you have special features
im really wondering what is CHATGPT. im new to this whole teslas thing and FSD. love your videos.
The end of people's ability to write and think for themselves, is what ChatGPT is.
You have nice, flat roads with clear lines to guide you. What will it do in countries were at least half of all the roads are very bumpy with no clear lines, gravel and solid ice and snow 6 months every year?
Will you trade to hardware 4? Do you think Hardware 3 is fine?
How come it doesn’t prompt you to place your hand on the steering wheel?is that no longer necessary with the newer versions?
Hey, question:
What is the energy consumption when on auto?
Let's say, you were to drive 200 miles with and without auto - what would be the difference? Could you check it?
why do you expect that there is a difference in energy consumption?
Based on my driving, FSD use a lot less energy because I use lead foot a lot but FSD don’t.
@@BaldurNorddahl because autonomy needs energy.
@@aXimo it is always on. When you are driving, it is running in shadow mode. It will compare what you are doing to what it would have done.
@@BaldurNorddahl That is interesting.
But what if you were to just drive. Without the nav?
Then the car can't know the route.
An average driver has 3-4 accidents in their lifetime, so 1 in about every 18 years. How many do u think FSD would have without ANY human intervention? I don’t think FSD is even close to an average human with a driver’s license.
you are right. But to be fair, keep in mind you make many mistakes for each time you make a mistake that causes an accident. In the video, FSD makes maybe 3 major mistakes. None would or did cause an accident however.
The point is the rate of progress ! Not looking at this week.
@@BaldurNorddahl I am not saying it would have an accident everyday but maybe 1 in a week.
@@mikecounsell with the current rate of progress do u see it being even close to an avg human driver (which is 1 accident / 18 years of driving) by the end of the year. Forget the marching of the 9s, will there be a first 9?
How come you don’t get the nag !
U mean FSD on older car models? Their vision-only models are not going to work as well (maybe ever).
I have a PhD in CS, so I do have some domain knowledge. I do believe a vision-only solution is NOT the best way to go for level 3 or above autonomous driving.
I’m not even sure how they can make parking assist work as well as they used to with uss without adding extra cameras.
A lot of places do not have lane lines, and some places have lane lines only in the summer warm months. Snowfall and Downpour rain, more inaccuracies ? Still, loved this video, and it does show the advances that have been made. I am a TCP SUV Limo Driver, drive a and 2021 Suburban Premier. I use Android Auto with my Samsung Phones, Google Maps. The Software does tell me " Keep Eyes on the Road , Don't text and Drive" and other things. Other time I was driving from Sacramento back to Marin County late at night with very little autos on the road. I drove FAST. The next morning, on my screen , " Your recent speed was excessive. Slow Down" - which caught me - but now, I think these systems are making me a better driver! For me to make me consider an Electric vehicle is the ability to have an large EV, three rows of seats, and buy 2 of them, so one is always charging. 400 miles range ( not 325 ) is needed. Thanks for your video.
Wow, advancement is amazing, the difference in last 12 months is exponential! 🔥🌎🙏💕
Great video, great summary thanks 👍
Are they using any of the FSD stack already for the free autopilot system and tesla vision parking sensors? Or are those old pieces still.
They should remove the cabin camera, not go all in on it. We were sold the idea what we could be watching netflix and playing steam while our cars drive, but now we can't even check a text message in our full self driving cars? The pay attention warning shouldn't be there. It should only beep when there is construction, emergency lights or odd situations.
Being a Tesla owner for over 6 years, I feel that FSD and electric cars in general, will go down in history as one of the biggest technical and environmental scams in history…
I'd be paying more attention with FSD because I wouldn't want to die while the car was driving! Lol
7:19 He’s got a point whoever said most are driving drunk or distracted because no car ever - ice or EV ever had had a drunken or distracted driver at he wheel🤦♂️
Are you using HW3 or 4?
I would like to see tests of FSD in NY or more complex areas of Los Angeles. I live in LA, and FSD is constantly making bad lane choices. One example is some streets have parking in the right lane for certain hours of the day, but FSD disregards this and will sometimes choose the right lane when there are parked cars in its chosen driving path. Other times, FSD doesn't have the best awareness of left/right turn only lanes. I think FSD works well in some situations, but needs a TON of improvement in more complex situations.
I noticed a couple of driving mistakes by the FSD software.. 1) Changed lanes in an intersection 2) Crossed a solid white line in a turn lane These things are the kind of things that annoy me when human drivers do them. I hope that Tesla is not teaching FSD to do these things! I don't care if it takes years more to get it right though. Don't release it before it's ready. FSD has a permit and not a driver license.
Yesterday they made a mistake and unleashed Waymo and Cruise on a few cities for round-the-clock driverless service. I am confident that them releasing it too soon will come back to bite them and it will get revoked after bad things happen. They should have waited until it was ready.
I notice that too. I find that lane changing in intersection is not illegal in my state(I thought it has been). So I am ok with that. Tesla see things(360 views all time) we can’t see.
Question: When FSD does something it shouldn't, like it did at 13:25 but you didn't have to intervene, shouldn't you disengage so that you get the opportunity to leave a voice message where you can say what happened, so that the software can be improved? In the case at 13:25, Tesla has no way to know that the car messed up.
What glitches do you still see
Tesla FSD pricing should change from $200/mo if subscribed -to- $0.25 per mile driven via FSD with every car enrolled. Don’t want to pay, then don’t use it. Want to pay a little, use it a little. Want to use it a lot, you’ll pay more. This removes the big $15K and $200/mo barriers, gets FSD into everyone’s hands, puts customer cost in their individual control, and Tesla can adjust the per mile rate to stay competitive or even offer free FSD Miles as a vehicle referral/purchase incentive.
how come you are not asked to tap the steering wheel every 30 sec? I own a model S plaid
How sre you driving without toucing the steering, Was the steering wheel removed?
Also this version compared to comma 3s openpiolet, is tesla wayy better?