I dont know what I am more excited about haha....really want to hear about the print runs, about the dust and about next sets....guess you guys just nailed EXACTLY what we want to hear!
Thank you for checking out the video, we felt like it was a really good conversation with Simon and he was very forthcoming with answering as many questions as possible. Happy to have you here!
Simon thank you for talking with us. The delay for beta sucked. I'm glad you are taking measures to prevent delays in the future. Everything you talked about that you are working on and planing makes me realy exited! The binders, the dust store, the next set, the 'mini'-sets everything sounds great! I am enjoying the alpha and beta cards I have very much. Sorcery is everything I want from a TCG. You have done a great job with the flavor, art, gameplay, collectability, release scedule and comunication. Keep up the good work! :) I am looking forward to many more years of sorcery contested realm.
Really like his answer about the players community, the will to keep the initial vision they had when the project started. I think that it is a really important point for the game to survive. Super confident for the future of the game.
Absolutely, and I think that a lot of the things that makes Sorcery unique, is also what people really resonate with and enjoy about the game. Thanks for checking out the video, we appreciate it!
@@TempoLOOKING I think an important point is that they would be printing more -compared to Beta, not just printing unlimited amounts. I think we need to have faith, the company has a lot of people thinking and considering all the facts. Erik, the creator, himself is a big time old school magic collector/player, and he has the benefit of seeing a lot of the other 2020 indie TCGs and doing things differently. 😉
One more great point that I wanted to mention is how awesome it is that Simon and EC are transparent about wanting to make sure the game has collectability and that it is a critical part of their product. Because it sets expectations and it lets ppl know that some of these cards will have value and they will be limited. And so it allows ppl to make a decision early on whether or not it’s for them and it should really help curb ppl being upset that something has a little price to it. And that everything isn’t going to be pennies. As well as lets those who want that be more confident that their cards will retain some value and it lets those who don’t want that as part of the game know if they need to stay in or get out because they understand going in what to expect or at least can’t say later on that they didn’t know it would be like x y or z……
Thank you, we really appreciate it! We also think the team has shown that they really have a great vision for the game, and we are excited to keep following the development! 🤩
I finally got the time to watch the whole video. Great interview and Simon seems a very nice and charismatic conversational partner! (Love that he watched our video, and that he watches all the vids in general!). Still have a lot of questions after what has been discussed, but i think it is awesome that he took the time to clarify things!
Thank you, friend! Agreed, we also thought it was really nice to hear that they have the finger on the pulse of the content being made around Sorcery, and really cool to hear that he saw our discussion video. 😉 Simon was incredibly easy to talk to and interview and we really appreciate him taking the time to talk and share a lot of information with us on many topics that we went through.
great interview guys. Big thanks to you two and Simon for this wonderful conversation. How refreshing to hear meaningful insights about the game from the Sorcery team. I am so happy to learn that they are aware of the things we enjoy about the game. Thank you.
Great interview Sofie and Jens - so much needed! You've really asked all the most important questions. And I have to say that Simon's answers are reassuring and build a positive outlook on the future of the game 🙂
they didnt answer the print run question but everything else was really awesome. love that they seem so level headed and that it is such a small team of people! wish them the best and i hope the game grows much much more
Thank you for watching the video. I think Simon tried to give as much context to the answer as possible in the situation. They probably haven’t made up their mind one way or another, and are still monitoring the data to see what to do.
@@CardboardGuide ive heard that they shut down the printers so no more beta is being made however a fair amount has been produced that hasnt been released on the market. Rudy is getting 6000 boxes so im assuming the rest of the world should get at absolute minumum the same thing if not doubled which means another 18k boxes hitting the world. i know we need the product right now but wondering how this will affect the price and confidence come april/may. final concern is the one set a year dynamic. people dont need an entire year to complete a set or to explore 30 deck options so i think that extremely slow pace may be an actual issue and that small additional set (that they arent calling a set) may not be enough.
@ivanfuchs2820 This is not an ECG or a porn TCG ( there are 2). 1 set a year is not good enough. I am fat an ugly. I don't have a girlfriend like Umu to stop me from buying cardboard. I follow 34 TCGs right now.
@@ivanfuchs2820 I think that Rudy getting more boxes should be seen as something separate from the rest of the distribution. I think it is entirely possible that his extra boxes are a special deal rather than more boxes worldwide will be released. However, it remains to be seen one way or the other. 😉
Great interview guys and great questions. Been meaning to comment, but watching it a third time to grab some info and wanted to leave a comment. Thanks for this! Gave us a lot of good information and helped me feel more confident about the game and the company and team behind it.
Awesome, thank you! We are really happy to hear that you enjoyed it and thanks for leaving a comment, we really appreciate it. We did a lot of research for this interview, so we are happy that the community seem to enjoy it and Simon was really a great guest -and speaking of guests, we look forward to hosting you sometime soon. 😉
Fantastic interview! This channel is getting better with every video. One idea I wanted to mention: I know it's additional work but especially for long videos like this one I wonder if it could be good to provide a TOC list with links to different parts of the video. This way it's easier to find specific parts of current interest.
Great suggestion! I will definitely get on this, but the holidays and New Years left very little time, but it is definitely something we will be doing in the future! Thanks you for checking out the interview and the kind word, we really work hard on the video and it is really nice to hear people enjoying the videos.
Fantastic interview, really insightful and gives me a lot of confidence for the future. Shows how much effort and care they are putting into this game, and the fact they are so willing to engage with fans like this is great.
Indeed. We were also quite happy to hear their thoughts about Sorcery and relieved to hear that they are very much aware of balancing the CC and G aspect of a CCG.
Hi, thanks for this well prepared interview. One critic for future videos in this formats: Try adding time stamps. It really helps structuring a 1 hour video :)
Thank you! We really appreciate the feedback and we had a great conversation. We are also very excited about the game and the future development in the upcoming sets! 🤩
Really great conversation. It's nice to hear that the team is being very conscious of the matrix of product availability and desirability. All I can say is, it's far, far better to have not enough product and people clamoring for it, than to have too much. As Rudy says, as soon as no one is asking you for product anymore, you've killed your game.
@@TempoLOOKING Yeah, watching it now and literally just heard it haha. While his wording was a little concerning, what I HOPE he meant was that we might be seeing a print run of 150k vs, say, 100k for Beta. We don't (and probably won't ever) have numbers for Beta, but 100k is my educated guess based on Rudy's allocation being a little over 9k boxes.
@asaffin1 To much. Seen Meta Zoo. I can't buy a box of the crap, it killed every store. Trade Mart, Target, Clairs, and Hot Topic bought so much they closed up shop. I use cash only after student loan issues in college.
@asaffin1 For now...yes. They need to wait 2 years unless they could die. The game needs to be expensive in order for the game to have value. With the recession I want 400 per box. Look at Magic now. If Magic could fail...what protections does Sorcery have. A black lotus is what...500. Yugioh had 10k cards at tournaments. At high school our players if Magic had 5k decks average to 15k decks. To complete with Magic it needs to be an investment. It can't compete against cheap games as there too many.
Thank you for this great interview! I have hope for sorcery, magic lost me with their greed and overprinting. Its nice to hear they care about collectabilty.
Thank you, we think that Sorcery has a lot of potential, and has already delivered on being a great game and highly collectible due to the art. We hope that they are able to maintain the balance of staying collectible and growing the game, I think they are off to a great start.
Fantastic interview Sofie and Jens. Hope you are well Sofie we met a few months back in Copenhagen great to see the channel growing and very well deserved as it's always quality! Simon is a fantastic asset to the team and gives me a world of confidence that Sorcery will head in the right direction and everyone should be very excited for what's to come! Hopefully we get to see a part 2 in the near future 🤞
Thank you! You too and great to "hear" from you! Simon was an absolute joy to talk to and shared a lot of great things including their reasoning and perspective on the future! ❤️ We hope to get to talk to Simon and/or Erik again, perhaps as we move closer to Arthurian Legends. ;)
@CardboardGuide Thanks for covering this game! I'm trying my hardest not to over hype myself. I just really want this game to grab a bunch of players' interests. I feel like the physical card game space needs a rebooting and shake-up.
Thank you for watching the interview! 🙏🏻 Sorcery is off to an incredibly promising start and we are very excited to follow the game in the future! Did you back the Kickstarter?
Point well taken! 😂 Well, generally speaking they are kinda hard to pull, those two wild boxes should probably considered outliers. Thanks for checking out the interview, I look forward to speaking more.
excellent interview. great questions, great informative answers. glad the mystique of curios are remaining as they are but enough of other information relayed to keep us thirsty, lol. looking forward to the future.
Thank you! Agreed, it was exactly the right amount of information to keep us all interested and guessing! I am happy that they are keeping to Curios as a community thing, which has been incredibly enjoyable. ❤️
There is definitely enough product for the community size. Sure it’s hard to get as CCGs should be, but there are still tons of boxes around and printing more without a big players base it’s setting it up for failure (Monarch 2.0)
We just say Simon and Erik's interview and even though it sounds like they are going to print more AL than beta, we can't know for certain. Also, they are trying very hard to balance getting cards into the hands of players and having cards that are collectible. I think we need to see what happens before counting AL out.
You guys are the best!!! Awesome video and tons of great questions and discussion!! If Simon is reading these, how many new avatars should we expect per set?
We hope so! I think the team are doing a lot of things right with the game and the way they are managing it, so hopefully the game has a great future ahead of it and we really look forward to following it grow and continue to play and make content ont the game! Thank you for checking out the video, we appreciate it!
Enjoyed the interview, i do hope they have something other than the once a year release, a small unique unto itself print of something at like the six month mark yearly, would help keep interest and not saturate the market with one product...
Thank you for the kind comment and checking out the video! It will be interesting to see if they move to something like that at some point. For now we are super excited about Arthurian Legends!
Hi Tim, thanks for checking out the video and taking the time to leave a comment! Where are you located? The Beta precons are pretty widely available still in our region.
Interesting point at the end on the beta opening and then noticing that maybe they turned the dial too much. Wish I could get some of the good side of that dial.
Yeah, I was happy to hear that they were monitoring the situation around the Beta boxes and the collation. I think the team is keeping an interested eye on a lot of things regarding product, consumption, gameplay, etc. to see where and how they need to adjust. Thanks for watching! 😉
I think a great idea for supporting their content creators would be for the team at Eric’s curiosa to make custom metal coins used for determining first player. One side would have unique sorcery related art and the other side the creators logo or something like that. Then distribute the coins to the creators so they can give them away to subscribers/viewers. “Call it in the air, Eric’s Curiosa or Cardboard Guide”
Wow, I like that idea, that would be awesome and fun! 🤩 We would love some type of content creator support that was for our community, that we could give away. ❤️ I think your idea is really creative and also something I haven’t seen anyone else do. 😉
Fantastic interview! Idea: the company needs a "community outreach" person to coordinate with all the content creators. Spread the "Exclusive" info around. Can hardly wait for Arthurian Legends spoilers to hit - and having each creator spoil things at certain times would be awesome. 😄
Thank you so much! They do indeed have someone on the team working on the community aspect, his name is Chase and he does a lot of work with the content creators as well as video for/with the game. ;) We are also incredibly excited for Arthurian Legends, and we look forward to see how the Sorcery team decides to share upcoming cards and new additions to the game with us all.
Some exciting things and interesting tidbits to hear from Smon. My only critique is I wish you could have asked some more questions that were a little more challenging to him and the company. One of the main and major questions I wish was asked would be having him touch on and address the card quality issues that have come up. Even if you didn't ask that question, I really wish Simon would have touched on that. Even if he just acknowledged it and said, hey we're aware of a these issues and we're working with the printer to make those changes and address that going forward. Or something to that effect. But other than that, nice interview guys!
Hi there, thank you for the comment. We had a lot of questions, but we had to cut some due to the length of the interview and what we felt would create the best pace and flow. I think he did touch on the issue of collation in Beta, and I think that is one point that has been on the community’s mind. We like to have a good balance between asking stuff, like the Beta delays and reprints, that we feel must be mentioned, and some more free conversation. I agree that Simon shared some interesting things and I hope he picks up your question and address some of the quality issues. Thank you for checking out the video and leaving a comment. 😉
@@CardboardGuide I can understand that. Well I think he very slightly touched on what sounded to me like the clumping issues without saying it. It didn't sound like it was a reference to any kind of print quality, which is what I was talking about. But I hear you. Thanks!
@@dancappy6170 I don’t know if you saw it, but Simon commented on the print quality in the official Sorcery Discord server and said they were aware of some issues.
Yes, and the rewards look very cool and the binders to offset the cost, while also being a product that the community really, really wants, is a great idea. 🤩 Thanks for checking out the video! ❤️
awesome interview. could a way to keep original beta collectability but to ensure people can readily access the game in the future (especially to interact with future sets) be to reprint an edition with no foils?
I think, and I stress we are just thinking out loud here, that at some point we will have a Revised set with different art and maybe without certain cards. I would be a good way to get some of the “core” cards into the hands of new players, but for now there are loads of Beta singles available -and affordable. 😉
Missed opportunity you didnt ask simon about tcg player not listing crusade and jihad. Would have liked to hear what he had to sya about it. Great interview.
I think in reality there is very little the company can do about it, as it is up to TCG player and not the company. Thank you for checking out the interview! 🔥
Thank you for checking out the video! There is no question that the update on binders is a huge success, the is definitely a market for them, and personally collecting the sets in the official binders is just really cool. 😉
I hope he answers the questions he never gave me the chance to ask: Why was a one set per year model chosen? How do you assure stores and the community that this model will keep them profitable and engaged? Due to the cost of using hand painted art, how will you stay profitable using this model? What factors were taken into consideration when you decided on a Beta print run? What hard targets do you need to hit before you print more Beta? What was the cause of the Beta delay in Canada, Europe, and parts of Australasia? What internal challenges did you face? What are your current plans to grow the player base? What are you doing to incentivize stores to carry Sorcery? Where do you see Sorcery in a year?
My question for Simon, if he can answer it, are there any plans internally to release a digital version of the game onto places like Epic or Steam in a similar vein to MTG Arena? I know we have TTS but would really like a coded version of the game that helps you learn all the intricacies of the game's rules as you play it.
I think the company even before delivery said that the demand far outstripped the supply, but it also seems to be a regional thing, and Team Covenant still has supply.
Hi there, thanks for checking out the video and you can take the survey here: news.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/want-a-new-tcg-on-cardmarket-take-this-survey-and-let-us-know
Simon. I know this has been mentioned before, but would like to at least add to the voices of this opinion. Seeing how you want to keep it collectible and are weighing options to get more players. May I suggest or ask if a revised "non beta" reprint is a talking point? Then both collectors and players get some of their needs fulfilled at same time.
Hi there, there are already different community efforts to build the multiplayer format with rules and custom made four player playmats. All of this is available in some of the different Discord, like the Discord for the podcast All Things Contested Realm, had a section on alternative formats: discord.gg/h74qwNT6 Thanks for checking out the video!
What is the logic behind not releasing print runs? FAB community loves the transparency, Grand Archive, who does it best, is beloved for being forthcoming immediately. MTG is despised for not releasing numbers ... Knowing these community trends.... Explain the logic behind the decision. Safe travels Simon. Also, sad to hear Ira is leaving, everyone in the community loves him.
If you don't say anything about the print run, you don't disappoint as long as everything gets sold in the market. For example if you tell everybody the print run is 75k. Alot of people will be dissapointed because the expected print run is 50-60k. Maybe some people over react and this could crash the 2nd market. Say nothing about the printrun is the best strategie buisness wise in the current market situation. FAB crashed after they released the print run of monarch 1st edition.
@@peterwalzer8163 Monarch crashed because it was Uber hyped up already, people withheld stock, then numbers released and people dumped AND the print run was a gazillion times higher than expected. A lot of things came together to create that bubble and crash, it wasn't simply a matter of releasing print run numbers, or even just them being larger than expected. With regards to Sorcery, if the print run is 100k for Beta, and the market has absorbed it all, that's ok... Supply and Demand will level any market, if Monarch had the demand for that print run, then it wouldn't have crashed so badly, but it was a false-limited supply and a dump after an Uber-hype and FOMO.
I would not be opposed to that, even though I enjoy the simplicity of having just precon decks and the booster box. The precon decks also somewhat solves the Sites shortage. Simon also commented in our interview that they are thinking of a a product for draft/sealed, which should help the lack of sites. Thanks for checking out the video, we really appreciate it! 🙌🏻
I absolutely think it is! Erik as the creative genius, and the entire team helping, developing, and getting this wonderful game to us, are all doing a great job.
@@TempoLOOKINGspeak for yourself. I didn't have faith in it for a second. It seemed like unoriginal nostalgia-bait from the start, and an obvious pump and dump effort from Rudy. Sorcery may be backed by him too, but it's also been picked up by the much more principled chaps at Team Covenant, and I think the core game design has way more merit too.
I love the ideas of set binders but think it’s a shame to see the sites go into their own seperate binder. Any collector I know wants all the cards from a set in the same binder. I would like to see them using landscape pockets for the sites but contain them within the main set binder.
If that is a possibility I think that would be a great solution as well! 🔥 In general, I am just really happy that they will be making binders, since the Alpha binder is really great. 🤩 So looking forward to having our sets in original Sorcery binders. 🙌🏻🔥
Thanks for watching! It is difficult to know how it would affect the gameplay, personally, I think multi elemental cards sound cool, but I would also be okay waiting a little while to see them introduced. 😉
@CardboardGuide the thing about it is thresholds are not hard to meet in this game like they are in magic. So making cross over effects would be very powerful.
I dont know what I am more excited about haha....really want to hear about the print runs, about the dust and about next sets....guess you guys just nailed EXACTLY what we want to hear!
Happy to hear it, we hope the community enjoys it, because we really had a great time and conversation. 😉
Hope to see you tonight. 🙌🏻
This was a stellar interview! You have a new fan both for Sorcery and this channel.
Thank you for checking out the video, we felt like it was a really good conversation with Simon and he was very forthcoming with answering as many questions as possible. Happy to have you here!
Simon thank you for talking with us.
The delay for beta sucked. I'm glad you are taking measures to prevent delays in the future.
Everything you talked about that you are working on and planing makes me realy exited! The binders, the dust store, the next set, the 'mini'-sets everything sounds great!
I am enjoying the alpha and beta cards I have very much. Sorcery is everything I want from a TCG. You have done a great job with the flavor, art, gameplay, collectability, release scedule and comunication. Keep up the good work! :)
I am looking forward to many more years of sorcery contested realm.
Really like his answer about the players community, the will to keep the initial vision they had when the project started. I think that it is a really important point for the game to survive. Super confident for the future of the game.
Absolutely, and I think that a lot of the things that makes Sorcery unique, is also what people really resonate with and enjoy about the game. Thanks for checking out the video, we appreciate it!
You did not see the CEO interview. I bought MetaZoo...😢
@@TempoLOOKING I think an important point is that they would be printing more -compared to Beta, not just printing unlimited amounts.
I think we need to have faith, the company has a lot of people thinking and considering all the facts.
Erik, the creator, himself is a big time old school magic collector/player, and he has the benefit of seeing a lot of the other 2020 indie TCGs and doing things differently. 😉
One more great point that I wanted to mention is how awesome it is that Simon and EC are transparent about wanting to make sure the game has collectability and that it is a critical part of their product. Because it sets expectations and it lets ppl know that some of these cards will have value and they will be limited. And so it allows ppl to make a decision early on whether or not it’s for them and it should really help curb ppl being upset that something has a little price to it. And that everything isn’t going to be pennies. As well as lets those who want that be more confident that their cards will retain some value and it lets those who don’t want that as part of the game know if they need to stay in or get out because they understand going in what to expect or at least can’t say later on that they didn’t know it would be like x y or z……
Awesome interview! I’m more and more confident with sorcery every day due to the team leading it!
Thank you, we really appreciate it!
We also think the team has shown that they really have a great vision for the game, and we are excited to keep following the development! 🤩
OMG...can't wait to learn more about beta print runs. Could make or break the market!
Happy to hear the excitement. We had a really good talk and Simon brought up several interesting points. 😉
I finally got the time to watch the whole video. Great interview and Simon seems a very nice and charismatic conversational partner! (Love that he watched our video, and that he watches all the vids in general!).
Still have a lot of questions after what has been discussed, but i think it is awesome that he took the time to clarify things!
Thank you, friend! Agreed, we also thought it was really nice to hear that they have the finger on the pulse of the content being made around Sorcery, and really cool to hear that he saw our discussion video. 😉 Simon was incredibly easy to talk to and interview and we really appreciate him taking the time to talk and share a lot of information with us on many topics that we went through.
@@CardboardGuidebased on the video i indeed got the feeling he is easy to talk to! good stuff! 😁👊🏻
Yes, we also had a really nice pre- and post video talk. 😉 It really does show in the video, when there was a nice vibe.
great interview guys. Big thanks to you two and Simon for this wonderful conversation. How refreshing to hear meaningful insights about the game from the Sorcery team. I am so happy to learn that they are aware of the things we enjoy about the game. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! It was also great fun for us to do and we (and Simon too, we believe) are very happy with the interview.
Great interview Sofie and Jens - so much needed! You've really asked all the most important questions. And I have to say that Simon's answers are reassuring and build a positive outlook on the future of the game 🙂
Thank you! We really appreciate the kind comment and we put a lot of energy into researching the interview, so we are really happy you enjoyed it. 😉🙌🏻
they didnt answer the print run question but everything else was really awesome. love that they seem so level headed and that it is such a small team of people! wish them the best and i hope the game grows much much more
Thank you for watching the video.
I think Simon tried to give as much context to the answer as possible in the situation.
They probably haven’t made up their mind one way or another, and are still monitoring the data to see what to do.
@@CardboardGuide ive heard that they shut down the printers so no more beta is being made however a fair amount has been produced that hasnt been released on the market. Rudy is getting 6000 boxes so im assuming the rest of the world should get at absolute minumum the same thing if not doubled which means another 18k boxes hitting the world. i know we need the product right now but wondering how this will affect the price and confidence come april/may. final concern is the one set a year dynamic. people dont need an entire year to complete a set or to explore 30 deck options so i think that extremely slow pace may be an actual issue and that small additional set (that they arent calling a set) may not be enough.
@ivanfuchs2820 This is not an ECG or a porn TCG ( there are 2). 1 set a year is not good enough. I am fat an ugly. I don't have a girlfriend like Umu to stop me from buying cardboard. I follow 34 TCGs right now.
@@ivanfuchs2820 I think that Rudy getting more boxes should be seen as something separate from the rest of the distribution.
I think it is entirely possible that his extra boxes are a special deal rather than more boxes worldwide will be released.
However, it remains to be seen one way or the other. 😉
Great interview guys and great questions. Been meaning to comment, but watching it a third time to grab some info and wanted to leave a comment. Thanks for this! Gave us a lot of good information and helped me feel more confident about the game and the company and team behind it.
Awesome, thank you! We are really happy to hear that you enjoyed it and thanks for leaving a comment, we really appreciate it.
We did a lot of research for this interview, so we are happy that the community seem to enjoy it and Simon was really a great guest
-and speaking of guests, we look forward to hosting you sometime soon. 😉
Fantastic interview! This channel is getting better with every video. One idea I wanted to mention: I know it's additional work but especially for long videos like this one I wonder if it could be good to provide a TOC list with links to different parts of the video. This way it's easier to find specific parts of current interest.
Great suggestion! I will definitely get on this, but the holidays and New Years left very little time, but it is definitely something we will be doing in the future! Thanks you for checking out the interview and the kind word, we really work hard on the video and it is really nice to hear people enjoying the videos.
Fantastic interview, really insightful and gives me a lot of confidence for the future. Shows how much effort and care they are putting into this game, and the fact they are so willing to engage with fans like this is great.
Indeed. We were also quite happy to hear their thoughts about Sorcery and relieved to hear that they are very much aware of balancing the CC and G aspect of a CCG.
Hi, thanks for this well prepared interview. One critic for future videos in this formats: Try adding time stamps. It really helps structuring a 1 hour video :)
Thank you for the kind comment. We have been meaning to, we just had a lot of holiday stuff going on, but we will definitely get on it. 😉
This was tremendous. Thank you. Simon is an interesting guy. Hearing his words gives me more faith in Sorcery than ever.
Thank you! We really appreciate the feedback and we had a great conversation.
We are also very excited about the game and the future development in the upcoming sets! 🤩
Really great conversation. It's nice to hear that the team is being very conscious of the matrix of product availability and desirability. All I can say is, it's far, far better to have not enough product and people clamoring for it, than to have too much. As Rudy says, as soon as no one is asking you for product anymore, you've killed your game.
Oh they're over printing the next set. The CEO talked about today in a interview on the office channel.
@@TempoLOOKING Yeah, watching it now and literally just heard it haha. While his wording was a little concerning, what I HOPE he meant was that we might be seeing a print run of 150k vs, say, 100k for Beta. We don't (and probably won't ever) have numbers for Beta, but 100k is my educated guess based on Rudy's allocation being a little over 9k boxes.
@asaffin1 To much. Seen Meta Zoo. I can't buy a box of the crap, it killed every store. Trade Mart, Target, Clairs, and Hot Topic bought so much they closed up shop. I use cash only after student loan issues in college.
@@TempoLOOKING Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying that 150k is too much?
@asaffin1 For now...yes. They need to wait 2 years unless they could die. The game needs to be expensive in order for the game to have value. With the recession I want 400 per box. Look at Magic now. If Magic could fail...what protections does Sorcery have. A black lotus is what...500. Yugioh had 10k cards at tournaments. At high school our players if Magic had 5k decks average to 15k decks.
To complete with Magic it needs to be an investment. It can't compete against cheap games as there too many.
Thank you for this great interview! I have hope for sorcery, magic lost me with their greed and overprinting. Its nice to hear they care about collectabilty.
Thank you, we think that Sorcery has a lot of potential, and has already delivered on being a great game and highly collectible due to the art.
We hope that they are able to maintain the balance of staying collectible and growing the game, I think they are off to a great start.
Fantastic interview Sofie and Jens. Hope you are well Sofie we met a few months back in Copenhagen great to see the channel growing and very well deserved as it's always quality!
Simon is a fantastic asset to the team and gives me a world of confidence that Sorcery will head in the right direction and everyone should be very excited for what's to come! Hopefully we get to see a part 2 in the near future 🤞
Thank you! You too and great to "hear" from you! Simon was an absolute joy to talk to and shared
a lot of great things including their reasoning and perspective on the future! ❤️ We hope to get to
talk to Simon and/or Erik again, perhaps as we move closer to Arthurian Legends. ;)
Great Interview. Really like hearing from the small team that made Sorcery. Everything here sounds really promising.
Thank you for taking the time to check out the video and leave a comment. We are really happy to hear you enjoyed the interview.
@CardboardGuide Thanks for covering this game! I'm trying my hardest not to over hype myself. I just really want this game to grab a bunch of players' interests. I feel like the physical card game space needs a rebooting and shake-up.
@@was100ify The gameplay has a unique feeling to it and I think if they continue to navigate it correctly, it has amazing potential!
Thank you for the interview. Very impressive, so me and my wife were right to start with sorcery from the beginning! 👍🏻
Thank you for watching the interview! 🙏🏻
Sorcery is off to an incredibly promising start and we are very excited to follow the game in the future!
Did you back the Kickstarter?
Great Interview! If i may make one suggestion, timestamps for the different topics would be great :)
Yes, I will see if I can get those added before the holidays! 🙏🏻 Thank you for the suggestion! ❤️
Great viewing, thanks all.
Thank you so much for joining!
@@CardboardGuide thanks for the content.
Jen’s says “foil cores are hard to get”. Says the man who has opened 4 in a handful of boxes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ❤
Point well taken! 😂 Well, generally speaking they are kinda hard to pull, those two wild boxes should probably considered outliers. Thanks for checking out the interview, I look forward to speaking more.
This was a fun watch! Great content as always!
Thank you so much, we really appreciate the support and we are happy to hear you enjoyed the conversation! Happy holidays! 🎄
excellent interview. great questions, great informative answers. glad the mystique of curios are remaining as they are but enough of other information relayed to keep us thirsty, lol. looking forward to the future.
Thank you! Agreed, it was exactly the right amount of information to keep us all interested and guessing!
I am happy that they are keeping to Curios as a community thing, which has been incredibly enjoyable. ❤️
Good choice on the donnybrook inn background. Thanks for the interview
😉😄 We really love Vasiliy’s art!
Really great discussion!! This game is looking very good for a long time
Thank you, we had a great talk with Simon and we were really happy that he was willing to engage and answer so many questions. 🙌🏻
Great interview! 🙌 good to hear his comments on the beta print runs
Thank you for checking out the interview! We are also very optimistic for the future of Sorcery and can’t wait to play and follow the game! 🙌🏻
Awesome video, guys!
Thank you, we really appreciate it! 🙏🏻
great interview! I really enjoyed this content!! i’m hoping to start making content for Sorcery early next year. keep up the great work
Cool, that sounds awesome! I love that this game has so many passionate people and loads of people wanting to make content for the game. 😉
There is definitely enough product for the community size. Sure it’s hard to get as CCGs should be, but there are still tons of boxes around and printing more without a big players base it’s setting it up for failure (Monarch 2.0)
They are. The king Auther set on there channel around 27 min. DONT EVER REPRINT. Also who are these guys.
Yes, it is very reassuring to know that they are aware of the secondary market and the collectible aspect of Sorcery too.
We just say Simon and Erik's interview and even though it sounds like they are going to print more AL than beta, we can't know for certain. Also, they are trying very hard to balance getting cards into the hands of players and having cards that are collectible. I think we need to see what happens before counting AL out.
@@CardboardGuide no agos, kitchen, or skeleton.
Great interview thanks to all 🔥
And thanks to you as well for watching and commenting! 🙌🏻
You guys are the best!!! Awesome video and tons of great questions and discussion!!
If Simon is reading these, how many new avatars should we expect per set?
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Awesome interview! I hope this game prospers!
We hope so! I think the team are doing a lot of things right with the game and the way they are managing it, so hopefully the game has a great future ahead of it and we really look forward to following it grow and continue to play and make content ont the game!
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Enjoyed the interview, i do hope they have something other than the once a year release, a small unique unto itself print of something at like the six month mark yearly, would help keep interest and not saturate the market with one product...
Thank you for the kind comment and checking out the video! It will be interesting to see if they move to something like that at some point. For now we are super excited about Arthurian Legends!
Great interview. It would be great if stores had more availability to the precons. The precons will build the player base.
Hi Tim, thanks for checking out the video and taking the time to leave a comment!
Where are you located? The Beta precons are pretty widely available still in our region.
Interesting point at the end on the beta opening and then noticing that maybe they turned the dial too much. Wish I could get some of the good side of that dial.
Yeah, I was happy to hear that they were monitoring the situation around the Beta boxes and the collation.
I think the team is keeping an interested eye on a lot of things regarding product, consumption, gameplay, etc. to see where and how they need to adjust.
Thanks for watching! 😉
I think a great idea for supporting their content creators would be for the team at Eric’s curiosa to make custom metal coins used for determining first player. One side would have unique sorcery related art and the other side the creators logo or something like that. Then distribute the coins to the creators so they can give them away to subscribers/viewers.
“Call it in the air, Eric’s Curiosa or Cardboard Guide”
Wow, I like that idea, that would be awesome and fun! 🤩
We would love some type of content creator support that was for our community, that we could give away. ❤️
I think your idea is really creative and also something I haven’t seen anyone else do. 😉
Fantastic interview!
Idea: the company needs a "community outreach" person to coordinate with all the content creators. Spread the "Exclusive" info around. Can hardly wait for Arthurian Legends spoilers to hit - and having each creator spoil things at certain times would be awesome. 😄
Thank you so much! They do indeed have someone on the team working on the community aspect, his name is Chase and he does a lot of work with the content creators as well as video for/with the game. ;)
We are also incredibly excited for Arthurian Legends, and we look forward to see how the Sorcery team decides to share upcoming cards and new additions to the game with us all.
Some exciting things and interesting tidbits to hear from Smon. My only critique is I wish you could have asked some more questions that were a little more challenging to him and the company. One of the main and major questions I wish was asked would be having him touch on and address the card quality issues that have come up. Even if you didn't ask that question, I really wish Simon would have touched on that. Even if he just acknowledged it and said, hey we're aware of a these issues and we're working with the printer to make those changes and address that going forward. Or something to that effect. But other than that, nice interview guys!
Hi there, thank you for the comment.
We had a lot of questions, but we had to cut some due to the length of the interview and what we felt would create the best pace and flow.
I think he did touch on the issue of collation in Beta, and I think that is one point that has been on the community’s mind.
We like to have a good balance between asking stuff, like the Beta delays and reprints, that we feel must be mentioned, and some more free conversation.
I agree that Simon shared some interesting things and I hope he picks up your question and address some of the quality issues.
Thank you for checking out the video and leaving a comment. 😉
@@CardboardGuide I can understand that. Well I think he very slightly touched on what sounded to me like the clumping issues without saying it. It didn't sound like it was a reference to any kind of print quality, which is what I was talking about. But I hear you. Thanks!
@@dancappy6170 I don’t know if you saw it, but Simon commented on the print quality in the official Sorcery Discord server and said they were aware of some issues.
Great interview! ❤
Thank you so much for checking out the interview! We really appreciate the kind words!
I thought the dust system was smartest way any of these card companies could track box consumption. Brilliant
Yes, and the rewards look very cool and the binders to offset the cost, while also being a product that the community really, really wants, is a great idea. 🤩
Thanks for checking out the video! ❤️
Great interview, thank you.
Yous should try to get ira fey on and interview him.
Thank you! I am sure it would be a cool interview, but we would probably mostly focus on Ira’s work and experience developing games.
Just what I needed and wanted 😁
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awesome interview. could a way to keep original beta collectability but to ensure people can readily access the game in the future (especially to interact with future sets) be to reprint an edition with no foils?
No foils, no curios. That's a good approach to getting the game out and keep collectors happy
I think, and I stress we are just thinking out loud here, that at some point we will have a Revised set with different art and maybe without certain cards.
I would be a good way to get some of the “core” cards into the hands of new players, but for now there are loads of Beta singles available -and affordable. 😉
Great interview.
Thank you, friend! We appreciate it! 🙌🏻
Missed opportunity you didnt ask simon about tcg player not listing crusade and jihad. Would have liked to hear what he had to sya about it. Great interview.
I think in reality there is very little the company can do about it, as it is up to TCG player and not the company.
Thank you for checking out the interview! 🔥
I love your channel!
Thank you for the kind comment! We really enjoy making content about all the games we are excited for! 🙌🏻😉
great interview.
Thank you, we appreciate the feedback and we are really happy to hear that you enjoyed it. 🙏🏻
Best news was the binders update 🙌
Thank you for checking out the video! There is no question that the update on binders is a huge success, the is definitely a market for them, and personally collecting the sets in the official binders is just really cool. 😉
I hope he answers the questions he never gave me the chance to ask:
Why was a one set per year model chosen?
How do you assure stores and the community that this model will keep them profitable and engaged?
Due to the cost of using hand painted art, how will you stay profitable using this model?
What factors were taken into consideration when you decided on a Beta print run?
What hard targets do you need to hit before you print more Beta?
What was the cause of the Beta delay in Canada, Europe, and parts of Australasia?
What internal challenges did you face?
What are your current plans to grow the player base?
What are you doing to incentivize stores to carry Sorcery?
Where do you see Sorcery in a year?
We did ask some questions that align with some of the topics you bring up here, so I think there is something that would interest you. 😉
Get those likes up everyone.
Thank you, we always forget to say it! 🙌🏻
Sweet 🎉
Thank you for checking out the interview and taking the time to leave a message. 😉
@@CardboardGuide Really loved that the interview covered some Arthurian Legends and that there are many more sets in the pipeline !
Simon Hype 🎉
Indeed, he was a great guest and very easy to have a conversation with. 😉
The Games Ahoy Guild is here and paying close attention!
We hope you enjoyed the conversation! Thanks for checking out the video. 🙌🏻
My question for Simon, if he can answer it, are there any plans internally to release a digital version of the game onto places like Epic or Steam in a similar vein to MTG Arena? I know we have TTS but would really like a coded version of the game that helps you learn all the intricacies of the game's rules as you play it.
SIMON SAIS...... 😜! Happy Holliday Season ! 🤘🦁🤘
😆 Good one! Thank you and you too! ❤️🎄
Hi ! In France (Europe...) Sorcery is out of stock everywhere, a few days after the issue.
I think the company even before delivery said that the demand far outstripped the supply, but it also seems to be a regional thing, and Team Covenant still has supply.
Have you got the link to the Cardmarket survey? I can share it in some Discord groups as well
Hi there, thanks for checking out the video and you can take the survey here:
news.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/want-a-new-tcg-on-cardmarket-take-this-survey-and-let-us-know
Done thank you!
Will the individals who playtested Sorcery have immediate access for future playtesting through Tabletop Simulator?
Good question, I hope Simon has the opportunity to stop by and answer some of the questions. 😉
Simon. I know this has been mentioned before, but would like to at least add to the voices of this opinion. Seeing how you want to keep it collectible and are weighing options to get more players. May I suggest or ask if a revised "non beta" reprint is a talking point? Then both collectors and players get some of their needs fulfilled at same time.
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment and watching the video. I hope Simon will have some time to answer questions. 😉
Has there been any talk about a multiplayer format? If so, how long before we see it?
Hi there, there are already different community efforts to build the multiplayer format with rules and custom made four player playmats. All of this is available in some of the different Discord, like the Discord for the podcast All Things Contested Realm, had a section on alternative formats: discord.gg/h74qwNT6
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What is the logic behind not releasing print runs? FAB community loves the transparency, Grand Archive, who does it best, is beloved for being forthcoming immediately. MTG is despised for not releasing numbers ... Knowing these community trends.... Explain the logic behind the decision.
Safe travels Simon.
Also, sad to hear Ira is leaving, everyone in the community loves him.
If you don't say anything about the print run, you don't disappoint as long as everything gets sold in the market. For example if you tell everybody the print run is 75k. Alot of people will be dissapointed because the expected print run is 50-60k. Maybe some people over react and this could crash the 2nd market.
Say nothing about the printrun is the best strategie buisness wise in the current market situation.
FAB crashed after they released the print run of monarch 1st edition.
I think you’re very wrong to characterize releasing print runs as strictly a positive and withholding as strictly a negative.
@@peterwalzer8163 Monarch crashed because it was Uber hyped up already, people withheld stock, then numbers released and people dumped AND the print run was a gazillion times higher than expected. A lot of things came together to create that bubble and crash, it wasn't simply a matter of releasing print run numbers, or even just them being larger than expected. With regards to Sorcery, if the print run is 100k for Beta, and the market has absorbed it all, that's ok... Supply and Demand will level any market, if Monarch had the demand for that print run, then it wouldn't have crashed so badly, but it was a false-limited supply and a dump after an Uber-hype and FOMO.
@@troydennis96 I think you're very wrong to think I am very wrong.
Happy Holidays though! 🎄✌🏻🙃
@@etherceptoh you mean Rudychan.
Sorcery is awesome 👌
Absolutely, we feel the same way! 🙌🏻🔥
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Definitely worth a watch, if I do say so myself. Simon was very generous with his time and we had a great conversation. ❤️😉
@@CardboardGuide I enjoyed this, you guys are doing great!
Please talk about print runs:)
I think he discussed the Beta print run is a much detail and possible and giving us a lot of insight into their thinking. 😉
Give us starter deck like old MTG. Your already aiming/catered for/to old school MTG players. Would sort the site issue and bring nostalgia to us.
I would not be opposed to that, even though I enjoy the simplicity of having just precon decks and the booster box.
The precon decks also somewhat solves the Sites shortage.
Simon also commented in our interview that they are thinking of a a product for draft/sealed, which should help the lack of sites.
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20 minutes to go!
Simon seems like he's got his head screwed on straight. I feel like sorcery is in good hands.
I absolutely think it is!
Erik as the creative genius, and the entire team helping, developing, and getting this wonderful game to us, are all doing a great job.
@CardboardGuide we thought so about MetaZoo. Now look at it.
@@TempoLOOKINGspeak for yourself. I didn't have faith in it for a second. It seemed like unoriginal nostalgia-bait from the start, and an obvious pump and dump effort from Rudy. Sorcery may be backed by him too, but it's also been picked up by the much more principled chaps at Team Covenant, and I think the core game design has way more merit too.
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Can we have curio playmats pls 😎
Playmats with Curio prints? That could be kinda cool!
I love the ideas of set binders but think it’s a shame to see the sites go into their own seperate binder. Any collector I know wants all the cards from a set in the same binder. I would like to see them using landscape pockets for the sites but contain them within the main set binder.
If that is a possibility I think that would be a great solution as well! 🔥
In general, I am just really happy that they will be making binders, since the Alpha binder is really great. 🤩
So looking forward to having our sets in original Sorcery binders. 🙌🏻🔥
We have to wait 23 hours? Seems wrong.
Sorry, had to arrange it for tomorrow due to some scheduling issues. 😉
Hope you will still join us.
Always :)
@@CardboardGuide
I picked up a box and was not happen with the elite distribution. Got 4 elites x 3 of the same elite.
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Simon did mention that they have been watching the collation and will be considering how to tweak it.
I would stay awaay from multi-element stuff or keep it to a bare minimum. It disrupts the game balance
Thanks for watching! It is difficult to know how it would affect the gameplay, personally, I think multi elemental cards sound cool, but I would also be okay waiting a little while to see them introduced. 😉
@CardboardGuide the thing about it is thresholds are not hard to meet in this game like they are in magic.
So making cross over effects would be very powerful.
@@ImaginationHobbies Absolutely, but I trust that they would navigate it in the best way possible. 😉
@@CardboardGuide I hope it's far down the line
i think at this point sorcery has not disappointed at all, I'm looking forward to the next set, hoping for some new mechanics and strong unique cards.
Same, we are incredibly excited to see what the next set brings both in terms of gameplay, mechanics, and art! 🤩
Thank you for watching the video!