Tim Miller Reacts to Trump’s Terrifying Plan For a 2nd Term
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Jon Lovett and guest host Tim Miller discuss Donald Trump's mind-boggling interview with TIME Magazine, in which he details his plans to use the military to deport immigrants, allow states to monitor women's pregnancies, jack up prices on all imported goods, and much more. Plus, the Biden administration moves to reclassify weed, riot police move in on campus protestors, and Drew Barrymore asks Kamala Harris for a very special favor.
CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
1:48 - Trump's Time interview
34:09 - Ad break
35:23 - Gaza campus protests
55:40 - Kamala Harris x Drew Barrymore
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I am a big fan of Tim Miller. I think these conversations between dems and former republicans are healing my soul.
That's like being a big fan of one of the Minions from Despicable Me.
@@jfrsnjhnsn is that wrong? I don't understand what this comparison means.
Americans aren't divided by race, religion, or education. They're divided by whether or not they believe the horseshit being spewed out by Fox News.
Gotta say I love this duo. Wouldn’t be mad at a Tim and Jon weekly or semi-weekly pod.
This!
Also me.
Agreed!
This 🎉🎉
Hell yeah! ❤
Love Tim and Jon together
Me too!
Me 3. Bulwark and PSA and BTC are on heavy rotation for me..
Big fan for years. Pod Save America got Webbie Award as most popular (something like that, didn't watch).
MEIDAS TOUCH covers the legaleeze
So much!
They look alike. Seriously
Never in my life did I think I'd enjoy listening to Republicans as much as I do listening to The Bulwark
Agreed
Agreed! I finally feel a little free from”write them off” sentiments for the right. Thanks Tim!!!!
Thanks Jon!!!!
Tim is a great addition to the show. Thanks.❤❤
I'm not entirely convinced that the man can't bilocate. He has been everywhere today.
Agree!! What a great pair of guys to listen to. Such smart takes and just enough funny and cool.
Frenemy of the Pod, Tim Miller
lol jon n tim should totally do a weekly or maybe even just monthly pod together called frenemies or frenemies of the pod. I would absolutely love that. lol
Tin and Jon, great candidates for the future...hoping👍
👍🏼😊
@@timfriday9106"Frenemies" is just going to remind people of Ethan and Trisha which is NOT branding this company wants lol
@@Lina_unchained i dont even know what that means...
I love when Tim’s on to remind people of old school conservative talking points like “immigration is good for the economy” and “tariffs don’t punish other countries- they basically impose a hidden tax on American citizens”!
Those aren't conservative talking points, they're liberal talking points. It's just stuff that conservatives were willing to give ground on in order to try to attract liberals away from progressives/leftists that dominated in the FDR-60s era. The ones they succeeded in winning over called themselves 'libertarians' and made up a decent part of the GOP coalition, but they weren't actually very conservative, and ultimately they have been run over by more genuinely conservative factions of the GOP coalition: the religious right and ethno-nationalists chiefly among them. The GOP still needs their money since libertarians tend to be libertarian out of business interest, and thus wealthy potential donors, so they get tax cuts thrown their way in exchange for the big money donations and super pacs, but rhetorically they're practically cast out of the public sphere; except on gun rights. That's something that both libertarians and white nationalists are in favor of, though you can always tell the difference by seeing how they feel about non-whites walking around strapped and how they feel about non-whites getting gunned down by scared cops who are afraid they might be armed. Apart from that, nowadays both parties are going hard after the blue collar vote, so economic populism gets all the airtime.
Didn't Trump hurt the farmers with tariffs?
@@lindaflesch7303 Yes. He promised them the tariffs would only hurt China and then, when American farmers were inevitably hurt, he had to provide subsidies to pretty much bail them out of the mess he created.
@@nHautamaki Tariffs tend to be more of a left-wing protectionist policy, but also do happen with heavily nationalist movements, regardless of political leaning. I don’t know how old you are but in the last 15 or 20 years, you may be correct but over the broader scope of American history that’s just not true
@@jolness1 Tariffs are just anti liberal populism, where populism can be defined as 'policy that doesn't work the way people think it will, but is popular anyway'. It can be done by populist illiberal regimes for conservative or for egalitarian (aka leftist) reasons. And in fact many authoritarian regimes deploy a blend of both egalitarian and conservative policies. And this kind of analysis works on any human society of any time period, not just America of the recent past.
Stephen Miller is a monster.
To be specific, a vampire.
Indeed
Hate incarnate.
@@TheHSIHPa vampire AND a zombie
@@carlosbond5062 because of Stephen Miller, a new horror film genre has been created.
Can't people be against BB and Hamas and be pro Israel and pro Palestinians? Is that too complicated a thought?
It's too complicated a thought for our reductive media who feel like they have to boil down every issue so a 5-year-old can understand it.
It’s normal in a complex situation …
I mean… that’s how I’ve consistently thought about it. So it’s normal for me. 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly.
Apparently...
Fabulous conversation! Sometimes when the world is spinning out of control, it’s nice for us to listen to a conversation that calms things down and shows some common sense and dusts off the path forward. Thank you!
THE BEST PART OF MY DAY --> watching these two discuss the issues... wonderful !
I did not want this to end. I could listen to these two for hours..Such educated, thoughtful, well-informed podcasters together as well as individually.
More of you two would be great
You forgot humorous. They do good comedy with good commentary. Lovett is especially quick. Best.
@suzibarlow3611
You are right. The humor is one of the things I love most. I read that it is off-putting for some but we need to laugh sometime. You got it! I appreciate you.
I'd watch these two every day!
This is the fourth show im listening to tim miller talk about this topic on today. Dude is busy
Yeah…apparently he’s also doing a live show in Philly tonight as well! Dude’s probably on the same stuff Biden was on during the SOTU ;)
Well, he did defect from the elephant party after DJT was elected, he was working for Jeb!. W/O winning the popular vote, btw!
And, Tim was just appointed as leader of the Bulwark pod.
Tim is fine, he's into his job and realizes the urgency. Appreciate his logic unlike whatever Regrubs are in with their froggy voices and twitching and blinking.
I love Tim (never thought I’d say that, when he was all over the GOP!) He’s excellent on The Bulwark and with Brian Tyler Cohen. Plus he’s really responsive on Threads!
Get a life
Thanks for a healthy and stimulating conversation between the two of you.
As someone who just spent 14 hours in jail for smoking weed on a sidewalk in Georgia, it makes a huge difference for young people
Sorry to hear that! My kin are from thereabouts. Are you planning to leave the state or are you a part of the resistance? 😁 🌊💙🌊🇺🇸🗳🗽
@@kookootrix1978he’s a traveling journalist who covers politics and Scientology. Not necessarily their overlap. He covers rallies and events in southern locations.
That's brutal!! Just for weed!
14 HOURS? That seems like a very light sentence. Why did they bother? It's an inconvenience, sure, but there still are people serving life sentences in Texas for smoking pot. Laws were crazy draconian when boomers began smoking...and the jazz musicians faced much worse than we did long before we were born. 14 Hours?
So glad the world has changed and you can partake. Enjoy it now--it does not work the same now that I'm old. I'd gladly spend 14 hours in jail to feel high like I did in my 20s. It's legal here in Oregon. Stores sell it every mile or so...Very strong, tho. They give you full scientific facts on every kind--dozens to choose from. Is in indica or sativa, or a combo? Is it this percent or that? Or just all CBDs and no THC? Or super-high in THC? Will it make you paranoid, drowsy, energized, mellow, zonked out, or whatever? And the world's dirtiest trick ever? I don't enjoy anything but the smell.
Schedule III will not help you with that unfortunately, unless you go to a doctor to get a prescription. It is still a heavily restricted class of drugs.
I greatly appreciate having Tim's sane, rational counterpoints and it reminds me of the "good" times between D & R parties of the past before newt and the christian right.
What good times?
@@aguijohn1321”Good” in relative terms 👀💀
@@aguijohn1321 Dick Cavett, Wm. F. Buckley, Jr. those sorts of shows were a staple when boomers were growing up. That screaming and yelling crap started in the 80s, I think...Morton Downey, Jr? A jerk named Wally George, and a guy who was a relatively sane Repugnant on TV & radio in the 60s, then ran for Congress and found CSPAN late at night--Bob Dornan. He was the 1st MTG. Ended the days of intelligent discussion tho Ron Reagan Jr tried for awhile... No computers yet so we had late evening TV shows. Not the loud band and screaming audiences, just talk...
LOVE LOVE LOVE Tim Miller!!
Jon and Tim has such great chemistry! So glad to see him on the pod and hope to see way more of those two together.
My new favorite duo 😍🥰
Finally...a nuanced, SOPHISTICATED discussion of Gaza on Pod Save America! These two talking about ANY topic is rich, candid, and insightful. More, please. Thanks in advance!
Please be a regular, Tim! Give us Crooked addicts another, different point of view voice!
Tim's got seven podcasts a week over at The Bulwark. You should check it out.
I never miss an episode of The Pod and The Bulwark.
Tim said it's hard to imagine it being acceptable to target a particular religious or ethnic group, but right after 9/11, so many Americans DID target anyone that they thought looked Muslim and treated them like terrorists, with violence, hate speech, name-calling, & discrimination!
Right?!
Yes, and the OKC bomber was assumed to be an Islamic terrorist before we found out he was the farthest thing from that. But that was also a generation ago already. And while Islamophobia still exists in terrible ways, it doesn't get forgiven from the far left the way anti-Jeiwsh hate does. "Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism" is not universally true (mainly because everyone seems to have a different definition of what Zionism actually is), but that phrase becomes a shield for plenty of actual anti-Semitism. Student groups can protest atrocities without making another subset of students feel unsafe on their own campus.
Exactly this. Glad I wasn't the only one who thought of this immediately when he said that so off-handidly.
And still ongoing today. There have been numerous pro-zionist protests in DC attended by senior (bipartisan) members of Congress that have been chock full of freakishly racist attacks on Palestinians. To put it kindly, Tim has a blind spot on this one. He doesn't even notice the anti arab and muslim bigotry as bigotry because it's so acceptable, especially in his old Republican circles.
Still do. I could not imagine a group of muslims today marching in the street not getting totally frogmarched by jack-booted riot police.
Thanks, all, for the great conversation. Keep doing the hard work. We appreciate it
Time has shown that almost every protest for progress and/or moral issues has been correct. It’s amazing that people memory hole that fact.
War is never humane.
I was so excited you brought Tim Miller to your live show in Austin!
The Time Magazine interview was HORRIFYING. There’s no way he can spin this interview in a good way. His vision of a 2025 America is 1984 Orwellian dystopia. Men and women, get out and vote! Urge your friends and neighbors to vote too. We can’t be complacent about this.
The Time magazine Donald interview reminded me of Agenda 47 and Project 2025. If he wins, the fascist hellscape will come to America.
@@lisawall9068your taxes are already paying for a white supremacist genocide. Any state that dares question the hegemonic power of American capitalism is starved or overthrown. Politicians are funded by, and act solely in the interest of, corporations. Workers’ rights are a farce. Fascism is here.
He IS 1984 incarnate
@@lisawall9068 It kind of seems that he might have heard Kevin Roberts say Project2025 is for any Republican nominee to follow, not just Trump, so he wanted his own 'blue print' more on his brand. Hence the bullet point videos with remedial sound bites vs. the 'dry' lengthy legalize of P2025. It should be noted that P2025 specifically outlines over-reaching powers he can use to overturn any State legislation he would want to. So the entire States rights narrative is completely false.
An adult who hasn’t figured out Red & Blue are 2 sides of the same coin 🤦♂️
I’ve grown to LOVE Tim too!!!!! I get excited about his hair!!! ❤❤❤❤plus he was the first Republican to say NEVER TRUMP!!!
This is such a great colab. It should go from an unofficial recurring segment to an official recurring segment.
The collab we’ve been waiting for *since Saturday*
Hey- it legitimately felt like a long wait.
@@rachels.8051crooked has kept us so fed lately tho 🥹 this felt like such a treat to see on my feed
Love you Tim!!! Your country is so fortunate to have you!🇨🇦
And you have a flag of Canada??
Um, yeah. Because the commenter is from Canada
as a fellow Canuck, I second this wholeheartedly :)
Hey it's the hatred that sucks. The way they are flattening Gaza indiscriminately is horrific. But none of that is the fault of citizens on either side of this. BIBI has gone nuts, HAMAS is nuts, and both are making radicals of young people.
Well said. The hatred is toxic!
This is just “All Lives Matter” for spineless do-nothing libs.
Absolutely agree
Truer words have never been spoken.
Why did Trump allow an interview with Time magazine? Same reasons he let Bob Woodward interview him: he doesn't read, he's not very bright, and none of his advisors could convince him how stupid this was.
And he LOOOOVES the headlines!
He wanted the cover.
Thank God his arrogance and stupidity know no bounds!! 😂😂😂🌊💙🌊🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗳🗽
@andywinger4197 I think part of it is he felt relatively comfortable with the interviewer and he also has a hard on for Time mag. Also he thinks he can convince anyone of anything, he way overestimates his ability to sway people with his BS. He thinks he can talk his way in or out of any subject or topic while most often not having a clue about what he's talking about. As many people close to him have said he's lazy AF (meaning he won't bother to study the issue)and is NOT even partially well versed on most any topic. His quote: "Who knew health care was so hard". Answer EVERYONE!
Trump wanted another REAL TIME cover. They need a bi-cover. One said his dreams of a 2d term, the other side reality! Him sleeping at the counsel table.
Look how photo-shopped this is--no ugly blue suit and long red tie. Charcoal suit and CGI to take 80 lbs off his bod, thin his thunder thighs, put the labia neck in the shadows, cover the diaper. He never looks like this. This will be hanging in every room at MAL.
Tim and Jon are an obvious match (professionally, and as content providers)! They are my 2 favorite political pundits.
What makes them so good is their media savvy. This is so important. Marshall McLuhan was right! The message is the medium is the message.
I like the way you talk Jon Levett: it’s like sand through your fingers, like doors that lock behind you, a difficult square to circle! Love it!
Love you two together!
I listen and follow both of you. It provides me with varying points of view. Thanks guys!!
OMG, Tim! MONTHS ago, I told this to my husband: I'm on Team ESH wrt the Israel/Gaza war (yes, hubby and I are avid Redditors). :)
We’re facing a terrifying future with Trump looming once again.
Trump isn't the whole problem. MAGA is.. he's just let them and their outdated and racist ideology back into the light. Sure, a percentage of people worship him.. but the scarier faction of MAGA are using him to escape the darkness
As opposed to other countries facing a terrifying future with Biden/democrats in power. The water lapping at the door might wake you guys up.
I prefer to call it dystopian, depraved, unacceptable. The word "terrifying" conveys fear, and that's what bullies like Trump prey upon.
not really. trump obama biden bush clinton
all these presidents come and go and talk a lot and all kind of shit happens, 9/11, jan 6, this, that, financial crisis, gaza crisis, at the end, america moves on, nothing happens at home, even vietnam is nothing, at everybody said it was terrifying when it was going on....... america survived vietnam too.........
Yes, he's more emboldened with every nonsensical syllable. Party regurgitates his rhetoric in Congressional Hearings, especially after their Midweek Freedom Caucus Breakfasts. Today trying to say Biden is increasing the deficit when in fact he brought down Trump's $7.8 deficit spending by a Trillion $ already. Next year's budget out so on track for decrease spending of $3.2 trillion (may be over 10 years,.like many of Biden policy). 👍
AHAHAHAHAHA!!! Why’d he do this interview? For the cover, that’s it. Omg, that’s the best answer, because it’s so true.
He has wanted that cover for a long time and was furious that Taylor Swift was on there before him. He even had a fake cover made years ago, framed it and put it on the wall!!!
Jon and Tim you guys have to make this buddy fest a weekly show at least. As an old Dem, I love this kumbaya meetup
Lovett & Miller would be a weekly show I'd watch, dare I say 'religiously'??
"I do think Biden being out there on marihuana..." Made me snort coffee
Yes!! Cracked me up too!!
❤tim and jon great combo👍
sounds like the interviewer did well at the basic task of asking Trump questions to which a yes answer is completely unhinged
Love the Tim and Jon show!!! 💚💙💛
A great conversation, intelligent, profound and honest. Thanks, Jon and Tim. Keep talking, please!
Trump thinks methepristone is some kind of racing Tire.
You two were the perfect blend, like a great cup of coffee! I hope you'll team up again soon.
100% pure chemistry here - hope to see you two reflect on everything again soon!!
Ask Trump about banning birth control.
Tim / Lovett cross over, so good. Like that Favreau / Longwell episode a while back. Excellent Gaza chat too.❤🙏 Well done guys, you always get me laughing. 😆
Bring these two together again, soon!!
Why are there any people still in jail on weed crimes? That’s number one priority I think.
Smoking it should not be a criminal offence, especially if it's smoked in a home, recreational.
I love when the bulwark and the pod have crossover episodes, the best!
Im shocked anyone is shocked.
He would do anything to get back in power and stay out of jail
Love you guy's, thank you very much Voting Blue 💙
While both parties have repulsive elements, voting blue's become terribly uncool.
PSA introduced me to Tim. Ended up reading and really enjoying his book and follow the Bulwark now too. I think there’s more crossover than you’d imagine. Tim references a “token contributorship to Crook Media” in the book. Imagine that ship has sailed but more of Tim and Jon please. Maybe a road trip to a swing state or two closer to the election?
This was great! More of Jon + Tim!
Great show! Thanks Jon and Tim!❤👍
Fantastic job gentlemen!
Wow,Tim without a hat . Never seen that .. I like it . Good conversation!!❤️💯
He's a babe, no doubt.
Tim has really good hair🙂
You two are ying and yang for each other!! Loved your banter. Your differing perspectives are enlightening and encouraging, but so powerful as well. Please do more together. You are both Sooo entertaining and humorous!😂
When is Tim sleeping?
He's using Biden's leftover cocaine, duh! 😂
Tim Miller has his fingers on the pulse of Donny Narcissistic Personality Disordered Trump's core motivations: the Don needed a framed magazine cover to stare at himself... "You're so vain, you probably think this magazine is all about you."
If only Hillary and Wasserman Schultz hadn't kneecapped Bernie Sanders.
Basically:
opposed to Netanyahu
opposed to Hamas
opposed to murder
opposed to hostage taking
opposed to genocide
opposed to homelessness
opposed to starvation
opposed to using human
shields
opposed to volunteers/aid
workers being killed by
belligerents
opposed to senseless
suffering
opposed to waging war to
stay in office
opposed to US taxpayers
paying for the bombs
opposed to the silencing of
student protesters
opposed to the opposition
of peace
Trump and Maga is what you're explaining. As for me and mine we will vote blue for Bieden and all democrats right down the line up and down the ballot to give president Bieden the house and senate to get the job done for all Americans even the ones who would vote against themselves because that's what they all do. Vote blue 💙.
At the risk of sounding glib (but with whole-hearted enthusiasm): Ditto.
I’d also add:
•Opposed to unwelcome, illegal, oppressive settlements on the West Bank.
•Opposed to the open-air prison Gaza has been turned into.
•Opposed to Netanyahu colluding with Hamas for years, sponsoring their rise to power.
I agree with you 💯 percent
Agreed
Thank you for another excellent episode. Jon & Tim, I hope that you don't mind my saying this, but you 2 aren't just informative, but seriously adorable together 💙
Agree!
Thank you guys.
Check out the Gavin Newsome ad with the police pulling over two young women “heading for the border” and requiring them to take a pregnancy test.
I saw it. I’m past child bearing and I am absolutely voting for the women coming up. It for their bodies to be property of the state.
@@courtneybrubaker9738 " It for their bodies to be property of the state."
sooo ... what are you voting for?
it's REALLY not clear.
@@saturday1066 I thought it was very clear!
A Newsome ad aimed at Alabama I believe?
@@saturday1066 just one more Google screw up with talk to text
Great Podcast guys! Thank you.
Enjoyed!
Love Tim so much.
One of the most salient takeaways from the interview, in my opinion, is that it shows Trump's decaying cognitive abilities. I think he goes back and forth because he doesn't know what he thinks, he can't think through the issues anymore, and he's stumbling around trying to say something that can't go wrong even when he is unsure about what's being discussed.
Yes, he was never interested in policy, only in the pomp and circumstance. So he can’t remember enough of the details of various policy questions to give coherent answers now.
Great conversation. Thanks
14:27 a “team of Competent Sociopaths”- YES TIM!!! I know I’m more left-wing than you but I love the way you’re using your voice to try to reach conservatives and you’re someone I could absolutely have a drink & friendly debate with! Always enjoy the Bulwark & seeing you on PSA ❤
This was such a great episode!
Trump is like a terrible Giardia infection. We have to stop drinking the swamp water
Tim Miller is great because now he can see both sides of the fence. Anyone, especially republicans, who don't see that refuse to accept a hand up the ladder
Tim Miller is a national treasure. His podcasts about the Orange Traitor are spot on. Just love listening to him skewer the Orange Traitor.
I doubt very much that Trump could name the two states, much less find them on a map.
People are saying in the Caribbean, near Turkey.
It's hard to remember all 81, you know.
Trump, at his rally today had the gall to say that he would protect women more than anyone.
So they'll get paid? 😂
He is Such a liar
excellent discussion, thank you.
Tim was on a heater today, great takes and perspective!
Two brilliant gay political guyz discussing abortion/IVF; I love this country (no fucking sarcasm here…)
Tim goes, “are we gonna do a blunt right now?”😂😂
32:05 As an Australian I wish the US would hurry up and fully legalise weed and force Australia to do the same. Just like they forced us to ban weed in the first place back in the 30's (or around that time).
Miller and Lovett. 👏
Great conversation. You guys always deliver.
These crossovers are the best!!
Tim's a superstar on video. Good get!
Tim is the first person I have heard in a long time who seems to be able to say what I believe: ESH!
Hi Tim, "Competent sociopaths." Good assessment, super scary and ironically funny. Love the dark humor.
Good stuff Gentlemen
"It would be nice if some protestors had signs saying: by the way Hamas sucks too." Top tier what-about-ism there.....
I think the Atlantic article Tim was referring to was by Caitlin Dickerson. She won a Pulitzer for her reporting and it was very well-deserved. I would recommend the full read of her articles on the subject to everyone.
It's Eric Cortellessa for Time magazine with Trump on the cover. It came out yesterday. Tim interviewed Eric on the Bulwark today.
Very informative and thoughtful discussion - this is what I miss most about politics, being able to talk to each other.. nothing is either/or, nothing is my way or the highway, and there are solutions to problems within reasonable, logical and clear eyed thinking, not all cold blooded and cruel and narrow minded and petty..
Very refreshing to hear a great discussion. Thank you. Unfortunately, you are not going to reach a large part of our population.
Important clarification for Lovett, Tylenol is an unscheduled, over the counter drug, like alcohol or tobacco. It's only Schedule III if it has codeine in it, which is schedule III.
As a longtime cannabis legalization activist who has worked for two legalization campaigns - Schedule III is not legalization, not even where I live in California.
Schedule III is only legal with a doctor's prescription, filled by a pharmacist at a pharmacy, which only lasts for 6 months. All state legal markets are written assuming cannabis is federally illegal, not legal in one specific context only. Many states, CA included, are written to amend if federal law changes, so it's an open question how this change will impact dispensaries.
There is a real chance the change to Schedule III will lead to a court case to shut down all existing cannabis businesses. No one really knows, which is why we ALL need to submit public comments when that comment period starts.
Schedule III also DOES NOT end people being jailed for cannabis.
They're fine with that, they love authoritarianism
I hope that this is shareable! I've been looking for a breakdown of this subject to share with my 34 yr old nephew. Hopefully, he will share with his friends and so on. ❤️✌️
which is "this subject"?
@@saturday1066 did you not read the thumbnail?
There should be a "share" button right next to the thumbs up sign. It will give you a number of ways and platforms to share on, but I usually just use the "copy link" option so I can send it to people on whatever platform without having to click through the share process every time.
lovett and tim are a great duo!
This interview should be in every OB/GYN’s office in the country.