Princess Marie of Denmark Breaks Her Silence Since The Queen's Decision!
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
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Their Royal Highnesses Prince Joachim and Princess Marie of Denmark break their silence after Her Majesty The Queen's decision.
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Mārie should have stayed in dignified silence. Joachim did not say boo when his boys' mother the then HRH Princess Alexandra was stripped off her princess title. Both of them should be quiet. The Queen explained that this had been a long time coming. They chose to live away from Denmark. Not couth to go to the media.
Alexandra lost her title of princess when she chose to divorce Prince Joachim. She got the title of countess instead - not that that sort of titles has any value in Denmark.
They did not choose to live away from Denmark. Joachim is working as the Military Attaché in Paris at the Danish Embassy.
Their names are not being taken from them. Its just a title that makes one feel better than others
No. The title is their name - Prince/Princess of Denmark is how they have been know since birth. It is not of their choosing but passed down through the blood lines in a monarchy.
So at school the little girl is called Princess of Denmark? She doesn’t have a given first name? It makes it sound like she or they use the Princess title to elicit special treatment.
Correct. Little Madam Mary who stalked Freddie till she got the title, now can’t wait for the crown, she appears to be very devious in getting her own way. Mary has a problem with anyone stealing her limelight. This decision of removing the spare # 2 heirs Royal titles is not unique. Sadly The younger prince couldn’t cope with Alexandra’s intelligence, so along came wife number 2. The two boys never ate a meal with their parents till they were 5 years old. That is very strange.
@@luisademora9141 the little girl is called Princess Athena.
@@margolenney6032 You've been reading too much tabloids.
Apparantly this was spoken about years ago so they knew it was in the pipeline. My guess is that they just tried to ignored it all, so in the end Queen Margrét just cut it off . They should have been like Princess Anne who called her children by the first name. Why should a little girl be called a Princess at school ? That's ridiculous.
I worked in a Prep school in Ealing , where one of the teachers had taught William and Harry at their Pre-Prep Schooi in London . The boys were called by their first names by both teachers and other boys. In the Prep school I worked in , we had 2 boys who were the Grandchildren of the King of Saudi Arabia. They were just called Zaid and Nidal , and were very pleasant boys although Zaid was rather lazy and did not do his Prep properly . He went to Eton with Prince Harry , and Nidal went to Westminster . Nidal was very clever and very good at Maths . At Christmas and end of year we were given "goody bags "" with scarves , jumpers etc,from Harrods.The two mothers were lovely ladies and did not wear Hijabs. For some reason the two Princes were not sent to King Fahad academy , founded by their grandfather. It all happened a long time ago
Yes, George, Charlotte and Louis are not called Prince or Princess at school.
@@patsimpson7834 Yes, they may not be called prince/princess at school but in all other public places, they are known and addressed by their titles.
Yes. But they didn’t know the announcement had been moved forward nor that the date would commence earlier and they were not told the announcement was coming. That is just appalling communication. Margrethe has acknowledged this in her statement of apology.
There are children who have nothing, it's very hard to shed tears for a title change for ultra-privileged children.
Factually, yes, I agree. Emotionally, it's just a 'b!tch move' from Granny, as they call that.
If it was for reasons of slimming down, then she should have instated the rule to take effect for future grand children of the monarchs. If you take away something already assigned, then off course people will speculate what the reason is. It will be questioned if the children themselves and their behavior had anything to do with that decision. It certainly makes it look like that. Now, probably it was the behavior of the parents that triggered it, and in that case definitely a b**** move.
The children did not lose their names. They lost their titles. It is a good life lesson, understanding the difference between a right vs a privilege and how you define your sense of worth. You beg for disappointment the moment you feel entitled to anything that someone else has the right to take away.
They have got 3 surnames they can use-- Henriksen, Glucks burg, or Montpessat Crown Prince Frederik used Henriksen when he was at Harvard University. On our Queen's death certificate , it gives her surname as Windsor.
Their titles as Prince/Princess of Denmark are their names as well. It is also their birthright as they are children of a Prince of Denmark - that is how monarchy works - through blood lines.
@@MTMF.london Their titles are not part of their name, no more than being called “Miss” “Mr” “Ms” or “Mrs”. In effect the monarch has said they will not be called by the honorific they were previously known as. It is the same as if I said to a 10 yro ‘you no longer be called Miss just by your name’. I do not think it is a huge deal.
They are milking the victim role. Sound familiar?
Prince and Princess are so much a part of their name that talking the title away is changing their names. The first idea Prince Joachim was presented with was to remove the title when his children - one at a time - turned 25. Good idea as they would have finished their education, started their first job using that education - in effect creating their own titles. Now they all get their titles removed with 3 months to get used to that idea. Nice done granny 🤔 - not really.
Wow, what a tragedy for them. People are struggling just to survive the world over and they have to “deal” with a title being removed their kids names. Entitled much?
Princess Royal Anne chose no titles for her children, as did Price Edward and Sophie. I think it’s likely not a big deal if you turn it down but infuriating to have taken away. Human nature.
did you listen? she is concerned that they were given no notice , which is what YOUR grandmother would have done
And, they’re giving a substitute title too! Sad 😢😭
@@Jack-py3cv Exactly. They feel snubbed---and so would I, if I had been used to living in their circumstances.
I get it. It seems ridiculous to us normal folks, but if that’s always been part of your core identity as a person and it’s just taken away; that would be very hurtful and diminishing. I’m SURE those kids are getting bullied like crazy! It was handled badly.
I love most royals. Princess Marie shouldn’t have compared it to bullying though. Also, speaking to the media?! Tacky. IMO
I think there’s so much more to this story. I think they have felt ostracized and less important for a long time. And I feel like this was an unnecessary move from the queen. There’s no money involved, so I don’t get the need for this.
Princess Marie, has always been kind of jealous of Crown Princess MARY; it is a similar situation as that of Princess Katherine and Meghan Markle, although not quite the same.
She didn't compare it to bullying. She said her children were bullied and made fun of at school - we all know how cruel children could be. Speaking to media is probably the only way for them to air their feelings as apparently neither the Queen nor the Crown Prince have spoken to them since the decision was made, which is a shame. There is definitely a complete communications breakdown happening here.
@@jamesoconnor7143 no dear, Princess Marie is not jaloux of the crown princess. And you can't seriously compare Princess Marie to Meghan Markle 🤣
@@goodgoodgood321 do not compare Princess Marie to Meghan Markle.
I think the Danish Queen made the right decision. The way they are behaving after hearing news makes me think they don't deserve any title. Saying they are suffering because of it is ridiculous. They want to experience what real suffering is!
Matthew 19:30 The first will be last, the last will be first.
@@lindapatterson6993 true
That’s exactly what I thought, this public whine is making them look bad, which justifies the queen’s decision. They were too entitled, so the queen downgraded their titles. Makes sense.
@@izzy4575 You got it backwards. She made the decision and announced it publicly without properly informing them first. That is why they complain. Entitled? Monarchy? Who's joking?
@@izzy4575 the Queen wanted their lives with less restriction and that is why the wise decision was made
It’s amazing how much the two sister-in-laws from the danish family look like each other.
They don't actually. They have the same hair colour - that's all.
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No they aren't ,what are you looks at ?
I also think the two sisterS-in-law look similar.....and they have the 'same' name, one in English & one in French.
Look a little deeper. Mary devoted herself to learning everything about Denmark, her people, her traditions and built a new life far from her native Australia. She has been a rock for her husband Frederik, her children and for the Queen. Marie has been with Joachim to have an easy life. Mary undertakes many duties and works tirelessly for numerous charities. Mary is perfect.
There are 2 sides of the coin. It is said that Prince Joaquim was given time to prepare and he said otherwise. Don't really care of whose telling the truth but if the European monarchy wants to survive and helps it's people after struggling from the pandemic and the cost of living getting high, they should do their share to help. Besides, titles don't make a man but it is on how they serve their people.
We do not need more useless entitled people in the world.
"The cost of living" - you're joking, right? Prince Joachim gets paid (and we hope he shares with Princess Marie because she gets none of her own), the Queen of course, the Crown Prince and Crown Princess, and the Queen's sister Princess Benedikte - nobody else gets any money. So, nothing gained money wise from talking away the titles.
Prince Joachim was told in May that the children would lose their titles when they turned 25. He was only given 5 days notice for the decision that they would cease as from next January.
@@carolinekofahl8867 What does Marie do for the Royal Family or people of Denmark?
@@suej9329 They’re children. The older 2 don’t work for the Monarchy. Why do any of them need titles?
The parents need to support their children on adopting to the new situation. Do not "yell" at your queen and mother publicly. I believe the Queen of Denmark is leading by example, the times are a'changing for all of us. So also for royals. It is not like they are loosing their homes (plural), money, or other standings. Really, there are some real suffering going on in the world, this is not it.
The problem is not that they loose their title but the way it was done. All of a sudden - and everybody all at once. Informed by the staff. Nice granny - not really.
@@carolinekofahl8867 I don't understand why the Queen did not do the way her cousin the Swedish King did. They removed most of the secondary line of succession from official royal roles but let them keep their titles. No drama, no angst.
@@MTMF.london It may depend on what rights and privileges the children would automatically have because of their titles. This may not be the same in Denmark as in Sweden.
@@carolinekofahl8867 Joachim has known this since May 2021! So just stop it - you and Joachim both!
@@mockingbird3564 True, Prince Joachim knew in May that the children would lose their titles when they turned 25, but was only given 5 days notice that it would be brought forward to 1st January next year. He had little time to prepare his family and received the information through a palace aide not his mother. It’s the breakdown in communication that has hurt, they feel ostracised.
The two oldest grandchildren,the sons, were using their titles disrespectfully. I think that send the Queen over the edge. Not only were they not working for the Danish Monarchy, but they were on instagram half naked selljng products.If they want to be models fine,but without titles.
I am ASTONISHED about the Denmark Situation!!!😨.thanks for your report!!!
The Denmark Queen did the right thing for her monarchy. I believe the second son and his wife knew that she was cutting them in May but refused to believe the Queen would follow through with it. Now they want to appear all hurt.
In May Prince Joachim was told the titles would be removed when the children turned 25. Good idea. How it was done instead - bad idea.
Are bad ideas good for the monarchy 🤔 not sure.
If the queen had 4 kids, then she will remove titles of the 3rd and 4th kids' children? Hope that's what Charles do if his reason is downsizing the monarchy because if he singled out only Harry and Meghan, it shows he's not a fair ruler and a good man, practicing favoritism and not a fair person.
These people are so entitled it’s shocking.
To ask if they're no longer princess is NOT BULLYING. It's a normal inquiry. Bellyaching whinners sounds like.
Good Grief, what a whiny couple this is. Loose the names?? Not hardly. Another spare, throwing a fit. Margrethe knew what she was doing. Always respected that, Lady. May God Bless the Queen of Denmark.
I'm sorry but Joachim and Marie going on about their children just sounds like sour grapes. I think Joachim thought he'd get his way and believed his mother wouldn't follow thru.
There's nothing sour grapes about it. Prince Joachim understood that there would be no official royal roles for his children in the future but believed that an agreement was reached to wait until they reached the age of 25 for removal of HRH titles. The sudden shift of moving forward within 3 months and finding out about it in the news is the crux of the problem. The act seems very vindictive and he rightfully feels hurt and humiliated.
@@MTMF.london .... Agree .... It's big bro + wife, politics!
What’s wrong with this people.. just move on like other people.. it’s a title.. not a working royal.. just want the free ride..all they need to do is do their job as parents and explain it to their children in wisest way...
I can't believe this entitlement. There is nothing at at all wrong with asking children to make their own way. They are still grandchildren of the Queen. They can take tips from our terrific Princess Anne's children.
Princess Anne's children were never given titles (she wisely refused them) and then taken away later.
That’s all fine just don’t ask any of rhetoric children to do anything work wise or charity wise for the Royal family as well as the children and family being willing to go and spend time with the family. Personally I don’t think it fair to have an heir and then shit on the rest of the family. Just have one to take over and don’t make others suffer. Personally I wouldn’t have anything else to do with the rest of the family and strike of on our own.
Let's stop pretending that this woman did not do this to be spiteful to her son or her former daughter-in laws. She singled out half of her grandchildren.
@@annc6046 Ha ha ha ha
Wow, starting to sound a bit familiar to UK viewers…
It is the right thing to do.
The way they carry on says a lot about them.
And the Queen communicating through the staff says a lot about her.
@@carolinekofahl8867 Apparently, they’d already talked about this but he didn’t believe the Queen would follow through. I wouldn’t have talked with them either . Listen to how adult they are now?
It's the queen's decision not her son's
Still wrongly executed.
Wow ! It demonstrate that in every family has issues
Ingolf would have been King of Denmark today. He lives nearby and is a very nice and down to earth person.
The only thing "complicated" is, that Joachim has always felt much more royal, than the rest of the family. He's known for throwing a tantrum, if he's not sufficiently "respected" as the prince that he - for now - is.
If it's such a misery, being the "spare", maybe we should remove all "seconds" and their children from the Royal Succession, AND the public funding!
You don't know how Joachim really feels - you are just making conjecture based on nothing. The whole point of a "spare" in a monarchy is to safeguard the line of succession in case something happens to the heir to the throne.
Yes, remove all the lesser royals from the line of succession, but titles are what monarchy is all about and they are passed through blood lines. Prince Joachim's children being the grandchildren of the reigning monarch, they ought to keep their titles just like Prince Frederik's children get to do. And none of the grandchildren gets any funding from the public except for Prince Christian, who is the heir of Prince Frederik.
Can you give some exampels of Joachim feeling more Royal than the rest of the family?
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The Danish royal family is a worldly sophisticated and wise family. The children of prince Joachim will make their way in the world. They will be ok. Queen Marguerite know what she is doing.
Joachim and family have to move forward now and get on with life.
They will eventually be OK. But the children are suffering now - they are bewildered and hurt and can't understand why or how it was done. I think the Queen may have good intentions of slimming down the monarchy but she botched the process quite badly. She should have given them enough time to get used to the idea rather than taking the titles away immediately. I also think they should be able to keep the titles but not official working royals like the way their cousins do in Sweden.
There are also many more distant Danish royals keeping their titles of prince/princess without any official royal roles in Denmark - the children of one of the Queen Margrethe's sister who is married to the exiled Greek King, have dual titles of Prince/Princess of Greece and Denmark. How do they get to keep their titles while her own son's children's titles are stripped away. It does not make sense to me at all.
@@MTMF.london The older two boys are modeling, which is not a profession that is viewed as acceptable for a royal. It is acceptable for an aristocrat, but not a royal. I'm sure this sentiment aided in the decision.
Oh Joachim is so whey faced and shocked if his backend isn't being kissed. His missus isn't far behind, as if her poop don't stank.
Joachim´s children have 3 enormous homes in Denmark, London, Paris, and Hong Kong. What more do these people want. Get a life.
@@staceynybeck They were never given official royal roles or duties. They both are studying at University and do the odd modeling on the side. It has nothing to do with the decision.
Nice video, thanks for sharing & Godspeed!
It appears to me that the parents are feeding their hurt and anger into their children. These kids absolutely did NOT lose their names at all-they lost their titles. In the case of Athena, I certainly hope that her school mates were NOT expected to call per Princess Athena at school! THAT would have been more alienating than anything! I'm sure their titles were only used in formal settings or by the media when talking about them. The parents are being ridiculous. This exact thing just happened in Sweden and their was no big brouhaha or if their was, it was handled behind closed doors. These parents totally show entitlement at its ugliest and they are not setting a good example for their children! they should be teaching their children how to respond to bullies in a calm, truthful manner.
Spot on.
Instead they should teach children to know that tittles don't make you a better person but your actions.
OMG. There are more real and serious problems in the world than losing outdated titles and entitlements! It's hard to have empathy in this case where there is no real issue to begin with.
If the titles are outdated, then the whole "monarchy" thing should be done away with it too.
@@MTMF.london perhaps.
These titles come with monetary gain. That's the issue.
@@hibiscussunflower5916 No, they don't. None of the Queen's grandchildren except Prince Christian gets an appanage from the Danish State.
Raising a child in an atmosphere that no one is better then any one else is more healthy, on every level. The adults raised their children how the saw fit. They forgot to factor in change in raising their children. The adults limited their own offspring.
How is Athena being bullied? She not old enough to understand. Unless parents put that in their heads.
Exactly!
I don’t know where you live, children are the worst bullies in the world. She does know and understand what bullying is and if a child says she is being bullied, then you take steps to find out what is going on and validate their feelings.
She is 10 years old, certainly old enough to understand being bullied. She has been picked on and made fun of at her school for no long being a princess.
@@MTMF.london Maybe if she had registered at school without her title, then she would not have experienced any issues.
@@mtngrl5859 What makes you think she was registered with her title at school? It is a very small world and everybody knows who she is and who her parents are. Even in UK, the children of William/Catherine are not registered with their titles at school but everyone knows who they are and they are addressed by their titles in public.
when your the second born, you are always going to be on the outer and they should just explain and prepare their children for being count and countesses, I mean it's still a title and we really don't need all these prince and princesses running around if they aren't in the main line of the royal line
When you refuse to complete your military service and become a model, while ignoring royal obligations, it is time to go.
They were not given any responsibilities to carry out.
I agree. His brother just dropped out out of the military as well. Joachim is a disgruntled spare. His wife is jealous of c p Mary. They remind me of Harry and Meghan. They knew the score when married.
Exactly!!!
Thanks again for the current updates!
Really? Your kid is no longer a "prince"?! Millions of innocents are being abused and suffering around the world! This is so stupid!
Sounds like the former spares have issues being a former spare
Yeah, but what kind of life is a spare? You are on hold until the heir has his own heir and spare, then told to bugger off.
@@MTMF.london 800 years ago, it was a royal "tradition" to behead the spares, when they were no longer of use. Joachim should count himself lucky, that not ALL TRADITIONS have survived till this day and age.
I feel for Prince Joachim's kids. It's not like he, Princess Marie, or their kids did anything wrong. There was no good reason to take away their titles. It's one thing to say "you're not going to have as many privileges," but to take away something intangible like that is just plain mean.
Oh for goodness sake! Someone saying *your not a princess anymore* isn't bullying! Getting punched or pushed around (physically) is bulling! Get a clue, people!!
Bullying is not just about physical harm. Psychological abuse is also bullying and cause as much harm. Sometimes words hurt more but people don't pay attention because they can't 'see' the marks.
@@MTMF.london so telling someone they aren’t a princess is psychological abuse? Please!
Maybe they flaunted this title too much, and now they don’t have it. That’s why one should build character from inside out and not outside in. Welcome to the real world.
@@valeriewhite8798 I am glad you live in a perfect little world. Good for you.
I heard Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden, her brother lost his title and he said it was ok you have to go with the new times. I guess it depends if it makes you feel important or or if it isn’t a big deal. I don’t know their culture.
Hi Jane I approve of the Danish queens decision but it should have been done ten years ago when Prince Joachim's children his first and second were still children Nicolai and Felix son's with first wife Alexandra Manley were 13 and 10 years old ten years ago and the children from his second with the French girl Henrik was 3 and Athena a few months old baby that's the time it should have been done why because they all will have been used to the situation by now no big deal
Yeah, but it was a change of law (absolute primogeniture) that made Princess Victoria the Crown Princess. It used to be that no matter the order of birth, male children take precedent over female children. Victoria is the first born and Carl Philip was born later, so she rightfully became the heir to the throne once the law was in place. Besides he and his children didn't lose their titles.
@@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 Princess Marie is a woman.
Victoria’s sister & her children lost their titles too!
@@cindywillis8923 No, the children lost the HRH not the titles of prince or princess.
Why are these kids being called princess and prince by their classmates anyway🤷🏼♀️
Who said they did?
My point too!
He knew the decision but not the commencement date. Margrethe has acknowledged this in her statement.
Well my feeling is that the queen is the ruler and has the right to change it. They have to look out for the people of the country. In this day and age the monarchies of all countries are not looked upon like they were 100 years ago so it is what it is. Only the direct heirs should be treated as the heirs and not the other people in the family. The grand mother still loves them and that is what’s important.
Waaaaa waaaa I can’t be called a princess.
Prince Joachim divorced his original wife. The new wife became the premier Princess of the spare heir. Her two new children also were positioned further a than his two older boys from the previous marriage. The reality is all children have the Count/Countess then their first name then the title location. By removing the Prince/Princess from ALL the children it makes it far easier to not discriminate between who is more senior in duties of the future or if they start antics to break away from the family like the Sussexes. It avoids placing the spare heirs children in unnecessary “choices” or obligations that could be refused and ensue a fight. It is a diplomatic measure and a wise one. This hysteria of getting upset about the demotion is absurd. Children never comprehend everything anyway. Many adults can’t often. The parents still have a great working position. Despite the remarriage. The ex wife also lost her Princess status and is a Countess so seriously. They are fine.
I liked Joachim’s first wife Alexandra, the Countess of Frederiksborg, sadly she couldn’t put up with his bullshit so they divorced.
Their children are more grounded as well they were raised by Alexandra.
since the children's father has known since May that the children would lose their titles, he should have been preparing them ahead of time. If they were promised to keep them until age 25, and the Crown reneged on a promise, that is a different thing
Get over it Joachim, there is worst things in life.
I hear about the British royals a lot so thanks for the news about world royalty.
Wonder what their objective is, those royals who give interviews to the press. Will public opinion change the decision? Can't relate to their problems.
My guess is they’re like Harry & Meghan & are hoping the media will change her mind. Ridiculous
This royal family lacks originality.
The Danish Crown Prince meets and marries Australian Mary Donaldson.
His brother, after discarding his first wife, finds and marries his own Marie. She is almost a carbon copy of his brothers wife.
Quite odd.
Marie does not look remotely like Mary. The only thing similar is their hair as both are brunettes.
Greetings from Canada I have to agree with the queens decision of her grandchildren
Good for you. Being a Dane I disagree.
Living a life in the lap of luxury and they are totally out of touch with the real world
You've got it wrong.
Their world is as real as yours.
I agree with Marie they should have been told with time to give them time to prepare and adjust their children. They should have just taken the hrh style and upon marriage title change to count/ess
Hard to feel sorry for the Danish royals because the youngest generation lost their titles... while I can understand it might be upsetting, it's not like titles are necessary for their survival. And from what the parents are saying, they are trying to guilt the Queen and get the public's sympathy by talking about how it has hurt the children repeatedly over and over. Come on though, it's not the serious hurt of living in poverty, losing a family member, etc. It's simply losing a title. I also wouldn't call it "bullying" that other kids have asked her about it. Too many attempts to manipulate the public to get what they want...
Just because they're losing Prince and Princess,they will still have titles of His and Her Excellency Count and Countess Monpezat(sorry if misspelled)
I hardly doubt that 9 year old kids are watching royal updates and questioning the Danish royal kids about it.
The Danish Royal Family have 5 other people in line for the Throne , before Prince Joachim and his family . Princess Margaret of Britain was once 2nd in line for the British Throne.Now her son is 20th and he has made a name and reputation for himself by making quality wooden furniture. That is how to do it , Prince Joachim.Even Crown Prince Frederik's younger children do not expect to be treated as Royals for ever , and Prince Vincent has said that he wants to live in Australia , when he is grown up. The children of Prince Joachim have a loving, extended family in France and crown Prince Frederik's children are part of a large extended family in Australia.
Princess Margaret's children and Grand children work for their living and travel by Underground every dsay to work and School. No one gives them a second look.
@@sheilanixon913 Definitely not David Linley - he is his mother's son, very imperious and snobby. However, Lady Sarah is by all accounts lovely.
This Princess Marie and Prince Joachim seem to be a lot like Harry and Meaghan, second in line, the "spare" as commonly known. The titles do not address personal character and that is what the parents ought to be concentrating on......like Harry and Meaghan, they need to settle into their privileged lives and not expect more than they deserve.
Well said.
The Queen talked about taking their titles when each child turned 25 - the youngest is 10 now.. And 5 days ago suddenly told the family that al of them would loose them by January. And this comes after the pair have felt ostracized for years, so I think you need to hear this as more than just a question of titles.
And why did this need to happen? It’s not about money, because the children were not supposed to get money from the state anyway.
When it comes to the other son, the Queen appointed his wife to a position that no one outside the Royal family ever held before. So I can’t help but feel a little bit like she plays favorites.
I think it is also unnecessarily hurtful and humiliating.
To see adults in a bubble shows their limits.
The Danish Royal family are changing as most royal families have done so and will continue to do so, even with changed titles , the line of succession remains the same , the Danish children who’s titles have changed will be free of all royal restraints and obligations , surely the parents would be pleased for them and help them with the changes instead of being so resentful and angry , only making the changes harder for their children .
It just shows you how entitled they are with these public complaints. It really makes them look out of touch and justifies the queen of why she did it.
They sounded like Prince Harry -X-Royal & Meghan Markle!
@@cindywillis8923 Although Markle is a different "package" from this lady. Markle was a nobody from the start.
@@wendygorm Oh dear, and here I was thinking that I had seen Meghan as ambassador for UN Women, and also involved since she was a child along with her mom in philanthropy but even b4 she married Harry, she starred in a very successful cable ( who doesn't have cable right?) drama called Suits, it must have been a success if she starred in it for 7 seasons, which is incredible and she came into the RF with over $5MIL USD of her own money and over 3 MIL USD worth of jewelry which she bought so yeah, she was a nobody right, keep telling yourself that. Meghan's world traveled and has done so much in India and Rwanda, look at the footage.
That is why kids have parents to teach them. Prince Joechim.
It happened in Sweden also for princesas Madeleine
And her children
She is the youngest child of the King of Sweden. She has an older sister, the Crown Princess Victoria, who has her own heir and spare(s), and an older brother, Prince Carl Philip, who also has children, so she is far, far away from being in the line of succession. The Swedish King, Carl Gustav, removed both his son and younger daughter and their families from official royal roles as part of the slimmed down monarchy but all of them retain their titles. That is how it should be done properly.
Madeleine handled it like a classy lady. No public announcements, no pity parties.
Princess Madeleine and her brother Prince Carl Phillip’s children were removed from the royal payroll, but unlike the Danish grandchildren, have been allowed to keep their prince/princess titles.
@@izzy4575 Because her father King Carl Gustav did it the right way. Her (and also her brother's) children were removed from the royal roles but they all retain their princes/princesses titles. That is why there was no fall out.
So not only Fab 4 of UK have problems 😊😉
So refreshing...NO HARRY AND MEGAN BASHING!!!
The children are still Athena and Henrik. It’s not like they’re now called Karen and Bob. Just getting rid of royal titles and keeping in par with 99.9% of the world isn’t traumatic. Think the parents are the ones having an issue, not the kids.
I know at my school, you were more likely to be bullied if you were a princess!
Alot of family strife going on ..... I wonder what set it all off
Is this about money? Do the children receive more money with a title? Sounds very spoiled... The Queen is doing what Queen Elizabeth was doing, slimming down the "family titles".....these are very wealthy people with opportunities and special events that none of us will ever have...they moved to Paris because THEY wanted to....I completely agree with HRM.....the kids WILL get over it, if the parents stop feeding it.
So why is the queen still a queen? If titles come and go why not take hers away? I think what she did was wrong. I had sweet grandmothers who were generous and loving, she’s coming off as a stingy old lady.
I love to see on royals from Europe, Africa and Asia ❤
Why is complaining now she should take the advice she gave some else
Ikr. I wondered if anyone else in these comments would remember that. Now that karma has visited, and when she ceases her caterwauling, will she remember her judgmental pronouncements and recognize her hypocrisy? Nope, because her kind never does. Otherwise she wouldn't have been so outspoken about someone else's experiences. C'est la vie, Marie.
The dispute between CP Frederik and his wife CP Mary with Joachim and Marie would appear to be part of the reason for the Queen's action now.Princes Marie described the relationship between the two couples as "" complicated "".
It is not news that two brothers and their spouses relationship is complicated. Every family has that kind of issues. However, the Queens's action seemed to have exacerbated the problem.
This is so trivial, In the grand scheme of things. Slimming down is necessary and those loosing their titles are being very petty.
Monarchy is trivial & obsolete - abolish all hereditary titles - including king & queen - of abolish none
Gina, slimming down is very necessary bcoz the numbers of relatives (hangers on) will grow exponentially n who exactly is footing the bill for their lifestyle? Isn’t it the taxpayers? If the offsprings of the monach, except for those in direct succession, could see the bigger picture, go and earn a living like everybody else. A good example of a very wise royal member is Princess Anne of Britain who didn’t want titles for her children
Apart fr that they left their country, as Harry and Markle they despise their customs and now want to take advantage of that when it's convenient for them!!!!!?? Please show some dignity
Sounds like Prince Joachim is taking after his father, Prince Henri, who moaned and groaned and complained bitterly to anyone who would listen that he didn't feel equal to his wife, Queen Margrethe, because she refused to make him a king (technically still regarded just a smidgen higher in rank than a queen, in spite of laws that changed and now the eldest of either sex can inherit the throne). It was said that Prince Henri's mind wasn't all there in his later years, so one assumes he was going senile.
Prince Joachim has known about the TITLE change since May, right? Four months ago. Why didn't he prepare his children regarding the change in TITLE, not their NAMES, before it hit the newspapers? The children still have their names. Who is changing the definition of words and saying these children don't have their names if only their titles change? Aren't they always known by their names to their school chums, family and friends? One assumes titles are not used by school children, but they are called by their names.
The way to "slim down the monarchy" starts with removing titles. Monarchies all over the world have a problem with people complaining that the royal families cost too much money and/or are too large. Two of Joachim's sons (by his first marriage) are models, so one assumes they've found high paying professions for now. They'll have to find other work if they want to keep the lifestyle to which they've been accustomed. In Great Britain the Princess Royal's offspring and Prince Edward's offspring have done just fine without royal titles; Andrew's daughters still have their titles, but they rarely undertake royal duties so they also do not have security officers unless they are doing official royal duties.
I love being a royal watcher..., but..., it's difficult to identify with "rich people's problems." Still, their education is just as bad as commoners if they confuse the definition of "Title" with "Name."
Well said
The children probably do not have a “real”last name. As HRH or HH, prince and princess they are probably known as Marie states for example as Athena of Denmark. These families should have surnames which are separate from their title. So if the Princess and HRH is removed what is Athena’s last name?
We see the same with the UK royals. One day George is George Cambridge in school, next day he’s George Wales. The legal name they should have been using is George Mountbatten-Windsor, so when the title changes the child’s name remains the same and there’s less of an identity question.
Well said, thank you. Ps, re GB Harry and Princess Pinocchio Duchess of Lies should be stripped of everything
@@myriamp.1628 Mountbatten Windsor is the surname for the children of the British royal family who don't inherit the throne William as Charles's heir is Windsor only and Prince George and sibling Charlotte andLouis are Windsor only the rest like Prince Andrews daughters and Prince Edwards children are Mountbatten Windsor and the same for Hazza and his invisible kids they are Mountbatten Windsor too The queen wanted to keep the family s original surname Windsor and only because prince Philip wanted to give his surname to their children she allowed that Mountbatten Windsor for her other three children who were not heirs to the throne like Anne, Andrew and Edward with the exception of Charles who ise surname is Windsor because he was the heir and now is the king
@@myriamp.1628 I don't think it has caused any problems with George (or the other two children) changing their name from Cambridge to Wales. Their parents would have explained that their surname reflects their father's title or name - as is generally true for most people. (Think of children whose parents remarry.)
If they had striped the HRH from children. Then tell the children that their off spring will be called Count and Countess. This would have softened the blow.
Yes, it is a lesson to learn for every Royal Family and that's true. If you want to keep your titles please stay in your own country and work there. You can't move to France or United States of America and you think you have a right to have a Prince and Princess titles because it's wrong. How come you move to France and still want to have a Titles.
Imagine the issues these people cry about...I guess being a commoner is shocking for the ones living in la la land 😂
Well, you know la la land better...
Second children of monarchs are always going to be excess baggage once their elder sibling has children.
You go straight to the press instead of clarifying it with family like Harry and MM🙄
No.
Well being? Time to prepare? Bullying? Oh please! Try having to actually see your teenager being SA. Try that trauma. Try going to authorities who re victimize your child and well, I can go on and on and on. These people complaining about how not having a tittle will traumatize children is sickening. Just beyond belief to me because unfortunately I am not the only woman who has gone through a real traumatic event. Sorry for the rant. Your channel is awesome! Xo
Just because you've been through trauma doesn't mean you get to invalidate others going through their own - even if it's lower in the hierarchy - that's the whole point - creating a hierarchy amongst siblings due to birth order is as outdated & obsolete as monarchies are. Abolish all of the titles instead of alienating younger children generation after generation. Throwing one son under a bus to preserve the older ones status is abusive.
This should be compared to children who may not share the same name as their father or the feeling of illegitimacy. I'm an American and a mental health counselor. For so many to trivialize what the children are feeling is a little thoughtless. While many of you think this change is no big deal, when something changes in a child's world, it can throw them off balance and create a lot of anxiety. Please don't tell me there aren't children in their school who couldn't wait for the chance to pick on these kids. The monarch certainly has the right to do as she wishes, but wouldn't it have been better to make these types of changes to any children born from now on? You are far less likely to miss something you never had and as monarchies are slimmed down all over Europe, the new normal is what they would be used to.
In a world where people are struggling to feed and house their families, I find this all a bit ridiculous. You live privileged lives that most of us could never imagine. This is the 21st Century, where "royalty" is growing more and more irrelevant.
Poor little spoiled kids! They aren’t taking a name they are taking a privilege! You are a second son so get over it! They aren’t leaving the family because they want mommies money!
Whatever do you mean? Prince Joachim gets paid by the state, so does the Queen, the Crown Prince and Crown Princess, and the Queen's sister Princess Benedikte. Nobody else. And it's the state of Denmark that pays 😊 no mommie dearest here 🤣
Danish royal family ………. They had notice in May , neglectful parents did not talk to their children about the changes ahead of time but, want to blame the Queen for doing what she said would happen .
They could have helped prepare the children for the changes but, choice not to ! That was very irresponsible of them !
I've always felt that Joker (ahem..Joachim) and wanna be Mary were jealous of the future King Fred and Queen Mary. This display of being butt hurt proves it and speaking to the news about it shows how unclassy and uncouth they are and have always been.
yes, I too felt that energy coming through from them, and always wondered just how close they were to Fred and Mary
How shallow that they have raised their children to identify as a title. That’s a parenting fail. If the daughter is being bullied maybe that’s a sign that your child should be in a better school.
Sounds like dad has a case of second son syndrome and he’s passing that virus onto his kids.
How judgmental of you. Their titles are how they are known since birth because their father is a prince, a son of the monarch. Nothing to do with parenting fail - it is a centuries-old tradition. It is laughable that you think a 'better' school won't have bullying problems.
It could also be a sign that the child has made much of the fact that she is a Princess.
Thank you 😁👍
Maybe the problem is that the parents made the children's only view themselves as royalty. That's their whole identity
Everybody referred to them as Prince or Princess from birth.
Princess Marie's comments are a perfect example of why King Charles shouldn't grant titles to Archie and Lilibet
exactly. so entitled. but better to do these changes while kids are young
Do not compare Princess Marie to Meghan Markle.
It it’s just unconsciously to do that to a child, not right , it stinks to let’s copy the British, like they are any good.
I wish my parents had managed to get me used to not having a title. We didn’t have a bathroom, just the kitchen sink and an outside toilet, that was worse than not having a title. Perhaps it’s time for them all to go. I don’t want a king that’s a cheat and has lost all credibility by what they all did to Diana. He never stopped seeing the blob. Good grief, he even paraded her at his wedding to Diana. Why did he had to have his mistress at his wedding,? then call Diana emotional? it was even dressed in white. No.
Jealous much? Their children and the 2 of them ARE NOT in the direct line of succession and they need to get that through their thick skulls. I really believe that these 2 have known about this since May and chose to ignore it. The direct line is The Crown Prince Couple and their children and not the 2nd son and his wife and children.
They are not talking about who is in line of succession - they know it is Frederik and Mary's children who will be in line. They are talking about taking away the titles of their children which is entirely unnecessary and very hurtful. The Swedish monarchy did the right way - they removed all official royal roles from the children of secondary line of succession but left the titles alone. The titles are hereditary and a birthright. The Danes messed it up big time.
Must be a pandemic with monarchies and second children. 😮
It makes perfect sense to me that Royal Families “Reduce the size of the “working” Royal Family Members - in other words - the members who are paid by the Government for the services done on behalf of the Government and Country. Titles are bestowed by the current or previous Head of Royal Family - not by the Government. 6:54
Most people in the comments dont understand what a monarky is. Its abouth culture and traditions.Things are not supposed to change and its not about modern times. We care abouth out royalties. We love our queen when you are not borned and raised in a monarky, I guess its hard to understand
They still live a life of luxury. Prince Joakim has a career many would love and are envious of. They can’t see it’s more about expenses than anything. So your kids aren’t called Prince and Princess anymore. Go to therapy and discuss your disappointments and grief over the change. But look past yourselves - the world does not revolve around you two and your kids. And you’ve always known you are the second son and your position would always be malleable. Enjoy and be thankful for what you do have - you are still blessed with so much, and so are your kids! Move on.
We humans are so unaware of our "blessings", the things we DO HAVE!!!!
👍👍👍👍very wise comment. Is it you Your Majesty???
Prince Joachim made $96 million between September 2021 and September 2022. He is ranked as the highest paid Prince in the world. I'm sure they can build their daughter her own school shaped like a castle.
I very much doubt your figures. The Queen gets paid approximately a bit over £10M. There is no way Joachim gets paid more than her or the Crown Prince Frederik.
apparently he is traumatised according to @maryjanedodo. One would think his bank balance would be doing a lot of healing, perhaps ask the hungry and homeless what they think, or the sick, or those working 2 jobs that struggle to get bills paid, put food on the table with little time left to actually spend with their children
Why did Queen Margaret, remove the titles?
We have two parading around with Duke and duchess monitors.
Consolidating massive and public funded royal families is the right thing to do especially if those children are not going to be "working" royals. Just saying'... but the outer family members are still wealthy, but need to start living more normal lives in the real world. They are beyond the line of close ascent. The parenting of those kids should have started a long long time ago. They sound like they have not really been living in the real world since they babies.
What is so important as princess or prince the reason being free do not need to make a living , all the citizens feed you so luxury hahaha.