I've known Rick since his 30k subscriber days... and over the last eight years, he has amassed more than 2.6 million subscribers. The only thing that hasn't changed is the relentless support and encouragement he's given me and my channel over the years. Thank you my friend for all the kind words you have said about my work and I look very forward to reaching 2 million subscribers on my Fried Eggs Golf channel... by the year 3016.
I was fortunate enough to be at LIV Greenbrier this weekend, got Bryson and Phil’s autographs, and got to witness Bryson shoot 58. I will say that I had an overall more enjoyable experience at LIV than any PGA event I’ve been too. I love watching incredible golf and the overall energy is just so great. I did think the whole time though that if you are strictly there to watch as much golf as you possibly can, go to a PGA tournament but I personally would rather go to LIV. Much more affordable and an amazing time.
So glad to hear about your positive experience, and as a LIV fan I appreciate you voicing your opinion. We as LIV fans get constantly attacked and all we really want is for others to experience the joy. Thank you. And I am super glad to hear you had a great time. I am yet to hear a bad review from somebody that went to an event.
Starting to feel the best golf is now played on LIV rather than PGA Tour thanks to Bryson setting the bar really, really high! Even if the course would not be manicured to the toughest finesse, that is -12!
@@PetSKi67 The average score was 64 and the highest score anyone shot over 3 days was 72 lol. LIV won't be around next year, so enjoy it while you can. The Saudis got what they wanted and LIV is no longer needed to them.
My wife and I were there all 3 rounds at The Greenbrier and we brought our sweet little white poochon pup. LIV was kind enough to allow us to bring her. She was on the broadcast and highlights every day apparently. We followed Bryson all 54 holes. It was a driving exhibition the likes I have never seen. Talk about long and straight. I have been to many PGA Tour events as well. The crowd was big, the golf course and golf was excellent. They play quickly relative to the PGA Tour. It was a joy to attend....
@iamaKnowbodie she lol. I heard Feherty thought she is a Maltipoo. He was close. She's a Poochon. Bryson signed her harness after round 2. They showed it at the very end of the round 2 post game show...
LIV Golf doesn't need saving as long as the PIF keeps putting money into it. The PGA Tour and especially the Korn Ferry World Tour (European Tour) is what needs saving which is why this joint venture possibility even exists.
Think of this. If PIF provides LIV with $10billion, and LIV puts that in a savings account and get 5 % interest yearly, the interest alone will cover all the costs associated with LIV forever.
LIV will not be around next year. The Saudis only started LIv to get a stake in the PGA. They got that, now they will likely shut LIV down soon (which is TANKING in the ratings). LIV is un needed to PIF. LIV was only a tool to get into the PGA
@@IamKnowbodie PIF does not give a shit about LIV anymore. Its why they stopped throwing money at PGA players. They used LIV to get a stake in the PGA. That was always their end goal. They never really wanted to overtake the PGA. If they did they would not have merged
I like shot gun starts because its totally fair. How many times in tournaments has it been windy and raining in the morning then in the afternoon the playing conditions are much easier to shoot a low score
I did not like it in the beginning, but realized for myself it was more because I was so used to start at 1 or watch players starts at 1, then I remember s time I was young and the golf course changed clubhouse and so changed the numbering and what used to be 3 was now 1 and I accepted it, so it was just a familiarity I was changing. "Progress is impossible without change, and those who can't change their minds can't change anything." - George Bernhard Shaw
Bryson had a tough year last year with losing his Father. A lot was said about him losing his form after taking the LIV money, but i'm sure they didn't know what his family was going through and it was bound to have an effect on his season. He's BAAAACK now, lighting it up with that KRANK driver and hitting bombs!! That 2 V 2 with Phil Mickelson was great and I'm looking forward to more of those videos. The LIV golf style of play definitely has it's place in today's golf world, it might bring more young people to the game and isn't that what the sport needs to grow? GO BRYSON, here's to your very bright future!! Cheers!
Also Bryson have just played 20 rounds in a row under par. That's incredible. I believe that's the longest active streak of rounds under par, on any golf League. That's basically 'almost' 7 events so far.
Watching the interview he had after his round where the person asked about his dad, I kinda lost it myself. You could tell how hard this last year has been for him and his family!
I think we all know it is impossible to play your best, if there is life shaking events in your scope. Having and knowing to have all the shots to break par is not enough to do it. You need a calm space of mind to play your best or near your best. After a rushed day at the office is not the evening usually to play your A game.
@@IamKnowbodie LIV plays on MUCH easier conditions and much easier courses (the average score in the last one was freaking 64 and not a single player shot over par lol). Its a pretty manipulative stat you pulled out.
The team concept of LIV is very much part of the US pro tour scene. All of the universities have golf TEAMS that compete as teams and encourage the esprit de corps inherent in such a competition. Also an interesting aspect is that a golfer that is "out of it" for the individual can still help his team place and even win. Everyone contributes. Team golf, Ryder and President's cups are all of the same ilk, they bring highly individual competitors together. Win, win.
I watched a Bryson video on his YT channel yesterday where he played a 2v2 with one of his teammates against Phil Mickelson and one of Phil's teammates. While I know we aren't big on the team thing, it feels like they have leaned into it quite a bit. You could see the comradere the were starting to build and how they were cheering each other on. In a sport that is so dominated by the 1v1 nature of it, it's kinda cool to see this style that's much more Rider cup-esque.
Great comment. The players are always commenting highly on the team environment on the LIV broadcasting. I come from a nation who just loves team sports, hence my country is firmly behind Team Stingers 🇿🇦
Got to say that watching Bryson make a 58 was incredible and something you won’t see again for a long time. The team aspect is actually really good, I know you both don’t get it, but then say you look forward to the Ryder cup which is a team event, so you have to look at the teams individually and see the competition as a team and not just as an individual performance. At least with LIV, everyone can watch it for free and not have to pay a monthly price to watch PGA tour comps from all the big sports broadcasters. LIV are clearly doing more to try and get more people into golf including giving people that chance to watch it.
For me if you do not like the team aspect is merely down to the fact that you have not chosen a team yet. These guys love the Ryder Cup because they have a team they support and are emotionally connected to that team. Not sure why they not Majesticks fans?
You wont see a 58 for a long time because you will almost never see such an easy course and conditions ever again. Over the whole 3 days not a single person shot a single round over par. The average score was 64 lol. 58 is damn impressive, but with context its not nearly as impressive. If the PGA played the same course you would see 58 and under many times. A course with an average scoring round of 64 is crazy
I was a LIV hater for the longest time but ever since PGA accepted their money i think of them as the same. This was the second LIV tournament I have watched and for me it's significantly better than the PGA format. LIV has a more party atmosphere, and they lean into it when each player has their walk on music. I was also against to the shotgun approach at first but what I do like about it is that it's not as much of a time commitment and I can watch all the players at the same time rather than having to watch the first tee off and it take forever to get the tournament started. not sure I can speak to the team aspect but to me it feels like they are two separate competitions, the individual vs the team. I think LIV also does a better job of showing the players talk through a put and the live putt tracer is pretty cool.
The team aspect gets interesting if you watch at least 4 or 5 events and your favourite players are doing well. Otherwise, it's a bit difficult to follow or get interested in. IOW, it's for longer term viewers.
Great comment mate. The team aspect is hard when you don't have a team yet to root for, but once you identify with a team it becomes like most team sport. I am a Stingers fan, and it's great seeing them compete as a unit, LIV also does team videos o their RUclips page where you get to know they guys of the course and see their uniqueness and comoradity.
I almost exclusively watch LIV now except for the Majors and some highlights if something big happens on the PGA. Just find it so much more easy to watch and enjoy. Always been a huge fan of Bryson and this weekend has shown that when he is on it, he is the man to beat on any tour. His driving was of course great, but his putting was just phenomenal as was his short game. It feels that LIV is truly gaining some traction and this weekend has only afded fuel to the fire. As a later edit, the team aspect is definitely enjoyed by those who are much more in to LIV as a product. It's a well supported aspect. Also, we still all enjoy the game of golf, no one wants to see the sport and traditions decimated, just improved 👍
Agree. I still love the PGA, I just dislike the broadcasting, which is filled with ads, makes me feel like I am watching golf next to the mall and car dealerships. LIV with the uninterrupted golf makes me watch 15 hours of golf over the weekend when LIV is on. For the majors, I stomach all the ads.
It's amazing how Bryson's 58 has been practically ignored by golf media. Can you imagine if one of the PGA stars did this. They would never stop talking about it, bring it up every year , and probably create a new holiday.
Golf in general has had a HUGE blow to its ratings since the announcement of the potential merger of golf leagues. Golf is a small niche sport, and the merger has lost the attention of the public. People here in America just have too many sports options and LIV isn’t really taking off here. They can’t even beat the WNBA in attendance or viewership! Hard to make something work without the American sports fans who watch the most and spend the most per capita on sports.
I’m glad I got to see Bryson get that record, was quite amazing watching him. I hope he can become a team captain because if he got to choose his other 3 teammates they might have been uncatchable in the team tournament 🤷♂️
Bryson is team captain of team Crushers, who came second this past event, and they won the first event of the season. And as a team they sitting 4th on the season long team Standings.
LIV does something that the PGA isn't oriented to do. The PGA desperately wants ONE HERO to worship, like Tiger Woods. There is no one like Tiger Woods. It's not Rory McIlroy. It's not John Rahm. The nature of golf is that there are many fantastic players and on any given Sunday, one of these guys could play fantastic golf or just excellent golf and win the tournament. There are ten or a dozen guys in LIV that could win a Major on any given Sunday. There isn't one guy that's going to win most majors. I like LIV because it doesn't hero worship and push any one guy. It's the competition that is the hero, not the made up hero.
@@IamKnowbodie You did not hear? Yes, he has been crowned by the PGA and given a royal robe and staff! The PGA will fight to change anything until its dying breath I guess! Will Tiger Woods proclaim over that?
@@IamKnowbodie We already have all kinds of new guys. That's the point. I'm not going to list all dozen or 15 or 18 of them. There are a lot of great golfers out there. On any given Sunday. Like Bryson shooting a 58, or Taylor Gooch, or Bruce Keopka, Cam Smtih, etc. etc. But the PGA wants a hero and doesn't want to change.
@@robertbrown7470 I agree with you completely. The Landscape of golf and golf broadcasting is changing in fron of our eyes, and it seems only a few is recognizing it. Humans like me and you are not convincing others to like what we like, just merely pointing out that they needs to open their eyes, otherwise they will find themselves having the same dinner reservations as Blockbuster executives.
Being competitive is a blessing and a curse. I never had the funds to take my game somewhere but I still find ways even over little things to prove I’m the best even if it’s at work painting or sweeping the floor LoL Yet for what reason I come home after 8hrs of work to take care of my kids put them to bed and then hit balls for 2 hrs
Listen, if you haven't watched LIV, you won't grasp its appeal. It's like me not understanding the NFL or MLB because I've not grown up with it, it does not mean it is not great. Once you immerse yourself in the team dynamics of LIV, witnessing underdogs defeat teams like the Aces, you'll start to appreciate the team aspect. You're primarily looking at individual players because that's familiar to you. LIV golf is thriving; it doesn't need any rescuing in my opinion. It's important to recognize that many experience LIV from diverse perspectives, not just your own.
Here is a great example of LIV going ahead, Rick Shiels have 230k subscribers and the LIV youtube page have 285k+ subscribers. If he talked nicely about a product almost 300k people on youtube alone liked, he will get a big chunk of their eyes. Just saying people are tired of hearing something they love getting dragged through the mud.
Lastly, Bryson hitting thousands of golf balls reminds me of the greatest ball striker of all time, Moe Norman. In his late 60's Moe Norman could hit the ball straight over 300 yards. Someone asked him if he could hit it 400 yards, he responded, "I could, but I can't guarantee where it would go." If Bryson figures that out, which maybe he did, he will continue to be at the top.
I appreciate you providing an honest feedback. Not my show this or at all affiliated. Just merely a human being that's man enough to appreciate honest commentary.
I was just having this convo with a young guy, about 20yo, who's an assistant pro in a very exclusive and very private (100 members or so) golf course in my area. I was playing on my own that day and got paired up with him and another young guy at the turn who were competing in some type of loose tournament format and playing head to head. Nice kids, they could hit the ball a ton. I asked the assistant pro kid this same question that you were pondering in here and I think it's a great question and one that's always stupefied me: What keeps these guys SO motivated to grind all the time -- how do they stay focused or even interested in the game? He admitted that he's lost his way before and stopped liking it and that ebbs and flows. I think these guys or anyone on the grind with serious aspirations must have an inordinate amount of OCD or borderline madness in their mental makeup. Same for anyone who excels far and beyond the average person in any pursuit, especially these days when the population is larger than ever and we're more global than ever. Talent pool has become a talent ocean. So, anyone up near the top, in golf or anything, is insanely talented with an emphasis on "insane", IMHO. Awesome topic and should be discussed more often, candidly.
Nice one Guy, I was really enjoying hearing about Rick hanging out with the legend John Daly, until you cut it short to discuss some stat that you thought was more important. Good work again.
Not that my opinion matters, but pride, competitiveness, and the Teammates pushing each other to do better are all part of the motivation. Money is a factor, but just the way some players are wired, just pushes them to be better then everyone else. Having teammates cheering you on when you are doing good motivates, and even teammates razzing you down pushes you!
LIV is class! Got me back into golf, great coverage and easy to watch! Not like boring old PGA tour events. I know what im getting with LIV. Think about all the people who dont watch pga tour, many none golf fans will tune into liv for thwt reqson.
The golf Channel had about 2 minutes of Bryson's score and 8 minutes of JT missing that chip. Which was more historic? A record tie round or someone ranked 71 missing a chip? Shows they still are not on board with LIV.
Golf is golf, but watching 5 hours of golf uninterrupted vs. Watching golf with ads every 3 minutes, is so entertaining. Haven't watched a PGA event all year long. I just Google the results on Monday morning.
Ahhhhhhh Guy is so very very PGA maxi minded still. Open up your mind and set the past in the present. This win by Bryson with 58 was incredible and aside of that a win for the one length clubs users and you should know that. Loved it all the way ... and really embrase LIV as it changes everything up and is just a great entertainment. Just like long drive championships are also beneficial for golf too. Snap out of it, Talor Gooch was a multiple LIV winner and that he is not named is terrible. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
The sad thing is we all know they are going to come around, and then probably will never say sorry for their anti-LIV stance, how many of their listeners don't watch LIV because they drinking the same kool-aid as these guys???
Majestics felt like a team in the UK because they were the highlighted team when u went. I think hi-flyers, crushers, Majestics, torque. Are team oriented.
Rick and Guy don't 'get' the team element of LIV cos they don't watch the broadcast for any amount of time. If you watch the whole thing you will 'get' the tension when the team comp is close and how it can change really quickly - regardless of whether you support a particular team or not. I really like LIV and in particular the commentary which is much more dynamic and fun and of course the fact that there isn't an ad break every five minutes is a huge plus. I find the PGA coverage tired and a bit boring if im honest.
The team concept is something new and the verdict is out. For that matter LIV is a new approach to golf so do you expect it to be polished from day one? Only unreasonable persons would expect this.
Great comment. 👍 And glad to see another human being using logic bringing up the uninterrupted experience vs. The ad driven experience. It's the uninterrupted golf experience that drives me to LIV. I watch all 15 hours of a LIV event, cannot remember the last time I watch the other tours, the golf is good on all tours, but the viewing experience is terrible.
I dont think guy and Rick realise how pga indoctrinated they are. For us who FULLY enjoy Liv and the Teams (in South Africa we are very patriotic about the Stingers!!)... Its mind boggling.
What keeps the fire in the belly of LIV golfers? The same as PGA players. Money, success, compete and most of all the LOVE of golf. Wake up and stop questioning LIV golf!
Lol, I was literally listening to the podcast today while running - the first time in over 6 months!! Unfortunately I didn’t see Rick…here in Michigan, USA. Gotta get in shape for referring soccer (football) this fall! Thanks for the fun podcast!
As I understand it Ping contacted Bryson and invited him down for a custom set of irons with all the tinkering he wanted to do. He came out with a one-length set made to his specs within a few days. Krank make the Formula Fire LD (long drive) version that Bryson uses and another USGA-conforming driver. They also have 2 high COR drivers for slower swing speeds that do not conform. As of this writing they are discounting the Fire drivers and fairways $150 which gets the drivers down to $399. They’ll also sell you just the head if you like for $429 regular price. Not sure if they’re discounting just the head. I have a pre-owned Krank Element (later branded as Formula 5) that I picked up cheap. Of my 5 drivers (others are PXG, Honma, Yamaha, Miura) it’s the most forgiving (and the loudest) and everyone who’s tried it so far is surprised at the forgiveness.
I know people will hate it, but I really like LIV, Its more of a League, I know whos playing each event and competing. I know its not traditional and people hate change, but i think fans of other sports will get LIV easier than the tour. you know who is playing when you watch NFL and who the competition is. the team element is great when you watch the event, it makes guys down on the leaderboard interesting during the broadcast. if you dont watch and just looking at results i can see how the team aspect isnt engaging. players though seem to like having a team around them
@@TopblokeGolf flattered that my opinion is propaganda to you. I got into golf because of youtube not the pga tour. so, sorry, different kind of fans, just more appealing to me.
In regards to player's continuing to drive...this is the same in almost every other sport too. Most players know they're not the best or their chances of winning the title are very low, but they just love competing. How many athletes play well past their prime? Almost all of them. The two reasons I've heard from athletes on why they stopped is either their body can't do it any more or their lost their drive to compete. It's almost never about not being the best.
I loved this episode. The humor seemed to be on another level that kept me laughing at your banter. So about playing old clubs I actually play a set of Wilson Specials blade irons form the late 1960's, a BeCu Ping Anser 2 putter, Cobra Aerojet LS driver, Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 5 wood, Cobra F7 hybrid, and a random set of older Vokey Wedges that includes a 1998 Prototype 54 degree. I love playing brand new clubs, but I also love the feeling that old clubs can provide. Its fun rolling up to a local tournament with my bag and getting tons of comments and questions about the putter and irons. I am also starting to put together low key rounds where you have to play vintage clubs.
LIV Golf is absolutely fine, they've just released their fantasy golf app which will help with the familiarisation of the team aspect. Guy will find that LIV Golf is like Formula 1, if you invest the time in it you'll appreciate and understand the team element a lot more than just expecting the media to spoon-feed the information to you (which is heavily leaning towards established tours, but this will change). 😉
It's becoming a laughter hearing LIV haters talking about LIV without actually spending time watching it or spending time in it, investing time in the team aspect.
Guy so biased against LIV. as ridiculous as mainstream media trying to make a huge story of JT's missed chip over a 58. lol. that's how coverage losses credibilty.
@@metalheads-golffor me it's the uninterrupted aspect of the viewing experience, uninterrupted of ads, can watch 5 hours of golf without seeing a single ad. The music and team event aspect makes it super exciting for me as well.
Money is secondary. These people that said LIV players only went for money is not thinking clearly, imagine being offered $100million and having a conversation with your wife about taking it or not, she would say ... honey with that money our lives and children's lives will be secure and all the stress we have will be gone. They made family decisions. Not money decisions. I like winning, whether I play monopoly or sport or whatever I want to win. Look at Micheal Jordan, he has a winners mentality and does kot matter what he does he strives to win. The only people talking about money as a driving force are the ones who doesn't have money.
I was at LIV Bedminster NJ at Trump National. It is a phenomenal event.... It has more of a festival or carnival feel than a PGA country club feel. It was very kid friendly.. Had ball crawl, airbrush tattoos, mini golf, baseball pitch speed radar, golf ball speed radar, bean bags and big screen tv, live DJ music, lots of food trucks, and an all around party feel. Definitely going to attract a younger audience. People who don't care about golf, but like the social scene. Looked like a lot of fraternity age boys and girls. Tik Tok video age kids. Spectacular golf.. Some of the absolute best players in the world... Shotgun start is so much better than PGA's 7:15am start... LIV has a lot of great things going for it.. Not much negative. If you don't need to see douchebags like rory, then LIV is a great field. Bryson, DJ, Phil, Patrick, Cam... Just a great lineup of great players. I went to the PGA Championship and I went to LIV Bedminster.... PGA is the bigger more established tour, but LIV has a much better more laid back atmosphere. I'll always love the PGA of course, just like any golf fan. But I'm also a big fan of LIV,, They have a great product, and put on a top of the line event. Two thumbs up for the LIV event.
Funny you were talking about old clubs. Just took my R7 Quad, Burner Bubble 2 and Ping 425 LST to the SIM today. Amazingly with my 100ish mph swing speed the difference was only 20ish yards. Older clubs are heavier and easier to swing faster with same effort but still shorter.
I think the Fire That still lights the belly is the sheer love for the Game, they are all playing professional. You don‘t get to That Level if you have Never had the Love for the Game, or if you wouldn‘t enjoy practicing and hitting balls. And living out that Love for the Game on the highest Level of competitiveness is probably the reason why they are still doing it
I went this last week end to the LIV event in Bedminster in New Jersey. Very entertaining event for families , from golf viewpoint was a bit disappointed in general quality , what I found surprising was the impression I got from Majestics was that they didn't seem to be bothered in the event. Many other players interacted with the fans especially with the youngsters , but from what I saw they didn't even make eye contact with the fans. this really surprised me as in the past you would always see Lee interact with the young fans.
I think the reason LIV doesn’t appeal to you two is because you’re golf vets who have seen golf one way for so many years. For someone like me who literally never have golf any attention until about 3 months ago LIV is much more appealing to me.
Difference between 10 and 20 hcp is often good putting and skills around the greens. Proper per centage shot selection off trouble and probably hardly ever missing on the short side, where you don’t have any green to work with.
Without LIV, PGA is headed for a Disney. Tiger isn't going to save Golf, he's going to do what's best for himself, not Golf in general. And Jay, you've got to be kidding. It's not about money with the PGA, it's about control. Not good. And some of the people at the top of the Golf World see that and unfortunately many do not.
If Guy hasn't attended a LIV event then that would partly explain his lack of understanding of the teams concept in LIV. I acknowledge it may not come through on TV as well as in person. We attended all 3 days of LIV Adelaide and the teams concept was strong. It was obvious to the course audience that the players were highly motivated by the teams event all the way through to the last putt on the last day. Whereas at a traditional golf event (4days of stroke, individual) the crowd interest on the 4th day is almost entirely on the last 2 groups and cursory interest in a few higher profile golfers. At the LIV events, there are players in groups across the entire course whose score on each hole is actively feeding into the Teams event scoring and the crowd are following the changes on big screens on every hole. As for the Lee Westwood mention, he shot +20 at Bedminster so I hope he can find his groove soon as the golf world would be thrilled to see him really compete again.
@@IamKnowbodie I work in the golf industry. We have the LIV stuff playing every time and people will come and watch and we talk about it with them. 99% of people in the golf space enjoy LIV. Sure there’s some complaints and it’s not a perfect product but neither is the PGA Tour by any means. 8 hours+ of golf to watch is just insanity. Front/back 9 tee times on Thursday/Friday rounds should be a lot more common
The fire is the love of playing golf and wanting to perform. I couldn't give a rats arse about the PGA tour. LIV has 20 players I'd want to watch every time and I love that they are playing for the same trophy each time. Every event is worth watching and the team side is an added interest which the players embrace. LIV is at the beginning of it's story, but there is plenty of buzz and players are more open to share their story.
This is it. I'll always watch LIV golf as it has the likes of DeChambeau, Johnson, Smith, Koepka etc... I'd rather watch those players over 99.9% of PGA Tour players.
I don't really think that "golf scores", will have any real influence over the investors decision making, as to the future of LIV, or team golf. Bryson's score is the only news that matters from this week, and it was a fantastic round... that earned his team second place, but no one cared about that. The Ryder Cup could be played twice a year, and people would not lose interest in it, because it has a purpose for having teams.
I really got into golf much more because of Kirkland clubs and their name brand club sets - I’m also cheap and I love when Costco puts their golf equipment on sale - Ie. both the putter and the wedges. I will buy their driver the minute they put in the store!
The team element of Liv is a little forced right now. But it is a base for something. Once things get more accepted and you may see things like team Taylormade and then you will see that brand loyalty from the fans. If they had like a team Canada with Canadian golfers I would be all over them as a Canadian.
I am from South Africa, and team Stingers is an all South African outfit, I can tell you the whole of South Africa is behind team Stingers. If the PGA didn't play the morality card I believe their would have been a Canadian team, however they would not have been able to play at the Canadian Open. And I personally think they would want to play in their national open.
Rick just talking about golf and individual players and there golf game where as Guy is obsessed with LlV itself, he must like it a lot but pretends to hate it to try and fit in, it’s getting boring now it’s golf Guy who cares what tour there on 🤔
Love the content as usual you two. Rick, please, please don't just buy a guitar from Amazon. Golf and guitars are my two main obsessions - I consider myself an 18 handicapper at both! Just like you would recommend someone new to golf to take proper advice re club selection, you'd be much better advised to go to a decent guitar shop (PMT in Manchester would work for you) and try out a range of different guitars to find the one best suited to you. Choosing a guitar can be just as complicated (and fun) as selecting the right clubs to play with and the price/quality range is equally as wide. Also just like golf there are some great RUclips guitar tuition channels (eg Andy's Guitar) which would get you started really well. Looking forward to your first guitar video!!
I play a Callaway 460 driver from 2008. Callaway Diablo Octane 3, and 5 woods from around that same time period. I play Callaway x-12 irons from 98, and Ping ISI wedges from 97. I shot -5(67) Tuesday, and +2(73) Saturday. Last fall, I shot my personal best -7(65). It isn’t the clubs, people…
What keeps the drive? The pursuit of excellence is hardwired into some people. They want to be the best soldier/sailor/spy/golfer they can be. The money is a great bonus, but the glory is the incentive. At least, that's what I think.
Interesting discussion on the LIV teams and Rick @ Guy’s lack of interest, but started the Podcast talking about Rick coming 2nd in JCB Texas Scramble, which is a 4 person team event😊
Granted Bryson had a great round to shoot 58 and there seems to be a lot of buzz about it , strange thou Stuart Appleby shot a 59 at the Greenbrier in 2010 hitting it much shorter with a Driver that has a lot less tech , to me Appleby's 59 might be even more impressive having to hit much longer irons in than Bryson's.I don't think a few great rounds on a course that the pros eat up make him a great Ryder cup pick thou but if he is picked its always fun watching him Krank It !!
The PGA had many events on this same course. I think the first year the PGA was there someone shot a 59 so it is a course you can go low on. Yes, it is a par 70 but it is still 7200 yards. They filmed a 2V2 with Bryson and Anairban Lahiri vs Phil and Cameron Tringale and the amount of thought they were putting into their approach shots to get it to the right portion of the greens showed it wasn't just some course you could just pop it to the middle of the green and guarantee par every time. Was a very fun watch, especially listening to the thought process on those shots.
You guys are wrong about the team element of LIV. It's awesome and makes for a more compelling product. Watch how players who aren't contending for the individual title still care so much about making their putts and playing well on Sunday for their team.
A lot of talk about Bryson's clubs but not much about his single plane swing (SPS). Would love to hear more about this topic. I'm a huge SPS fan and have been for thirty years.
Golf is 1 of very few sports that other athletes play on their time off. People love the game of golf regardless of how much money someone has. Rich executives leave the office to play golf. I think when people have the golf bug they just play. Why would Rory stop playing PGA when we all know every single one of the players will be playing golf until their bodies won't let them. LIV, PGA or Amateur nobody is quiting this wonderful game.
I've tried. On multiple occasions I've tried. I can't watch LIV. The F1 style leader graphic drives me crazy. The quality of the golf is great but everything surrounding it is marginal, at best. I find myself walking away from the TV and doing other things around the house. I can't put my finger on it but I just can't watch the broadcast.
I can respect this comment. You watched and decided for yourself. Those that dislike it and haven't watched it, are the ones bothering me, as they can't think for themselves.
@@IamKnowbodie It must have something to do with the shot gun start. Trying to compress a shot gun format into traditional type coverage....Something is missing and I can't put my finger on it. They made changes in format,(Team Golf, Shot gun starts) then tried to cram it into traditional coverage. If you're going to reinvent the wheel.....?
@@SwimCoach8 I get that. I personally think you just like what you used to. No disagreement in that. You know what you like and you know what you don't like. Respect to you. For me personally it's the coverage that makes me love LIV, it's uninterrupted golf from start to finish without a single ad break. I personally am a minalist and lean more towards the Cynic philosophy, so I do not like shopping or anything being sold to me constantly, and I feel the PGA and DP World Tour coverage is filled with ads, makes me feel like I am watching golf in a mall. The golf itself on all tours is fantastic, I just get irritated with the ads, so I can't stand to watch it. The shotgun start is something to get used to, and when I did get used to it, I like that all the players starting the same time and finishing the same time, they all still play the same course for me in the same weather conditions, and all players still play 18 holes, just in different orders.
@@IamKnowbodie As far as the ad content....The Saudis don't invest for fun. They are in it to make money. I question how long the no ad format can continue. Remember, this format is in its infancy. At some point the bill will come due!
@@SwimCoach8 one reasonable comment in a SEA of ignorance. This peeps thinking the Saudis invested several billion dollars without second thoughts about getting it back are DELUSIONAL, they are gathering sympathy and building an audience and then they'll pounce at your wallet way harder than the pga tour ever did, a dealer giving you free drugs isn't your friend he knows you'll eventually pay it back with interest . An investment Arab group will just keep putting FOUR MILLION $ tournaments for free after spending a billion dollars in player contracts guys, they're THAT nice 😂😂
Would love to get an episode discussing what you should prioritise spending on as a new beginner with different budgets. I.e. with a £1000 or £2000 etc. How much you would spend on clubs, rounds, lessons, driving range etc.
Q? What does it take for golf lovers to say LIV are great players and the golf is out of this world. Do they have to win a major? Do they have to be inducted into the hall of fame? do they have to compete against some of the best golfers in the world every time they play? do they have to hit a 58? The answer of course to all of those questions is LIV has been doing all of this from day one and yet you two guys just can't seem to get your head around the LIV concept. Is it golf or isn't it golf? Is it competitive or isn't it competitive? Seems pretty clear to me and many others.
The play was great by Bryson, but I think it's a testament to the way LIV has been setting up their golf courses too. The guys utterly destroyed the Greenbrier, as it was just a birdie fest of them throwing darts, at pin after pin. Fantastic play indeed! But Bryson almost had 2 rounds in the 50's with a 61 in his 2nd round also. They need to set the courses up a bit tougher, otherwise this will happen again sooner than we think.
I've known Rick since his 30k subscriber days... and over the last eight years, he has amassed more than 2.6 million subscribers. The only thing that hasn't changed is the relentless support and encouragement he's given me and my channel over the years. Thank you my friend for all the kind words you have said about my work and I look very forward to reaching 2 million subscribers on my Fried Eggs Golf channel... by the year 3016.
Latest song is fire, stuck in my head!
Just subscribed
Same song is awesome
You personally met him and yall consider each other friends? Or you have been a fan since 30k
I was fortunate enough to be at LIV Greenbrier this weekend, got Bryson and Phil’s autographs, and got to witness Bryson shoot 58. I will say that I had an overall more enjoyable experience at LIV than any PGA event I’ve been too. I love watching incredible golf and the overall energy is just so great. I did think the whole time though that if you are strictly there to watch as much golf as you possibly can, go to a PGA tournament but I personally would rather go to LIV. Much more affordable and an amazing time.
So glad to hear about your positive experience, and as a LIV fan I appreciate you voicing your opinion. We as LIV fans get constantly attacked and all we really want is for others to experience the joy. Thank you.
And I am super glad to hear you had a great time. I am yet to hear a bad review from somebody that went to an event.
Starting to feel the best golf is now played on LIV rather than PGA Tour thanks to Bryson setting the bar really, really high!
Even if the course would not be manicured to the toughest finesse, that is -12!
@@PetSKi67 The average score was 64 and the highest score anyone shot over 3 days was 72 lol.
LIV won't be around next year, so enjoy it while you can. The Saudis got what they wanted and LIV is no longer needed to them.
@@ben1ben2ben1 Typical childish response, grow up ffs
I watched LIV live on YT and when Bryson holed the birdie putt on 18th I stood up screaming. That was an amazing run.
I watched that clip of his put and jump and Arlo White screaming from excitement about 55 times now. I still get goosebumps.
He is on the LIV tour though so he isn’t good at golf guys.
@@brycemankiewicz6407 didn't he win a US open?
Me too
@@brycemankiewicz6407you clearly got ptsd from Koepka winning the PGA Championship.
My wife and I were there all 3 rounds at The Greenbrier and we brought our sweet little white poochon pup. LIV was kind enough to allow us to bring her. She was on the broadcast and highlights every day apparently. We followed Bryson all 54 holes. It was a driving exhibition the likes I have never seen. Talk about long and straight. I have been to many PGA Tour events as well. The crowd was big, the golf course and golf was excellent. They play quickly relative to the PGA Tour. It was a joy to attend....
I saw your little dog on the broadcast. He was adorable.
@iamaKnowbodie she lol. I heard Feherty thought she is a Maltipoo. He was close. She's a Poochon. Bryson signed her harness after round 2. They showed it at the very end of the round 2 post game show...
LIV Golf doesn't need saving as long as the PIF keeps putting money into it. The PGA Tour and especially the Korn Ferry World Tour (European Tour) is what needs saving which is why this joint venture possibility even exists.
Insiders have said a few more years of poaching the best players and PGA is dead. That's why the merger is happening.
Think of this. If PIF provides LIV with $10billion, and LIV puts that in a savings account and get 5 % interest yearly, the interest alone will cover all the costs associated with LIV forever.
LIV will not be around next year. The Saudis only started LIv to get a stake in the PGA. They got that, now they will likely shut LIV down soon (which is TANKING in the ratings). LIV is un needed to PIF. LIV was only a tool to get into the PGA
@@IamKnowbodie PIF does not give a shit about LIV anymore. Its why they stopped throwing money at PGA players. They used LIV to get a stake in the PGA. That was always their end goal. They never really wanted to overtake the PGA. If they did they would not have merged
I like shot gun starts because its totally fair. How many times in tournaments has it been windy and raining in the morning then in the afternoon the playing conditions are much easier to shoot a low score
So you are happy with 50 odd player fields
@@glenwood9190In PGA, you rarely see more than a dozen players anyhow. In LIV golf, they show almost everyone.
I did not like it in the beginning, but realized for myself it was more because I was so used to start at 1 or watch players starts at 1, then I remember s time I was young and the golf course changed clubhouse and so changed the numbering and what used to be 3 was now 1 and I accepted it, so it was just a familiarity I was changing.
"Progress is impossible without change, and those who can't change their minds can't change anything." - George Bernhard Shaw
Bryson had a tough year last year with losing his Father. A lot was said about him losing his form after taking the LIV money, but i'm sure they didn't know what his family was going through and it was bound to have an effect on his season. He's BAAAACK now, lighting it up with that KRANK driver and hitting bombs!! That 2 V 2 with Phil Mickelson was great and I'm looking forward to more of those videos. The LIV golf style of play definitely has it's place in today's golf world, it might bring more young people to the game and isn't that what the sport needs to grow? GO BRYSON, here's to your very bright future!! Cheers!
Also Bryson have just played 20 rounds in a row under par. That's incredible. I believe that's the longest active streak of rounds under par, on any golf League. That's basically 'almost' 7 events so far.
Watching the interview he had after his round where the person asked about his dad, I kinda lost it myself. You could tell how hard this last year has been for him and his family!
I think we all know it is impossible to play your best, if there is life shaking events in your scope.
Having and knowing to have all the shots to break par is not enough to do it. You need a calm space of mind to play your best or near your best.
After a rushed day at the office is not the evening usually to play your A game.
Where does the dots derive from on the name H.I.T?
@@IamKnowbodie LIV plays on MUCH easier conditions and much easier courses (the average score in the last one was freaking 64 and not a single player shot over par lol). Its a pretty manipulative stat you pulled out.
The team concept of LIV is very much part of the US pro tour scene. All of the universities have golf TEAMS that compete as teams and encourage the esprit de corps inherent in such a competition. Also an interesting aspect is that a golfer that is "out of it" for the individual can still help his team place and even win. Everyone contributes. Team golf, Ryder and President's cups are all of the same ilk, they bring highly individual competitors together. Win, win.
Great comment. 👍
I watched a Bryson video on his YT channel yesterday where he played a 2v2 with one of his teammates against Phil Mickelson and one of Phil's teammates. While I know we aren't big on the team thing, it feels like they have leaned into it quite a bit. You could see the comradere the were starting to build and how they were cheering each other on. In a sport that is so dominated by the 1v1 nature of it, it's kinda cool to see this style that's much more Rider cup-esque.
Great comment. The players are always commenting highly on the team environment on the LIV broadcasting. I come from a nation who just loves team sports, hence my country is firmly behind Team Stingers 🇿🇦
Got to say that watching Bryson make a 58 was incredible and something you won’t see again for a long time. The team aspect is actually really good, I know you both don’t get it, but then say you look forward to the Ryder cup which is a team event, so you have to look at the teams individually and see the competition as a team and not just as an individual performance. At least with LIV, everyone can watch it for free and not have to pay a monthly price to watch PGA tour comps from all the big sports broadcasters. LIV are clearly doing more to try and get more people into golf including giving people that chance to watch it.
For me if you do not like the team aspect is merely down to the fact that you have not chosen a team yet. These guys love the Ryder Cup because they have a team they support and are emotionally connected to that team. Not sure why they not Majesticks fans?
You wont see a 58 for a long time because you will almost never see such an easy course and conditions ever again. Over the whole 3 days not a single person shot a single round over par. The average score was 64 lol. 58 is damn impressive, but with context its not nearly as impressive. If the PGA played the same course you would see 58 and under many times. A course with an average scoring round of 64 is crazy
I was a LIV hater for the longest time but ever since PGA accepted their money i think of them as the same. This was the second LIV tournament I have watched and for me it's significantly better than the PGA format. LIV has a more party atmosphere, and they lean into it when each player has their walk on music. I was also against to the shotgun approach at first but what I do like about it is that it's not as much of a time commitment and I can watch all the players at the same time rather than having to watch the first tee off and it take forever to get the tournament started. not sure I can speak to the team aspect but to me it feels like they are two separate competitions, the individual vs the team. I think LIV also does a better job of showing the players talk through a put and the live putt tracer is pretty cool.
The team aspect gets interesting if you watch at least 4 or 5 events and your favourite players are doing well. Otherwise, it's a bit difficult to follow or get interested in. IOW, it's for longer term viewers.
Great comment mate. The team aspect is hard when you don't have a team yet to root for, but once you identify with a team it becomes like most team sport. I am a Stingers fan, and it's great seeing them compete as a unit, LIV also does team videos o their RUclips page where you get to know they guys of the course and see their uniqueness and comoradity.
I almost exclusively watch LIV now except for the Majors and some highlights if something big happens on the PGA. Just find it so much more easy to watch and enjoy. Always been a huge fan of Bryson and this weekend has shown that when he is on it, he is the man to beat on any tour. His driving was of course great, but his putting was just phenomenal as was his short game. It feels that LIV is truly gaining some traction and this weekend has only afded fuel to the fire.
As a later edit, the team aspect is definitely enjoyed by those who are much more in to LIV as a product. It's a well supported aspect. Also, we still all enjoy the game of golf, no one wants to see the sport and traditions decimated, just improved 👍
Agree. I still love the PGA, I just dislike the broadcasting, which is filled with ads, makes me feel like I am watching golf next to the mall and car dealerships. LIV with the uninterrupted golf makes me watch 15 hours of golf over the weekend when LIV is on. For the majors, I stomach all the ads.
100%
It's amazing how Bryson's 58 has been practically ignored by golf media. Can you imagine if one of the PGA stars did this. They would never stop talking about it, bring it up every year , and probably create a new holiday.
Or my favorite line ... it's exhibition golf so it doesn't matter. Yes Brandel Chamblee and Eamon Lynch... you guys shot 58 all the time.
It’s gotten so ridiculous nobody pays attention to the crooked golf media anymore😂
Did Jim Furyk get his own holiday..?
Golf in general has had a HUGE blow to its ratings since the announcement of the potential merger of golf leagues. Golf is a small niche sport, and the merger has lost the attention of the public. People here in America just have too many sports options and LIV isn’t really taking off here. They can’t even beat the WNBA in attendance or viewership! Hard to make something work without the American sports fans who watch the most and spend the most per capita on sports.
I have seen countless articles about it, so not sure why you think they are ignoring it. Even the PGA Tour an article out about it.
LIV golf didn’t need saving 😂😂😂. It’s a superior product to anything out there!
Agree with you a million %.
I’m glad I got to see Bryson get that record, was quite amazing watching him. I hope he can become a team captain because if he got to choose his other 3 teammates they might have been uncatchable in the team tournament 🤷♂️
Bryson is team captain of team Crushers, who came second this past event, and they won the first event of the season. And as a team they sitting 4th on the season long team Standings.
@mrt3206 This ^^
LIV does something that the PGA isn't oriented to do. The PGA desperately wants ONE HERO to worship, like Tiger Woods. There is no one like Tiger Woods. It's not Rory McIlroy. It's not John Rahm. The nature of golf is that there are many fantastic players and on any given Sunday, one of these guys could play fantastic golf or just excellent golf and win the tournament. There are ten or a dozen guys in LIV that could win a Major on any given Sunday. There isn't one guy that's going to win most majors. I like LIV because it doesn't hero worship and push any one guy. It's the competition that is the hero, not the made up hero.
Or Max Homa, they pump that guy up so much one will think he is the next Jesus.
@@IamKnowbodie You did not hear? Yes, he has been crowned by the PGA and given a royal robe and staff! The PGA will fight to change anything until its dying breath I guess! Will Tiger Woods proclaim over that?
@@robertbrown7470 .Tiger Woods was great. Just like Jack Nicklaus was. Time for new guys.
@@IamKnowbodie We already have all kinds of new guys. That's the point. I'm not going to list all dozen or 15 or 18 of them. There are a lot of great golfers out there. On any given Sunday. Like Bryson shooting a 58, or Taylor Gooch, or Bruce Keopka, Cam Smtih, etc. etc. But the PGA wants a hero and doesn't want to change.
@@robertbrown7470 I agree with you completely. The Landscape of golf and golf broadcasting is changing in fron of our eyes, and it seems only a few is recognizing it. Humans like me and you are not convincing others to like what we like, just merely pointing out that they needs to open their eyes, otherwise they will find themselves having the same dinner reservations as Blockbuster executives.
Being competitive is a blessing and a curse. I never had the funds to take my game somewhere but I still find ways even over little things to prove I’m the best even if it’s at work painting or sweeping the floor LoL
Yet for what reason I come home after 8hrs of work to take care of my kids put them to bed and then hit balls for 2 hrs
LIV over PGA everyday. I can watch every round without losing 4 days of my life.
Plus they have my two favourite golfers in Poulter and Bryson.
Listen, if you haven't watched LIV, you won't grasp its appeal. It's like me not understanding the NFL or MLB because I've not grown up with it, it does not mean it is not great. Once you immerse yourself in the team dynamics of LIV, witnessing underdogs defeat teams like the Aces, you'll start to appreciate the team aspect. You're primarily looking at individual players because that's familiar to you. LIV golf is thriving; it doesn't need any rescuing in my opinion. It's important to recognize that many experience LIV from diverse perspectives, not just your own.
Here is a great example of LIV going ahead, Rick Shiels have 230k subscribers and the LIV youtube page have 285k+ subscribers. If he talked nicely about a product almost 300k people on youtube alone liked, he will get a big chunk of their eyes. Just saying people are tired of hearing something they love getting dragged through the mud.
Tuesday has just kicked off!! Love it guys keep up the amazing work
Lastly, Bryson hitting thousands of golf balls reminds me of the greatest ball striker of all time, Moe Norman. In his late 60's Moe Norman could hit the ball straight over 300 yards. Someone asked him if he could hit it 400 yards, he responded, "I could, but I can't guarantee where it would go." If Bryson figures that out, which maybe he did, he will continue to be at the top.
From the channel of Graves Golf, run by a fellow who learned from Moe Norman:
ruclips.net/video/nPuw-jgqujo/видео.html
And the Conor Moore parody, at 01:47 :
ruclips.net/video/oeNy3AWAKQY/видео.html
I don't really follow LIV golf , but I am happy Bryson shot 58 . I actually watch his RUclips channel and prefer that content to be honest .
I appreciate you providing an honest feedback.
Not my show this or at all affiliated. Just merely a human being that's man enough to appreciate honest commentary.
I was just having this convo with a young guy, about 20yo, who's an assistant pro in a very exclusive and very private (100 members or so) golf course in my area. I was playing on my own that day and got paired up with him and another young guy at the turn who were competing in some type of loose tournament format and playing head to head. Nice kids, they could hit the ball a ton. I asked the assistant pro kid this same question that you were pondering in here and I think it's a great question and one that's always stupefied me: What keeps these guys SO motivated to grind all the time -- how do they stay focused or even interested in the game? He admitted that he's lost his way before and stopped liking it and that ebbs and flows. I think these guys or anyone on the grind with serious aspirations must have an inordinate amount of OCD or borderline madness in their mental makeup. Same for anyone who excels far and beyond the average person in any pursuit, especially these days when the population is larger than ever and we're more global than ever. Talent pool has become a talent ocean. So, anyone up near the top, in golf or anything, is insanely talented with an emphasis on "insane", IMHO. Awesome topic and should be discussed more often, candidly.
Nice one Guy, I was really enjoying hearing about Rick hanging out with the legend John Daly, until you cut it short to discuss some stat that you thought was more important. Good work again.
Bugger
Not that my opinion matters, but pride, competitiveness, and the Teammates pushing each other to do better are all part of the motivation. Money is a factor, but just the way some players are wired, just pushes them to be better then everyone else. Having teammates cheering you on when you are doing good motivates, and even teammates razzing you down pushes you!
Great comment. 👍
LIV is class! Got me back into golf, great coverage and easy to watch! Not like boring old PGA tour events. I know what im getting with LIV.
Think about all the people who dont watch pga tour, many none golf fans will tune into liv for thwt reqson.
Great comment. 👍
Love listening to the podcast Rick and Guy. All the best from Down Under
Hey Guys I have started watching Liv because of your show and following the Majesticks because of the players being on your show thanks 👍⛳️
That podcast with Poulter and the 10 shot match was a brilliant watch. 👏
The golf Channel had about 2 minutes of Bryson's score and 8 minutes of JT missing that chip. Which was more historic? A record tie round or someone ranked 71 missing a chip?
Shows they still are not on board with LIV.
The Golf Channel needs to change their name to the PGA Channel.
Guy if you don't know about much LIV don't talk about it. LIV is doing just fine!!
LIV golf is great… certainly looks like the future, not sure why a fan of golf would be ‘loyal’ to the PGA… 😂
Golf is golf, but watching 5 hours of golf uninterrupted vs. Watching golf with ads every 3 minutes, is so entertaining. Haven't watched a PGA event all year long. I just Google the results on Monday morning.
Ahhhhhhh Guy is so very very PGA maxi minded still. Open up your mind and set the past in the present. This win by Bryson with 58 was incredible and aside of that a win for the one length clubs users and you should know that. Loved it all the way ... and really embrase LIV as it changes everything up and is just a great entertainment. Just like long drive championships are also beneficial for golf too. Snap out of it, Talor Gooch was a multiple LIV winner and that he is not named is terrible. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
The sad thing is we all know they are going to come around, and then probably will never say sorry for their anti-LIV stance, how many of their listeners don't watch LIV because they drinking the same kool-aid as these guys???
@@IamKnowbodie The group of followers are plenty for sure. Time will proof itself and suddenly there is no discussion around it anymore. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Like politics, once the scale tips to 50% +1, there will be no coming back. Because most people will follow the majority. And it will be soon.
Scottsdale golf is where Bryson went if anyone is wondering 👀
Majestics felt like a team in the UK because they were the highlighted team when u went. I think hi-flyers, crushers, Majestics, torque. Are team oriented.
Spot on about Fried Eggs Golf. Such creativity!
Rick and Guy don't 'get' the team element of LIV cos they don't watch the broadcast for any amount of time. If you watch the whole thing you will 'get' the tension when the team comp is close and how it can change really quickly - regardless of whether you support a particular team or not. I really like LIV and in particular the commentary which is much more dynamic and fun and of course the fact that there isn't an ad break every five minutes is a huge plus. I find the PGA coverage tired and a bit boring if im honest.
The team concept is something new and the verdict is out. For that matter LIV is a new approach to golf so do you expect it to be polished from day one? Only unreasonable persons would expect this.
Great comment. 👍
And glad to see another human being using logic bringing up the uninterrupted experience vs. The ad driven experience. It's the uninterrupted golf experience that drives me to LIV. I watch all 15 hours of a LIV event, cannot remember the last time I watch the other tours, the golf is good on all tours, but the viewing experience is terrible.
Fantastic as always lads!!!
Love the discussion points and good on Bryson with his 58!!! Amazing!!!
I dont think guy and Rick realise how pga indoctrinated they are. For us who FULLY enjoy Liv and the Teams (in South Africa we are very patriotic about the Stingers!!)...
Its mind boggling.
Go STINGERS 🇿🇦
Love guy shouting out my old Titleist DCI irons lol 😂 made my day
You guys need intro and outro music for the podcast episodes. Would love to see Brysons driver get a review.
What keeps the fire in the belly of LIV golfers? The same as PGA players. Money, success, compete and most of all the LOVE of golf. Wake up and stop questioning LIV golf!
To this podcast: Do not talk about something you ignorant about.
Well said.
Amen brother
Lol, I was literally listening to the podcast today while running - the first time in over 6 months!! Unfortunately I didn’t see Rick…here in Michigan, USA. Gotta get in shape for referring soccer (football) this fall! Thanks for the fun podcast!
As I understand it Ping contacted Bryson and invited him down for a custom set of irons with all the tinkering he wanted to do. He came out with a one-length set made to his specs within a few days. Krank make the Formula Fire LD (long drive) version that Bryson uses and another USGA-conforming driver. They also have 2 high COR drivers for slower swing speeds that do not conform. As of this writing they are discounting the Fire drivers and fairways $150 which gets the drivers down to $399. They’ll also sell you just the head if you like for $429 regular price. Not sure if they’re discounting just the head.
I have a pre-owned Krank Element (later branded as Formula 5) that I picked up cheap. Of my 5 drivers (others are PXG, Honma, Yamaha, Miura) it’s the most forgiving (and the loudest) and everyone who’s tried it so far is surprised at the forgiveness.
Great comment mate. 👍
I think the other clubs being uses more, is merely down to marketing.
I know people will hate it, but I really like LIV, Its more of a League, I know whos playing each event and competing. I know its not traditional and people hate change, but i think fans of other sports will get LIV easier than the tour. you know who is playing when you watch NFL and who the competition is. the team element is great when you watch the event, it makes guys down on the leaderboard interesting during the broadcast. if you dont watch and just looking at results i can see how the team aspect isnt engaging. players though seem to like having a team around them
Yeah you keep posting propaganda
@@TopblokeGolf flattered that my opinion is propaganda to you. I got into golf because of youtube not the pga tour. so, sorry, different kind of fans, just more appealing to me.
Your missing the point that liv wasn't supposed to be trying to take over pga it was a product that should of sit along side the pga
Not true
In regards to player's continuing to drive...this is the same in almost every other sport too. Most players know they're not the best or their chances of winning the title are very low, but they just love competing. How many athletes play well past their prime? Almost all of them. The two reasons I've heard from athletes on why they stopped is either their body can't do it any more or their lost their drive to compete. It's almost never about not being the best.
I loved this episode. The humor seemed to be on another level that kept me laughing at your banter. So about playing old clubs I actually play a set of Wilson Specials blade irons form the late 1960's, a BeCu Ping Anser 2 putter, Cobra Aerojet LS driver, Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero 5 wood, Cobra F7 hybrid, and a random set of older Vokey Wedges that includes a 1998 Prototype 54 degree. I love playing brand new clubs, but I also love the feeling that old clubs can provide. Its fun rolling up to a local tournament with my bag and getting tons of comments and questions about the putter and irons. I am also starting to put together low key rounds where you have to play vintage clubs.
I love seeing you shout out Randy at Fried Eggs Golf. Have loved his content for years.
Keep winning the trophies Rick, wedge is special, played JCB twice what a truly amazing course.
Live podcast will be epic
LIV Golf is absolutely fine, they've just released their fantasy golf app which will help with the familiarisation of the team aspect. Guy will find that LIV Golf is like Formula 1, if you invest the time in it you'll appreciate and understand the team element a lot more than just expecting the media to spoon-feed the information to you (which is heavily leaning towards established tours, but this will change). 😉
It's becoming a laughter hearing LIV haters talking about LIV without actually spending time watching it or spending time in it, investing time in the team aspect.
@@whenisasnakeatail4933have you been to an event?
Guy so biased against LIV. as ridiculous as mainstream media trying to make a huge story of JT's missed chip over a 58. lol. that's how coverage losses credibilty.
LIV Golf is so much fun. Little things like music playing makes it so much better. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
@@metalheads-golffor me it's the uninterrupted aspect of the viewing experience, uninterrupted of ads, can watch 5 hours of golf without seeing a single ad. The music and team event aspect makes it super exciting for me as well.
We’ve always said, it’s the one shot that brings you back! You can shoot a 100 but you birdie 18, your coming back hungrier
the spark that keeps Adam Scott playing is the joy of golf.
Money is secondary. These people that said LIV players only went for money is not thinking clearly, imagine being offered $100million and having a conversation with your wife about taking it or not, she would say ... honey with that money our lives and children's lives will be secure and all the stress we have will be gone. They made family decisions. Not money decisions. I like winning, whether I play monopoly or sport or whatever I want to win. Look at Micheal Jordan, he has a winners mentality and does kot matter what he does he strives to win. The only people talking about money as a driving force are the ones who doesn't have money.
I was at LIV Bedminster NJ at Trump National.
It is a phenomenal event....
It has more of a festival or carnival feel than a PGA country club feel.
It was very kid friendly.. Had ball crawl, airbrush tattoos, mini golf, baseball pitch speed radar, golf ball speed radar, bean bags and big screen tv, live DJ music, lots of food trucks, and an all around party feel.
Definitely going to attract a younger audience.
People who don't care about golf, but like the social scene.
Looked like a lot of fraternity age boys and girls.
Tik Tok video age kids.
Spectacular golf.. Some of the absolute best players in the world...
Shotgun start is so much better than PGA's 7:15am start...
LIV has a lot of great things going for it..
Not much negative.
If you don't need to see douchebags like rory, then LIV is a great field.
Bryson, DJ, Phil, Patrick, Cam... Just a great lineup of great players.
I went to the PGA Championship and I went to LIV Bedminster....
PGA is the bigger more established tour, but LIV has a much better more laid back atmosphere.
I'll always love the PGA of course, just like any golf fan.
But I'm also a big fan of LIV,, They have a great product, and put on a top of the line event.
Two thumbs up for the LIV event.
Funny you were talking about old clubs. Just took my R7 Quad, Burner Bubble 2 and Ping 425 LST to the SIM today. Amazingly with my 100ish mph swing speed the difference was only 20ish yards. Older clubs are heavier and easier to swing faster with same effort but still shorter.
Listening to the podcast next to the wife, when the question around how often should you change your clubs comes up…. 🤔
I think the Fire That still lights the belly is the sheer love for the Game, they are all playing professional. You don‘t get to That Level if you have Never had the Love for the Game, or if you wouldn‘t enjoy practicing and hitting balls. And living out that Love for the Game on the highest Level of competitiveness is probably the reason why they are still doing it
I went this last week end to the LIV event in Bedminster in New Jersey. Very entertaining event for families , from golf viewpoint was a bit disappointed in general quality , what I found surprising was the impression I got from Majestics was that they didn't seem to be bothered in the event. Many other players interacted with the fans especially with the youngsters , but from what I saw they didn't even make eye contact with the fans. this really surprised me as in the past you would always see Lee interact with the young fans.
Nerves suck, Rick's just a normal human being who isn't able to block em out.
Love these two, great stuff and please come to Yorkshire.
Went walking listening to podcast. Thanks for content fellas!
I think the reason LIV doesn’t appeal to you two is because you’re golf vets who have seen golf one way for so many years. For someone like me who literally never have golf any attention until about 3 months ago LIV is much more appealing to me.
Yeah. These guys are just like the people who thought the internet was just the latest fad that would eventually fade away.
Great comments. 👍
Difference between 10 and 20 hcp is often good putting and skills around the greens.
Proper per centage shot selection off trouble and probably hardly ever missing on the short side, where you don’t have any green to work with.
Best thing LIV could do is move to Stableford scoring & make it an actual parallel league
Costco isn’t risky because you can return them anytime no questions asked
I'm still waiting for the kirkland irons they promised at the beginning of the year.
Without LIV, PGA is headed for a Disney. Tiger isn't going to save Golf, he's going to do what's best for himself, not Golf in general. And Jay, you've got to be kidding. It's not about money with the PGA, it's about control. Not good. And some of the people at the top of the Golf World see that and unfortunately many do not.
If Guy hasn't attended a LIV event then that would partly explain his lack of understanding of the teams concept in LIV. I acknowledge it may not come through on TV as well as in person.
We attended all 3 days of LIV Adelaide and the teams concept was strong. It was obvious to the course audience that the players were highly motivated by the teams event all the way through to the last putt on the last day. Whereas at a traditional golf event (4days of stroke, individual) the crowd interest on the 4th day is almost entirely on the last 2 groups and cursory interest in a few higher profile golfers. At the LIV events, there are players in groups across the entire course whose score on each hole is actively feeding into the Teams event scoring and the crowd are following the changes on big screens on every hole.
As for the Lee Westwood mention, he shot +20 at Bedminster so I hope he can find his groove soon as the golf world would be thrilled to see him really compete again.
Totally agree with Rick we are educated to look at the individual but all the younger ones luv the team part of LIV
Great podcast as always guys. You should start a Strava club for the running so we can see how we all get on doing the challenge this month!
Thanks for watching!!
I watch more LIV than regular golf, some of these guys should be on the US Ryder Cup team as well!
Bryson really got me interested in liv after that
LIV didn’t need saving😂 these guys just live in the golf influencer space and don’t talk to real people about their opinion of LIV
Agree. I am personally tired of hearing these guys talking from an ignorant stance, slamming down something I love.
@@IamKnowbodie I work in the golf industry. We have the LIV stuff playing every time and people will come and watch and we talk about it with them. 99% of people in the golf space enjoy LIV. Sure there’s some complaints and it’s not a perfect product but neither is the PGA Tour by any means. 8 hours+ of golf to watch is just insanity. Front/back 9 tee times on Thursday/Friday rounds should be a lot more common
Need to see a food challenge with Bob Does Sports!
The fire is the love of playing golf and wanting to perform. I couldn't give a rats arse about the PGA tour. LIV has 20 players I'd want to watch every time and I love that they are playing for the same trophy each time. Every event is worth watching and the team side is an added interest which the players embrace. LIV is at the beginning of it's story, but there is plenty of buzz and players are more open to share their story.
I believe LIV has about 12 major winners in each tournament playing. Their combined major victories is about 24?
This is it. I'll always watch LIV golf as it has the likes of DeChambeau, Johnson, Smith, Koepka etc... I'd rather watch those players over 99.9% of PGA Tour players.
I don't really think that "golf scores", will have any real influence over the investors decision making, as to the future of LIV, or team golf. Bryson's score is the only news that matters from this week, and it was a fantastic round...
that earned his team second place, but no one cared about that.
The Ryder Cup could be played twice a year, and people would not lose interest in it, because it has a purpose for having teams.
I really got into golf much more because of Kirkland clubs and their name brand club sets - I’m also cheap and I love when Costco puts their golf equipment on sale - Ie. both the putter and the wedges. I will buy their driver the minute they put in the store!
Rick's ASMR killed me 😂
The hate from Guy is hilarious. Get over it my man. LIV is not going anywhere. 😅
The team element of Liv is a little forced right now. But it is a base for something. Once things get more accepted and you may see things like team Taylormade and then you will see that brand loyalty from the fans. If they had like a team Canada with Canadian golfers I would be all over them as a Canadian.
I am from South Africa, and team Stingers is an all South African outfit, I can tell you the whole of South Africa is behind team Stingers.
If the PGA didn't play the morality card I believe their would have been a Canadian team, however they would not have been able to play at the Canadian Open. And I personally think they would want to play in their national open.
Rick just talking about golf and individual players and there golf game where as Guy is obsessed with LlV itself, he must like it a lot but pretends to hate it to try and fit in, it’s getting boring now it’s golf Guy who cares what tour there on 🤔
How about a golf video with Angel Cabrera? He’s out of jail now 😂
Love the content as usual you two. Rick, please, please don't just buy a guitar from Amazon. Golf and guitars are my two main obsessions - I consider myself an 18 handicapper at both! Just like you would recommend someone new to golf to take proper advice re club selection, you'd be much better advised to go to a decent guitar shop (PMT in Manchester would work for you) and try out a range of different guitars to find the one best suited to you. Choosing a guitar can be just as complicated (and fun) as selecting the right clubs to play with and the price/quality range is equally as wide. Also just like golf there are some great RUclips guitar tuition channels (eg Andy's Guitar) which would get you started really well. Looking forward to your first guitar video!!
32.5k in, got a 8k run this afternoon, really keeping me accountable and motivated. Great pod guys!
I play a Callaway 460 driver from 2008. Callaway Diablo Octane 3, and 5 woods from around that same time period. I play Callaway x-12 irons from 98, and Ping ISI wedges from 97. I shot -5(67) Tuesday, and +2(73) Saturday. Last fall, I shot my personal best -7(65). It isn’t the clubs, people…
What keeps the drive? The pursuit of excellence is hardwired into some people. They want to be the best soldier/sailor/spy/golfer they can be. The money is a great bonus, but the glory is the incentive. At least, that's what I think.
Great comment. 👍
Interesting discussion on the LIV teams and Rick @ Guy’s lack of interest, but started the Podcast talking about Rick coming 2nd in JCB Texas Scramble, which is a 4 person team event😊
They don't even understand how hypocritical they are
Granted Bryson had a great round to shoot 58 and there seems to be a lot of buzz about it , strange thou Stuart Appleby shot a 59 at the Greenbrier in 2010 hitting it much shorter with a Driver that has a lot less tech , to me Appleby's 59 might be even more impressive having to hit much longer irons in than Bryson's.I don't think a few great rounds on a course that the pros eat up make him a great Ryder cup pick thou but if he is picked its always fun watching him Krank It !!
Guy is literally the epitome of a 80 year old man gatekeeping the sport.
I now honestly think he his only talking sh*t about LIV to get more activation in the comment section.
Just a thought on the 58 as much as it’s brilliant. Was the course setup easy ie wide fairways short rough etc?
Yes, and they started from the ladies tees. Remember it's exhibition golf. Also don't forget to take a sip of your PGA inspired kool-aid.
The PGA had many events on this same course. I think the first year the PGA was there someone shot a 59 so it is a course you can go low on. Yes, it is a par 70 but it is still 7200 yards. They filmed a 2V2 with Bryson and Anairban Lahiri vs Phil and Cameron Tringale and the amount of thought they were putting into their approach shots to get it to the right portion of the greens showed it wasn't just some course you could just pop it to the middle of the green and guarantee par every time. Was a very fun watch, especially listening to the thought process on those shots.
Programed for individuals and can't get behind teams... yet a huge fan of the Ryder Cup, which is a competition between teams. Which one is it?
You guys are wrong about the team element of LIV. It's awesome and makes for a more compelling product. Watch how players who aren't contending for the individual title still care so much about making their putts and playing well on Sunday for their team.
Rick, Have you seen all the terminator movies? We dont need machines and AI in everything, could you imagine your Driver literally trying to kill you😂
A lot of talk about Bryson's clubs but not much about his single plane swing (SPS). Would love to hear more about this topic. I'm a huge SPS fan and have been for thirty years.
Golf is 1 of very few sports that other athletes play on their time off. People love the game of golf regardless of how much money someone has. Rich executives leave the office to play golf. I think when people have the golf bug they just play. Why would Rory stop playing PGA when we all know every single one of the players will be playing golf until their bodies won't let them. LIV, PGA or Amateur nobody is quiting this wonderful game.
I've tried. On multiple occasions I've tried. I can't watch LIV. The F1 style leader graphic drives me crazy. The quality of the golf is great but everything surrounding it is marginal, at best. I find myself walking away from the TV and doing other things around the house. I can't put my finger on it but I just can't watch the broadcast.
I can respect this comment. You watched and decided for yourself. Those that dislike it and haven't watched it, are the ones bothering me, as they can't think for themselves.
@@IamKnowbodie It must have something to do with the shot gun start. Trying to compress a shot gun format into traditional type coverage....Something is missing and I can't put my finger on it. They made changes in format,(Team Golf, Shot gun starts) then tried to cram it into traditional coverage. If you're going to reinvent the wheel.....?
@@SwimCoach8 I get that. I personally think you just like what you used to. No disagreement in that. You know what you like and you know what you don't like. Respect to you.
For me personally it's the coverage that makes me love LIV, it's uninterrupted golf from start to finish without a single ad break. I personally am a minalist and lean more towards the Cynic philosophy, so I do not like shopping or anything being sold to me constantly, and I feel the PGA and DP World Tour coverage is filled with ads, makes me feel like I am watching golf in a mall. The golf itself on all tours is fantastic, I just get irritated with the ads, so I can't stand to watch it.
The shotgun start is something to get used to, and when I did get used to it, I like that all the players starting the same time and finishing the same time, they all still play the same course for me in the same weather conditions, and all players still play 18 holes, just in different orders.
@@IamKnowbodie As far as the ad content....The Saudis don't invest for fun. They are in it to make money. I question how long the no ad format can continue. Remember, this format is in its infancy. At some point the bill will come due!
@@SwimCoach8 one reasonable comment in a SEA of ignorance.
This peeps thinking the Saudis invested several billion dollars without second thoughts about getting it back are DELUSIONAL, they are gathering sympathy and building an audience and then they'll pounce at your wallet way harder than the pga tour ever did, a dealer giving you free drugs isn't your friend he knows you'll eventually pay it back with interest .
An investment Arab group will just keep putting FOUR MILLION $ tournaments for free after spending a billion dollars in player contracts guys, they're THAT nice 😂😂
Would love to get an episode discussing what you should prioritise spending on as a new beginner with different budgets. I.e. with a £1000 or £2000 etc. How much you would spend on clubs, rounds, lessons, driving range etc.
The best motivational thought is ten 2 letter words "if it is to be, it is up to me".
Q? What does it take for golf lovers to say LIV are great players and the golf is out of this world. Do they have to win a major? Do they have to be inducted into the hall of fame? do they have to compete against some of the best golfers in the world every time they play? do they have to hit a 58? The answer of course to all of those questions is LIV has been doing all of this from day one and yet you two guys just can't seem to get your head around the LIV concept. Is it golf or isn't it golf? Is it competitive or isn't it competitive? Seems pretty clear to me and many others.
The play was great by Bryson, but I think it's a testament to the way LIV has been setting up their golf courses too. The guys utterly destroyed the Greenbrier, as it was just a birdie fest of them throwing darts, at pin after pin. Fantastic play indeed! But Bryson almost had 2 rounds in the 50's with a 61 in his 2nd round also. They need to set the courses up a bit tougher, otherwise this will happen again sooner than we think.
I found myself watching the end of brysons 58 and zero of the pga