Tuned Ford Mustang GT vs Tuned Civic Type R vs Tuned Stinger GT, someone wins. Drag and Roll Race
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- Tuned Ford Mustang GT vs Tuned Civic Type R vs Tuned Stinger GT, someone wins. Drag and Roll Race
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Mustang driver here. My car is a gen 2 coyote on a Lund racing 93 tune with a JLT intake for those wondering. I am the same driver from the race against the R8 and F430 for comparison. Thanks Sam for the opportunity and setting all this up!
You DROVE that mustang man good shit!
@Griffin Dear good races dude. I was the civic driver 👌
What clutch do you have and how do you like, no more lock outs?
@@jdomingues366 same to you bro. Was sick being door to door for most of the races
@@tylerdbrown20 centerforce dual friction clutch. I love this clutch. I have never had a lockout since I got it 12k km ago. A little heavier and noisier than stock but not by much
This was, without a doubt, the most "real world" race and match up you’ve ever had Sam💯
You are right!
I'll add that it reminded me of when myself and 2 buddy's were in Mexico last year and the 3 of us raced (tuned FiST, tuned Fusion Sport and my EN), lots of fun🏁😇❗️
No it wasn’t this was garbage Lmfao. Both cars had way better tunes. That stinger is slow af. Garage! And the heaviest.
@@kiastingergt2231 🙄 why u mad? On the street, that's most likely the type of vehicles you will see lining up on an average day. Well I just noticed stinger was in your name so that explains it all.
@KiaStingerGT but the thing is this, when your out in the real world it's like that. I'm 53 and been into cars my whole life and I've always said "there's 10 cars you can beat and there's 10 cars that can beat YOU". On this day the Stinger won some, lost some, no big deal👈
Petition to keep this form of videos Sam. Sooooooooooo much better man. Less talking, more straight into racing, less different angle cameras that make viewers start having headaches of the same race... this here just works.
Videos under 8min you loose 50% of the revenue and youtube doesn’t promote them
@@SamCarLegion good on you for being honest. People like to ignore that this is your JOB and so you have to make some sacrifices to actually make $$.
Thank you. It is my full time job, and yes I love doing this, but who will pay my time and the bills? We all want to make money at the end of the day.
@@SamCarLegion If you want to make the videos longer and easier maybe interview the drivers for exact and full mods.
@@samsungshield1297 I’ve given this channel shit in the past before, but Sam has a good thing going on a great platform.
I think if he interviewed the drivers before and they have a full (and exact) mod list, that would add some time to the video and would be worthwhile content. The difference between some tunes can be up to 100hp on some cars and we’d never know.
Mentioning things like the tuner, actual hp and torque at the wheels, what tires they’re running, dragy/vbox/racebox numbers are a great way to show that this channel is downright serious.
I’ve been here since the channel barely had any subs and I’d love to see it blossom into a true car enthusiasts channel, not just for new guys
Stinger owner here, but at the end of the day, all 3 cars are amazing. Just have to accept each strength and weakness, they enjoy what you have as always. All 3 are very modifiable and fun to drive indeed!
It seems for the roll though bro like your reaction time was horrible or like you weren’t even trying. I own a tuned 2020 RWD Stinger GT and I’ve done way better
thats is a proper car guy response - respect
Na at the end of the day the only amazing car is the type r….2 liter 4 cylinder vs those boats that would wrap around a pole on the first turn they have to take…Type R shots on both cars doesn’t matter if it’s from a roll or if it’s on a track. How does it feel to get shat on by a 2 liter😂😭💀
AWD Stinger GT owner here. Mine has a JB4 running Map 3 with E30, Eibach lowering springs, front and rear sway bars, borla exhaust and AEM intakes. The car is a beast! Not surprised at the result here.
The best part about being a Stinger owner is seeing the looks on peoples faces when they realize a Kia emblem was on the beast that just passed them by. Most underrated car out right now. Those that know, know.
Nice 👍 definitely a sleeper.
I thought the Stinger would dominate this competition but hell it was right there every race regardless.
It seems the Type-R driver made head start and you made late start in every roll races so the difference was *gigantic*. If all cars started at the same time the difference in gapping would be much smaller.
@@BamaTidefan1967 No, because from a dig, the Stinger benefits from AWD, launch control, and auto transmission. It went just as expected.
Stinger owner here, oh I know!
Such an awesome race. Really cool to see how tuned versions match up against each other. Always good content 👍🏻
Unless the Type R is Running Ethanol or an upgraded Fuel system there's no possible way for it to make 480bhp, if you account for drivetrain loss that's about 408whp. Without ethanol, or methanol, or a new fuel system the Type R maxes out at about 380whp
Glad to see you in the comments but where’s the R content! 😂
Correct I think this Type R meant 3 instead of a 4.
That Civic definitely isn’t making 480 lmao. That should have been an easy win with the HP & weight advantage.
It always surprises me when people say stuff like ‘I can’t believe the Civic kept up!’. People need to realise that the FK8/Type R is no joke. It’s got crazy top end power and it’s FWD for a reason. It’s designed to be a track car, FWD reduces the weight. If Honda wanted to make a car designed for digs and drags and traffic light boy racer style races then Honda would be producing AWD Type-R’s. I drive an FK8 and I love it. A bullet proof engine, slick gearbox, unreal handling. What’s not to love?
What’s not to love ? That it’s not rwd and can’t slide around corners or roundabouts in the rain 🥲
@robertespinoza2740 it's very easy to left foot brake and slide around. Or setup to lift off oversteer. Gets kinda scary at high speeds though.
@robertespinoza2740 very easy to left foot brake and drift. Also easy to setup to oversteer.
@@duanebailey6253 no but you can’t slide around when ever you want you have to bein flying with speed to slide wanna drift around the rain and onto the on-ramps when it’s raining also I just personally prefer the way we will drive cars handle. I have a supercharged 8th gen with the stock k20z3 bin supercharged for a wile and I can definitely left foot brake and get it out but not as long as I would like and not as practical
Hands down one of my favorites! Awesome seeing that lil 4 banger doing work 😆
I wish dyno operators across the world just used WHP figures. If the type R was genuinely making 480bhp or whatever number was given to the customer, this car would be smoking both the mustang and stinger because of how light it is.
A true 480whp fk8s will keep up with a hellcat on the roll tbh. Anything under 100kph it’ll just spins
Thinking it's 380 whp, so probably a typo...the mods are good for 380
100%
To be fair the stinger had no mods at all just a tune stingers love bolt ons extremely easy to make 500whp on them
Wow! That Stinger is a beast!! What a car for the price!! Good one Sam 🤙
The Stinger was the only AWD car here so from a dig, it had a huge traction advantage. The rolls races proved differently.
@@lawrenceredden9049 it's an automatic aswell right?
@@lawrenceredden9049 The sheer weight of it and the lowest power output of the three were still surprising. A roll just predicably showed the highest weight, and the lowest output wasn't going to produce good results. Now bring a Stinger with ~500bhp and 420 Torque and it might do better on a roll and have more equal power to weight.
Really? It LOST every roll race haha. It did do well from a dig so just keeping it real....
@Race Dawg a real race is from the dig.
Stinger driver here. I had a conservative ecu tune at the time with intakes,intercooler, cat back exhaust. I had bad spark plugs and was misfiring. Now I currently have same mods as before but got a updated ecu tune with jb4 custom map 6 along with a tcu tune. Thank you to @samcarlegion for the opportunity
Nice one mate. I have a G80 Sport with the 3.3T
That thing is a rocket. Nice wheels man 👍
Can’t wait to run it back!
Are you running a Ethanol blend on MAP 6? I run E30 on MAP 5 with solid results.
@@RVRoy1000 this race I was only on 94 octane was on a conservative ecu tune and used map 6 to add 2lbs of boost. Was on old densos so i kept misfiring. But yeah I do e30 blends at times. Hoping to do e30 with wmi in the summer
Already know 10 speed gonna win in a dig and roll lol
Lost in roll
@@Ace20001216 the mustang raced here was a 17' manual, his saying that if it was a 18' 10 speed it would of won every race
@MartN187 facts. The 10 speed puts lengths on the 6mt sadly
@@Ace20001216 it’s a manual G.
Yeah the a10 mustang is sooo good.
Proud stinger owner here! Not bad for a 4100 pound car 💪
My only dislike about the stinger is kia should have made them with a digital gauge cluster
@@Kevin-xv2nh I agree with you on that
Mustang if it's a 10 speed and decent launch.
I would love to see a tuned Taurus SHO or Flex Ecoboost in a drag race.
Yes! Or tuned fusion sport
Both are great but they choiced a mustang lol
Upgraded turbo on the civic ? Cause there is noway that thing is 480 bhp .
The People's Champ, The Pocket Rocket, and The Underdog. What a lineup ❤
Very impressed with the Type R. I assumed it would just end up being the camera car but it was right there in every race.
Wonder what the result would be if that was a 10 speed Mustang with the same tune in drag strip mode they hook up really well.
No way it's 480bhp though. Less weight & drivetrain loss it should have won the rolls easily in that case
Except he cant shift to save his life.
@@frogsta360 bolt ons and a tune you arent even touching 400 in a type r without running ethanol. Im assuming it has 380 and it's just a typo
@@colinfitzpatrick9931 My thoughts exactly. If it truly had that much HP the mustang would’ve been toast.
Never underestimate the Civic lol
Finally seeing a tuned stinger
Only fast 5.0 are 10spd, surprised that type R hanged with the tuned 5.0
Sadly, even 10r80 ecoboost will run neck and neck with a 17' GT manual
I mean it took it to be fbo. And saying only fast 5.0 is idiotic. There are plenty of fast 5.0s. Kids like you need to stop watching youtube and looking up 0-60 times and visit a track. Lmfao and this coming from a guy with a charger in his pic.
Not mine
That type r supposedly makes 480hp😂😂😂 it got smoked by a car with 20 less hp and 600 more lbs? This whole video is a joke
And tell that to my pp1 6 speed. In a roll the worst a 10 speed has ever gotten me was by a hood.
The Stinger is accelerating like its stock. If it was tuned, it would have flown away from the other two cars. Bring the stock white one for a re-race and you will see it's the same outcome.
10 speed auto in the stang is what you want for drag racing. Would have been well ahead of the others.
This^
Absolutely
Mustang will take this one if it’s a 10 speed.
@Catholic Firefighter bullshit put 300s on the back n lower control arms relocation brackets. Do you have a mustang?
That Civic has some serious top end power!
Nah that when weight comes into play the most
Was thinking that too. The stock turbo must be pretty big on those. Youd think a 2.0s top end would be kinda shitty
it revs to 7000 where all the power is up high
@@invalidusername_5101that's part of it
Best one yet SamBo , no yada yada just action ! Oh , and cut the blasphemy so I can watch all of your great videos .
I like how everyone got a win 😊
No way civic is making those numbers. It would have gapped the mustang and stinger.
If Stinger is rear well drive definitely will win the rolling
It was a very enjoyable race; keep up Sam ❤️💜: Thanks 🫡
Depends on which tune the stinger has, going with the stinger, yet the tuned stang on the rolls should be interesting
JB4
@@whosdondada he's exclusive I think
Lap 3 is the best imo
@@energybobnet yup forsure
All great cars, no losers here. 💪
Now this was a real race! Super interesting. Very well done!!!
The only car least strained is Mustang GT ... and current stock Mustang would wipe the floor with these 2 .
If all stock, Stinger wins all the digs and comes in second to the Mustang in all the rolls. That being said u give the Stinger 480 HP and it spanks them both on all races.
Stinger always bring surprises.
Finally a drag race wth not much talking.. stingers are hella underrated
The Stinger isn't underrated. The issue is no one buys them. My guess it's the price for a small feeling hatchback. My reference is regarding the rear seating. Solid performance for the GT2 since the GT3 was dropped for 2023. But at $55,000. Not the best 4 door family sedan considering sedans have become less and less popular with sedan sells going to sporty SUVs available for less money. Now with EV's added to the Kia mix. The Stingers days are numbered.
stinger 3.3T engine is a gem, whoever designed it, wow, durable, powerful....
Type r is a beast on a roll race. Longer road and that thing is gone 🤯
Solid race could only imagine a 10 speed with headers and e85 lol
Pffff even better. Humans will never be faster than a computer.
Your going to give up your soul for a couple tenths of a sec you might as well buy a tesla does everything for you and fast in straight line lol
@@2023_Max You said it but automatics will never be near as fun a a manual.
@@jesusquintero664 hey can’t argue on that one hehe
Somebody lied to the Honda owner about that horsepower.
Yesss my boi with the mustang is back in it!!! Let's goooo
Sam. KTuner is available for TLX Type S. Let’s see your red Type S guy run it…. Maybe not a loss??
Wakes the car up for sure
Awesome Sam, has to be the most mixed results yet, hell yeah
The mustang gt makes those figures stock in NA a modified gt usually makes around 500hp
Now we need a bolt on tune Elantra N DCT vs some cars on this channel, the car is amazing
The Mustangs are way faster with the 10 speed transmissions.
Best video I've seen on this channel
That stinger is no joke.
If its a automatic mustang gt with 10 speed ya the mustang will beat the stinger.
@@Endtimes24 RUclips videos say nope, only roll race but dig never ever
Mustang top end.
Type R beat it lol
@@TheFK8Life only when it jumped the Honda lagged behind most of the races 😂
Never did I ever think a Civic would keep up with and beat a mustang!!!!!!!! Nice video!!
Why not? The Type R has crazy top end power
Honda always puting the shame on all other brands with bigger displacement
What a great video. No fluff, just results.
The only thing I got from this video was to buy an automatic if you plan to drag race. Manual cars waste too much time between shifts in a test of raw acceleration.
The Stinger had a tune only, the Civic and Mustang had more modifications done. Give the Stinger a Tune, intercooler,exhaust and the intakes then re-run the races. Fair is fair.
Can you do an Elantra N dct vs manual? As it is probably the only attainable new enthusiast car available with both, it would be quite an interesting comparison.
The DCT would gap the manual , it's a pretty noticeable difference
Will be pretty big difference. The DCT will pull on the manual quite significantly even in roll race all the way to 1 mile race.
The manual is better for regular driving, not for all out drag racing.
@@nighthawk0077 Regular driving ? Nope, manuals are a pain the ass. For spirited driving and fun yes manuals are better,
@@vroomgc nope, I get too bored if I'm driving auto. I need to be doing something when I drive.
I'm keen to see more races with a RWD Stinger rather than just an AWD
They only have the AWD Stinger in Canada. As a RWD Stinger owner I’d like to see that as well!
@@ldubbzini I'm on my second Stinger (both RWD). There just isn't enough content out there!
Yeah this format is much better. Just do what auto glory does and you can't lose.
I have an fk8. That tuned civic is no way 480whp. Intercooler, DP, Exhaust, Intake and a tune (as described) is basically a “FBO with custom tune”. Which means it will be no more than 385-390whp on a stock turbo and stock fuel system..
If it was a true 480whp fk8, it will eat and gapped those two cars like nothing especially on that roll races.
How does the lightest car have the most power and lose😂 they must be mustang or stinger fans😂 or the civic was shifting at 4500
480 bhp is not the same as 480whp. That civic makes 415 to the wheels
Are all the power figures dyno tested on the same dyno?
Civic seems nowhere close to it's claimed output. Was expecting it to gap the other 2, atleast in the roll races.
As soon as I saw the mustang had the 6MT I knew it wouldn’t be a good race
Wow! The Stinger was the fastest and least modified. I expected it to be the slowest.
Automatic transmission paired with awd is a strong combo in a drag against rwd manuals with similar power.
Stinger got walked from a roll which means it's not even close to being the fastest lol😂
Stinger is slow …what u talking about….it has AWD and is an auto against manuals and still struggled to pull away..PATHETIC!!
@@djzulumask2138 yes it was 1000 pounds heavier than the R and 70 HP Less and came in a fraction of a second behind it, yup that’s PATHETIC alright. Get a clue dude.
Considering the heaviest among the three with less horsepower and torque, stinger did pretty well
AWD and auto gives it alot of advantages.
That civic type r does not have 480 hp with simple bolt ons and regular gas, and it shows in the races.
Awd is the only reason it won from the line, even a 5mph roll it would lose.
@@KO-iw3vu thank you
And there's tunes up to like 525hp...thats just 410
Would love to see a LAP3 2.5 tuned Stinger on E50 run..
I have a G70 w/jb4 so this will be interesting for me.
You car is lighter too
@@whosdondada I'm in Hawaii too so no need for AWD so thats even a alot of kilos less weight.
Initially thought the stinger was not going to be in this race, but damn!
Same. Now I want to tune my g70 😅
Stinger all the way
Mustang all the way
Should have done a gen 3 coyote on e85
Drivers race. Cars are pretty evenly matched. Well done.
Roll race #1 , the mustang jumped before the cone. 3:05
When are we going to get a real tuned Lap3 stinger/g70 on here……..I mean jb4 is decent but lap3 is a whole other league.
Do we know it's a JB4. And if it is a JB4 they need to state what Map and what fuel. There's a huge difference between Map2 and Map4 for instance,. And of course like you mentioned a difference between JB4 and Lap3 tuned
@@mtDNA_Refresh the driver said he had conservative ecu tune and jb4 on map4 I believe. He also said he had bad sparks which was misfiring, so that explains why he didn’t get to do well in roll
@@abulhashem-jc9mv I had it on mute and was just reading the text and only says custom tune. But I also read in the comments the guy said he was using Map2. 🤷
@@mtDNA_Refresh yea you could be right! I will check again!
There should be a law against allowing MT to drag race.
I see that Sam has lost weight, 🤔 shifted gears properly, and stop ✋️ talking. Hmmm somethings strage about him.
The GT driver had me laughing 😂
How much of a head start did the civic want on roll race 2... 🤣🤣🤣
@@jdomingues366 roll race not dig. Who the 🤡 now! You are...🤣🤣
Results all over the place for repeated races of the same kind = driver inconsistency.
Probably why the launch was not shown on the first three races (presuming they were standing-start as the other races were labeled as roll) and the lack of commentary
that civic doesn't have 480bhp )))
Look at the damn wheel on the mustang, litterally fighting trying to keep it straight, no wonder they're crowd killers xD
Stinger GT is just a beast 😂
Awd and auto?
My friends Chrysler 300 AWD V8 diablo tuned is crazyyyy quick off the line I want to see that compared to the Kia stinger GT2 AWD
I love my Type R for the Handling and reliability
Damn that KIA Stinger let them get the sting for sure! 😂 Didn’t expect that outcome at all. I thought the Civic was going to win given the power to weight ratio of the 3.
That cannot be the correct figure. Maybe 380. A Type R with 480 to the wheels (or even the crank) would've walked that Mustang in the roll race.
@@KamikazeSOF2 he was heatsoaked
@@burgerbandit3646 I don't think that's a sufficient explanation, at least not without further evidence.
I saw their reply saying as much, but that car isn't making that much power except on a Dyno, which is meaningless. You put that against other cars of similar power to weight ratios, and it's getting absolutely gapped.
That's not say it isn't impressive, but if your car can only work once in the most ideal of conditions, then it's disingenuous to advertise it at that power level.
A stock Prius can make 500whp once.
@KamikazeSOF2 heatsoaking is a real thing and is a reasonable explanation for me. Yes, cars should be able to perform their duties in repetition but these are also daily vehicles and not race cars. Even actual drag cars become heatsoaked after multiple back 2 back passes with no time to cool off.
@@burgerbandit3646 I understand that, but even the first race didn't show that the Type R is putting out those sort of numbers.
Again, not trying to shit on the guy, but I need more than a claimed Dyno run to believe that thing is putting down anywhere close to 435 wheel.
Any Type R making 400+ wheel would absolutely shit on a bolt on/tune 6 speed manual Gen 2 Coyote. You're not getting much from the tune on the Coyote.
The hp/weight says the Honda should have kicked butt. Was the hp exaggerated?
380 for usure, not many are above 400 wheel and safe so doubt it was 400 wheel even
850rwhp 2017 ZL1 owner here. We can only muster 170mph in the 1/2 mile in our slow car so watching these was awesome!😁
Put a real driver on the Civic and see what happens. Dude had about 3 secs in between shifts. Any old Honda head is screaming at their phones..
Can't wait to see when y'all bring the 2024 mustang onto the channel!
I kinda want to get a Stinger just to tune, put the kids car seat in the back, and hurt all the Mustang drivers feelings around here. lol.
3 Cars that couldnt be more different. 4, 6, 8 Zylinders and Fwd Awd and Rwd 🤣
Lol i love and appreciate this channel but can we just change the name to Stinger Takes on All Comers. They seem to love including the stinger in all their videos lol
How did they determine the hp of these tunes? It doesn’t look like the civic is 480 hp
More like 380whp
Please do a vid on A35 or CLA35 vs the Giulia 2.0t if you can get the new Golf R in there would be money
That Typer R is losing but, that's the car I'd take. Looking forward to the race!
The guy in the Honda is slow with gearshift from what I can see
@Catholic Firefighter watch the video and see the intervals between gear changes
Can we get a race with the luxury limousines? Something a little different!
Mercedes 560/580
BMW 750i
Audi A8L 4.0t
We don’t need the super fast ones lol
Why not a gen 3 A10 performance pack with E85 tune
cause then it wouldn't be a race
Where is that intro sound track? That was jammin’!
Buddy is shifting way to early in the stang
I heard Manual Mustangs until 2011- 2018 have serious yes Manual transmission problems, automatic were more reliable but still double check not sure
the mustang needs a good driver
Great video Sam 👏👏👏
The type r is definitely making closer to 350-380 hp
Mustang has more horsepower and a 10 speed mustang can defeat the type r
Stinger dangerous from a dig.