My wife (born in PJ) and I would like to retire to Malaysia. We are in San Francisco. We figure our kids have more opportunities here in the States. Once they are grown and move out we can make the jump.
I am a Singaporean and have lived in the UK for a very long time but have never felt at home here. I miss the food, the culture, the weather, the lifestyle. Now that my daughter is married and have a life and family of her own, I have decided it's time to pack up my bags and head home. Hujan emas di-negeri orang, hujan batu di-negeri sendiri, lebih baik negeri sendiri: Even though it may be raining gold in another country and raining stones in my own country, I consider my country is still the best! Can't wait to be surrounded by family and friends and to be able to have vacations in neighbouring countries, especially Malaysia 😍
There's nothing quite like home, huh? I might be moving to Northern Ireland in a few years and I think I'll be missing home a lot too. (I'm also Malaysian)
@@nurjalilah4806 Awak nak pindah ka-NI sebab mengikut suami ke (like me). Well, at least you won't suffer from culture shock compared to for example if your're moving to non-english speaking countries like Spain, France or Italy! Be prepared for the weather. In my case as I get older, I started to miss the malay lifestyle more and more, being surrounded by family and friends.
@@tenga3tango Hahaha, True. When I first moved there many2 years ago their basic food was meat and 3 vegs, very bland and the vegs were boiled to death! They also used to make fun of the french for eating plenty of garlic 🤣
My wife is Malaysian, I'm American. We wanted to move back to Malaysia and were making plans to leave, then the pandemic hit and shut everything down. Now we are creating a life for ourselves here in US with a 16 month old daughter. I always feel that we will settle in Malaysia at some point. Thanks for sharing your videos, always enjoy as another Malaysian-American couple.
We are a Malaysian Eurasian/Indian Indian couple. After living in Malaysia for 20 years (We were married in Dec 1978 but she was deported back to India in 1979 and was allowed to return in 1982) we finally gave up and migrated to USA in 2002. Why? My wife was on a dependent pass while I worked in Sabah and on a year to year spouse visa while I worked in Peninsula Malaysia. We have 2 sons (Malaysian citizens) but my wife was denied a Permanent residence status (red I/C). In USA, she became a citizen in 5 years!! We will never go back. My sons are now married and settled in USA and each family has a combined income of over $250,000 and my boys do not have university degrees.
It is a very difficult decision. We came back to Malaysia after living in the UK for nearly 8 years. Like you mentioned there are some pro and cons but overall we think that we made the right decision.
I’m not a malaysian but from your neighbouring country. I’m going to get married to an australian and before knowing your channel, i was very unsure of whether i should do it as i was never away from my family for more than 2 weeks. You are an inspiration to me to make it happen. Make it look so easy but just like you, food will be a major issue for me. I will learn to pick up cookinh just like you did. Thank you kumar and rachel, you are so supportive of kumar i hope my future wife can be like you to support me living in foreign land. God bless your whole fam.
Logesh ternyata anak jati Malaysia. I applaud your decision and I am quite confident you have thought this through and have a fallback plan if things do not pan out. I too spent many years abroad and there really is no substitute for your own homeland. Generally inter-ethnic, intercultural and inter-religious relations are harmonious on a people-to-people level. It is our political system and a self-interest driven political class (across all divides) living in its own bubble, divorced from the reality of most ordinary Malaysians that is the source of many of our problems. No place is perfect, similar problems exist in the West - culture wars and hyper-capitalism have disadvantaged the most socially and economically vulnerable segments of their populations. With that said, I have a sense that you as someone who has been educated and exposed to a global worldview, I am certain you will contribute greatly to our beloved country. I welcome you back and hope we can all build a better future for all.
I always look forward to getting back home and contribute something back to my country... I tried, but,...... looking at what Malaysia is becoming, I am very sad... Can't say more....
I;m in USA for 20yrs great job, great friends , born in Malaysia i am going back in soon to my motherland. No matter what i feel Malaysia is still the best place.. Family and Home.
Trust me..when u grow older, u have that feeling where you only want to stay in your own country and go back to places that bring back your childhood memories.
I would certainly say that life is much better in Malaysia than in many countries. I would advise you to work and save as much as possible now when you are in the US, and once you are financially sound, then plan to move back to Malaysia.
@@muhdmat8454 nah. malaysia has better tertiary education system than singapore despite singapore having better ranking. Out of 10 top 10 university in asean, 5 is in malaysia. just ask how many singaporean got tertiary education in university. we have many more universities with good rankings, and are valid to work anywhere in the world.
@@ruhasli9255 hmmm this is new , well I have to try sinkie life in future. Ofcourse owning a car and house is very expensive and hard to own a house. But it's a safe country. I don't understand what you mean toxic environment. Can you explain further? I have thoughts of having a career in sinkie
Bro, Logesh, I agree with you 100% that when we're abroad, we feel more Malaysian. That happened to me when I was studying abroad for 4 years. Don't get me wrong, I was also happy to be abroad, but it was different when we are not a citizen of that country. We will always be made to feel like a foreigner. On discrimination, well yes, every country has its own set of problems and there's no perfect multiculturalism anywhere. We all have to learn to live with one another as much as we can harmoniously. Having said this, I am intrigued that you mentioned about your children, hopefully, to be able to grow up in environment that less strained by racism. We all hope for that too and I can see some positive signs. The younger generations are less fixated with racial and cultural differences, and that's a good thing.
Totally agree with your statement, sir. I was living abroad (but only for ten years in States), I experienced the 'unwritten rules' and 'unspoken feeling' :) . We learn to appreciate our surrounding in a positive way. Anyway, Malaysia is always tanah tumpah darah ku, dia, mereka dan kita semua.
Logesh reminded me of Malay idioms/peribahasa. "Hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri, lebih baik di negeri sendiri." In English it is "raining gold in other country, raining rock in my country, still choose to be in my country". No matter where you go or where you live at the end of the day, everyone want to return to their place that they are born. The experience and knowledge gain for traveling and living away from the place that you're born, will always sound better and amazing, but the place where you're born and grow always be special for you.
Thank you so much for this video bro! We have been living in Ireland for the past 6 years and recently made up our mind to move back home. Like everyone else, we had doubts if we are making the right decision. Doesn’t help when everyone is strongly advising not to move back. But your video made me feel that we arent alone in this journey, and also reminded me that many does not understand the real sacrifices of living abroad. We are super excited to move back home this year and i cant wait to watch your future vlogs in Malaysia!
Hi Logesh n Rachel, I married a Turk. Even before marrying him, I knew I would be living in 2 countries, Malaysia and Turkiye. I live n work in Shah Alam, but now retired, work freelance. I go back to Istanbul for 3 months visit. Come back to Msia and work again if I want to. Then go back to Istanbul and the Black Sea region for another 3 months stay. I love the travelling. My husband works in another countries sometimes so I schedule my visit accordingly. I dont take PR or plan to give up my citizenship. I miss Msia after 3 months stay. Must balik Malaysia for the food!
Logesh , One thing I am telling you No Matter How Long You Stay Abroad , You Are AForever Foreigner. That is one of the reason Why I decided to come back and stay back from Switzerland. I don't feel home. I don't know about others but thats how i felt at that time and still ,when people ask me about staying abroad , what i can say is nice to stay as travellers but not to stay for long years. I agree with everything you said in your video. Staying almost one year in Switzerlan already made me homesick and when i get a chance to come back due to wanted to deliver my eldest late son and decided to stay back. People don't know what we go through in foreign country , they always think its beautiful and nice with the 4 Seasons ,Well All I can say is ONLY who had Experienced staying abroad for quite sometime will understand it. It depends actually on individual. Some people they really do want to stay abroad and can get along some like me Don't. In A Way It Teaches Us To Appreciate Our Own Country. "Hujan Emas Di Negeri Orang , Hujan Batu Di Negeri Sendiri" "Tempat Bermain Lagi Dingat ,Inikan Pula Tempat Jatuh" ❤❤❤🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Very true. We will always be a foreigner when abroad. Living as a student is entirely different than trying to build your life abroad. People always say they enjoyed their student life, that is because we stay close within our country men. Once you try to live on your own, the community is totally different. A lot of people complained Malaysia is bad bla bla, they have not tried living abroad. Talk is cheap.
@@somaticasia not only in Malaysia if u go other country also like that. as loges said in the video. its everywhere. u cannot change what other people thinking but take it positive side. if US also u are foreigner right? what u expect? let it be. as long as u happy
Hello from Seattle! When we got married and emigrated here, we told ourselves, lets do this for 5 years and then we go back home. 23 years later, we are still here. At this moment, we're planning our next stage in life - retirement, after kids goes off to college. For us, the longer we stay, the more rooted we get. It gets harder to leave when job is good, life is good and kids are doing well in school. We just didn't want to rock the boat and carried on living. But subconsciously, we'll always be asking ourselves, when should we go home. Both places are home for us now. It's a tough decision. I'm not married to a foreigner btw. It's easier to migrate while the kids were younger. The older they becomes it would be harder for them to adapt. Depending on their personalities. I know our kids didn't want it. They love to travel back but can't imagine living there. Too hot, culture shock, miss friends, etc...
The old saying... Home is where the heart is.... as long as you regard Malaysia as your home, definitely a great decision to return! There are people who don't regard their birth country as home, so it's easy for them to decide to stay put where they migrated to. But you already knew deep down you cannot take the Malaysia out of your heart though the physical being is not there at the moment. Support your decisions as I'm sure you know what's best for you and your family (and of course your parents will be over the moon when you come back). Hope to see you around then!
Hi Racheal and Kumar. Think about both CA. and Malaysia as homes. I have been expat for many many years now. I still maintain strong bond with my extended family and friends in Malaysia. I benefited career wise being mobile for international assignments which is add value if you are with MNCs. My children had extremely good exposure. Except the pandemic period, travelling back to Malaysia is an annual pilgrimage for us which we look forward to. My view, of course.
Frankly, 11 years is a long time. You have settled down nicely there. Your kids are exposed to the American system and way of life. You are in sunny California..no different from Malaysia. You have a secure job there. Life in Malaysia post-pandemic is not the same as those glory years of stability. I don't think both of you can adapt to the changes here, economically, socially and culturally. You must also think what's the future holds for your kids in Malaysia. Are you both brave enough to test your kids' preseverance in Malaysia public schools or international schools here? If you put them into international schools here, so what's the point of living in Malaysia? How about citizenships? Any shifts you foresee in America's stance on dual citizenship(especially your wife). You came back on short stays to visit Malaysia...and the feeling is not going to be the same if you come back for good now. Short stays tend to bring back nostalgic emotions that over ride your judgements and commitments. Ringgit is getting weaker. And you folks will be comfortable with your USD savings..awhile. Maybe after you are close to retirement and kids are all grown up..then maybe it's time to spend time back in Malaysia. Ask yourselves truthfully before coming back for good. Will you guys be happy? Are your kids going to be happy? Can they speak BM? Or maybe you are tired of staying at your current location in USA...America is huge...maybe you want to explore living in other states? Of course, we Malaysians love to have you back..to contribute to our nation. But think for your family. Don't live a life of regrets. I have seen marriages broken when folks like you after 10+ years in USA and came back for good. Job securities here.. etc..there are so many variables and uncertainties. Are they worth coming back...say in 2-5 years time? Driving in Malaysia...only the insane survives here. Are you guys up to it on the roads? Worth the stress? We are ok...we adapted because we didn't live abroad like you guys. Lastly, 11 years is a loong time. If you came back in year 4 or 5..thst's not so bad. Your seniority with your jobs there....as you ponder to come back in 5 more years...that'll be 16 years in USA! Will you get anything equivalent here in Malaysia when you start all over? Life in Malaysia is no longer easy.
You are so, right. Agree totally. I would not come back to Malaysia if I have settled for more than 10 years in a foreign country. Better to feel like a pendatang in a foreign country than being called one in your own country.
Totally agree..indeed i m looking forward to drop malaysia after 25years in and out due to my jobs in the past.. Malaysia is still a retirement land the government system and life standard is going opposite.. Short stay is good..but for people who has establised themselves abroad..besides retirement..malaysia govt is damp screw up..🤔
True facts to consider before relocating for every Asians mindsets. My suggestion it happens coz of monotonoius,speedy lifestyle makes person exhausted,fatigued. Better take 6 months detoxification therapies like Ayurveda,spas etc. Make clear body and mind then with clarity of it take relocation decision.
So many people hating Malaysia in the comments..but i love Malaysia.. it's far from perfect but it is perfect for me..✌🏻.the most important thing is as long as you're happy where you are with your family that's the best place for you... & Maybe where your heart belongs ...all the best💚
My family and I moved to New Zealand a few years back but we had to come back when my youngest child was born with health complications. We came back because we had troubles coping with working, supporting and taking care of the kids without help from our families. We left our comfort zones to move away, I went from being a GM in my company to carrying parcels for a courier company and a part time cook in a restaurant. Would I do it again? Absolutely. The perks of living in NZ are numerous, great healthcare (my boy's birth and ICU were all taken care of by the state), free education and incredibly beautiful landscapes to visit. Food wasn't a big problem because I can cook and Asian grocery stores are plentiful. But as a family with 3 very young children, it did feel very lonely at times but it did bond us closer together. We had to regroup when we came back to Malaysia, and I was almost 50 by then. I worked for a year in Malaysia before giving up my job and becoming a dad full-time. After my time in NZ I just didn't appreciate the politics and meetings as much as I did before. My wife still works. For your case, here's what I would advise. Don't come here and look for a job. It might be better to come back and apply for MM2H for Rachel, or maybe you can start a business here. I don't think you will like the work culture here in Malaysia unless you are very lucky. Education for the kids has never been easier as there are tons of private schools ( offering IGCSE and American high school accreditation) to shop around. Home schooling is also becoming popular now. I have one daughter in private school, one more goes to a Malaysian public school and my son is still in kindy. Just sharing some of my experiences and I do wish you and your family all the best. Keep up the good work!
This is brilliant. Lots of good advice and life experience to learn from. Nothing is set in stone for us and we will do our best to try and make good decisions for the the family. Thank you ❤️
That is very true...once married and have kids, one is not single anymore. Married not only to the love one but married to all sort of responsibilities one owe to one's kids. Education level in Malaysia😪 I am mother to 3 kids and I know what I am saying here... Anyway it is your life and your choice. Good luck Mr And Mrs Lokesh
What's up Logesh! I've lived in America from 1996-1999 as a University student. Graduated and came back to Malaysia. It was a great experience for me. made a lot of American friends & they have been so nice to me. We were like a family back then. Missed them so much. Thanks for this great video
I am 62 years old, a retired Malaysian government servant, and my wife is also a government servant retiring in 2 years time (God permits). We have 3 grown up children (1 married and staying with us at the moment). My son is trying to find a "stable" job, and my daughter is taking her Masters in UK in September. We are doing OK I guess, and I did have thoughts of working overseas when I was in my 40s. In summary, it really, really, really depends on your lifestyle, your expectations in life, perceptions, spiritual pathway (your beliefs) etc etc. In a nutshell, I guess, I am blessed!
12:11 Same feeling here, when I left Malaysia, I went to study abroad at Taiwan for 9 years , and stay one year in US, Florida. You grow so fast and you HAVE to be independent. I can tell how much you love Malaysia, and you want your family to be part of it, to enjoy it. But ya, whatever decision you and Rachel make, I guess you guys already consider 1000 times about it. When the time arrives, just do it. True fans don't judge, we respect, happy with you, and continue watching your videos. 🥰
You don"t need a job in Malaysia. RUclipsr is a job already! You save a lot in Malaysia, cost of living - education, house, etc. Enjoy your parents & relatives while you still can. I think the best way would be to enjoy the best of both worlds! The childhood in Malaysia is definitely more balanced - so much more outdoor life & family life & friendships etc And Malaysia is definitely the better place to grow old gracefully with the warmth of sunshine/outdoors & warmth of Malaysian hospitality. Malaysia is HOME - you seem to be looking for banana trees, palm trees, Malaysian food/taste everywhere you go in US - it shows your HEART. So, it's a good decision to live in Malaysia!
Been living in SF for 3 years now about to go on to 4 and I agree with everything you said very spot on.The accessibility to food and healthcare is the reason why I miss Malaysia so much here I do everything to make sure I dont get injured just cause of the healthcare system.US is a great and fun place to live and explore but imo not a good place to settle down due to how expensive it is
Politician will not be there forever... and it's our responsibility to make things right for our kids. What's good will never remain good forever and vice versa. Great to hear you will be back and really hope you can contribute for a better Malaysia. Love from Malaysia to you and family. ❤❤
I've lived in the UK 60 years ,,and always get told you don't belong here,rather sad ,,,I tell you guys stole 43 trillion from India over 400 years ,so we are here to collect the interest, and with brixit ,uk wants to trade with india ,,,,modi said fuck off ,,uk is nothing now ,
I've lived abroad for a short while and miss Malaysia a lot. I find nothing like home la. And Asia is starting or has been coming up now, there is nothing much to attract you to look to the West. Of course, decide or do what is suitable for you and your family. I still love Malaysia despite all its shortcomings. Healthcare in Malaysia is great and my family member is in healthcare. Nowhere is perfect, just got to work with what is good.
"Hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri,baik juga di negeri sendiri." But it depends. It's okay Kumar. As long as you and Rachel have a good life,no matter where you are Malaysia tetap di hati.
A lots of malaysians come back to Malaysia after have enough experiences and capital to set up business.. If foreigners also can build their own business networks, there no excuse for locals to do better..
As a fellow Malaysian living overseas, your thoughts resonated sooo much with me. The pull to move back to Malaysia and the stability of the present life pulling back. Your video was comforting to watch!
That a wise decision from you my brother. No matter how far we go, we will miss our family and friends and also our beloved Country. The same goes to your wife too. She will miss her family and friends too. You should think about your childrens education too. Obviously they need to enrolled in private school which i believe its not cheap too and at the same time you need to balance the current lifestyle. As u know Klang Valley is now expensive place to live in too. You have build a wonderful life in US. Yes, you are right, discrimination is everywhere. But here i can 100% assure, its only occur due to our Malaysian politics. So think carefully and decide what is best for your family. We belong here. Proud of you! Truly Malaysian!!
Whatever your decision, i hope everything will go easier and smoother for you, Rachel, the kids and Rachel's parent too. ❤️ As someone who have never leave Malaysia and love Malaysia too much, I don't think i want to stay in another country, travel yes, short term yes, long term no. Live in Malaysia, die in Malaysia for me. 😅
I lived in America for 17 yrs.We came back in 2010 after my 2 kids finished high school. The biggest draws to coming back to Malaysia for me are the affordable health care,my family,food and the weather ( Mid West winter is the worst ) The hardest thing to deal with was my kids PR status. Having been born in America to an American father they had to stay here on a visa and renewing their visa every 3 months was a nightmare. Both are working and settling overseas now but they come back to visit Malaysia which they consider their 2nd home, often. Short story,Logesh should stay in America,make lots of money,wait till the boys finish high school/ college,then come home. Meanwhile just come visit Malaysia as often as you can ( we came back almost every summer ) so Zaden n Kyren wouldnt have a huge culture shock when it's finally time to move back here. A few of my Malaysian American friends who wanted to move back here couldnt do it bc their kids just couldnt handle the heat,food and life style here. All my best wishes to the Kumaars. On a totally diff subject,yes Logesh I agree,Crocs are expensive and the ugliest shoes.Wouldnt be caught dead wearing them unless I was wading in flood water 😃
The PR status is hard to get if you're a Malaysian mom. But a Malaysian dad can get it easily. Don't know why but it has been the system for a long time. Now, there has been some women bringing this issue to the government. Hopefully there is no more gender biased in our law.
@@thatgirl6158 If I remember correctly, it was in the 90's there was an issues where foreigner(man) misused it by marrying Malaysian girl and after they get the PR status, they just abandon their wife or their get divorce. Then they will marry someone from their native country. Fortunately my BIL intend is genuine although he is a foreigner. And he admitted they are plenty of his fellow countrymen then were misuse this. However, I do hope this law to be abolish soon or amend.
True. I live in the UK but the life in the UK is hellish now. Everything is so expensive. I have been thinking of moving back to M'sia after living in the UK for 25 years since I was 21. A tough decision to make especially my pension is in the UK.
Earn USD first, then can spend as retirement in Malaysia. Malaysia is one of the best country for retirement. But for now , enjoy America and come back Malaysia as vacation. Love your family!!
Logesh n Rachel, I love what you've done to your backyard! Love the up and coming little green oasis of live plants and having enough space for the kids to run about too. About coming back to Malaysia, not yet. Have to see what happens with the government of the country. They've got to do much much much much better before that move is made. As it is now, it's a clear NO.
Yup agreed! Wondering when are we going to have the political stability like we have back then, not saying the past politic situation is great or perfect, but current situation is NOT GOOD and going worse. Kinda envy sg tho, they know what they're doing with their country, but ours is like bubble blup blup... Cannot where we're going
Here in Malaysia is all about effort dude :) To live in harmony takes great respect to all. Mom resides in Santa Rosa, me I'm Chinese Malaysian and my good friends are Indian and Malays. Even the Malays call me "Melayu" (I'm half Kelantanese). If you want to talk about this oh man I have tons to say hahaha. If I ever get to meet you in JB, Johor we will have many things to talk about :). Wish you pleasant journey and hope u get what you wanted SOONEST! ganbateh!
@@harrywoodroof9575 my grandpa yes even read Jawi Newspaper. Me understand and speaks 50/50, general bahasa very fluent, Kelantan relative speaks thai as they are Siamese bumi.
I (Malaysian) have been living abroad for all of my adult life, currently living in Europe, married to a European and we have 2 small children. I can relate to a lot of what Logesh is saying. However, we have made the decision to stay in Europe, at least until the children have grown up. The main reason for this decision is actually kind of sad - it's because my children do not have Malaysian citizenship (with me being a woman & the children were born overseas). Without Malaysian citizenship, things would be so difficult and complicated for the children. There is a court case on this issue, but I am not hopeful. Maybe someday we'll retire in Malaysia. Who knows.
@@rhemarkablegerman959 I did get it started for my son, and I was told that it could take years before I get a response. The person told me that in the 10 years she's been working at the Embassy, for cases such as mine, only one application for citizenship has been approved. I called the Embassy again after the High court judgement on citizenship, and I was told that the process will not change until they receive new instructions from Putrajaya. Not sure about the Embassy in your area, but I felt pretty disappointed after responses I got.
@@FrancescaBair So, i did do the same as you ie. Apply for citizenship for my kids and did get the same response that it could take 10 years. Then I contacted them about the high court ruling and they said they were awaiting further instructions. About a month or two ago, my embassy contacted me to say that they now have the new forms for the case of Malaysian mother. I have since registeted both my children for Malaysian citizenship and the embassy tells me that in about 3 months they expect to receieve the identity cards. (I live in Germany btw, if that info is of any use.)
@@rhemarkablegerman959 ah cool! I live in Austria :) I have not been contacted about the new forms. I will get in touch with the embassy here and see what they say.
@Florence Tan Please go to North Pole, or South Pole for cold every year. Even place like Siberia which coldest countries in the earth not as cold every year. What you expect plus global warming & climate change make everything worse.
The thoughts of me after watching this vlog, as a Malaysian staying in Taiwan for about 9 years, I couldn't find any excuses to abandon my Malaysian Passport.
Never never give up your Malaysian citizenship. Its a powerful passport and Malaysia is in the right place in Asia. The whole world is courting Malaysia and the region now. You can read the news
I live in the US and am not gvg up my passport (im a Malaysian with a green card ) . the main reason is we have better health care in Malaysia . The US healthcare system is so screwed up and expensive . Someone I know gave birth and was charged usd20k for I think 2 days . Theres no govt hospitals here . My daughter was complaining of pains in her abdominal area and was asked to go to the hospital . they did all the test ... after 2 hours , the docs sd all she needed were painkillers . they charged us use 3k++ for 2 hours . Just because we had insurance .I know Malaysia does tt too at the private hospitals but we have the option of going to govt hospitals if we do not mind waiting .
i just came back from malaysia 1 week ago. i went to langkawi, penang and kuala lumpur. I would move to malaysia in a heartbeat over the USA :D btw I was born and raised in Los Angeles, CA
When you are married to another nationality,this is already another problem. In Malaysia the immigration system is going to be tough for your spouse and kids but eventually in the end they will get they right. Of many Asian countries,I notice ,only Malaysian and Thais that " love" to go back home ,no matter how long we have been away.......so take your time adik Kumar to think about that.
ye Filipino/Indonesian usually resides to new country of working eventho they have a unitary identity but Malaysians/Thai will always come back to its home , there r who also resides but not that much like little to none not even exceeds
It’s really really good you gave the pros and cons on living aboard that especially the saying ‘the grass is greener over the other side’ well when you are on the side it isn’t, you have to sacrifice something to gain other things. It’s all up to you on what you want from that country and work towards that, I cannot live anywhere except Malaysia simple because everything I want is here, well politicians will be politicians, it’s up to us to make the change, god willing there will be a good change for Malaysia soon. Come back when you and Rachel are ready, probably when the kids are finishing college.
I am so excited for your family. With all the gun violence and the high cost of living I don't blame you all for moving back. If I could move back to South Korea I would.
Wow... Amazing story! I've been to Kuala Lumpur many times and I was considering moving there at one time. I can't stress enough, how much I love it there. The people, the food, the food alone could make me stay there! I love Indian food so naturally I went nuts eating every day, lol but I discovered so much more to eat. I feel so much at home there Such a beautiful place I can't wait to go back again, Wish you all the very best you are beautiful family
Consider this… Live tight for the next few years, save your big USA salary, then buy a place here before moving back. That would help a lot I would imagine?
Oh wow !! Glad I am not the only one contemplating moving back. After being back to Malaysia recently and realising how much I have missed family and etc. In my head money can be made anywhere and anytime but memories and time with loved ones can't. Although it is just a couple of years if I decide to move, I know how daunting it is, when it involves a whole family. Good on you bro
I understand too. I live in Penang, but having lived in Vancouver for years, I was looking forward to going there for a vacation. Two weeks in and I'm ordering Malaysian food thru UberEATS, and missing my apartment overlooking Tanjong Bungah. Have to think of a way to split my time between the 2. Good luck to you both... Malaysia is awesome. Just don't bother with the politics, or government. You'll be happier!
It up to u bro and how would Rachel would adapt if u guys move back to malaysia. With all the happenings around US, I noticed a lot of Americans from cali, moved abroad mostly due to standard of living. And also with all the shootings around the US, sometimes I do thought of how u, Rachel and the kids are doing and what kind of reactions after the news broke out. For my personal opinion, i think the US is unsafe to reside in.
There are pros and cons om both sides of the fence. I guess we have to see if the pros overweigh the cons and if the cons are acceptable and manageble.
Hi Kumar...stay there in USA. Here is not the same..you can always come back for a vacation here. If i were you. I will stay in US for the future of my kids. God Bless.
Love your two kids. They are adorable. Rachel is a terrific lady. Thank for sharing your life and being completely hones and sincere. May you be successful in your career and life.
I'm Malaysian and my personal, humble opinion is that, stay put in the USA. Your kids' work in the future there will be much more significant and has so much more lasting impact to humanity as a whole.
If you an entrepreneur with businesses around the globe earning seven or eight figures a year, then the whole family can be based in Malaysia as the cost of living is cheaper and the taxation system in Malaysia is better than US. If you are a salary earner earning less than seven figures, then it is better to comeback and retire in Malaysia when you already have sufficient money to last for the rest of your life without working.
that one line itself "I feel more Malaysian now here, then when i was back in Malaysia" is something a lot of us who lived overseas for a long time can relate to. I am sure of it.
My two cents thoughts 1. List the pros and cons which you juz share here 2. Weight them together with Rachel 3. Plan for the expenditure and make research first on all expenses plus your income to be 4. Discuss in broad over with not only Rachel but also in laws and parents plus close friends 5. Short list your decision Hope for the best for Kumaar family🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Logesh go ahead and enjoy life in USA. I had my share of living in USA,although not as long as you. However I tremendously enjoyed myself, was there at about your age. I was in the airline industry , as flyer 40 years ago there was a lot of discrimination in USA. However I drifted to the Middle East & finally head home to retire. Now family means my whole life,especially time with two grandsons. Every moment is so very precious & will not trade this for anything in this world! Time will come when your life style & people important to you will make the decision. In the mean time enjoy what you have!
As the saying goes Hujan Emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri which is equivalent to Grass is always greener but in the end Home is where the heart is.. 🥰
You WILL BE coming back? Are you SURE? Stay there, Kumaar! Education is great for your kids, you won't find it here, honestly. Life quality is much much better. And then, Rachel WILL be the one living far away from her family. Stay on there. Whenever you miss your parents and Malaysia, just fly back. (from someone who never left Malaysia).
But there are real drawbacks in the US now. Far rights are gaining acceptance. Gun violence is getting out of control, police violence, especially towards people of colour, is rampant. The US is no longer safe.
Ultimately it all depends on you and your family, kawan. I dunno, videos like these have cancelled my plans to go out of Malaysia and just enjoy EVERYTHING local. If I see you one day in Msia i'll definitely gonna give you a big hug la dunno why.
you will always be a Malaysian at heart and Rachel will always be an American at heart. As you rightly said you can't just pack up and leave some attachments can't be broken.For most of us going overseas and experiencing a different culture is a privilege. But some are lucky enough to get the opportunity. If you come back to Malaysia the most important thing that I would advise is not to have high expectations. There are positives and negatives everywhere.....you just have to know what to expect and what you are getting yourselves into. Remember, you are also making that decision for your kids while they're still small.
Your parents would love this...as parents gets older it's our responsibility to look after them.. So some times sacrifices has to be made. Especially with only son situation, lots of responsibility surely.
I never looked at you guys as Black, White Indian or American...looking at your family is like looking at the most BEAUTIFUL family. You guys are fun to watch
Saya suka tengok cara Logesh melayan Rachel..sangat bagus…❤️❤️❤️ Logesh sangat bertuah ditemukan dengan Rachel..saya rasa kamu boleh berada dimana saja di dunia ini as long as both of you are together. Logesh mesti jaga Rachel dan anak-anak dengan sangat baik sebab Rachel seorang yang sangat baik. ❤️❤️❤️
Talk about discrimination! When I tried to apply for PR for my american husband I found out that as a female citizen, there is no provision in our Malaysian Immigration to apply for it. I had to ask the lady at the Immigration to repeat it because I couldn't believe my ears. I don't know if things have changed since then but I was soooo disappointed!!
Yes relocating always comes with a price and sacrifice. Good to always weigh the pros and cons. Even if the cons outweigh and seems alot heavier with so much uncertainty but it is stilll worth a try by keeping tbe options open. We returned as a family to Malaysia after 30 yrs in Europe and it truly feels good to come home for good with no regrets. Even if you live,work and raise a family abroad you always are a Malaysian at heart. When living abroad, we take the opportunity to learn new things,compare cultural, culninary differences ,education system and so forth yet constantly feeling homesick. Rest assured Malaysia is so very unique why just to experience the sincere love,kindness and warmth of the people here with rich cultural blend ,respect and morals values makes coming home all the more worth the while.
WoW!!! Amazing after going through 11 years and still the ANAK MALAYSIA is still in you and you have the intention to come back here. Hoping all your plans go well.
HI Logesh & Rachel Thank you very much for another very interesting video yes you both have a lot to think about . Is it something you both have been thinking about for sometime. Although I am from the UK and lived here all my life but travelled a fair bit and was in a relationship but never got married I had that great opportunity of travelling to Malaysia many times through my late father living there and fell in love with that country I had been there 25 times although I am back in the UK now I still miss the country very much so everyday I read the New Straight Times and The Star to keep up with all the news there. So keep safe again thank you for sharing your everyday life. Logesh did you see the LFC fixtures yet
Wow. Thank you. I really like your videos. My husband is from the Phillipines. I was introduced to so many different foods and different ways of doing things.And so was he. I love the diversity we share. (I live in Milpitas so I go to Pleasanton to go to the fairgrounds for the alameda county fair. So I haven’t really explored pleasonton just the shopping center right off 680 to go to the fairgrounds.).
I think you're doing quite well in America. Stay put. Of course you can come back to Malaysia on visits like you did recently. Wish you all the best. best.
Hujan emas negeri orang,hujan batu negeri sendiri.Saudara paling rapat atau dekat dengan kita adalah 'Duit ur Money'. Dengan duit kita boleh beli segalanya tapi Duit juga tak boleh beli 'Kasih Sayang'. Hepi go luck to Kumar n family!! from Pekan,Pahang
If i have a chance to go overseas to live and work, definitely it's a dream come true and good experience for me. However, I'm happy that you & your lovely family decided to comeback to Malaysia as it maybe a good life changing experience for the children to learn about Malaysia❤️❤️❤️
As a Malaysian that was born and raised in Brunei, and married a Bruneian; I get you even though I was not born in Malaysia. But the thing is, being in a foreign country teaches me that no matter how long you live there, you will always, ALWAYS be considered as a foreigner.. (though I did get bullied during my whole high school year in Malaysia coz they thought that I was Bruneian due to the way that I talk) Seriously, it was a rough year for me.. but I still try to cope with it coz it left such a huge scar to me. The fear comes back now that we have a kid.. kinda scared that he will get bullied too like me.. The point is, everything have pros and cons. Being in Brunei I realized that healthcare and education is better for locals. Not to mention it's free too for them, as for us foreigners it will be a bit expensive.. somehow everywhere you go, there will always be pros and cons.. so do discuss it with Rachel coz it literally will affect your children's life for every decisions you make. Hope you guys are happy everywhere you go, coz home is where your family are 😊
Kumar & Rachel, the decision you make today will have a big impact on your children's future. Both of you have made a decent living in the States . You manage to inculcate a Malaysian culture in the life of your family and community. You live in a country which gives you the freedom and liberty to do these things, even though things may not be perfect. It takes a lot for the both of you to be where you are today. Give your children a chance to build on your legacy. Give them the opportunity to spread the Malaysian spirit of inclusivity amidst diversity in the people they meet. You can only build on that legacy if you continue living the American Dream , Malaysian style.
My wife (born in PJ) and I would like to retire to Malaysia. We are in San Francisco. We figure our kids have more opportunities here in the States. Once they are grown and move out we can make the jump.
I am a Singaporean and have lived in the UK for a very long time but have never felt at home here. I miss the food, the culture, the weather, the lifestyle. Now that my daughter is married and have a life and family of her own, I have decided it's time to pack up my bags and head home. Hujan emas di-negeri orang, hujan batu di-negeri sendiri, lebih baik negeri sendiri: Even though it may be raining gold in another country and raining stones in my own country, I consider my country is still the best! Can't wait to be surrounded by family and friends and to be able to have vacations in neighbouring countries, especially Malaysia 😍
There's nothing quite like home, huh? I might be moving to Northern Ireland in a few years and I think I'll be missing home a lot too. (I'm also Malaysian)
@@nurjalilah4806 Awak nak pindah ka-NI sebab mengikut suami ke (like me). Well, at least you won't suffer from culture shock compared to for example if your're moving to non-english speaking countries like Spain, France or Italy! Be prepared for the weather. In my case as I get older, I started to miss the malay lifestyle more and more, being surrounded by family and friends.
Our local foods beat their fish and chips, potato based diet snytime
@@tenga3tango Hahaha, True. When I first moved there many2 years ago their basic food was meat and 3 vegs, very bland and the vegs were boiled to death! They also used to make fun of the french for eating plenty of garlic 🤣
Well Come to Malaysia 🇲🇾 😏
My wife is Malaysian, I'm American. We wanted to move back to Malaysia and were making plans to leave, then the pandemic hit and shut everything down. Now we are creating a life for ourselves here in US with a 16 month old daughter. I always feel that we will settle in Malaysia at some point. Thanks for sharing your videos, always enjoy as another Malaysian-American couple.
Exactly! But it is not an easy decision to make since it affects the whole family and not me (Logesh) alone.
👍 Keren sekali dong
We are a Malaysian Eurasian/Indian Indian couple. After living in Malaysia for 20 years (We were married in Dec 1978 but she was deported back to India in 1979 and was allowed to return in 1982) we finally gave up and migrated to USA in 2002. Why? My wife was on a dependent pass while I worked in Sabah and on a year to year spouse visa while I worked in Peninsula Malaysia. We have 2 sons (Malaysian citizens) but my wife was denied a Permanent residence status (red I/C). In USA, she became a citizen in 5 years!! We will never go back.
My sons are now married and settled in USA and each family has a combined income of over $250,000 and my boys do not have university degrees.
Just stay put. You can always travel back anytime for vacation
@@siskakohlfans3301 thought that you're Siska kohl lmao, nyempil aja lo disini 😁
Saya yg asal Perak menetap di negeri lain pun rindu dgn negeri sendiri, inikan pula Logesh yg merantau jauh di negara org. I feel u bro.
It is a very difficult decision. We came back to Malaysia after living in the UK for nearly 8 years. Like you mentioned there are some pro and cons but overall we think that we made the right decision.
I’m not a malaysian but from your neighbouring country. I’m going to get married to an australian and before knowing your channel, i was very unsure of whether i should do it as i was never away from my family for more than 2 weeks. You are an inspiration to me to make it happen. Make it look so easy but just like you, food will be a major issue for me. I will learn to pick up cookinh just like you did. Thank you kumar and rachel, you are so supportive of kumar i hope my future wife can be like you to support me living in foreign land. God bless your whole fam.
Logesh ternyata anak jati Malaysia. I applaud your decision and I am quite confident you have thought this through and have a fallback plan if things do not pan out. I too spent many years abroad and there really is no substitute for your own homeland. Generally inter-ethnic, intercultural and inter-religious relations are harmonious on a people-to-people level. It is our political system and a self-interest driven political class (across all divides) living in its own bubble, divorced from the reality of most ordinary Malaysians that is the source of many of our problems. No place is perfect, similar problems exist in the West - culture wars and hyper-capitalism have disadvantaged the most socially and economically vulnerable segments of their populations. With that said, I have a sense that you as someone who has been educated and exposed to a global worldview, I am certain you will contribute greatly to our beloved country. I welcome you back and hope we can all build a better future for all.
Thank you for the encouragement bro. I agree with you 100% ❤️
I applaud your statement..sincerely honest & the truth..Cheers mate
I always look forward to getting back home and contribute something back to my country... I tried, but,...... looking at what Malaysia is becoming, I am very sad... Can't say more....
I;m in USA for 20yrs great job, great friends , born in Malaysia i am going back in soon to my motherland. No matter what i feel Malaysia is still the best place.. Family and Home.
Trust me..when u grow older, u have that feeling where you only want to stay in your own country and go back to places that bring back your childhood memories.
So true
I'm not even living abroad but I agree with you 100% as I can feel that already
I would certainly say that life is much better in Malaysia than in many countries. I would advise you to work and save as much as possible now when you are in the US, and once you are financially sound, then plan to move back to Malaysia.
Agreed but if you want a better child future go to SG . Still can enjoy Malaysian life a bit
Exactly Agree
As a SINKAPOREAN I do not agree....working life in SINKAPORE SUCKS..Maybe u mean $$$$$ but no quality...toxic environment
@@muhdmat8454 nah. malaysia has better tertiary education system than singapore despite singapore having better ranking. Out of 10 top 10 university in asean, 5 is in malaysia. just ask how many singaporean got tertiary education in university.
we have many more universities with good rankings, and are valid to work anywhere in the world.
@@ruhasli9255 hmmm this is new , well I have to try sinkie life in future. Ofcourse owning a car and house is very expensive and hard to own a house. But it's a safe country. I don't understand what you mean toxic environment. Can you explain further? I have thoughts of having a career in sinkie
Bro, Logesh, I agree with you 100% that when we're abroad, we feel more Malaysian. That happened to me when I was studying abroad for 4 years. Don't get me wrong, I was also happy to be abroad, but it was different when we are not a citizen of that country. We will always be made to feel like a foreigner. On discrimination, well yes, every country has its own set of problems and there's no perfect multiculturalism anywhere. We all have to learn to live with one another as much as we can harmoniously. Having said this, I am intrigued that you mentioned about your children, hopefully, to be able to grow up in environment that less strained by racism. We all hope for that too and I can see some positive signs. The younger generations are less fixated with racial and cultural differences, and that's a good thing.
Totally Agree , Being in another country you will always be A Foreigner(Pendatang) .
Could not have said it any better bro ❤️
@@KumaarFamily ... hi Logesh ... if it was me I'll come back to Malaysia before first born start schooling... good luck
Totally agree with your statement, sir. I was living abroad (but only for ten years in States), I experienced the 'unwritten rules' and 'unspoken feeling' :) . We learn to appreciate our surrounding in a positive way. Anyway, Malaysia is always tanah tumpah darah ku, dia, mereka dan kita semua.
Agreed. Lived in the UK for 5 years and always felt more Malaysian than ever over there
Logesh reminded me of Malay idioms/peribahasa. "Hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri, lebih baik di negeri sendiri." In English it is "raining gold in other country, raining rock in my country, still choose to be in my country". No matter where you go or where you live at the end of the day, everyone want to return to their place that they are born.
The experience and knowledge gain for traveling and living away from the place that you're born, will always sound better and amazing, but the place where you're born and grow always be special for you.
Thank you so much for this video bro!
We have been living in Ireland for the past 6 years and recently made up our mind to move back home. Like everyone else, we had doubts if we are making the right decision. Doesn’t help when everyone is strongly advising not to move back. But your video made me feel that we arent alone in this journey, and also reminded me that many does not understand the real sacrifices of living abroad.
We are super excited to move back home this year and i cant wait to watch your future vlogs in Malaysia!
Great decision. A good planning is definitely needed and Malaysia is definitely a happier place to live than USA
Thank you for helping us appreciate Malaysia even more as a Malaysian. But also as a Malaysian living overseas 🇲🇾🇲🇾❤
I've been to almost every country in this round planet. Nothing compare to my little kampung house...my late parent house...stay safe Kumaar n family.
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Hi Logesh n Rachel, I married a Turk. Even before marrying him, I knew I would be living in 2 countries, Malaysia and Turkiye. I live n work in Shah Alam, but now retired, work freelance. I go back to Istanbul for 3 months visit. Come back to Msia and work again if I want to. Then go back to Istanbul and the Black Sea region for another 3 months stay. I love the travelling. My husband works in another countries sometimes so I schedule my visit accordingly. I dont take PR or plan to give up my citizenship. I miss Msia after 3 months stay. Must balik Malaysia for the food!
Logesh , One thing I am telling you No Matter How Long You Stay Abroad , You Are AForever Foreigner. That is one of the reason Why I decided to come back and stay back from Switzerland. I don't feel home. I don't know about others but thats how i felt at that time and still ,when people ask me about staying abroad , what i can say is nice to stay as travellers but not to stay for long years. I agree with everything you said in your video. Staying almost one year in Switzerlan already made me homesick and when i get a chance to come back due to wanted to deliver my eldest late son and decided to stay back. People don't know what we go through in foreign country , they always think its beautiful and nice with the 4 Seasons ,Well All I can say is ONLY who had Experienced staying abroad for quite sometime will understand it. It depends actually on individual. Some people they really do want to stay abroad and can get along some like me Don't. In A Way It Teaches Us To Appreciate Our Own Country.
"Hujan Emas Di Negeri Orang , Hujan Batu Di Negeri Sendiri"
"Tempat Bermain Lagi Dingat ,Inikan Pula Tempat Jatuh" ❤❤❤🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Very true. We will always be a foreigner when abroad. Living as a student is entirely different than trying to build your life abroad. People always say they enjoyed their student life, that is because we stay close within our country men. Once you try to live on your own, the community is totally different. A lot of people complained Malaysia is bad bla bla, they have not tried living abroad. Talk is cheap.
@@somaticasia not only in Malaysia if u go other country also like that. as loges said in the video. its everywhere. u cannot change what other people thinking but take it positive side. if US also u are foreigner right? what u expect? let it be. as long as u happy
Hello from Seattle! When we got married and emigrated here, we told ourselves, lets do this for 5 years and then we go back home. 23 years later, we are still here. At this moment, we're planning our next stage in life - retirement, after kids goes off to college. For us, the longer we stay, the more rooted we get. It gets harder to leave when job is good, life is good and kids are doing well in school. We just didn't want to rock the boat and carried on living. But subconsciously, we'll always be asking ourselves, when should we go home. Both places are home for us now. It's a tough decision. I'm not married to a foreigner btw. It's easier to migrate while the kids were younger. The older they becomes it would be harder for them to adapt. Depending on their personalities. I know our kids didn't want it. They love to travel back but can't imagine living there. Too hot, culture shock, miss friends, etc...
The old saying... Home is where the heart is.... as long as you regard Malaysia as your home, definitely a great decision to return! There are people who don't regard their birth country as home, so it's easy for them to decide to stay put where they migrated to. But you already knew deep down you cannot take the Malaysia out of your heart though the physical being is not there at the moment. Support your decisions as I'm sure you know what's best for you and your family (and of course your parents will be over the moon when you come back). Hope to see you around then!
Hi Racheal and Kumar. Think about both CA. and Malaysia as homes. I have been expat for many many years now. I still maintain strong bond with my extended family and friends in Malaysia. I benefited career wise being mobile for international assignments which is add value if you are with MNCs. My children had extremely good exposure. Except the pandemic period, travelling back to Malaysia is an annual pilgrimage for us which we look forward to. My view, of course.
Frankly, 11 years is a long time. You have settled down nicely there. Your kids are exposed to the American system and way of life. You are in sunny California..no different from Malaysia. You have a secure job there. Life in Malaysia post-pandemic is not the same as those glory years of stability. I don't think both of you can adapt to the changes here, economically, socially and culturally. You must also think what's the future holds for your kids in Malaysia. Are you both brave enough to test your kids' preseverance in Malaysia public schools or international schools here? If you put them into international schools here, so what's the point of living in Malaysia? How about citizenships? Any shifts you foresee in America's stance on dual citizenship(especially your wife).
You came back on short stays to visit Malaysia...and the feeling is not going to be the same if you come back for good now. Short stays tend to bring back nostalgic emotions that over ride your judgements and commitments. Ringgit is getting weaker. And you folks will be comfortable with your USD savings..awhile. Maybe after you are close to retirement and kids are all grown up..then maybe it's time to spend time back in Malaysia. Ask yourselves truthfully before coming back for good. Will you guys be happy? Are your kids going to be happy? Can they speak BM?
Or maybe you are tired of staying at your current location in USA...America is huge...maybe you want to explore living in other states?
Of course, we Malaysians love to have you back..to contribute to our nation. But think for your family. Don't live a life of regrets. I have seen marriages broken when folks like you after 10+ years in USA and came back for good. Job securities here.. etc..there are so many variables and uncertainties. Are they worth coming back...say in 2-5 years time? Driving in Malaysia...only the insane survives here. Are you guys up to it on the roads? Worth the stress?
We are ok...we adapted because we didn't live abroad like you guys.
Lastly, 11 years is a loong time. If you came back in year 4 or 5..thst's not so bad. Your seniority with your jobs there....as you ponder to come back in 5 more years...that'll be 16 years in USA! Will you get anything equivalent here in Malaysia when you start all over?
Life in Malaysia is no longer easy.
Read every word. Lots of good questions and a lot to process. Thank you ❤️
You are so, right. Agree totally. I would not come back to Malaysia if I have settled for more than 10 years in a foreign country. Better to feel like a pendatang in a foreign country than being called one in your own country.
Mikhail I agree
Totally agree..indeed i m looking forward to drop malaysia after 25years in and out due to my jobs in the past.. Malaysia is still a retirement land the government system and life standard is going opposite.. Short stay is good..but for people who has establised themselves abroad..besides retirement..malaysia govt is damp screw up..🤔
True facts to consider before relocating for every Asians mindsets. My suggestion it happens coz of monotonoius,speedy lifestyle makes person exhausted,fatigued. Better take 6 months detoxification therapies like Ayurveda,spas etc. Make clear body and mind then with clarity of it take relocation decision.
So many people hating Malaysia in the comments..but i love Malaysia.. it's far from perfect but it is perfect for me..✌🏻.the most important thing is as long as you're happy where you are with your family that's the best place for you... & Maybe where your heart belongs ...all the best💚
Malaysians always welcoming you and your family here. Can't wait to watch your vlog in Malaysia again!
My family and I moved to New Zealand a few years back but we had to come back when my youngest child was born with health complications. We came back because we had troubles coping with working, supporting and taking care of the kids without help from our families. We left our comfort zones to move away, I went from being a GM in my company to carrying parcels for a courier company and a part time cook in a restaurant. Would I do it again? Absolutely. The perks of living in NZ are numerous, great healthcare (my boy's birth and ICU were all taken care of by the state), free education and incredibly beautiful landscapes to visit. Food wasn't a big problem because I can cook and Asian grocery stores are plentiful. But as a family with 3 very young children, it did feel very lonely at times but it did bond us closer together. We had to regroup when we came back to Malaysia, and I was almost 50 by then. I worked for a year in Malaysia before giving up my job and becoming a dad full-time. After my time in NZ I just didn't appreciate the politics and meetings as much as I did before. My wife still works.
For your case, here's what I would advise. Don't come here and look for a job. It might be better to come back and apply for MM2H for Rachel, or maybe you can start a business here. I don't think you will like the work culture here in Malaysia unless you are very lucky. Education for the kids has never been easier as there are tons of private schools ( offering IGCSE and American high school accreditation) to shop around. Home schooling is also becoming popular now. I have one daughter in private school, one more goes to a Malaysian public school and my son is still in kindy.
Just sharing some of my experiences and I do wish you and your family all the best. Keep up the good work!
This is brilliant. Lots of good advice and life experience to learn from. Nothing is set in stone for us and we will do our best to try and make good decisions for the the family. Thank you ❤️
Very sound advice and humble.
We are malaysian!!! We love our beloved country!! Stand together and fight for better malaysia!!!
As much as Malaysians would love you to come back ... do what is right for your family and kids. Make the right decision for their future too.
That is very true...once married and have kids, one is not single anymore. Married not only to the love one but married to all sort of responsibilities one owe to one's kids. Education level in Malaysia😪 I am mother to 3 kids and I know what I am saying here... Anyway it is your life and your choice. Good luck Mr And Mrs Lokesh
What's up Logesh! I've lived in America from 1996-1999 as a University student. Graduated and came back to Malaysia. It was a great experience for me. made a lot of American friends & they have been so nice to me. We were like a family back then. Missed them so much. Thanks for this great video
I am 62 years old, a retired Malaysian government servant, and my wife is also a government servant retiring in 2 years time (God permits). We have 3 grown up children (1 married and staying with us at the moment). My son is trying to find a "stable" job, and my daughter is taking her Masters in UK in September. We are doing OK I guess, and I did have thoughts of working overseas when I was in my 40s. In summary, it really, really, really depends on your lifestyle, your expectations in life, perceptions, spiritual pathway (your beliefs) etc etc. In a nutshell, I guess, I am blessed!
At the end of day, family matters the most, right? Happy to hear your children are doing well! Hope you're enjoying your retirement.
12:11 Same feeling here, when I left Malaysia, I went to study abroad at Taiwan for 9 years , and stay one year in US, Florida. You grow so fast and you HAVE to be independent.
I can tell how much you love Malaysia, and you want your family to be part of it, to enjoy it.
But ya, whatever decision you and Rachel make, I guess you guys already consider 1000 times about it.
When the time arrives, just do it.
True fans don't judge, we respect, happy with you, and continue watching your videos. 🥰
You don"t need a job in Malaysia. RUclipsr is a job already!
You save a lot in Malaysia, cost of living - education, house, etc.
Enjoy your parents & relatives while you still can. I think the best way would be to enjoy the best of both worlds! The childhood in Malaysia is definitely more balanced - so much more outdoor life & family life & friendships etc
And Malaysia is definitely the better place to grow old gracefully with the warmth of sunshine/outdoors & warmth of Malaysian hospitality.
Malaysia is HOME - you seem to be looking for banana trees, palm trees, Malaysian food/taste everywhere you go in US - it shows your HEART. So, it's a good decision to live in Malaysia!
This year is my 6th years in Australia 🇦🇺 and i totally agreed with you! I miss my culture and appreciate it a lot more… comparing everyday 🤣
miss the food..
HARIMAU MALAYA SHIRT WITH MALAYSIA FLAG ON IT.. YOURE SO PROUD OF MALAYSIA!! RESPECT!!!
Been living in SF for 3 years now about to go on to 4 and I agree with everything you said very spot on.The accessibility to food and healthcare is the reason why I miss Malaysia so much here I do everything to make sure I dont get injured just cause of the healthcare system.US is a great and fun place to live and explore but imo not a good place to settle down due to how expensive it is
Politician will not be there forever... and it's our responsibility to make things right for our kids. What's good will never remain good forever and vice versa. Great to hear you will be back and really hope you can contribute for a better Malaysia. Love from Malaysia to you and family. ❤❤
I've lived in the UK 60 years ,,and always get told you don't belong here,rather sad ,,,I tell you guys stole 43 trillion from India over 400 years ,so we are here to collect the interest, and with brixit ,uk wants to trade with india ,,,,modi said fuck off ,,uk is nothing now ,
Tabik spring Kumar and family. Ayuh ayuh jom kita pulang....."Love Malaysia One And The Only"
I've lived abroad for a short while and miss Malaysia a lot. I find nothing like home la. And Asia is starting or has been coming up now, there is nothing much to attract you to look to the West. Of course, decide or do what is suitable for you and your family. I still love Malaysia despite all its shortcomings. Healthcare in Malaysia is great and my family member is in healthcare. Nowhere is perfect, just got to work with what is good.
"Hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri,baik juga di negeri sendiri."
But it depends. It's okay Kumar. As long as you and Rachel have a good life,no matter where you are Malaysia tetap di hati.
A lots of malaysians come back to Malaysia after have enough experiences and capital to set up business..
If foreigners also can build their own business networks, there no excuse for locals to do better..
As a fellow Malaysian living overseas, your thoughts resonated sooo much with me. The pull to move back to Malaysia and the stability of the present life pulling back. Your video was comforting to watch!
That a wise decision from you my brother. No matter how far we go, we will miss our family and friends and also our beloved Country. The same goes to your wife too. She will miss her family and friends too. You should think about your childrens education too. Obviously they need to enrolled in private school which i believe its not cheap too and at the same time you need to balance the current lifestyle. As u know Klang Valley is now expensive place to live in too. You have build a wonderful life in US. Yes, you are right, discrimination is everywhere. But here i can 100% assure, its only occur due to our Malaysian politics. So think carefully and decide what is best for your family. We belong here. Proud of you! Truly Malaysian!!
Whatever your decision, i hope everything will go easier and smoother for you, Rachel, the kids and Rachel's parent too. ❤️ As someone who have never leave Malaysia and love Malaysia too much, I don't think i want to stay in another country, travel yes, short term yes, long term no. Live in Malaysia, die in Malaysia for me. 😅
I lived in America for 17 yrs.We came back in 2010 after my 2 kids finished high school.
The biggest draws to coming back to Malaysia for me are the affordable health care,my family,food and the weather ( Mid West winter is the worst )
The hardest thing to deal with was my kids PR status.
Having been born in America to an American father they had to stay here on a visa and renewing their visa every 3 months was a nightmare.
Both are working and settling overseas now but they come back to visit Malaysia which they consider their 2nd home, often.
Short story,Logesh should stay in America,make lots of money,wait till the boys finish high school/ college,then come home.
Meanwhile just come visit Malaysia as often as you can ( we came back almost every summer ) so Zaden n Kyren wouldnt have a huge culture shock when it's finally time to move back here.
A few of my Malaysian American friends who wanted to move back here couldnt do it bc their kids just couldnt handle the heat,food and life style here.
All my best wishes to the Kumaars.
On a totally diff subject,yes Logesh I agree,Crocs are expensive and the ugliest shoes.Wouldnt be caught dead wearing them unless I was wading in flood water 😃
The PR status is hard to get if you're a Malaysian mom. But a Malaysian dad can get it easily. Don't know why but it has been the system for a long time. Now, there has been some women bringing this issue to the government. Hopefully there is no more gender biased in our law.
@@thatgirl6158 If I remember correctly, it was in the 90's there was an issues where foreigner(man) misused it by marrying Malaysian girl and after they get the PR status, they just abandon their wife or their get divorce. Then they will marry someone from their native country. Fortunately my BIL intend is genuine although he is a foreigner. And he admitted they are plenty of his fellow countrymen then were misuse this. However, I do hope this law to be abolish soon or amend.
True. I live in the UK but the life in the UK is hellish now. Everything is so expensive. I have been thinking of moving back to M'sia after living in the UK for 25 years since I was 21.
A tough decision to make especially my pension is in the UK.
Boleh juga taman pokok kantan. Bunga cantik, wangi, senang jaga & masakan jadi lagi sedap.
Earn USD first, then can spend as retirement in Malaysia. Malaysia is one of the best country for retirement. But for now , enjoy America and come back Malaysia as vacation. Love your family!!
Agree
Absolutely
Absolutely!
9:01 “I bring color!” After the skin color and discrimination subject, is realy on point!! Love as always you two ❤️😂😂
Logesh n Rachel, I love what you've done to your backyard! Love the up and coming little green oasis of live plants and having enough space for the kids to run about too.
About coming back to Malaysia, not yet. Have to see what happens with the government of the country. They've got to do much much much much better before that move is made. As it is now, it's a clear NO.
Yup agreed! Wondering when are we going to have the political stability like we have back then, not saying the past politic situation is great or perfect, but current situation is NOT GOOD and going worse. Kinda envy sg tho, they know what they're doing with their country, but ours is like bubble blup blup... Cannot where we're going
Here in Malaysia is all about effort dude :) To live in harmony takes great respect to all. Mom resides in Santa Rosa, me I'm Chinese Malaysian and my good friends are Indian and Malays. Even the Malays call me "Melayu" (I'm half Kelantanese). If you want to talk about this oh man I have tons to say hahaha. If I ever get to meet you in JB, Johor we will have many things to talk about :). Wish you pleasant journey and hope u get what you wanted SOONEST! ganbateh!
Oh so ur half Kelantanese, can you speak Thai and Kelantanese Malay dialect?
@@harrywoodroof9575 my grandpa yes even read Jawi Newspaper. Me understand and speaks 50/50, general bahasa very fluent, Kelantan relative speaks thai as they are Siamese bumi.
@@joehanlim5497 did ur grandpa convert or just Buddhist like Siamese Bumi?
@@harrywoodroof9575 convert? as in religion? We are not religious, mostly free thinkers.
I (Malaysian) have been living abroad for all of my adult life, currently living in Europe, married to a European and we have 2 small children. I can relate to a lot of what Logesh is saying. However, we have made the decision to stay in Europe, at least until the children have grown up. The main reason for this decision is actually kind of sad - it's because my children do not have Malaysian citizenship (with me being a woman & the children were born overseas). Without Malaysian citizenship, things would be so difficult and complicated for the children. There is a court case on this issue, but I am not hopeful.
Maybe someday we'll retire in Malaysia. Who knows.
I contacted the Embassy where I live in Europe and was able to begin the process to get Malaysian citizenship for my kids. Perhaps try calling... :)
@@rhemarkablegerman959 I did get it started for my son, and I was told that it could take years before I get a response. The person told me that in the 10 years she's been working at the Embassy, for cases such as mine, only one application for citizenship has been approved. I called the Embassy again after the High court judgement on citizenship, and I was told that the process will not change until they receive new instructions from Putrajaya. Not sure about the Embassy in your area, but I felt pretty disappointed after responses I got.
@@FrancescaBair So, i did do the same as you ie. Apply for citizenship for my kids and did get the same response that it could take 10 years. Then I contacted them about the high court ruling and they said they were awaiting further instructions. About a month or two ago, my embassy contacted me to say that they now have the new forms for the case of Malaysian mother. I have since registeted both my children for Malaysian citizenship and the embassy tells me that in about 3 months they expect to receieve the identity cards. (I live in Germany btw, if that info is of any use.)
@@rhemarkablegerman959 ah cool! I live in Austria :) I have not been contacted about the new forms. I will get in touch with the embassy here and see what they say.
Malaysia is the best place to live if without corruption and politics. Weather is awesome, food are the best.
It's funny as a Malaysian i hate the weather the most. 🤣
@Florence Tan Please go to North Pole, or South Pole for cold every year. Even place like Siberia which coldest countries in the earth not as cold every year. What you expect plus global warming & climate change make everything worse.
The thoughts of me after watching this vlog, as a Malaysian staying in Taiwan for about 9 years, I couldn't find any excuses to abandon my Malaysian Passport.
Never never give up your Malaysian citizenship. Its a powerful passport and Malaysia is in the right place in Asia. The whole world is courting Malaysia and the region now. You can read the news
I live in the US and am not gvg up my passport (im a Malaysian with a green card ) . the main reason is we have better health care in Malaysia . The US healthcare system is so screwed up and expensive . Someone I know gave birth and was charged usd20k for I think 2 days . Theres no govt hospitals here . My daughter was complaining of pains in her abdominal area and was asked to go to the hospital . they did all the test ... after 2 hours , the docs sd all she needed were painkillers . they charged us use 3k++ for 2 hours . Just because we had insurance .I know Malaysia does tt too at the private hospitals but we have the option of going to govt hospitals if we do not mind waiting .
i just came back from malaysia 1 week ago. i went to langkawi, penang and kuala lumpur. I would move to malaysia in a heartbeat over the USA :D
btw I was born and raised in Los Angeles, CA
Which is your best option to move in Malaysia?
When you are married to another nationality,this is already another problem. In Malaysia the immigration system is going to be tough for your spouse and kids but eventually in the end they will get they right. Of many Asian countries,I notice ,only Malaysian and Thais that " love" to go back home ,no matter how long we have been away.......so take your time adik Kumar to think about that.
ye Filipino/Indonesian usually resides to new country of working eventho they have a unitary identity but Malaysians/Thai will always come back to its home , there r who also resides but not that much like little to none not even exceeds
It’s really really good you gave the pros and cons on living aboard that especially the saying ‘the grass is greener over the other side’ well when you are on the side it isn’t, you have to sacrifice something to gain other things. It’s all up to you on what you want from that country and work towards that, I cannot live anywhere except Malaysia simple because everything I want is here, well politicians will be politicians, it’s up to us to make the change, god willing there will be a good change for Malaysia soon. Come back when you and Rachel are ready, probably when the kids are finishing college.
I am so excited for your family. With all the gun violence and the high cost of living I don't blame you all for moving back. If I could move back to South Korea I would.
Wow... Amazing story! I've been to Kuala Lumpur many times and I was considering moving there at one time. I can't stress enough, how much I love it there. The people, the food, the food alone could make me stay there! I love Indian food so naturally I went nuts eating every day, lol but I discovered so much more to eat. I feel so much at home there Such a beautiful place I can't wait to go back again, Wish you all the very best you are beautiful family
Yes KL was voted the most liveable city in the world according to Internations. KL has changed a lot, much better of course
Consider this… Live tight for the next few years, save your big USA salary, then buy a place here before moving back. That would help a lot I would imagine?
Oh wow !! Glad I am not the only one contemplating moving back. After being back to Malaysia recently and realising how much I have missed family and etc. In my head money can be made anywhere and anytime but memories and time with loved ones can't. Although it is just a couple of years if I decide to move, I know how daunting it is, when it involves a whole family. Good on you bro
you r rite bro
You can tell just by logesh’s words that the actual intention of the their RUclips channel goes far deeper than just having a fun family channel.
rachel going to fit well in malaysia. people spent fortune to stay in malaysia. expat community is huge in malaysia.
I understand too. I live in Penang, but having lived in Vancouver for years, I was looking forward to going there for a vacation. Two weeks in and I'm ordering Malaysian food thru UberEATS, and missing my apartment overlooking Tanjong Bungah. Have to think of a way to split my time between the 2. Good luck to you both... Malaysia is awesome. Just don't bother with the politics, or government. You'll be happier!
It up to u bro and how would Rachel would adapt if u guys move back to malaysia. With all the happenings around US, I noticed a lot of Americans from cali, moved abroad mostly due to standard of living. And also with all the shootings around the US, sometimes I do thought of how u, Rachel and the kids are doing and what kind of reactions after the news broke out. For my personal opinion, i think the US is unsafe to reside in.
There are pros and cons om both sides of the fence. I guess we have to see if the pros overweigh the cons and if the cons are acceptable and manageble.
Wow! Great news Kumaar. May god bless your decision & make it an easy procedure & best choice. Regards to Rachel & kids.
Hi Kumar...stay there in USA. Here is not the same..you can always come back for a vacation here. If i were you. I will stay in US for the future of my kids. God Bless.
Love your two kids. They are adorable. Rachel is a terrific lady. Thank for sharing your life and being completely hones and sincere. May you be successful in your career and life.
I'm Malaysian and my personal, humble opinion is that, stay put in the USA. Your kids' work in the future there will be much more significant and has so much more lasting impact to humanity as a whole.
Huury Up,mate..I am going home to Malaysia after 34 years in NZ and Australia...next month..see ya there
Well said. Happy to hear that. But hopefully u never stop make the content wherever you are. Home sweet home!
If you an entrepreneur with businesses around the globe earning seven or eight figures a year, then the whole family can be based in Malaysia as the cost of living is cheaper and the taxation system in Malaysia is better than US. If you are a salary earner earning less than seven figures, then it is better to comeback and retire in Malaysia when you already have sufficient money to last for the rest of your life without working.
that one line itself "I feel more Malaysian now here, then when i was back in Malaysia" is something a lot of us who lived overseas for a long time can relate to. I am sure of it.
My two cents thoughts
1. List the pros and cons which you juz share here
2. Weight them together with Rachel
3. Plan for the expenditure and make research first on all expenses plus your income to be
4. Discuss in broad over with not only Rachel but also in laws and parents plus close friends
5. Short list your decision
Hope for the best for Kumaar family🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Thank you! It's a big decision to make. 👍
@@KumaarFamily welcome bro and sis…dont rush on it
Logesh go ahead and enjoy life in USA. I had my share of living in USA,although not as long as you. However I tremendously enjoyed myself, was there at about your age. I was in the airline industry , as flyer 40 years ago there was a lot of discrimination in USA. However I drifted to the Middle East & finally head home to retire. Now family means my whole life,especially time with two grandsons. Every moment is so very precious & will not trade this for anything in this world! Time will come when your life style & people important to you will make the decision. In the mean time enjoy what you have!
As the saying goes Hujan Emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri which is equivalent to Grass is always greener but in the end Home is where the heart is.. 🥰
You WILL BE coming back? Are you SURE? Stay there, Kumaar! Education is great for your kids, you won't find it here, honestly. Life quality is much much better. And then, Rachel WILL be the one living far away from her family. Stay on there. Whenever you miss your parents and Malaysia, just fly back. (from someone who never left Malaysia).
Asian countries are better at education compared to America
You're right ✅
It's hard to make a living in malaysia
Stay there....bro, good life overthere...
Once im studied overthere...
If missed...yup, just fly back...
But there are real drawbacks in the US now. Far rights are gaining acceptance. Gun violence is getting out of control, police violence, especially towards people of colour, is rampant. The US is no longer safe.
Ultimately it all depends on you and your family, kawan. I dunno, videos like these have cancelled my plans to go out of Malaysia and just enjoy EVERYTHING local. If I see you one day in Msia i'll definitely gonna give you a big hug la dunno why.
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you will always be a Malaysian at heart and Rachel will always be an American at heart. As you rightly said you can't just pack up and leave some attachments can't be broken.For most of us going overseas and experiencing a different culture is a privilege. But some are lucky enough to get the opportunity. If you come back to Malaysia the most important thing that I would advise is not to have high expectations. There are positives and negatives everywhere.....you just have to know what to expect and what you are getting yourselves into. Remember, you are also making that decision for your kids while they're still small.
Your parents would love this...as parents gets older it's our responsibility to look after them.. So some times sacrifices has to be made. Especially with only son situation, lots of responsibility surely.
I never looked at you guys as Black, White Indian or American...looking at your family is like looking at the most BEAUTIFUL family. You guys are fun to watch
Saya suka tengok cara Logesh melayan Rachel..sangat bagus…❤️❤️❤️ Logesh sangat bertuah ditemukan dengan Rachel..saya rasa kamu boleh berada dimana saja di dunia ini as long as both of you are together. Logesh mesti jaga Rachel dan anak-anak dengan sangat baik sebab Rachel seorang yang sangat baik. ❤️❤️❤️
Talk about discrimination! When I tried to apply for PR for my american husband I found out that as a female citizen, there is no provision in our Malaysian Immigration to apply for it. I had to ask the lady at the Immigration to repeat it because I couldn't believe my ears. I don't know if things have changed since then but I was soooo disappointed!!
Yes relocating always comes with a price and sacrifice. Good to always weigh the pros and cons. Even if the cons outweigh and seems alot heavier with so much uncertainty but it is stilll worth a try by keeping tbe options open. We returned as a family to Malaysia after 30 yrs in Europe and it truly feels good to come home for good with no regrets. Even if you live,work and raise a family abroad you always are a Malaysian at heart. When living abroad, we take the opportunity to learn new things,compare cultural, culninary differences ,education system and so forth yet constantly feeling homesick. Rest assured Malaysia is so very unique why just to experience the sincere love,kindness and warmth of the people here with rich cultural blend ,respect and morals values makes coming home all the more worth the while.
I have moved from my home in the uk to Malaysia. It will be interesting to see where you end up living when you do eventually move back to Malaysia
Come back bro. Welcome back soon. Malaysia 🇲🇾 is the best home.
WoW!!! Amazing after going through 11 years and still the ANAK MALAYSIA is still in you and you have the intention to come back here. Hoping all your plans go well.
One thing, the houses are big spacious in US. I love your house. We can't afford that in Malaysia
HI Logesh & Rachel
Thank you very much for another very interesting video yes you both have a lot to think about .
Is it something you both have been thinking about for sometime.
Although I am from the UK and lived here all my life but travelled a fair bit and was in a relationship but never got married I had that great
opportunity of travelling to Malaysia many times through my late father living there and fell in love with that country I had been there 25 times although I am back in the UK now I still miss the country very much so everyday I read the New Straight Times and The Star to keep up with all the news there.
So keep safe again thank you for sharing your everyday life.
Logesh did you see the LFC fixtures yet
Such an interesting topic that has been shared. My honest recommendation would be to stay in America and visit Malaysia.
Thanks 🙏🏻 Logesh for the advices and sharing it with us. But omg Rachel, you look so so gorgeous in this video.
Happy to hear you’re coming back! Hope my brother and his wife will soon come back too
Wow. Thank you. I really like your videos. My husband is from the Phillipines. I was introduced to so many different foods and different ways of doing things.And so was he. I love the diversity we share. (I live in Milpitas so I go to Pleasanton to go to the fairgrounds for the alameda county fair. So I haven’t really explored pleasonton just the shopping center right off 680 to go to the fairgrounds.).
I think you're doing quite well in America. Stay put. Of course you can come back to Malaysia on visits like you did recently. Wish you all the best. best.
Hujan emas negeri orang,hujan batu negeri sendiri.Saudara paling rapat atau dekat dengan kita adalah 'Duit ur Money'. Dengan duit kita boleh beli segalanya tapi Duit juga tak boleh beli 'Kasih Sayang'. Hepi go luck to Kumar n family!! from Pekan,Pahang
America is not bad and Malaysia is not bad. We both have good and bad sides. Have an open mind and experience everything. Enjoy life.
malaysia has better healthcare tho. maybe logesh and rachel should consider it as a place for retirement
You always inspiring me a lot
If i have a chance to go overseas to live and work, definitely it's a dream come true and good experience for me. However, I'm happy that you & your lovely family decided to comeback to Malaysia as it maybe a good life changing experience for the children to learn about Malaysia❤️❤️❤️
As a Malaysian that was born and raised in Brunei, and married a Bruneian; I get you even though I was not born in Malaysia. But the thing is, being in a foreign country teaches me that no matter how long you live there, you will always, ALWAYS be considered as a foreigner.. (though I did get bullied during my whole high school year in Malaysia coz they thought that I was Bruneian due to the way that I talk) Seriously, it was a rough year for me.. but I still try to cope with it coz it left such a huge scar to me. The fear comes back now that we have a kid.. kinda scared that he will get bullied too like me..
The point is, everything have pros and cons. Being in Brunei I realized that healthcare and education is better for locals. Not to mention it's free too for them, as for us foreigners it will be a bit expensive.. somehow everywhere you go, there will always be pros and cons.. so do discuss it with Rachel coz it literally will affect your children's life for every decisions you make.
Hope you guys are happy everywhere you go, coz home is where your family are 😊
Kumar & Rachel, the decision you make today will have a big impact on your children's future. Both of you have made a decent living in the States . You manage to inculcate a Malaysian culture in the life of your family and community. You live in a country which gives you the freedom and liberty to do these things, even though things may not be perfect.
It takes a lot for the both of you to be where you are today. Give your children a chance to build on your legacy. Give them the opportunity to spread the Malaysian spirit of inclusivity amidst diversity in the people they meet.
You can only build on that legacy if you continue living the American Dream , Malaysian style.
I couldn't agree more!
Mcm la msia ni trok sgt! Tu kt usa tu baguih sgt ke. Yg tembak rambang mati org awam tu good sgt ke???
Good luck Kummar, wish you and your kids have a good future in Malaysia.....especially your kids.