I jwent out and bought the large 50 ml bottle of Syun-gyo knowing I would probably love it. I just swatched it this morning and I know I was right. The ink is so unique, sometimes looking a bit red, sometimes brown, and then dries a brownish dark dusty purple with some green sheen. Wow! I can't wait to get this in a pen.
I have just bought Montblanc Manganese Orange and it looks very similar to the To-Ro. Actually the Kobe Ink PoroPoro is in my opinion exactly the same shade of orange as the Manganese Orange. The Lamy Mango is very close too. For me it looks that a lot of orange colours are very similar, maybe because they look the best in that shade? I like them very much
Syun-gyo is such a hard-to-categorize ink. I swatched it on the original Tomoe River paper and it looks like a dusky purple with slight green sheen where it pooled. Rhodia paper, a dark, reddish purple -- almost burgundy. On a Write pad, it looks like dark raisin (inspired by your term). I put it in a Platinum pen with a medium gold nib, and the color still looks different on each paper but I'd probably classify it as a purple. My Col-o-dex card looks a lot like yours, and is the only place where I can kind of understand why some are calling this a brown. The "red black" descriptor is just not right. Maybe a look at the chromatography would help. (I also got Rikka and also found it exceeded my expectations.)
Right? Rikka is so much more interesting than anticipated. I love that Pilot is making an ink with a color like Syun-Gyo that is so weird. Good for them!
I thought the same, but side by side, they are very different. Fukaki Hanada (one of my favorite blue inks) is greyer and softer than Rikka. Rikka is a brighter blue, edging closer to turquoise..
To my eye, Syun-gyo is in the same color family as Colorverse Pillars of Creation. They're not a match, but if you look at Shun-gyo without the sheen, the purple tones are similar.
Thank you for this. Like you, I find the initial swatches of Syun-gyo look completely different from yours. The early swatches were beautiful, but this, not my jam. I'm glad I didn't grab it.
hmm. Maybe so. I don't know if I looked at Sapphire since it's a shimmer. They're in a different box, and so I didn't think to look at that one. I wanna say that Sapphire is darker, but I'll have to check.
Thanks! I always know I'm getting Japanese words wrong, but I seem to get them wrong in so many ways that I can't even hone in on HOW I'm messing them up.
@inkdependence a lot of brands use a very traditional way of writing japanese words using roman alphabet. It shows how "classic" they are to japanese people, but its really unhelpful for non-japanese speakers
Inks all, but not (as Patsy says to Sit Launcelot) right for my idiom. I don’t get Wearingeul Don Quixote. How could anyone take just a vibrant, complex novel and come up with that flat brown? Not even a shimmer of rusty armor or a hint of the Golden Helmet of Mambrino. Nothing that evokes the green of the partial sings out the sharpness of the with. Hmph, I tell you! Hmph!
Don Quixote is just weird. I really wanted to like it, and I think it was the first Wearingeul I bought, but it's just kinda disappointing. I'm with ya.
Interesting inks all, but not (as Patsy says to Sir Launcelot) right for my idiom. I don’t get Wearingeul Don Quixote. How could anyone take such a vibrant, complex novel and come up with that flat brown? Not even a shimmer of rusty armor or a hint of the Golden Helmet of Mambrino. Nothing that evokes the green of the pastoral scenes nor the sharpness of the wit. Hmph, I tell you! Hmph!
Toro and Syun-gyo are disappointing. The former is too light and warm, the latter is a boring brown-black. I don't even want to get Rikka. I can confirm that in normal writing, you don't get the green sheen with Syun-gyo, even with a broad nib on TR paper.
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I don't need more ink, I don't need more ink, I don't ...
@ganderian You just keep telling yourself that. Let me know how it works for you. 😏
pilot keeps taking out such beautiful inks, still sad I don't have iro-ha from years ago
I jwent out and bought the large 50 ml bottle of Syun-gyo knowing I would probably love it. I just swatched it this morning and I know I was right. The ink is so unique, sometimes looking a bit red, sometimes brown, and then dries a brownish dark dusty purple with some green sheen. Wow! I can't wait to get this in a pen.
I really like it, too. Enjoy!
Pilot Syun-gyo seems like my jam. I love Pilot inks.
Love a good shout out! Nice review buddy!
I have just bought Montblanc Manganese Orange and it looks very similar to the To-Ro. Actually the Kobe Ink PoroPoro is in my opinion exactly the same shade of orange as the Manganese Orange. The Lamy Mango is very close too. For me it looks that a lot of orange colours are very similar, maybe because they look the best in that shade? I like them very much
Rikka is my jam.. I like all three.. Great vid!
Glad you liked them!
That Syun-gyo looks like a brown-pink to me. Like a darker Sailor Kitsune Biyori. I'd be curious to see it diluted a bit.
That’s an interesting idea.
Love your channel. Happy New Year! :)
Same to you!
Great review. Rikki to me looks like Diamine Polar Glow and Syun-gyo looks like Lamy Dark Lilac 2024
Syun-Gyo isn't that purple or sheeny. It's more of a raisin than a lilac, I think.
Nice video. Thank you
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Thanks! Glad you liked it.
So, three interesting inks. Neat.
Yep!
Syun-gyo is such a hard-to-categorize ink. I swatched it on the original Tomoe River paper and it looks like a dusky purple with slight green sheen where it pooled. Rhodia paper, a dark, reddish purple -- almost burgundy. On a Write pad, it looks like dark raisin (inspired by your term). I put it in a Platinum pen with a medium gold nib, and the color still looks different on each paper but I'd probably classify it as a purple. My Col-o-dex card looks a lot like yours, and is the only place where I can kind of understand why some are calling this a brown. The "red black" descriptor is just not right. Maybe a look at the chromatography would help. (I also got Rikka and also found it exceeded my expectations.)
Right? Rikka is so much more interesting than anticipated. I love that Pilot is making an ink with a color like Syun-Gyo that is so weird. Good for them!
Love Rikka, but strikes to me a lot like Taccia Fukaki-Hanada, will have to see the two next to each other someday
I thought the same, but side by side, they are very different. Fukaki Hanada (one of my favorite blue inks) is greyer and softer than Rikka. Rikka is a brighter blue, edging closer to turquoise..
@marilyngardner4269 ohh! Thanks! Definitively Rikka goes to the wishlist!
To my eye, Syun-gyo is in the same color family as Colorverse Pillars of Creation. They're not a match, but if you look at Shun-gyo without the sheen, the purple tones are similar.
I don't have that one, but there are LOTS of Colorverse that I don't have.
Thank you for this. Like you, I find the initial swatches of Syun-gyo look completely different from yours. The early swatches were beautiful, but this, not my jam. I'm glad I didn't grab it.
I've heard that this one looks different on different papers, but the ones I've used all look fairly similar.
Syun gyo seems similar to Diamine Winter Spice without the blue shimmer...
I think Winter Spice is way more brown than SG, though...
Rikka looks similar to KWZ x Galen Leather’s Sapphire.
hmm. Maybe so. I don't know if I looked at Sapphire since it's a shimmer. They're in a different box, and so I didn't think to look at that one. I wanna say that Sapphire is darker, but I'll have to check.
Its more like "shoon gyoh", but its pilot's fault for using a romanization that isn't phoenetic
Thanks! I always know I'm getting Japanese words wrong, but I seem to get them wrong in so many ways that I can't even hone in on HOW I'm messing them up.
@inkdependence a lot of brands use a very traditional way of writing japanese words using roman alphabet. It shows how "classic" they are to japanese people, but its really unhelpful for non-japanese speakers
Inks all, but not (as Patsy says to Sit Launcelot) right for my idiom.
I don’t get Wearingeul Don Quixote. How could anyone take just a vibrant, complex novel and come up with that flat brown? Not even a shimmer of rusty armor or a hint of the Golden Helmet of Mambrino. Nothing that evokes the green of the partial sings out the sharpness of the with. Hmph, I tell you! Hmph!
Don Quixote is just weird. I really wanted to like it, and I think it was the first Wearingeul I bought, but it's just kinda disappointing. I'm with ya.
Interesting inks all, but not (as Patsy says to Sir Launcelot) right for my idiom.
I don’t get Wearingeul Don Quixote. How could anyone take such a vibrant, complex novel and come up with that flat brown? Not even a shimmer of rusty armor or a hint of the Golden Helmet of Mambrino. Nothing that evokes the green of the pastoral scenes nor the sharpness of the wit. Hmph, I tell you! Hmph!
Toro and Syun-gyo are disappointing. The former is too light and warm, the latter is a boring brown-black. I don't even want to get Rikka.
I can confirm that in normal writing, you don't get the green sheen with Syun-gyo, even with a broad nib on TR paper.
Rikka vs pelham blue?
I don't have that one, but the images on line make Pelham look brighter and less dusky than Rikka.
The Helianthus comparison was super helpful to me, thanks! 🫶
Glad it was helpful!