Buyer Beware: Problems with All-on-4 Full Video
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I’m a dentist that was considering offering all on 4 at my office. As soon as I saw a few live surgeries and witnessed the removal of bone to create space for the prosthesis , I decided that I could never offer such a procedure to my patients. We were taught to preserve hard and soft tissues in school and now doctors are removing shocking amounts of bone instead. Couldn’t sleep well at night knowing I’ve done such a thing . Implant bridges are the way to go.
Ya but most cannot ever afford those, that's the issue!
Thank you for your integrity, professionalism and common sense, Doctor.
You are absolutely correct it should be more affordable. It will never happen. When there is non surgical means of replacing teeth. That are cost effective and low risk. Instead trade it for something that has risk of failure and infection. You very mistaken. Will use me and the trouble with my teeth. See if I should have implants. I have severe gum disease. Which is already causing bone loss. I am 51 years old and in good health. I have very severe tooth decay. Teeth that are broken at the gum line. Previous infections have have spread beyond the tooth. They can be seen on dental X-Ray. Now they are in the bone. Any dentist who was decent dentist. Would not put implants in my mouth. I would be at high risk for failure of the implant and infection. The impression molds for denture fitting. Would be in front me in second. How about we make it so everyone can see dentist. From the time they are child until they die. See doctors from the time people are kids until you die. Makes a lot more sense to me.
Now this comment I agree with 😊
My main problem with the procedure is that patients are not being told that large amounts of bone are being removed.
That's what I said.why aren't they telling this to the patients 😮😢it's just not right.and what confused me is they say ,you have to have nice amount of bone for all on 4.but why? When they cut a half or more inch of your bone anyways for the implants denture to fit 😮crazy.and why so expensive.it should be medically.we need teeth to eat and function.its not cosmetics 💅💄 dammit.😅
And wow! Just wow with this doctor. He’s been the only video out of my 80hrs of research, to sound like a REAL doctor! No one will ever grind my jaw down. Not ever. Thank you for this
Glad to be of help!
I've been researching for the past 3 year's
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter hi Dr my name is Dennis Lannigan. I was wondering if you could recommend anybody that will do dental bridges in New Jersey I’m not looking for the cookie cutter type where they grind your jawbone down. I’m looking for something like three on six type of procedure can you please help and I agree that dental should be part of our healthcare. Thank you very much.
I’m angry that so many dentists just see the $$ signs and suggest all-on-4 treatments and do not go into the detail of what possible failures look like. THAT IS NOT INFORMED CONSENT! I’ve had failed implants and now have snap-in lower and a full upper denture. But the tissue and bone loss continues. I still have inflammation and infection around the sharp edges of the screw ridges that are showing on retained implants. I think they will eventually also
Have to be removed due to continuing problems. I really appreciate this informative video and your time in presenting.
UGH !! So sorry to hear this. And, yes, it is NOT "informed consent" !
When is there going to be lobbying for oral care to be classified as HEALTH CARE instead of mostly cosmetic? A major portion portion of the population can neither afford oral treatment nor saving enough for the treatments.
Once they realize that dental problems are causing more mental issues than all other mental disorders
So true!why are tummy tucks covered and gastric bypass to get skinny...but NOT teeth when those of us get a raw deal genetically.... and need them...not forcosmetic purpose?
All money they spent on military, weapons, wars if they use for health and dental, everybody would be healthy and have nice looking teeth.
Dental also cause more medical problems . Union paid dental insurance only allows about 1700 a year... That is the price of 1 regular regular crown. 1 tooth a year! All need to speak up loudly.
Right! Having poor oral health can be the cause of heart disease and other health problems, so frustrating
Amazing honest information. Probably the best I've seen on all on 4 disadvantages.
I appreciate that!
This is the best video that i have seen on teeth replacement, the choices you have, and the effects of those choices.
The dentist that i have gone to have all went straight to the all on 4.😢
Thank you for this!
Im actually going to get the bridges done today. I could not afford the all on four. I thank God I saw this video.
I'm glad it was helpful. Good luck with your treatment!
I love you for creating this video, as a prospective patient outside the US (otherwise I would be coming straight to your office) it gives me some level of knowledge about what to ask about in advance. This is such a scary situation to be in with so many unscrupulous dentists (in a year of interviews I still have not met one who is not.) Bless you
I’m glad it’s been helpful. That was my goal in starting this channel: To help people be better informed. I wish you the best of luck on your search.
I'm a dentist in another state and don't know Dr MacFadden. For those patients thinking about using his practice please consider what he's saying here even if it is counter to what other videos are showing you. Well done Dr MacFadden.
Thank you. Glad to know other dental professionals have discovered the same.
Do you offer this service?
May I ask where your office is? And is there a dentist in Florida that does this procedure?
@mlbroblox4639 in Florida I would recommend Dr Robert Shectman in the Ft Lauderdale area
@@petercalomeris7971 Hi do you know anyone in the Maryland area? Thanks
I am in tears after watching this. I had most of my teeth and was told by the sales person that all my teeth would eventually decay and need to come out. I saw a ton of videos, before and after pictures and fell hook, line a sinker for the pitch. I had one tooth missing on the side that showed when I smiled and I no longer smiled because of that hole, my smile had been my best feature. Now, after the surgery just three weeks ago, my entire lower part of my face looks like it was chopped off. My once full lips are sunken into my head and I have these itty bitty lips. I look like I am missing all my teeth until I smile and then my smile looks demented. I lisp terribly and spit when I talk, I don't even want to go out in public. I was pretty three weeks ago, now I just look like I am 90. My chin is gone. I was told after the fact that I had advanced periodontal disease. Why on earth would they tell me I had plenty of bone and was a perfect candidate for this procedure? I am devastated. I live in Fort Worth, I will be contacting your office for a consultation.
I so wish I had seen this video before I had this done, I would have come to you instead.
I’m so sorry you’re suffering like this. I will look forward to meeting you.
Hi Jill ! How are you doing so far. I looked just like that, I felt my beautiful smile faded away, my chin looked like chopped off also , but now it recovered its natural shape. My dr took out my temps after 4 weeks due to the pain and discomfort I was feeling. My dentist did a bad job with the impression though. I was without the temps for one month and a half and with the exposed abutments. And I could see my chin was kind of flat and thought my chin bone was broken, and that was the cause of the excrutiang pain I was feeling. But it was not!! Something change in our physiognomy after surgery, but it doesn't stay 100% that way. But things will become to the natural look when we get our permanent teeth, no more bulky lips like with the temps, making us look someone different. I still have to deal with that a little bit. Eventhough I made it smooth out a lot with the lab tech guy. My lower lip still scabs 24/7 , sometimes I get hurt peeling it off. Yes I use lip balm and hidrate a lot, but still scabs. My smile looks wider than my natural one and that is because the temps are bulky and forwarded a little bit . And stretches my lower lip making it scabby and also making me look my smile completely different. But I am ok with that, I know everything will be different and normal or close to normal when I get my permanents and final work. Hopefully you are doing great and learning how to deal with all that discomfort you were going through. Everything is gonna be ok.
Be safe! 🤗🤗
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter I’m looking forward to coming in as well! So glad I found Dr. McFadden’s videos!
@@slimgirl1712 Thank you so much Lucy! You just gave me some hope. The owner of the chain has promised to fix my situation but can’t do anything until my implants are set at the 5 month mark. I am still going to see Dr. McFadden because I’m not entirely sure I trust the place I went to. They never disclosed anything to me and I felt like they just wanted to take my money. Sigh… I’m glad you are happy with your smile now! I know the day will come when I will be happy with mine. 😊
Thank You Dr McFadden
I got Snap-ins 4 yrs ago that never functioned so I took them back again and again over 4 years.
I began researching your Website, you've taught me all I need to know.
I'd thought of coming to Dallas but have finally decided to go to Nuvia here in Detroit for Implant Bridges.
My appointment for consultation is Sept 5th.
I wanted to thank you for all of your educational videos which are excellent.
I share your videos with everyone.
Wish me luck please Dr McFadden.
I wish it were you
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What a nice honest Doctor. Beautiful and educational information. Thank God, I watched your video today. We love you for all the information.
Youre a good man, doc. An honorable man of exceptional practice in your profession. Im sure there are many great dentists out there, but i cant help but wondering how many there are that offer these "solutions" who actually take into consideration the whole of these critical variables as thoroughly and as dutifully as you have in this video, and obviously do in your work. Again, cheers to you.
Thank you. I appreciate that!
Thanks for the awesome explanation you have saved me a lot of money and pain. I should jump on a plane and fly to one of your clinics .
Thank you Doctor for your time and compassion May God Bless You.
You’re welcome.
And.
Thank you, Diane. 😁
THANK U FOR YOUR HONESTY & INTEGRITY!! 🙌🏼
You are so welcome!
Very good information. My plans to get this done real soon. So I'm doing some research on it now.
Such good information, thankyou from Australia for creating this video.
Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you so much for this educational video. I was just about to start all on 6 procedure but reconsidered and will aim to do a bone reconstruction on the sides, sinus lift and try to get dental bridges instead. More painful, more time, more expensive but we’ll worth it. Too bad I’m in Canada, otherwise would definitely visit your clinic.
You’re welcome. I’m glad you found this informative enough to seek an alternate option. My goal in making this video was to help educate people before they have it done, or, at the very least, to help them to be FULLY informed of the potential downsides and to present a better option. I wish you the very best with your treatment!
I just had a consult today for All on 4 dentures. I wanted the snap on mainly because I want to clean my prosthetic outside my mouth. The dentist was Gung ho on the all on 4 but I can't afford nor would I be happy. I felt like I was at a timeshare closing meeting.(humour) I took all the procedure estimates but held fast to thinking it over. Now you have me thinking.
Good for you! It’s a huge decision. Do what’s right FOR YOU.
Thank you so much for providing this information. I have been considering all in for treatment and now and further educated on what that would mean in terms of bone reduction. Bone reduction is the whole reason why I wanted all on four because the bone loss I have experienced after having all of my teeth removed two years ago. I am shocked to hear that they remove a lot of the bone in order to make way for the prosthesis
Everyone is different. The amount of bone removal would be directly proportional to and relative to your bone resorption pattern and volume. If you've already lost a great deal of bone volume, there would be less bone removal involved. I hope this helps.
@dentalimplantcenter532 I am confused. Why are you offering 4 on 4 in your practice today if the bone reduction is not recommended? Also, what about the cleaning? Thanks if you can answer because I have a consult tomorrow 3/8/24. After reading all this I'm thinking NO WAY, however I am going because I want to see if I can get the truth. But probably no way I will risk having this and living with the problems many of your commenters here report. This is sad.
Thank you for doing the presentation
Amazing honest information. Probably the best I've seen on all on 4 disadvantages. I had an all on 4 on before 10 days and after the surgery there is no pain the front and the right side but my left upper part is feeling too pain. is it normal?
Pain this many days later is not common. Have you been back for a follow-up? If so, what did they tell you?
To recognize all the possibilities and to choose the sustainable way to treat every individual is the responsibility of the medical service provider. We, dentists, should practice not only implant dentistry but also orthodontics, periodontology, endodontics...., and so on. Maximum preservation of tissues still is the mainstream principle. The dental implant does not have a periodontal ligament, so the perception of force is less sensitive, and to keep natural teeth may be the first order except making the reconstruction work compromised in esthetics or complex works in mass GBR. Thank you for your nice and justified presentation.
Can you fit my dentures in lower, as I want to get maybe 2 clips. My 1st set of teeth had 4 bottoms to snap in and hold. My dentist told me I should have the metal snaps so that if my teeth went bad that were there for clips. That knowing these teeth were also bad and would actually be rotting eventually. So I got the metal lower set fitting... So if I would have got the plastic clips I would have had a big bill to pay. Where as the metal if my teeth were pulled the teeth missing In the lower denture would be free of cost to add fake teeth when I needed them pulled! Well I got them pulled, and my original Dr. Moved to a new country. So the new dentist said that my gums had changed so much that he wouldn't want to use someone else's work. He redid my dentures, and my teeth that were pulled took forever to heal. About 6 months! Then he fitted me for bottom dentures. When he was putting the piece in my mouth to pure in the solution to set where and how my teeth needed to be fitted. The piece they were trying to force it in. Instead of using maybe a child's mold piece as my mouth is so small. I could hardly keep my mouth stretched. They told me I needed to let them do this they forced my mouth open so bad my lips bled for days I had sores all over lips. And they said if I didn't let them continue, because it was so bad that I was crying! They said I wouldn't be able to get my new teeth. I've had them for 2 years and had not ever been able to wear my bottoms yet. I've been back to him several times he talks for 3 minutes and the assistant pores the mold to try to fix them. My set was never filed and or smoothed correctly. I had a bite that would catch my gums and bite Everytime my mouth would move. The back dentures are just white acrylic look like molars. He had to file them down so much it was only an eye illusion that I had. Molurs. So I have been through alit . My first time the dentist was pulling all bottom at once and all top at once so she started and my teeth were hooked so much and double rooted, that she was using her foot on the chair and her and assistant had such a hard time getting them out we were exhausted. She said if known she would've put me to sleep. Even my front teeth top and bottom were double rooted and hooked.
My mouth healed quickly but from the mouth going through unusual trauma from being hooked and double rooted, I thought there were teeth growing in on my top roof and bottom of gums. Well they did more x-rays so that entailed that my head face had more bone than others and it was from trauma that this bone was pooping out and it took a while summer 5 surgeries for removing all the bone that stuck out like teeth. So I believe that sitting all summer by the time I got my 1st set my gums had already changed, and to big. Also it had taken so long that my whole structures changed. When I went to surgeon they wouldn't put me to sleep because they said my mouth was to small and it would cut off my breathing with all the tools and 02.. so at the dentist I had a limit on numbing med which I felt a couple teeth being pulled worst pain. And also with the surgeries only so many doses are allowed for numbing. I had to get my gums sliced to get bone inside gum. But I really had a good run with tops and bottoms that clipped in. I am wondering if there are authorizations allowed for people to have the screw ins covered and paid by insurance. Beings I have slot of guy issues, I can't eat anything with gluten. Celiac disease. Then diroticilitis. IBS and Crohn's and colitis. So I already had a hard diet. Now I can hardly eat any food without having to smash it all up. Make it soft. But even now I wear my tops and they cut my bottom gums. Then I can't eat because I have sores all over bottom gums. I've lost 66 pounds between no nutrients with my gut diseases and only a soft limited diet because I get cuts all over.
Then this is a bad problem, the furthest gum in the very back of mouth. My jaw bone sticks up so high and at times breaks through to skin, they are so painfully I can't even let soft stuff touch. And my denture on one side ribs it and then I get abseses. They told me they won't touch these gums because the bone controls the tougue and speech. Is there anything I can do is there maybe some rubber shield I can get to protect them. Because I can't even brush it. It's a toothache that's like phantom. But I never had teeth there. I did have my wisdom 4 teeth removed! So that was on the end why can't they just do something to alleviate the painfully back of mouth all the time
I also have to use children's toothpaste because my mouth gets so dry and the sores burn so bad I also get the cracking in corners and sores. I really think maybe there's an authorization I can get beings my mouth will never stop forming differently because imm starving half the time. I don't get nutrients needed from food I can't eat because I can't chew. I need about 4 pints of blood every new season. And I'm weak and then I swell up all over. I either will have diarreaha so bad I can't leave toilet. Or constipation so bad it takes 2 days to empty out. It's ungodly huge. Which my GI Dr. Said my intestines are constricted from not having the correct nutrients. Is there any diagnosed I could maybe be authorized to get snaps. I'm tired of being hungry and chocking and I am starting to lose facial looks to a look of someone who doesn't care about there mouth.
Please help. My email is darlenehorn47@gmail.com and darleennannettehorn@gmail.com or 202-904-6880
Emergency # 202-904-6898. I will travel, I don't have good credit or I would have this already done.
Thankyou
Darlene Nanette Horn
Excellent video with a great narration.Never knew the bone reduction for all on four prosthesis. I have got all my 24 teeth removed and had 6 implants on top jaw.Waiting for the bottom implants to be placed.I am going slow and the Indian Hospital too are doing their best.Hope they give me convex sealing prosthesis for no lisp speech.Thank you Doctor sir.
Thank you. I appreciate the compliment. Since you are still in the middle of treatment, you can talk with your doctor about designing your final upper & lower prostheses with convex surfaces to minimize food and debris entrapment. I wish you the very best with your treatment!
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter 😀
yes
This is helpful information. Thank you for this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Wow, it's a shame that many drs see us only as a profitable patients for them. Not being or giving us all the information and educating us about what we are going to go through when we need this kind of invasive surgeries. Then we grieve over a fail. Thank you Dr for sharing your knowledge and this valuable information. I wish my dr. was this informational like you.
Thanks very much for this invaluable information, I have conventual bridge supported by teeth either side that has failed, the dentist wants me to down the all on 4 route, after watching your video I reiase this would be a mistake on many levels, Information is power, I love RUclips its so educational cheers Dave.
Agreed. Knowledge is power!
Happy to be of help.
Good luck to you on your search.
Very good doctor! Thanks from Brazil 🙏👍
Thank you! You’re very welcome.
After I get mine done that's where going to Brazil 🇧🇷
Is it better to have individual implants instead of all on 4?
THANK YOU for this video.
You’re welcome. 😊
I will be seeing you on 4/27/22 from out-of-town. I hope you can replace multiple teeth which are in scattered parts of the jaw. From experience I've learned that root canals don't last forever. They eventually fail and you have to get implants or dentures. I also hope the price tag for replacing multiple teeth doesn't break the bank.
Looking forward to meeting you.
By any chance do you do any free make over for those who urgently need them done secondary to Dentist neglect Etc. I live in the Philadelphia area I am willing to travel to you. Do you offer this to 1 or 2 patients? Thanks
I am so sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, we already provide about 33% percent complimentary work as part of being fair and ethical. One full mouth case costs us tens of thousands of dollars in overhead and we simply can't absorb those costs. I would be happy to give my my opinion if you can send me a panoramic x-ray. (You can call my office at 214-956-9100 to get the email address to send it to.)
You said that this is not best for lower replacement - then what is best? Thanks for information.
Implant bridges are the best replacement option, if you’re a candidate.
Why they offer all on 4 procedures if they remove the bone
What about all on 6 ???
I have all on 6 top jaw andvall on 4 lower jaw
I am very worried.
OMG!!! How sad, and so tragic for these people!! What a nightmare!!!! Perhaps worse off than before, what a horrific thing to go thru!! Hopefully there is good outcome for these people!!!
I am looking to have work done. Please tell me where can I fine a dentist who can preform the procedure correctly.
Also are you only located in TX?
I’m Dallas, Texas and am happy to see you for a complementary consultation if you are anywhere near me. I’m sure there are others who are capable, somewhere, but I don’t know who, specifically. Hopefully, these videos will at least arm you with information, so as you’re interviewing Prosthodontists, you can ask the right questions and, ultimately find one who can help you. Good luck to you.
Thank you
You’re welcome 😊
What a Godsend. Thank you so much Dr. McFadden for such an informative video. Tomorrow I will have a chat with a dentist regarding implant options. All of four will not be an option for me. Thanks to you I'm much more informed.
You’re welcome, Tonya.
I’m glad you found it helpful.
Good luck with your treatment 😃
I had an all on 4 on (both the upper and lower) about 8 years ago. There was no bone removal and no angular abutments involved. The upper has been completely trouble free but the lower has had repeated mechanical failures of the denture The dentures have been acryllic in all cases. The lower jaw sees much more mechanical impact loading than the upper The denture maker has redesigned the lower several times
and each version is a tad better than the predicicator . Am I overall happy with my one on4s ? It has been a developmental process. The original work was done in Ukraine at a reasonable price.
I wonder why your comment hasn't received a response from the channel owner...hmm
@@Dice-Gambleuntitled broken prosthesis? Letting the patient leave with an acrylic as a permanent solution? Come on
i need a total price for your process or even a close guestimate also the time line so i can work out the affordability and travel plans
I’m happy to advise you, but I really need to see your current condition to do that.
If I can see a recent panoramic X-ray, I’d be happy to do a Zoom consultation with you.
You can send it to Barbara@dentalimplantcenter.com. She will forward it to me and then schedule a zoom consult with you.
Dag12324 question is my question. I have recent CT and panoramic. How can I get a consult. I have scheduled consult 3/8/24 in Denver and now I am very concerned after viewing this presentation. Please advise if you will schedule a consult with me. Thank you.
Very honest
Incredibly honest, Incredibly rare assessment Thank you very much for your frank review Extremely appreciated. On a parting note what is your professional opinion regarding Nanoceramic XircOn Ultra and/or Crystal Ultras with the TriLor Bar prosthesis?
I like it for the lower arch. In males (stronger bite force) and especially grinders I like zirconium on the upper and anything softer (acrylic or nano ceramic) on the lower.
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter Appreciate your professional response very much Your entire educational series is invaluable to anyone who is researching through this maze. BTW would you happen to be an in network member of Delta Dental Insurance?
If you call our office and speak with Staci, my Business Manager, she will be happy to go over insurance coverage with you. 214-956-9100
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter where are you located?
@@fredageiger1250 In Dallas, Texas. Our office info is in the description area below.
Thanks you for your insight regarding all on 4 . Majority of doc's don't give a throughout explanation about these treatments which can lead someone to a devastating situation . You've showed a ( much ) better alternative , 35:08 , Implant bridges . Is that a technique that you've been developing on your own ? Is that similar in a way of 3 on 6 ? Just one more , do you think it's better a 3 on 6 rather an all on 4 if only those options can be done due budget issues ? Thank you .
Yes, I have been developing this since 1999. Similar to 3 0n 6 but we spend a lot more time developing/ maintaining tissue. It is expensive but, hopefully, it's once in a lifetime!
It makes sense . Thank you .
If a patient has no choice is all on 4 still a viable option? Also have you any experience with Dr Omar Lugo?
Every patient has choices.
We do not comment on other dentists.
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter - Sure, but your office LITERALLY offers the all-on-4 treatment sooooo? See the problem here.
I've already commented on the shorter version of this technique and it's very logical approach to tooth loss. This has nothing to do with implants, just the dentists out there who seem to have no grasp of what's healthy for teeth in general. Concave vs convex when it comes to basic dental fillings. Maybe others will have noticed the same issue. How many people who had fillings done decades ago where the filling was carefully shaped to mimic the biting surface of our tooth? Now, in the years since, dentist simply create a concave filling, leaving only the outer edges of our natural tooth to contact the matching tooth above or below. Personal experience is that these tend to fail. Either fracture the enamel or due to shrinkage of poorly installed amalgam... leak. Resulting in decay deep inside the tooth
I had fillings last decades when they were shaped properly, and ones that failed within a couple years when done in this hollow cup shape. Destroying all my back teeth. Is it that easy to graduate dental school without basic common sense skills? Only 2 weeks ago, after having a filling repaired, I noitced at home with a cheap dental mirror that I had small dark spots at the gumline. Even in the tooth my dentist had just repaired. So I asked to have x-rays done. Results? He showed me that all my back teeth had decay below the gumline and would have to be pulled out!!! I'm still reasonably young and have taken excellent care of my teeth. Require fillings as at a very young age because my molars didn't "seal" and my old dentist said it would protect my teeth from decay. And so they did most of my adult life. Until I went to this clinic. It was at this point my new, straight out of college dentist tells me he only has basic dental skills and blames dry mouth for this rapid decay. Over a span of 2 years all this decay happened and would continue unchecked had I not insisted on the x-ray. Wish I had asked sooner. Before it was this bad. All I can do is get a second opinion before, at some point.... Lose all my molars and try to live with front teeth only. I'm disabled and don't have the resources to manage $30,000+ for what it might cost to replace. I'm a poor candidate for the dreaded dentures I so despised the very thought of due to oral Lichen Planus. Something that also began 3 years ago when I began having my dental work done at this clinic. I've been told it's due to a severe reaction to the large amount of amalgam I have in my mouth. Causes painful lesions on my cheeks and a very deep one on my tongue. 4 specialists and I still suffer from this. Was waiting for a patch test before we could move onto replacing the amalgam. I guess it's not going to be an issue once I lose all my back teeth. It's devastating. I've suffered excruciating pain from the lichen planus and now face the rest of my life without back teeth. It's already difficult to eat enough food to sustain me. I'm simply exhausted from fighting to protect my health in a profession that's profit driven. Not to help patients no matter what their financial circumstances.
Yes, dental students of today are woefully unprepared for even basic dental care. All US systems of education have been dumbed down so much that it is SHOCKING that we can't change the course. It sounds like you have severe dry mouth. Dry mouth can be caused by over 1,000 medications. Perhaps you are taking one of them? It sounds like you are headed for dentures... I am sorry to say. Brush and floss like crazy and ask your dentist if you are a candidate for fluoride rinses or fluoride trays. It will help slow the progression of the decay on your good teeth.
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter You'd be correct about the dry mouth but I've been fighting it with products like Theramelts and sugarless gum at all times. The biggest impact, I developed severe Lichen Planus 3 years ago. I've always invested in a good quality electric toothbrush and floss after each meal. Yet the erosive lesions also cause very irritated gums and gum recession. Despite the pain I haven't avoided my dental cleaning routine. My last specialist consult, she tried to express my saliva glands but nothing happened, yet while I have gun or the melts in my mouth it waters nicely. It's just been an excruciating mess. Special toothpaste (non flouride, xylitol, sls-free) as it's the only kind that doesn't burn like acid. Most things burn terribly. I've lost the lining of my mouth and taste buds. Havent tasted food in as many years. I have to stop and brush during meals as any food between my teeth causes pain. Can't say enough about having a good electric toothbrush.
Also been told I'm not a candidate for dentures due to how reactive my mouth is. Seeing several specialists, many compounded oral rinses, high dose steroids...the fight goes on for a cure. Had one implant thats been a success. Best educated diagnosis so far is a reaction to amalgam but have been waiting a year for a patch test which may be pointless once the offending molars are extracted.
It's been a very painful, long and expensive 3 years trying different compounded medications (pricey). 4 specialists and travel. Point being....this news was almost the last straw. I dreamed of maybe one day replacing the 3 other missing teeth with implant. NOT the entire back teeth, top and bottom. Exhausted, and frankly hope waning badly. Difficult enough dealing with the uncertainty of how long this Lichen Planus may go on, but add the loss of teeth as well and I don't want to imagine life ahead. Eating is hard enough now with a large lesion on the right side of my tongue, lacy patchwork of raw tissue on the cheeks. Only began watching RUclips videos like a child looking through the Sears Christmas Wishbook. Seeing what would work best for me, if it were possible
Thanks for your valuable input. Excellent videos explain so clearly why other implant options aren't as safe/healthy. That's all most people want is a healthy mouth= thus a healthy body. Many may not understand why the mouth is the gateway to a long life with less risks for heart, lungs,digestive, neurological disease. One day perhaps a more enlightened society will include dental care as a right to all citizens and save so much money from all those other diseases.
I also had my molars removed for holistic reasons - large amalgam fillings and root canals and asked my dentist to make me a simple flipper retainer ( just like you wear after braces ) and I had him put the missing molars into the retainer ( like they do for a denture) and I have been wearing this comfortably for 25 years with no problems, and I can chew everything .I used to work for an orthodontist and used to make these little flipper retainers and that is how I knew it could be done . This might be a perfect solution for you too instead of dentures or implants .
@@dianebarron8362 That's a unique solution I hadn't heard of. The main issue is the same as what's attacked my teeth to begin with - erosive oral lichen planus. I walk a fine line keeping any bacteria cleaned out of my mouth or else it infects my tongue and cheeks. 5 specialists agreed that placing any device in my mouth. It'll trap bacteria in and around the device.
I sure hate what this is doing to my health and facial appearance. Having lost half my back teeth already and my face is thinning down. Also, once you pull teeth, unless you get bone grafts you lose bone density. This also causes gums to recede further, which puts the other teeth at risk.
Rural dentists are too quick to opt for pulling teeth rather than putting enough effort into saving natural teeth. Frankly I'm exhausted from trying to advocate for myself. How dare I assume I have any knowledge. Mocking "doctor google" when you're actually listening to professionals in the field, who are passing on their own knowledge. Not sure if doctors assume any and all information patients glean is from social media or half baked theories but the condescending attitudes is both insulting and dangerous
Hate to think about the cost…
Anyone who is considering the All-On-4 Dental Implant Procedure needs to seriously watch this video First!
Yeah I think my Dentist was right. Dentures I will have, and I'll just have to give up some foods IF I HAVE to.
Have anyone here heard about clear choice dental in USA and their all on 4 implant? Does this video apply to them or not?
They do All-On-4
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter and? What are your opinions for their all on 4 from clear choice? They are a nation wide brand and has offices all over the USA
Is 3 on 6 a good option instead of all on 4?
I am familiar with that technique. Pros and cons just like every other treatment. In the past three years I have come to believe that on piece is better than multiple pieces (bridges) because we get "cross-arch stabilization", meaning, the the implants on the opposite side are providing stability to their counterparts. Also, screw retention is always better than cement retention. Still, 3-on-6 is far better than All-on-4.
Bone removal of an inch ......scary
I have paid so much money to get all on four implants. They fail! Don't understand why. I've had many surgeries, the lowers have finally taken successfully but the uppers - nope. We've done bone grafts and they haven't helped. Now I am going to go up to the zygomas which is scary but I'm praying it works
I feel like I shouldn't have to pay if I wind up back where I started except now I have nowhere strong or stable to put an implant.
My bone has shrunk so much since we started.
You pay because they did surgery on you. There’s risks involved and sometimes they fail from the offset, but it’s one of the risks.
It could be one of many reasons. Sorry to hear you’ve had such poor results. ☹️
@@josephjimenez2392 - and of course, the patient assumes SOME of the risk, but they shouldn't need to bare 100% of it. If you spend on avg 20K+ for a procedure, the procedure should work or be redone for free or at drastically reduced rates. Maybe having healthcare under an ultra-capitalist system isn't the best (and by maybe, I mean it absolutely fucking isn't).
The greed of capitalism interesting. Didn't you benefit from capitalism. Seems you did. If you could afford this you do well financially. We don't have socialism in this country. The people who deserve sympathy are the ones. Who have no teeth. Can't afford fillings and can't afford to take their kids for dental cleanings. Or can't afford root canals or gum treatments. You don't fit that category. Neither do I because I will have teeth. You chose to do elective procedure. To replace your teeth. You were told about all the risks. The possible added costs if there were complications. So after you were made aware of everything. You signed treatment plan. Had the surgery. Now those complications and added costs are problem. Unfortunately it is too late now. Hopefully there is enough bone that you can have implants or dentures.
In back of my mind I'm thinking some of my top teeth could been save and a bridge done
I'm Terrified 😨 I was wanting this done
There is another option.
A better option. One that doesn’t require all that bone removal AND one that looks more like real teeth (your gums, not pink zirconium gums). And the cost is about the same. We do them every day. Keep searching till you find the right doctor. If you’re in or able to come to Dallas, I’ll be happy to consult with you about it. 214-956-9100
Definitely want to check with your office. I appreciate your taking the time to present and publish this invaluable information. Thank you.
This is really sad. At 34:00 That lady had decently nice teeth and that office she went to destroyed that for her. This is why we all need to pray and really think hard about the decisions that we make. No matter what anyone tells you, study and get all the True knowledge that you can for yourself!
In my line of work I always try to tell people the truth even if it makes them mad or cost the business money. At the end of the day I go to bed knowing that the company still made money and I gave the client the best and most correct answer that I could give them.
Always try to do the right thing even if knowone see you. Even if it may hurt you or make you look bad.
If they leave or get mad then they do. I want to do right by God and everyone.
You are very good person.
I prefer to offer my patients the removable all on X on a bar with MK4 attachments or zest attachments, It offers the benefit of aesthetics, phonetics, and cleansability.
Nice solution for those patients willing to have removable!
Where are you located.
How long is the process from start to finish? My periodontist has been placing bone on each extraction visit. Is this the correct path?
Sometimes, yes.
I had all on 4 implant one month and a half and I was in excruciating pain for 4 days. The fifth day the pain was bearable but never disappeared until now and also I still feel numb on my chin area. Went to see my dr. He was kind of rude with me sayings and asking me why I am feeling pain , if I feel numb how can I feel pain. He was so angry at me as if I would be crazy inventing my pain. The stitches were not dissolving so he took them out together with my temps. I had to go back three times for the buried stitches to be removed that was causing me irritation and sensitivity and pain to my gum tissue. The throbbing pain I feel almost every day running over each implant sometimes is unbearable. Since the first day of surgery, I saw the abutment a little bit exposed and I don't know if that is the problem. My dr. said after he checked it out that my bone is ok, the implant are ok there is no infection that everything is ok. Then , why I feel this throbbing pain all over my the implants? He didn't put back my temps by the way, untill my next appt on March 31s. Was that ok? Do I need an optional treatment to eradicate the pain? I am afraid to keep saying to my dr that I am not feeling well with my implants, that I can't sleep well, that I have to be numbing day and night with Orajel and taking over the counter pain killers with temporary results.
Dr What could be the problem or what is going on with implants? Could you please give me an idea? 😢😢 this throbbing pain it really sucks.
I would be happy to look at a panoramic x-ray. I might be able to advise you from that.
If you would like me to do that, you can email it to:
Barbara@dentalimplantcenter.com, she will forward it to me and I will look at it and email you directly.
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter3 wows!! I got a reply from you!! That is awesome...!! Wow again. I am speechless.. I will send you an email.
Your dentist sounds like mine, he isn't located in Keller, TX is he?
@@jillbutton3274 , No, we are in Dallas.
@@jillbutton3274 No my dear Jill , he is in IL. Sometimes they get frustrated only because they think they are experienced doctrs and people shouldn't feel prolonged periods of pain or more than they suppose. And they can't manage their angryness and get mad at us. 😁 But let me update this situation I went through. Pain is over after almost 3 months. Took ibuprofen 800mg (prescribed) and 500 mg Acetaminophen. Every 4 -6 hrs. Our army defense will always attack any strange material in our bodies. Mine fought fiercely trying to defend me until my white platelet run lower, but I am ok! If you people got implants and you are in pain just let your body adjust and accept little by little to the intruder, if there is not any other compromising issues, like infection, oozing puss from the implants or constantly bleeding of course. Which I didn't have at all by the way, but only pain. Be patient eat healthy try to sleep as much as you can, rest rest, rest, check constantly with your Dr. even though they may hate you 😁 just do it! I know pain drives us crazy!!! Eventually my body finally accepted that strange object inside me...!!!😉😆😆😂 now that I am ok, my Dr. adores me. He is now as sweet as pye😆😆. Dear here dear overthere , sweetheart here sweetheart overthere. Isn't that cool??😎
Good luck everyone !
If you have had this done, is there absolutely no way out at this point ? Tia
Sometimes yes, and sometimes no. There are several factors that need to be considered, which can differ from patient to patient. If you'd like my opinion, I am happy to try and help answer your questions, but will need to see a current panoramic x-ray or current CBCT scan in order to do that. You can send it to : Stephanie@dentalimplantcenter.com. Please let her know we communicated through my RUclips channel, she will get it to me and I will then contact you directly.
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter thanks SO much for your response! I'm going to get my X-rays asap!!
So what do you do? I spent 72k trying to save my teeth now I have none & refuse to wear what they gave me & am broke. I got mine pulled last year & have refused to go to another dentist bc of what they’ve done to me. And I don’t want anyone removing more bone!!
If you can send me a panoramic image and call to set up a Zoom conference we can look at some options.
I hope someone can help you. It sounds like you got taken advantage of.
So sorry for what's happened to you. 🙏🙏🙏💛🌲💛🌲💛🌲💛🌲🙏🙏🙏 from Colorado
The biggest drawback of implant dentistry is ,the fixture is entirely differ from natural teeth roots. It's violated the law of physiology, anatomy and bio-mechanics. and occlusal principle, can not achieve the goal of complete dentistry .
that is functional harmony, anatomic, bio-mechanical harmony. of masticatory system . with the result to have a predictable maintainable stable of each component of masticatory system in natural dentition.
So no matter how implant prostheses designed , lots of late biological and bio-mechanical complications revealed in literatures, severe enough ,ultimately lead to failure.
Master of Prosthodontics, Dr. Dawson said:[Unfortunately, it is unusual dentist graduated today have a workable knowledge of Temporomandibular joint and occlusion]
[there is high confusion of occlusion. ] [ majority of dentists practiced incomplete dentistry. ] they do not know that they do not know.
Lower picture!
I'm in UK but could travel I don't want all on 4
Many of our patients travel to Dallas for their implant treatment. If you’d like to scheduled a zoom consultation, and can get me a copy of a recent panoramic X-ray, I’d be happy to assess your needs and make recommendations. My office contact info is in the description below.
Can this be done in sections. Like front 4 teeth on one day. No dentist wants to even hear about this . I had a dentist say what is it with you people in wanting teeth with no gums . I just wanted want i want and because it’s high priced to be able to do it in a reasonable financial way. Forget that in Jersey the just say here is the 19k bill and we’re gonna knock you out and grind all your bone down . People have no clue how frustrating it is to actually find someone to help and work with you .
Yes, in many cases, it can be done in sections. I’ve done many of them. For instance: Surgery 1: Remove some teeth and if there’s adequate bone in some spaces to place a few of the total implants planned, go ahead and place them, and leave a few select teeth temporarily, to support a fixed temporary bridge, and not use those new implants immediately. Let them heal while the selected remaining teeth support the temporary. Then for surgery 2: remove the remaining teeth, place more implants and use the previously placed implants to support the revised (or new) temporary bridge, while the new ones heal. Then, once all have healed and integrated, get the final bridges. Typically in 3 or 4 sections, depending on whether there have been 6 or 8 implants.
The benefits of this approach are that you don’t have to wear a temporary denture, you don’t have to immediately load the implants when they’re placed, (risking their success) and it allows for proper scalloping (shaping) of the gum tissues for the final teeth. It does involve more visits and work on the dentist’s part, because of the revised or new temporary bridges, but it can be done in many cases. I hope this helps.
A yeast infection in the mouth?!?😮 never heard of such a thing!😮
It’s a real thing! Painful. But luckily, treatable.
Who wouldn’t want a solution which is clearly superior in every way? Unfortunately the reality is that only a small percentage of the population can afford your elegant solutions, so I must ask what is the solution for everyone else who desperately needs a solution but can barely afford even the all on 4 sub par offerings?
A skilled Prosthodontist who cares about outcomes can offer a wide range of good options for patients missing or soon to be missing their teeth. Complete dentures are a lower cost option that the vast majority of patients can afford. Unfortunately, the average dentist skips at least two important steps in making complete dentures whereby most patients have limited success or failure using them. One step up from complete dentures is also much less expensive are over dentures (snap-on). With as few as two dental implants, dentures can be stabilized and very functional.
You do what my husband and I are doing. Look at your budget get the best denture you can afford. If you are low income individual. Google low income dental care. The city you live in. There should be clinics to call near you. Dentures for my husband and I. We ordered DYI denture kit. Our budget was $100. Took several months of me babysitting. In addition to caring for my husband who has dementia. When you don't have enough money to make ends meet. You get depressed which is something I can understand. The way to be poor and happy. Takes two things. Using the limited resources you have. Making them work and enjoying the results.
We all have to be resourceful throughout our lives. I enjoyed reading this!!
That is very kind of you.
I have no hope at all...but only myself to blame.
That is so sad. Medicine changes for the better every day. Find a solution!
There is still hope. If this procedure didn't work. Maybe someone else can do few implants. Or if you are afraid to do that you could do denture. Don't give up.
Someone in bio technology figure out another way to help.
I can’t afford ANY of these treatments :(
is this video still relevant today in 2023? I'm contemplating implants.
Yes, very relevant.
@@mcfaddendentalimplantcenter thank you
@robert jerge
Do everything possible to keep your own teeth
So "All On 6" then
No. Not All-on-6. That’s Still bone reduction and angled abutments.
lol
I've been saving up for all on four but now watching this video everything seems so negative even when one the person in the comments said what about all on 6 in this doctor here is saying no all on 6 it's a bad choice so what the hell do you do I know a plate denture is a bad choice
The answer to your question is:
You do implant bridges.
I’ve got several videos on this topic if you’d like to learn more about them. Just click on my name under this video and it’ll take you to my channel. From there, you can scroll through all of my videos and find those on the topic of implant bridges.
This is a big decision, so you are wise to take time and do your research. Best of luck to you.
When the BS Drapes are pulled back the worlds a brighter place, 🙏
I found this video to be misleading. The fact that this "doctor" says the all on 4 are recommended for everyone is false. Most people who get this procedure are very happy with it. The first pictures of the restoration looked altered. Very yellow compared to the real thing. Compared to dentures and bridges which will need to be replaced someday, all on 4 is just as cost effective. I think this presentation was mostly one sided and biased. Also, if there were this many problems with all on 4 don't you think there would be a ton of lawsuits and people out there dissing all on 4? The only videos I see dissing all on 4 are doctors pushing their alternative products. Sound familiar?
Time will prove one of us correct. There are legal reasons that make it very difficult to sue dentists. Would you have All-on-4 in your mouth?
Ok you have shown the negatives ! Can you now do a positive video because there is positives for sone people
Part II of this series is called: "Alternatives To All-On 4, Part 2 THE SUCCESSES".
Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/KiVlEVxXnk0/видео.html
Unfortunately, most Dental doctors by using this dental implant technology, want to be a rich man in three days. According to doctor McFadden this procedure of All-on 4 is more faster than bridge dentures. So that, most Dental Doctors work on more than three patients in a single day, and they do not care about the patient economical situation. They are not interested at all in helping any person, who are confronting problems to eat, and don.t have enough money. this is our present world.
Sp is this based on all, al on 4 treatments or is this just horror stories from butcher dentist that have no idea on what they are doing.
Even the better outcomes are significantly compromised. Bone is gone forever, prostheses are bulky and uncleansable.
@@davidmcfadden7927 not from the people I have spoken to. There is a FB page of people that have had all on 4 for over 2 years they help people understand the process. This is in Australia maybe techniques are more professional over here. My research on FB and RUclips has shown me that more complaints come from usa mexico turkey and other places. So where does your research come from.
@@davidmcfadden7927 apologies sir I have just google your name and wow I am actually looking more into your method of implants. Thank you.