Subscribe to Kyokushinbul - bit.ly/29eMCV0 Taekwondo vs Kyokushin Karate A TKD guy walks in a Kyokushin dojo and challenged the instructor into a sparring session.
Respect for the teacher here. He held back the entire time. No unnecessary movement, great balance. He could have followed up and hurt the opponent. Instead, he pulled back , making his point. Nice form on the low kicks. Self-control is sometimes hardest to achieve.
yh he is clearly an actual practitioner vs someone who very clearly is not a proper TKD practitioner, hate to break it to you; of course this channel isn't biased at all either
I took learned Kyokushin from my friend who was a third degree black belt. He offered Karate training and he taught me a mix of Kyokushin and Goju-ryu. He said that due to the fact I learned kickboxing before he figured karate was the better way. So he taught me as much as he knew. For 5 years I trained with him and I can see the difference. TKD is good though. I mean I met guys who are very skilled in the art and are good enough to beat my friend and me. But that guy in the video in the red shirt was no good. His footwork and timing was not even on point. The Kyokushin guy was just holding back to see if this guy had any of it in him.
They wear kicks to the face and knees to the face. Logic - Punches to the face are hard to avoid and quick to deal damage. If you get kicked in the face you kind of deserve to get kicked in the face.
I studied TKD and Kyokushin, and loved what both styles have given me. That challenger was not TKD, at all. Further, that Sensei was being kind. My comment is not a knock on TKD in any sense, but a compliment to the control the Sensei demonstrated against an opponent who was definitely ill prepared for sparring aggressive strikers like you see in Kyokushin on the regular.
I agree, I studied both before going on to Muay Thai and finally back to Taekwondo to keep myself limber. Both Karate and Taekwondo gave me something special, my only regret is the years wasted through the slow grading process but now my son is being brought through them at a faster pace
Totalmente de acuerdo. El Sensei mantuvo el espiritu deportivo para permitir que su oponente pruebe sus habilidades sin salir seriamemte (e innecesariamente) lastimado. Ossu!!!
That just looks like some guy that watched a few movies and might be good at dancing and kicking, but he's not a trained martial artist. Too many Rooky mistakes. Arms are all over the place got no idea of how to move etc
@@ClickClickDirt You obviously haven't been into many average suburban local dojo's and seen what goes on during sparring. There are some really skillful guys but they are by far the minority. In fact I would say this guy is better than most of the people you find in those places. Depends what you mean by trained I suppose. Look at your average guy that has gone in twice a week for a couple of years. Some of these people spend most of their time marching up and down the hall kicking and punching the air in time with each other.
giotispaok21 no it's not it's pretty brutal on your body sure it lacks defense and hand attacks to the head but no style or system is perfect really. Even mma as effective as it is has its limitations because it's still ultimately bound by rules and empty hand combat. Muay Thai lacks evasive defense which is going to dangerous if you get in a street fight with someone bigger and a lot more powerful than you. Boxing only focuses on punches. Bjj has turned into a strictly grappling sport that man bun potheads do while fried. Watered down Krav Maga that is taught to civilians has its limits too.
@@thedarkknight646 Whatever you say i was a tae kwon do athlete from 1984 and i tell you its useless kyokhusins roots comes from taekyon also never in mma or K1 history kyokhusin was strong enough its a japanese bullshit martial art.To be a complete fighter you must know box wrestle muay thai and tae kwon do.Tae kwon do only for kicks otherwise its useless like kyokhusin
giotispaok21 wrong to be a complete martial artist you need to know how to use and defend against weapons as well. None of those teaches you how to deal with that. In a real situation people have guns knives and buddies willing to cheap shot you unexpectedly. I should know I've trained in all that you have mentioned at some point in my life long enough to know that they don't focus on situations where weapons get involved. Also tell that to Bas Rutten
@@giotispaok2167 though i think you're a troll, but meh, legends come from kyokushin in K1, and during k1 there was a lot of trading between Muay Thai and Kyokushin. They were learning a lot from each other and now today, its as if Kyokushin and Muay Thai aren't really as different unless you practice the traditional styles of both arts.
I can tell you as a student of Kyokushin and Goju Kai, Takwando has no chance with a conditioned fighter. We go through a lot of high impact body conditioning. Without pain you will learn nothing but arrogance.
@Ricardo what i see, is that is actually you, who -as many - are showing off and provoking. It's a basic that since white belt TKD teaches their students not to provoque others, that is why the suppossed TKD fighter is not who the video claims. Also the uniform wore by the ''TKD guy'' is not neither WT (Olympic assosiatio) or ITF (the original style from 1966). That being said, the fact that the name of the channel is '' kyokushin bul '', tells you something. That is why, the man in the video is not a ''TKD guy'' - the way the call him is way too negative and already shows the intention of the video, promoting it's art-. TKD is widely the most practised marial art with around 80 millon people - for you to imagine, my country has 40 millon ihhabitants. TKD can be made under rules of combat, as a conditioning sport, but is intended for self defense and is very simple: first, as i said, avoid combat by peaceful solutions - if you can't hit once and run. By the way real self defense situation is not flips or tricks like many wrong WT led to believe, nor is the UFC, wrestling with greasy guys for money. Self defense is another thing, it's something violent and quick, and that is why you should train for.
@Ricardo Well, if TKD is not effective then 80 million people are stupid or what. Instead, on the other hand, all martial arts who - coincidently - say that are better, even at the extent of critizing TKD, and promote some sort of agressiveness, are not the most practised not even in their country of origin, like BJJ -which is not the most popular in Brazil nor in the US - or in this case Muay Thai in Thailand - as you bring it to discussion. The so called effectiveness of them, is either not so much, or then you are very bad advertising them. Also, what is to know how to fight? some frontal guard? how to kick the shins hard? to enter in a box ring once a week and stand quite a lot of pain to show something? let me tell you that in present day, martial arts should be not for showing off, but for self defense. It has nothing to do with staring at the other doing fancy footwork, or being both in a cage or in a ring. Self defense is quick, lethal, for instance striking to vital points as to be available to run. And in TKD self defense is that: 1) first, common sense, you are a regular guy who practises martial arts, who are not an expert, so first avoid combat by peaceful solutions, 2) if you can't, hit hard and hit once, avoiding unnecesary footwork - this in not UFC -, 3) run, you are not to prove anything. In TKD class a good teacher will tell you this, no more no less. That is why you are saying it doesn't work to fight, precisely. Also i too knew Muay Thai beginners, or even who after doing TKD a few months passes to Muay Thai because they are promised to be taken to tournaments after 3-4-5 months of classes. What happens next is that they drop, since you promote to strenghten by receiving painful lessons such as being a human bag, in fact almost no technique at all, just hit, hit ,hit, but for a beginner it doesn't work 90% of them. Yes, i believe you have to be tough. It takes longer to take a student to a tournament; in TKD is at least 1 year or even more, i guarantee you, whoever you are, in TKD you are out of breath after 2 minutes of combat, specially with the equipment that is wore. After the combat, you take it off and you feel as heavy as air, even if you weight 80 kg. Not may practitioners of other martial arts who try TKD class, and not to stop to breath or hidrate.
@@reeeeee987 They're likely sparring under "no head punches", which is common at MA tournaments. Kicks are usually easy enough to see coming that head kicks are allowed, but no punches.
I Trained up to First Degree Black Belt in The International Taekwondo association.I have not trained for many years but at the age of 70 i have just joined a Kyokushin Dojo and really enjoying the training.
A challenge itself is not disrespectful. It depends on how you do it and the terms and venue, like maybe it's not the best idea to fight in front of the guys students. On the other hand the sensei probably agreed to these terms. But it's always good to test yourself against other experts.
@@keeran9306 It just seems like Dojo storming to me, and I don't condone that unless both are being rude, but even then, it just turns into a douche bag fight
@@hypnoticskull6342 We don't exactly have the context. Maybe it was storming. Maybe it was respectfully pre arranged. Point is the challenge itself isn't bad at all if you do it right.
I love it when they bounce around. A Jr TKD Black belt challenged me to a friendly sparring match at work. He started by tapping his front foot getting ready for a kick he would never deliver. I swept his foot across his body about waist high, followed by his other foot. Then came the fall to the concrete. He always made fun of Judo. Didn't even need my hands. LOL
it exists in TKD and it's called centre of gravity. The guy in the video is either a bad TKD practitioner or is not a TKD practitioner at all, i would say the latter.
I practice taekwondo but this guy does not represent us- It's firstly disrespectful to challenge a sensei in his own dojo, of course unless it's in respect and to learn from the sparring session instead of trying to prove something Also his form wasn't necessarily the greatest, the karate practitioner totally outmatched him for sure. My only issue with kyokushin is just that they train not to punch in the face, so (in some cases, not all) these guys are really well conditioned in their bodies, but don't know how to take a punch to the face Anyways enough of my rant, great video 😁
@MY-tradeplan true but unfortunately face punches are to be expected at some point. Even for boxers with good headmovement, but what differienciates them is that they dont panic when they get hit in the face, they keep on dodging I recall seeing a video of a muay thai practicioner who threw a hook at the kyokushin to the face. That wasnt a knockout punch, but the kyokushin guy falls down regarless because his brain is hardwired to stop fighting once a kick or punch connects to their head. (I found it ruclips.net/video/DMr_lQiMVDM/видео.html at 2:30 mark of the video is where the knockout punch occurs)
Darion Collins those things are useless if you cant fight, if you think that mártial artes are all about morality, then do something else, like yoga...
Manuel Alzate máster choki motobu said that a useless mártial artis a dangerous thing... If you hide in the morality, then your mártial art is useless...
Zektor12 I don't mean that. Only that showing a little bit of respect for your oponent Isn't that hard. We are not childs. If a person can't stand a fight, either with morality or without it then must quit. Simply as that
he has no form, no footwork, no stance, his switches are totally predictable, his wave is nonexistent, his sidekick is telegraphed, he hops and stands in a way that makes it impossible to counterkick properly. this is a sad sad practitioner here.
I am an instructor in what I call United Kyokushin Taekwondo. I have a 5Th Dan in Taekwondo from Kukkiwon ( World Taekwondo Federation ) 3rd Dan Kyokushin Kai Karate. Both arts have their strengths & weaknesses & I try combine their strengths. I can assure you this “Taekwondo chap” is poor quality for 2 reasons... 1: ¿ If it’s true he challenged a Sensei in his own Dojang/Dojo he knows nothing about respect, hence a low quality person. 2: His Taekwondo techniques were dreadful ( he should have ‘Machine Gun kicked’ i.e. kicking & kicking & kicking without let up not allowing the opponent to take a breath ) hence, a poor practitioner. OSU 🥋😊
Props. Yeah imma purple belt and I watch my sensei closely. My techniques are not as finesse as others out there but even I could tell that this guy needed some assistance 💀
@@scottlally8374 um people pretty much call me an MMA fighter cuz thats what I do. I I have a brown belt in karate that's where I started also competed and won multiple Grand championships. I trained in Taekwondo but never competed. I switch to MMA so basically I have six years of muay Thai training (and also competed in) my boxing is good. And also 6 years of bjj and wrestling ( my preference is Greco-Roman wrestling). Y'all people act surprised that people have trained in more than one discipline of martial arts and competed in more than one.
@@ParisLawLess shownds cool like what Bruce Lee said find your way of fighting your own system if you don't mind me asking witch martial art is your favourite to use if I had to choose six fighting styles of martial arts they would be (boxing) (teakwondo) (kylokushin karate) (wrestling) (Brazilian jiu-jitsu) and (muay Thai)
I consider that a compliment to him because you have to adjust your technique to adapt to a situation. I'd like to think even many low ranking TKD fighters realize that in a real fight simply attempting jumping spin kicks without proper application or timing is only going to get you murdered.
Gral. Choi Hong Hi, the creator of ITF (the original TKD association, form 1966, and not the WT who dates from 1973) was in fact Shotokan II° degree. And TKD was meant for self defense, in fact the self defense is easy to explain - do not show off an avoid any problem by finding peaceful solutions, if not, then defend in the necessesary extent as to run. My friend, there are not bad students but bad schools and teachers, if you were taught mostly fancy footwork, i'm afraid you have been misled. By the wat, Olympic TKD - the WT - represent very badly what TKD is and so people get confuse.
@@diegoargibay2287actually the old school tkd might be better at some point t but tkd old school is still kinda bad tho since those stances are open for low kick and u jump up and down it just cost u to lose stamina also most of the tkd kick are fast but not powerful enough to brutal damage and can easily cost u to lose balance most of the kick ended up on the ground
Hate to break it to you bud, but TKD as a whole whether it’s ITF or WTF, IS karate; it’s just “Korean” style karate. Furthermore, Kyokushin and it’s daughter styles (Ashiara & Enshin) are the only “Japanese” style of Karate that has devastating kicks.
Smart Enough low kicks are actually the best thing to do in a fight as unlike high kicks they do not affect ur balance and u can also knock ur opponent to the ground by reapeated low kicks to same spot
Just wanna say, for the taekwondo guy, he needs to remember to put those hands up. Literally he could have had his face punched, anytime during the video
I dont see any hate or disrespect thing here.. probably just a request for a sparring, not a challenge in a rude way. At the beginning I see both of them still discuss while fighting and we dont see the actual context or the end of this vid. The title kinda misleading
He has on TKD gear, but that isn't our stance. He looks a bit more like Jeet Kun Do. The real question is, who walks in to a place and just challenges a master out the blue?? 0:02??
First : this guy didn't understand anything to Taekwondo and martial arts in general. Also, his taekwondo skills are terrible. He's fast, but his kicks don't have any power. He'll never be able to hurt someone with this. It's completely stupid to challenge someone who practice a martial art you never trained to fight against and obviously, he didn't ever fight in a full contact fight. Once the kyokushin master hit him with a low kick, you can see that the taekwondo guy lost his self confidence and that he is scared of the karate master. Also you can see that it's the first time he's hitten by a low kick... Conclusion : this is probably the worst taekwondo fight i've ever seen
Why Taekwondo and Kyokushin? Both of them are schools of Karate. They originated from the same Karate school, Shotokan Karate. Taekwondo is just a Shotokan Karate of Korean style.
As a Tkd fighter, if you insist on using tkd alone you need to adjust according to the opponent and stick to the basics. Tkd is known for its kicking efficiency, range, agility, stamina and speed. You won't win a game of strength and power. Utilize feints, foot work, stepping, ware out your opponent and break his rhythm and explode at his jaw or ribs.
Good sparring match. I’m giving it to the karate guy. You can tell if you watch that the TKD guy is very good at the sport of TKD, but he’s not great at the fighting part of it. His kicks are fast, but he’s not turning over his hip, and what should be a nice round kick is turning into upward crescent kicks, which get to the target quickly but lack power. Karate guy was solid though. Nice based stance, good defense, and he did good at trapping him in that corner and throwing some good punches.
It's not about the discipline. The TKD fighter looks average, while Kyokushin fighter looks more experienced. His black belt is not for show. I can tell from the stance and how each attack executed. I think Kyokushin fighter held back.
The guy clearly ain't a tkd player. First of all, that is not a tkd stance. We also don't move like that. We don't practice low kicks and sweeps very often but we practice them for self defense. Also for the people who say tkd isn't effective, just WTF tkd or sport tkd isn't as effective but will work of used right, but the traditional tkd or ITF tkd really is devastating.
Gian Calub He used only a couple TKD techniques. His stance looked more JKD, MMA. I agree. He wasn't as "bad" as people think. The trouble was he fought a legitimate martial artist who knew how to use structure, stance and balance. It is fortunate for the challenger that this sensei had no desire to hurt him. He put in just enough power for the challenger to feel the effect, without following up or hitting vulnerable spots. Then he would back slightly to allow the opponent to respond. I'm impressed.
I learned taekwondo for 8 years, and also learn kyohoshin 4 years, This Video, show real Kyokhushin fighter, but defenetly not real Taekwondo practioners, maybe just a noob, or just a lovers. From the way he moves, the way he kick, all wrong
Karate is superior to TKD in that there is more diversity regarding the variety of styles in karate. Most of the styles of TKD are super similar and it’s pretty hard to find a difference between them (WTF, American, ATA, AAU, Olympic...etc) while karate styles are usually VERY different (Shotokan, Go ji ryu, Kyokushi, Ken-po, Kem-po, Kudo, Ishin ryu, Point Karate...etc)
Karate has a variety of styles for sure. Taekwondo is one of them. All six founding fathers inkl. Choi Hong-Hi were Karate practitioners with no further background (excerpt for Chun Sang-Sup who knew Judo). Some of them learned directly under Tōyama (Shudo-kan) und Funakoshi (Shoto-kan). First draft for the name was Tang Soo Do, way of the empty hand = Karate, which some schools still use and practice in Korea. Most transitioned to a less evident name - taekwondo.
Eeemmmm..... Look the UFC and Talk , el taekwondo está presente en los timings y movimientos y destreza rápida de la UFC mientras que el karate es engorroso y bruto
at this rate i would rather use my punches front kick and fake kicks works like a charm. ive challenge a muay thai practitioner before and it was the hardest and toughest fight i have ever experience. as a taekwondo practitioner always use the effective kicks like front kicks and punches for additional damage always keep your distance.
Sensei Corey McDojang black belts maybe. It's too bad most dojangs are McDojangs. His footwork and his kicks are garbage. He is incredibly inexperienced.
I think you have to admit that for the most part, TKD has been discredited as a legit martial art. Its an activity, maybe fancy gymnastics at this point.....this comming from someone who trained in it for 6 years as a child...Kyokushin and Enshin are others like it are the true martial arts now
Maybe if mr, taekwondo would put LESS energy into bouncing around and more intil SLIDE advancing into his attacks to focus on making them faster, sharper, more surprising..he would stand a better chance of landing a strike. -_-. CHrist, I'm taekwondo basic-level student and even I understand this from experience.
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Respect for the teacher here. He held back the entire time. No unnecessary movement, great balance. He could have followed up and hurt the opponent. Instead, he pulled back , making his point. Nice form on the low kicks. Self-control is sometimes hardest to achieve.
Still kyokushin win (even did not perform full action, intentionally)
Yep, he could have easily head kick KO'ed him. KK is not just about low kicks.
yh he is clearly an actual practitioner vs someone who very clearly is not a proper TKD practitioner, hate to break it to you; of course this channel isn't biased at all either
If that sensei give his 100 boy oh boy tis tkd guy will have his best massage of his life🤣🤣
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Kyokushin fighter : tank class in video game.
Tank/Fighter hybrid you could say
Im u r 200th like
@@k.ayyappan3780 congratulation good sir
@@haveagudday8068 couldnt agree more
A tank wouldn't hot that hard
Walking in off the street and challenging the instructor!? A bold strategy, Cotton....
I took learned Kyokushin from my friend who was a third degree black belt. He offered Karate training and he taught me a mix of Kyokushin and Goju-ryu. He said that due to the fact I learned kickboxing before he figured karate was the better way. So he taught me as much as he knew.
For 5 years I trained with him and I can see the difference. TKD is good though. I mean I met guys who are very skilled in the art and are good enough to beat my friend and me. But that guy in the video in the red shirt was no good. His footwork and timing was not even on point. The Kyokushin guy was just holding back to see if this guy had any of it in him.
That guy very stupid desision
i know that kyokushin style fighters can take alot of kicks and punches but never touch their face
They wear kicks to the face and knees to the face.
Logic - Punches to the face are hard to avoid and quick to deal damage.
If you get kicked in the face you kind of deserve to get kicked in the face.
I studied TKD and Kyokushin, and loved what both styles have given me. That challenger was not TKD, at all. Further, that Sensei was being kind. My comment is not a knock on TKD in any sense, but a compliment to the control the Sensei demonstrated against an opponent who was definitely ill prepared for sparring aggressive strikers like you see in Kyokushin on the regular.
I agree, I studied both before going on to Muay Thai and finally back to Taekwondo to keep myself limber. Both Karate and Taekwondo gave me something special, my only regret is the years wasted through the slow grading process but now my son is being brought through them at a faster pace
Totalmente de acuerdo. El Sensei mantuvo el espiritu deportivo para permitir que su oponente pruebe sus habilidades sin salir seriamemte (e innecesariamente) lastimado.
Ossu!!!
That just looks like some guy that watched a few movies and might be good at dancing and kicking, but he's not a trained martial artist. Too many Rooky mistakes. Arms are all over the place got no idea of how to move etc
@@ClickClickDirt You obviously haven't been into many average suburban local dojo's and seen what goes on during sparring. There are some really skillful guys but they are by far the minority. In fact I would say this guy is better than most of the people you find in those places. Depends what you mean by trained I suppose. Look at your average guy that has gone in twice a week for a couple of years. Some of these people spend most of their time marching up and down the hall kicking and punching the air in time with each other.
Yeah it's even not look like a TKD stance at all 😂 his kick kinda ackward, he even didn't use his foot like a proper TKD athletes or pupils
Ok its pretty stupid to challange a kyochinkai warrior... But man you must have a death wish to challange a instructor in his own dojo
Gerrit Von Volkswagen thats what your suposed to do when your ready to put other arts to the test look it up
giotispaok21 no it's not it's pretty brutal on your body sure it lacks defense and hand attacks to the head but no style or system is perfect really. Even mma as effective as it is has its limitations because it's still ultimately bound by rules and empty hand combat. Muay Thai lacks evasive defense which is going to dangerous if you get in a street fight with someone bigger and a lot more powerful than you. Boxing only focuses on punches. Bjj has turned into a strictly grappling sport that man bun potheads do while fried. Watered down Krav Maga that is taught to civilians has its limits too.
@@thedarkknight646 Whatever you say i was a tae kwon do athlete from 1984 and i tell you its useless kyokhusins roots comes from taekyon also never in mma or K1 history kyokhusin was strong enough its a japanese bullshit martial art.To be a complete fighter you must know box wrestle muay thai and tae kwon do.Tae kwon do only for kicks otherwise its useless like kyokhusin
giotispaok21 wrong to be a complete martial artist you need to know how to use and defend against weapons as well. None of those teaches you how to deal with that. In a real situation people have guns knives and buddies willing to cheap shot you unexpectedly. I should know I've trained in all that you have mentioned at some point in my life long enough to know that they don't focus on situations where weapons get involved. Also tell that to Bas Rutten
@@giotispaok2167 though i think you're a troll, but meh, legends come from kyokushin in K1, and during k1 there was a lot of trading between Muay Thai and Kyokushin. They were learning a lot from each other and now today, its as if Kyokushin and Muay Thai aren't really as different unless you practice the traditional styles of both arts.
I can tell you as a student of Kyokushin and Goju Kai, Takwando has no chance with a conditioned fighter. We go through a lot of high impact body conditioning. Without pain you will learn nothing but arrogance.
Wish y'all could learn how to protect your head as well
@Ricardo what i see, is that is actually you, who -as many - are showing off and provoking. It's a basic that since white belt TKD teaches their students not to provoque others, that is why the suppossed TKD fighter is not who the video claims. Also the uniform wore by the ''TKD guy'' is not neither WT (Olympic assosiatio) or ITF (the original style from 1966). That being said, the fact that the name of the channel is '' kyokushin bul '', tells you something. That is why, the man in the video is not a ''TKD guy'' - the way the call him is way too negative and already shows the intention of the video, promoting it's art-. TKD is widely the most practised marial art with around 80 millon people - for you to imagine, my country has 40 millon ihhabitants.
TKD can be made under rules of combat, as a conditioning sport, but is intended for self defense and is very simple: first, as i said, avoid combat by peaceful solutions - if you can't hit once and run. By the way real self defense situation is not flips or tricks like many wrong WT led to believe, nor is the UFC, wrestling with greasy guys for money. Self defense is another thing, it's something violent and quick, and that is why you should train for.
@Ricardo Well, if TKD is not effective then 80 million people are stupid or what. Instead, on the other hand, all martial arts who - coincidently - say that are better, even at the extent of critizing TKD, and promote some sort of agressiveness, are not the most practised not even in their country of origin, like BJJ -which is not the most popular in Brazil nor in the US - or in this case Muay Thai in Thailand - as you bring it to discussion. The so called effectiveness of them, is either not so much, or then you are very bad advertising them. Also, what is to know how to fight? some frontal guard? how to kick the shins hard? to enter in a box ring once a week and stand quite a lot of pain to show something? let me tell you that in present day, martial arts should be not for showing off, but for self defense. It has nothing to do with staring at the other doing fancy footwork, or being both in a cage or in a ring. Self defense is quick, lethal, for instance striking to vital points as to be available to run. And in TKD self defense is that: 1) first, common sense, you are a regular guy who practises martial arts, who are not an expert, so first avoid combat by peaceful solutions, 2) if you can't, hit hard and hit once, avoiding unnecesary footwork - this in not UFC -, 3) run, you are not to prove anything. In TKD class a good teacher will tell you this, no more no less. That is why you are saying it doesn't work to fight, precisely.
Also i too knew Muay Thai beginners, or even who after doing TKD a few months passes to Muay Thai because they are promised to be taken to tournaments after 3-4-5 months of classes. What happens next is that they drop, since you promote to strenghten by receiving painful lessons such as being a human bag, in fact almost no technique at all, just hit, hit ,hit, but for a beginner it doesn't work 90% of them. Yes, i believe you have to be tough. It takes longer to take a student to a tournament; in TKD is at least 1 year or even more, i guarantee you, whoever you are, in TKD you are out of breath after 2 minutes of combat, specially with the equipment that is wore. After the combat, you take it off and you feel as heavy as air, even if you weight 80 kg. Not may practitioners of other martial arts who try TKD class, and not to stop to breath or hidrate.
@@reeeeee987 They're likely sparring under "no head punches", which is common at MA tournaments. Kicks are usually easy enough to see coming that head kicks are allowed, but no punches.
Não é TKD e jetkunido
Damn Khyukhusin is incredibly deadly at close range !
and I am a practitioner 😏
also I am so proud of zhat martila art, it is so entertaining
It is.
I Trained up to First Degree Black Belt in The International Taekwondo association.I have not trained for many years but at the age of 70 i have just joined a Kyokushin Dojo and really enjoying the training.
Oss! You have a great warrior spirit to still train even at 70 (73-74 today)!
"RESPECT"
You rock #lifegoals
El entrenamiento varía depende de la escuela y no del arte marcial en si
As a Taekwondo student, I apologize for this guy rudely challenging your sensei.
The Kyokushin guy was VERY gentle with the Tae Kwon Do guy. He knew that the TKD guy was way over his head. That's why he stood most of the time.
A challenge itself is not disrespectful. It depends on how you do it and the terms and venue, like maybe it's not the best idea to fight in front of the guys students. On the other hand the sensei probably agreed to these terms. But it's always good to test yourself against other experts.
@@keeran9306
It just seems like Dojo storming to me, and I don't condone that unless both are being rude, but even then, it just turns into a douche bag fight
@@hypnoticskull6342 We don't exactly have the context. Maybe it was storming. Maybe it was respectfully pre arranged. Point is the challenge itself isn't bad at all if you do it right.
@@keeran9306
The description made it sound rude. I hope it wasn't
Kyokushin Warriors Are Powerful Fighters
Osu!
You right
Osu!
Powerful but lack fighting skills in short they are dull fighters in my view
@@lizwezulu3842 they do need more sparing practice
OSU from Italy
I love it when they bounce around. A Jr TKD Black belt challenged me to a friendly sparring match at work. He started by tapping his front foot getting ready for a kick he would never deliver. I swept his foot across his body about waist high, followed by his other foot. Then came the fall to the concrete. He always made fun of Judo. Didn't even need my hands. LOL
Kyokushin Rules... 🔥🔥👊💪😎
Maintaining a strong and stable center of mass may not be an eye candy but it does have an advantage over the opposite kind in a real fight.
it exists in TKD and it's called centre of gravity. The guy in the video is either a bad TKD practitioner or is not a TKD practitioner at all, i would say the latter.
I practice taekwondo but this guy does not represent us-
It's firstly disrespectful to challenge a sensei in his own dojo, of course unless it's in respect and to learn from the sparring session instead of trying to prove something
Also his form wasn't necessarily the greatest, the karate practitioner totally outmatched him for sure. My only issue with kyokushin is just that they train not to punch in the face, so (in some cases, not all) these guys are really well conditioned in their bodies, but don't know how to take a punch to the face
Anyways enough of my rant, great video 😁
The condition their limbs, and not their face.
@MY-tradeplan true but unfortunately face punches are to be expected at some point. Even for boxers with good headmovement, but what differienciates them is that they dont panic when they get hit in the face, they keep on dodging
I recall seeing a video of a muay thai practicioner who threw a hook at the kyokushin to the face. That wasnt a knockout punch, but the kyokushin guy falls down regarless because his brain is hardwired to stop fighting once a kick or punch connects to their head.
(I found it ruclips.net/video/DMr_lQiMVDM/видео.html at 2:30 mark of the video is where the knockout punch occurs)
Kyokushin + Judo/BJJ= complete fighter.
More like Kudo + bjj
No, still have some disadvantage with head punch, maybe it fits perfect if muaythai + BJJ
@@olik1228 true but muay thai arent great at taking body shots and their kicks are mostly low kicks at full power with 0 control.
@@redpilljujitsu9068 hahaha maybe we can learn that 3 method and combine 😁
@@olik1228 the BEST IS boxing , and taekwondo, BJJ too and kali and Kung fú
thats the power of gedan mawashi geri (low kick). osu
osu!
Osu
Osu!!
Ossu!!!
Low King!
The TKD guy obviously trained at a mcdojo. TKD is all about respect and intergrity
Darion Collins those things are useless if you cant fight, if you think that mártial artes are all about morality, then do something else, like yoga...
Manuel Alzate máster choki motobu said that a useless mártial artis a dangerous thing... If you hide in the morality, then your mártial art is useless...
Zektor12 I don't mean that. Only that showing a little bit of respect for your oponent Isn't that hard. We are not childs. If a person can't stand a fight, either with morality or without it then must quit. Simply as that
Its arrogant to judge all Tae Kwon Do athletes based off of a handful of fighters.
he has no form, no footwork, no stance, his switches are totally predictable, his wave is nonexistent, his sidekick is telegraphed, he hops and stands in a way that makes it impossible to counterkick properly. this is a sad sad practitioner here.
Teakwondo: *Leg Kick*
0 Damage
Kyokushin HP 100
kyokushin guy alwayd fucks up your legs
I am an instructor in what I call
United Kyokushin Taekwondo.
I have a 5Th Dan in Taekwondo from Kukkiwon ( World Taekwondo Federation ) 3rd Dan Kyokushin Kai Karate.
Both arts have their strengths & weaknesses & I try combine their strengths.
I can assure you this “Taekwondo chap” is poor quality for 2 reasons...
1: ¿ If it’s true he challenged a Sensei in his own Dojang/Dojo he knows nothing about respect, hence a low quality person.
2: His Taekwondo techniques were dreadful ( he should have ‘Machine Gun kicked’ i.e. kicking & kicking & kicking without let up not allowing the opponent to take a breath ) hence, a poor practitioner.
OSU 🥋😊
Props. Yeah imma purple belt and I watch my sensei closely. My techniques are not as finesse as others out there but even I could tell that this guy needed some assistance 💀
Being that I trained in both kyokushin karate and Taekwondo I can say that this dude is not at all using tkd. His style looks funny as fuck.
@Shadow Warrior pop pooopy
So your a tkd kyokushin fighter
@@scottlally8374 um people pretty much call me an MMA fighter cuz thats what I do. I I have a brown belt in karate that's where I started also competed and won multiple Grand championships. I trained in Taekwondo but never competed. I switch to MMA so basically I have six years of muay Thai training (and also competed in) my boxing is good. And also 6 years of bjj and wrestling ( my preference is Greco-Roman wrestling). Y'all people act surprised that people have trained in more than one discipline of martial arts and competed in more than one.
@@ParisLawLess shownds cool like what Bruce Lee said find your way of fighting your own system if you don't mind me asking witch martial art is your favourite to use if I had to choose six fighting styles of martial arts they would be (boxing) (teakwondo) (kylokushin karate) (wrestling) (Brazilian jiu-jitsu) and (muay Thai)
I consider that a compliment to him because you have to adjust your technique to adapt to a situation. I'd like to think even many low ranking TKD fighters realize that in a real fight simply attempting jumping spin kicks without proper application or timing is only going to get you murdered.
I was trained in TKD discipline. We do a lot of awesome kick maneuvers. However, they are not that fatal or deadly if compared to those of Karate's.
Gral. Choi Hong Hi, the creator of ITF (the original TKD association, form 1966, and not the WT who dates from 1973) was in fact Shotokan II° degree. And TKD was meant for self defense, in fact the self defense is easy to explain - do not show off an avoid any problem by finding peaceful solutions, if not, then defend in the necessesary extent as to run. My friend, there are not bad students but bad schools and teachers, if you were taught mostly fancy footwork, i'm afraid you have been misled. By the wat, Olympic TKD - the WT - represent very badly what TKD is and so people get confuse.
If you're well trained in TKD you are the best at kicking, period. Can't vouch for everyone of course
@@diegoargibay2287actually the old school tkd might be better at some point t but tkd old school is still kinda bad tho since those stances are open for low kick and u jump up and down it just cost u to lose stamina also most of the tkd kick are fast but not powerful enough to brutal damage and can easily cost u to lose balance most of the kick ended up on the ground
Hate to break it to you bud, but TKD as a whole whether it’s ITF or WTF, IS karate; it’s just “Korean” style karate. Furthermore, Kyokushin and it’s daughter styles (Ashiara & Enshin) are the only “Japanese” style of Karate that has devastating kicks.
@@OniMishima glad to know this. Thanks.
Kyokushin really focuses on the low kicks and punches. Especially the low kicks.
Smart Enough low kicks are actually the best thing to do in a fight as unlike high kicks they do not affect ur balance and u can also knock ur opponent to the ground by reapeated low kicks to same spot
@@hitansupatra6686 I'd say a well timed teep (front push kick) would be the best for a fight situation. Push them over and get out of there.
Kyokushin chap patiently stalking with complete economy of movement, brilliant to watch 👍
I love how the TKD guy really tried to low kick back in the end as if thats gonna do anything lmao
TKD was like: Let me use my spinning kicks to knock this guy out...
Karate Be Like: Im not even using my left leg yet.😕😕😕
taekwondo? Wtf are you talking... Look this fighter
1:01....you sure that "taekwondo" guy isn't just some dude that watch a few martial art movies and think he's invincible?
The way he moves, he obviously does have some training, he's just not very good
Hacía tiempo que no ponías un vídeo tan bueno, OSU compañero
No matter which martial art he is doing,his skills are terrible.....
Awkrime Bill Niu比尔牛 it isn’t terrible
@@emmy4537 I agree not all fights are like in the movies his kicks were pretty good but still i dont know why he challenge someone lmao
Just wanna say, for the taekwondo guy, he needs to remember to put those hands up. Literally he could have had his face punched, anytime during the video
Demonstrated the real power of gedan mawashi geri!! 👊💪💪💪💪💪👍✌👊
Not really. One good un should have done the ballarena. That's what I was expecting. Osu. . . . .
That's weird we never grab legs in taekwondo
I guess this was kyokushin rule always great to challenge yourself under different sport rules
no, because in kyokushin, you can't catch your opponent
I respect the tkd guy. He is open minded to spar with other style and trying to learn something.
Las PATADAS del KIOKUSHIN son verdaderos FIERRAZOS, se ve que el de TAE KWON DO, las pudo sentir y muy fuerte.....
I dont see any hate or disrespect thing here.. probably just a request for a sparring, not a challenge in a rude way. At the beginning I see both of them still discuss while fighting and we dont see the actual context or the end of this vid. The title kinda misleading
He let the TKD guy show off his kicks. Then he proceeded to show him what real kicks look like.
Funny,Almost many art martial that teakwando become keyboard warrior and never admit they loss.
Kyokushin ：let me show yuou how to do a real hardass kick boy
TKD: 👣🦵🦶🥵
Kyokushin:🗿
What country did this happen in?
what country does this take place?
Watching his Taekwondo, reminds me, I'm also very good in this style. :-D
Kyokushin guy has great power and endurance from hitting
He has on TKD gear, but that isn't our stance. He looks a bit more like Jeet Kun Do. The real question is, who walks in to a place and just challenges a master out the blue?? 0:02??
Fighter in the Wind
it doesn't matter what martial arts you choose. It is what you expect and want from a martial art.
The best martial is the martial art that you enjoy it
Even calf kick is enough for Taekwondo guy.
First : this guy didn't understand anything to Taekwondo and martial arts in general.
Also, his taekwondo skills are terrible. He's fast, but his kicks don't have any power. He'll never be able to hurt someone with this.
It's completely stupid to challenge someone who practice a martial art you never trained to fight against and obviously, he didn't ever fight in a full contact fight. Once the kyokushin master hit him with a low kick, you can see that the taekwondo guy lost his self confidence and that he is scared of the karate master. Also you can see that it's the first time he's hitten by a low kick...
Conclusion : this is probably the worst taekwondo fight i've ever seen
*Great!*
Why Taekwondo and Kyokushin? Both of them are schools of Karate. They originated from the same Karate school, Shotokan Karate. Taekwondo is just a Shotokan Karate of Korean style.
When i saw the part of the vid where he sais: a teakwondo guy went in and challenged the instructor, i bursted an artery laughing
you can see that TKD guy's leg is already hurting you can see it in his movements
The tkd fighter looks like a beginner.
iam 24 is it late to start kyokushin now.... Always wanted to learn but never got a chance.... Now i have.. So is it late to start??
Nah man you are never late. Just whenever you feel like giving up think why you started.
As a Tkd fighter, if you insist on using tkd alone you need to adjust according to the opponent and stick to the basics. Tkd is known for its kicking efficiency, range, agility, stamina and speed. You won't win a game of strength and power. Utilize feints, foot work, stepping, ware out your opponent and break his rhythm and explode at his jaw or ribs.
Everyone always underestimates how much a leg kick can hurt.
It breaks your soul 😹
Did you know that Oyama who founded Kyokushin karate was a Korean?
Choi baedal
Even black belt in Taekwondo won't win against the Green Belt Kyokushin. Mark my words
I dare say even a yellow belt.
That taekwondo was probably training in a mcdojo
It looked like the taekwondo dude was fighting a cyborg.
Flowery TKD kicks do nothing when you aren't connected to the ground. Hilarious 😂
You guys really think this was a legit taekwondo practitioner?
Looks more like Santa vs. Shotokan karate
Lol 😂😂😂
De que le sirve tanto saltito frente a un Kiokushin?
That out and in TKD footwork looks like came out from some action movies
As a Taekwondo Kyokushin Lover and student i apologise the Kyokushin sensei ❤
Quite polite Sensei. Low kick frequency and power ought to be much more, so this jumping jack could keep this experience for a very long time.
Who ever trained the TKD guy did a shitting job!
Good sparring match. I’m giving it to the karate guy. You can tell if you watch that the TKD guy is very good at the sport of TKD, but he’s not great at the fighting part of it. His kicks are fast, but he’s not turning over his hip, and what should be a nice round kick is turning into upward crescent kicks, which get to the target quickly but lack power. Karate guy was solid though. Nice based stance, good defense, and he did good at trapping him in that corner and throwing some good punches.
0:34 I think you are bad idea to catch him.
He can pivot kick
Saved by the 'bell'!
It's not about the discipline.
The TKD fighter looks average, while Kyokushin fighter looks more experienced. His black belt is not for show.
I can tell from the stance and how each attack executed.
I think Kyokushin fighter held back.
that is jet kun do stance not taekwondo.
lol true
Vincent Bernardo Has It’s Taekwondo I know that guy is a black belt idiot
Jeet Kun Do took the stance from Tae Kwon Do, look it up and educate yourself
Why would you go to someone's dojo and start calling them out
To prove they are dumb 🤣😂
taekwondo guy's attacks are as powerful as mosquitos
TKD is flashy looks great, but Kyukushin is deadly
both Taekwondo and Kyokushin
The guy clearly ain't a tkd player. First of all, that is not a tkd stance. We also don't move like that. We don't practice low kicks and sweeps very often but we practice them for self defense. Also for the people who say tkd isn't effective, just WTF tkd or sport tkd isn't as effective but will work of used right, but the traditional tkd or ITF tkd really is devastating.
Gian Calub
He used only a couple TKD techniques. His stance looked more JKD, MMA. I agree. He wasn't as "bad" as people think. The trouble was he fought a legitimate martial artist who knew how to use structure, stance and balance. It is fortunate for the challenger that this sensei had no desire to hurt him. He put in just enough power for the challenger to feel the effect, without following up or hitting vulnerable spots. Then he would back slightly to allow the opponent to respond. I'm impressed.
Holy look at those Kyokushin kicks!
I learned taekwondo for 8 years, and also learn kyohoshin 4 years,
This Video, show real Kyokhushin fighter, but defenetly not real Taekwondo practioners, maybe just a noob, or just a lovers.
From the way he moves, the way he kick, all wrong
The TKD guy doesn't know how to throw a punch 😂😂😂
Because tkd is a shit martial art there punch are literally weak as fuck
@@saysamnang9851 lmao
@@saysamnang9851 haha ur funny go search up taekwondo kickboxers
@@saysamnang9851 they’ll break your jaw with a spin wheel kick
@@eliasaquinomijares4072 "kick"
Topic:Punching
good thanx
Can you feel the humor of so-called Tae Kwon Do vs Kyokushin - both in a challenge in China, of all places...
LoL
fun fact: Taekwondo is the most popular martial art in China.
Kyukoshin really focuses on the low kicks and punches. Especially the low kicks.
"TKD"Kin dances like Jeet Kune Do
Karate is superior to TKD in that there is more diversity regarding the variety of styles in karate. Most of the styles of TKD are super similar and it’s pretty hard to find a difference between them (WTF, American, ATA, AAU, Olympic...etc) while karate styles are usually VERY different (Shotokan, Go ji ryu, Kyokushi, Ken-po, Kem-po, Kudo, Ishin ryu, Point Karate...etc)
Karate has a variety of styles for sure. Taekwondo is one of them. All six founding fathers inkl. Choi Hong-Hi were Karate practitioners with no further background (excerpt for Chun Sang-Sup who knew Judo). Some of them learned directly under Tōyama (Shudo-kan) und Funakoshi (Shoto-kan). First draft for the name was Tang Soo Do, way of the empty hand = Karate, which some schools still use and practice in Korea. Most transitioned to a less evident name - taekwondo.
@@dimaGBHS Tang Soo Do is korean karate right? But yeah Karate is more dynamic, adaptable, and more effective than TKD.
Eeemmmm..... Look the UFC and Talk , el taekwondo está presente en los timings y movimientos y destreza rápida de la UFC mientras que el karate es engorroso y bruto
The best kick "kaiten geri"
That's a high risk high reward kick
Leg kicks from hell😎😎
Kyokushin : well he cant beat me if he cant kick 🗿
Man we got the same timer at Panda Express
at this rate i would rather use my punches front kick and fake kicks works like a charm. ive challenge a muay thai practitioner before and it was the hardest and toughest fight i have ever experience. as a taekwondo practitioner always use the effective kicks like front kicks and punches for additional damage always keep your distance.
karate punch and kick so explosive
Jin vs Hwoarang
Bro the teakwondo guy is getting his ass whooped koyokoshin karate guy is straight up cooking bro golly 🔥🔥🔥
This guy doesn't train TKD. Not for more than 1 month anyway.
he actually looks better than %90 of TKD black belts...
Sensei Corey McDojang black belts maybe. It's too bad most dojangs are McDojangs.
His footwork and his kicks are garbage. He is incredibly inexperienced.
I think you have to admit that for the most part, TKD has been discredited as a legit martial art. Its an activity, maybe fancy gymnastics at this point.....this comming from someone who trained in it for 6 years as a child...Kyokushin and Enshin are others like it are the true martial arts now
Grarvindur TKD is for pussy cats
I'm Korean and I've been trained in TKD. But I've never seen such a step like that.
Burmese, Blue Belt. Also, I've never such thing like this. Seems like this guy comes from a Mcdojo
Satisfying crunchy leg sound
Maybe if mr, taekwondo would put LESS energy into bouncing around and more intil SLIDE advancing into his attacks to focus on making them faster, sharper, more surprising..he would stand a better chance of landing a strike. -_-. CHrist, I'm taekwondo basic-level student and even I understand this from experience.
good spar
Excelente!!!
jin kazama vs hwoarang