American segregation, mapped at day and night
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2019
- We work in diverse places. We live in segregated ones.
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Correction: At 3:37, we mislabeled a map "Charlotte," but it is actually the Charleston metropolitan area.
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America policies engineered our segregated homes. But the workplace? That had the chance of being a place where we interact with people of other races - and form meaningful relationships. These maps show that this hasn't exactly happened. In fact, the most personal parts of our lives is still very segregated.
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Correction: at 3:37 the video mistakenly labels a map "Charlotte." The map shown is actually of the Charleston metropolitan area.
Vox do the 5 dollar native Americans bill
Who cares?! Why do we need to integrate every neighborhood in the country? As long as opportunities are equally present for all people in all parts of the country, we don't need to live side by side.
6:15 is misleading; it fails to control for the relative population proportions. To take a more extreme example, suppose some group makes up 1% of the population and its members have 50% same-group friends. That group would be extremely self-socializing - "rejecting" (99%)*0.5 of different-group people as friends while only 1%*0.5 of same-group people. If its members made friends with people regardless of their group status, you'd expect that its members have 1% same-group friends, not 50%.
That of course doesn't mean the choice is that of a group member; if they're segregated and only have the opportunity to make friends with same-group members, then it'd be unsurprising. But knowing the % same-group friendships without controlling for base rates is very misleading.
(Example groups with less than 10% population prevalence: gay, Jewish, blind, transgender, or lawyers. If >20% of your friends are in one of those groups, your friendships are weighted in favor of group membership, because they're really not that common. If none are in those groups, then your friendships are weighted against, because they're not *that* rare.)
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Give us Liberty!!!!!!
I care!!! I feel insulted. I'm a proud African American resident of Charlotte. I can state for the record that Charlotte is very diverse city and this issue does not exist in one of the highest ranking cities with black middle class and the second biggest banking center in the nation besides New York. To add insult to injury New York have a lot of middle class African Americans and is one the most expensive cities to live in the country. There is a problem in Charlotte with minorities being pushed out of their homes in Charlotte. The point is you misrepresented the information and the facts. I call for Vox to take down this video at once and change the city from charlotte to Charleston at once. The president of the United States writes a letter to a thrid grade teacher and she sends it back corrected and with a enough gramical mistakes you would think it was written by a 1st grader. Now news organization can not give accurate facts or misinterperts them like the president. #HighlyMisleadingNews
It was a Hwite community
Lol
press f to pay respects to Bob Ross
H wite
Like Stewie Griffin. lol...
I tell you hwhattt.
I always wonder if a family member of these people sees this and asks, "Grandma! Is this really you?!" "WTF!!"
What's the point?
@@freeman4988 if you live in Europe you wouldn't understand perhaps it goes over your head.
The Defender The fact that the US obsesses over race? Yes, I don’t understand. I don’t treat black people any differently than white people or Asian people. Any problem seems to be blamed on racism, when it’s a problem of rich vs poor.
@@tsfbaf303 which goes along the lines of white and black. The video just showed us that and you still refute it. Sad
I mean it was a different time
They measured diversity by "is white" and "is black". b r u h
I mean segragetion in america has always been a White black issue
Color didn't exist back then hence black and white tvs
1:21
I saw that too. It said “people of color” and just had black people on it. Like what bro I’m brown where do I stand in this?
@@jeremydavila7168 LA changed to hispanic too. I'm curious if the data sets have more racial backgrounds but vox just threw some up.
I thought it was really weird when I first experienced racism. I had lived in Korea all my life and it was just not an issue because well, we don't have too many foreigners or differently skinned people. The USA sure must have had its share of hard times. Thanks for an interesting video.
@A P isnt that racist toward Koreans?
@@buddyspecialops 1. They're just stereotyping Koreans 2. South East Asia is Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, and so on, not Korea
@A P Haha you’re not any better. Referring to a certain race as “you people” is racist
@@exe1972 how is he supposed to refer to them? You Fishes?😂
@@exe1972 no its not? the referring to a certain group of people isnt racist, but prejudicing against them or undermining them is.
Y'all americans pretty obsessed about race, huh
Yeah... Its a bit annoying especially when everyone has equal rights in America at this point.
It’s because race is still problem in america
Urgh of Tar just cause everyone has equal rights, doesn’t mean everyone has the opportunity to practice those rights. And before u reply just realize many minorities are deprived of their rights
Watching from the outside it always felt like a stupid problem to me. But I guess it's hard to thrown away a part of your culture.
Yeah lmao the first step should be to stop labeling people by race
Ha! The joke's on you. I have no friends from any race.
- hermit
Ha! The jokes on you. I have no friends.
I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally
i only have white frens lol
Is this what they call an edgy teen?
Something I will never understand is why anyone would feel superior based on the colour of their skin?
superiority is nothing to do with why people clash with one another.
it's simply survival. and of course that which is survival of the fittest, you can call superior if you like. ;)
DLC ENERGY so white people are superior?
DLC ENERGY your comment implies that white people are better off because they are the “fittest”
@@Matthew-nw5tb how? where do i mention race whatsoever?
DLC ENERGY he said that people feel superior based on the color of their skin and you said superiority is about survival
Korean store owner in black neighborhoods: Am I a joke to you?
Sorry mate the world is only made up of white and black peoples everyone else is accidental placed by aliens 🥴
@@vibesbynae4860 true
@Tianrang Bu it’s sick
then michael douglas barges in
Cause a lot of white neighborhoods nice good good neighborhoods don't want liquor stores in their neighborhood. Whereas a lot of minority neighborhoods some of them I said some of them are OK with it.
Levittown sounds like it was an awful place to live.
So true i wouldn't want my worst enemy to live there thats hoe bad it is
Im sure there was a ton of gang violence, white on white crime, and drugs. Oh wait...
Sounds like a good place to live, with people who you'd have a lot in common with and gel quite harmoniously.
You're in every single video I watch. Like a Justin Y. that uploads good content.
YuhNinja no just a bunch of pedofiles and rapists
*mixed people have left the chat*
can_i_help_you. Pun intended?
Michael Gogick yes you goddamn beta
ThatOneSmartBoi Careful with what you say, you could get kicked for offensive language.
Why would we leave
Aye my people
me, a brown person, who lives 10 minutes away from levittown pennsylvania:
Ugh im sorry for u
Is it still a white only community or has that changed?
@@bd10232003 weirdly enough the majority of the population is white.... but russian immigrants that moved in the last 20 years
You look white enough for them
Oh no, I can imagine all the Karens in that community.
2:40 "You can see the city centres are pretty diverse."
Just because there's less white people doesn't necessarily mean it's more diverse.
yeah but they are actually more diverse.
I feel like they think black people are the only nonwhite people
This video does not ask 'why', which is an important question
underrated comment and point
It's due to historical housing discrimination that forced African-Americans into inner cities while White Americans flocked to the suburbs during the suburbanization era. Areas where African-Americans lived would actually become valued less in the housing market because people didn't want to live in those areas, which disincentized giving loans to African-Americans for homes in predominantly White neighborhoods.
@Stephen Jenkins Sure that's true, but there's no inherent reason African-Americans would want to live in an urban area with low property values and economic opportunity. For example, half of my family lives in an African-American suburb community, which is different than being restricted to the ghetto.
Stephen Jenkins ur modern context are honestly historic, neighborhoods went bad When everyone didnt have equal rights and after that ended, racism was still there and black people didnt get equal opportunity’s and that left the mark forever. For example Chicago its pretty much bankrupt and the more diverse communitys were never able to get those opportunities and they probably wont i doubt that the situation that was created decades ago can be fixed today. From personal experience everything you said is completely wrong people in bad neighborhoods will take every chance to get out but its hard And for almost everyone its impossible
Because “oppression” duh! I’m ruling out all other explanations from the get go and if you posit one, I will shame you!
It's more of an social thing then a racial thing if you ask me. I lived in the ghetto, first chance I got to move out I moved to a upscale predominantly white area but I felt completely out of place, I couldn't relate well with any of my neighbors even the few black ones. Any time they had community events we were never invited and anytime we did anything and invited our neighbors only one or two families would show up. so I bought a house in a more diverse middle class suburb where on one side I got white neighbors, other side black neighbors, and a Muslim family and Hispanic family acrossed the street and even got a gay couple a few houses down from us, but I actually feel more at home in this community, every Sunday when the kids are playing and everyone is out all races and different groups are all together. You didn't have that in the ghetto or in the upscale neighborhoods I once lived in but in the middle class area it was just natural for all of us to be together...
Andre Johnson So basically you didn’t feel comfortable in the more segregated neighborhood?
@@jaylanpaige7541 Not in the predominantly white area. How would someone feel comfortable in a area where if I take a walk my neighbors looking at me like I'm a suspect. I felt comfortable in the hood because that's where I was raised but I didn't want to be in that type of environment
@zyzz Naw. But if you want to think that's the case that's your opinion. I moved where my financial situation allowed me the benefits of living comfortable. Example: It wouldn't be that comfortable living in the hood while I'm make 80 grand a year, I had to wear work clothes in a area where most people was unemployed didn't make me feel comfortable either. Parking a $40,000 car in front of a $40,000 home wouldn't make me feel comfortable. Do you get the picture???
America
This how it is in Toronto, I'm so glad I was raised in a diverse City
*stops at **2:16*
Me: did the internet go off?
When someone says "hwite" you know something questionable is coming out of their mouth.
Except for Bob Ross
“Get over it slavery was in the past” but effects of it are happening everyday
occam not every black man is a thug not every white man is racist now stfu
Exactly. Civil rights act was only 50 years ago... the people who fought for it are still alive today. It's really not that long ago. And given the comments, clearly some unsavory views were passed down among white folk
Clint Eastwoods wood
ruclips.net/video/GWwiUIVpmNY/видео.html
Here’s a short video explaining past effects that have gotten black people to where they are now and their are also links in the description for stats.
@occam you sound like you have plenty friends.... get out the house virgin
@occam sad lonely white dude spotted.
As a person in Chicago I found it very interesting to see personally my area and area around me I know of that are more diverse - yet how diverse they actually are
Just let people live how they want to live with who they want to live by, stop trying to force people to ascribe to your eutopian dream. We do need equality under the law but then let people live freely
I’d love to see the stats for other places, like UK and Australia
I think in terms of the UK, you'd have to include Muslims in the demographic.... Even though it's not a race, it's a religion, it plays a HUGE factor in cities like London.
I was thinking this very thing.
It's the same
For the UK there are similar sorts of figures available on Wikipedia actually, I think sourced from the Office of National Statistics (Government figures), if you go onto different cities under the demographics section, there is usually are usually maps showing areas within the cities and their percentage make up of various ethnicity's. From what I've seen, its not too dissimilar to the US - people tend to segregate themselves by race.
What’s interesting is that the British have a higher proportional white population than ever before, during the days of the empire whites were a minority, since the empire is gone tho whites are a vast majority at ~87% of the population
I give it an hour before neckbeards on RUclips start denying this systematic segregation.
Lmfao
Yeah, remimd me why black people cant choose where they live? Show me the laws that say black people cant live where they want? It takes one thing to own a house. Money. Money isnt racist. Dr.Dre is a billionaire for a reason.
@@YuhNinja Dre is an outlier, there's a cycle that prevents black people from getting a better education and therefore a job.
@@YuhNinja dumbass
Reheem, so by your logic black people are racist for not wanting to live in white-majority areas and white people are racist for not wanting to live in black-majority areas. So buying a house in a specific are is now racist
Jokes on you I don’t have friends
even at school we segregate our self
True
@@dalvinestrellavz not true
The real question is, how do you monetize time spent in the comments section?
Jonathan Facebook can tell you they’ll probably sell it to vox for their next video
I'd be rich for all the time is spent reading these
Yes this is the question I need answered LoL
How's the diversity at vox?
I wonder who is at the manager position and who is at the janitorial position at vox and verge.
Find out for us
diversity of ideas, where is the pen conservatives are kept?
James Bankoff, Casey Wasserman, David Zilberman, Zachary Kaplan are the board of directors according to bloomberg. All white of course :D
I am not gonna bother looking for their janitors, so we may never know^^
100% jewish
Who is here after anti-racism protesters going on in US
Black Lives Matter?
It would be intresting to see public transportation routes over-layed on top of these day night cycles.
Where I'm from, public transit played huge roles in employee eligiblity.
Companies won't hire those without reliable means to get to work, so if a train, or bus didn't make a stop within 5 miles, you didnt apply to that position.
I'd like to think that could be one of the reasons for the huge distribution spreads that are being showcased.
All of these metropolitan cities share that in common.
Thanks for covering the subject!
It's a very interesting hypothesis.
I get it, but this is overlooking 1 major fact. Especially when it talks about friends. There are more white people.
Also, there is a lot of self-segregation. Maybe some black people feel more comfortable in a neighborhood of more black people. Black universities. Companies started by a person of ethnicity whose major goal is to give more chances to people of ethnicity.
I think the most important thing that could be done is ensuring all people have access to a good education with lots of positive reinforcement
Rab yeah, I live and grew up in a all black area and you just get use to living in those areas and don’t really want to move out,
Blacks have a victim mentality.
True. Asian/chinese communities been living in my country for generations and they're pretty segregated from the rest of the population, even speaking their own languages and all. Yet there are no problems. So long as people got an equal rights, over educations, healthcare, welfare, and everything else, I don't really see a lot of problem????
I'm a Muslim, and subconciously (this is not something I intended) I surround myself with a lot of Muslim people, I befriend mostly Muslims. Its nothing about segregation and systematic racism, its just human nature.
Americans are pretty obsessed about race and will look through anything so detailed to look for problems, even if there's none.
@@MultiCatwolf exactly what im thinking!
This would make sense but the government didn't provide loans to black people. So black people never had a chance
"diversity of your friends" is a moot point if you don't have friends.
Segregation doesn't get "better" or "worse". It gets increased or decreased.
@@souwurfe fizzzzzzzz pop.
daft wod objectivity speaking, you’re right.
Aw man
You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Can please mention the library you used to make this plot and also if possible please please please provide the link to the dataset
Most Hispanic people have friends of other races..... well hispanic isant a race so that makes sense
is white a race? its a color duh!!!
ibrahim boiem ?
ibrahim boiem it’s not even a colour, it’s a tint
@@ibrahimboiemonyt according to Europeans it is
DSNCB919 right
Levittown seems like where the next Jordan Peele movie gon' be set in.
😂 for sure
Yep im gon' get me one o dem good payin jobs an moov out da hood. Den dem white folks gon' get woke.
André Vital Pardue *Peel Movies SUCK, Absolutely AWFUL! Cant figure out if they scarry or funny. Thus They end up being NEITHER.*
@@Luke-vr4mg samy said AfroLatino Ghetto, Americas way of saying they NEVER FCKING REGRETTED making the reservations... most whites never even gone to either, this is what white America created, making their world by stealing everyone elses and btw fck the insecure fragile dislikers
@@franciscoacevedo3036 you realize thats been par for the course for ever capable civilization? Egyptians enslaved other blacks for hundreds of years before they sold them to colonials. how do you think the pyramids were built? On fair wages? LMFAO
I’d love to see the stats for other places, like Australia, Canada, and New Zealand
way worse. It's 97% anglo white at top positions in australia at the top 200 companies.
6:15 the reason behind that is because there are more white people in the usa rather than black and hispanic,so with that in mind its more natural for somone to tend to have more white friends even if he is non white if it was the other way around it would be natural for a white person to have more black and hispanic
You make a very excellent point
i live in toronto & noticed this pattern through tinder. during the day, it would be diverse but in the evening/weekend, the profiles would be like 80% asian
Patrick L interesting...
@Suffer No Fools It's all proximity-based and your pool updates frequently enough for night and day to be markedly different.
@Suffer No Fools give it a shot if you're single and looking for that sort of thing! Lol
@Suffer No Fools there there :') me too friend. The sun will rise again.
@Suffer No Fools sorry to hear about the situation with your dad, that's rough. Good luck with the new job, and learning web development. Wishing you strength of motivation and discipline - I'm always terrible at trying to learn through online courses, RUclips videos, textbooks etc because I can't structure my time without someone breathing down my neck, and be honest with myself. Sounds like you've got the drive though. Hope things turn upward, in general 🖖
Anecdote: My department at work is about 50/50 black and white employees and we all get along well. We don't normally meet outside of the office but we scheduled a Christmas party at a restaurant. There were about 25 of us and the restaurant arranged two rows of tables. As people gradually showed up, all the black employees ended up sitting in one row and all the white in the other. Someone finally noticed this and a couple of people switched rows so it wouldn't appear segregated. I don't think we ended up self-segregating by chance and I don't think it was entirely conscious.
Ford Warrick Jr Is there a problem with natural segregation?
i understand your point, the same with women and men at party, you'll see the women gather, it dont make them sexisits. we'll always have more in common with those like ourselves, but always open to learn of others.
Socialized affinity well known in class and the differences in how whites and blacks are raised are enough to account for such patterns....so says all the Science on the matter, this isn't rocket Science and it does not affirm the hypothesis that such segregation is "natural" either. It's not .... socialization is the magic ingredient here and that is steeped in bias.
As a Black person trust me when I say those Black people at your job have been pushed together by the subtle racism you and your colleagues display
MaddBlakMannVideos trust me when I say that’s your insecurity speaking
I started a new job and one of the first things my republican coworker said to me. (After finding out my girlfriend was white) he asked me was it bad that he didnt like the idea of his daughter dating a blackman. This guy is not an anomaly I work in IT.
Bbc
Saw the thumbnail and thought Vox made another Minecraft video
Why weren't Asian people listed in the survey about social circle diversity at the end of the video?
WTF
@@thevampire6065 idiot
@@Calvbread no you're racist
What about gay folks
Because asians are smart honorable people that have contributed a lot to humanity.
pretty sure the problem isn't racism specifically. more likely its classicism. Id like to see it broken down by income level instead of race.
And where do you think those income level differences come from?
There is definitely a class dimension that is simply overlooked in this and many other analyses. The struggle should be to bring back the idea of class
People will try to jump through any and Every hoop to try to avoid discussing race🙄. The driving message of the vid is "Who do you have meaningful discussions with?" Because if you have complex conversations with people who are different from you, it can really open your worldview and bring everyone closer to one accord, as opposed to having one particular race seemingly turn a blind eye to the thought of socializing with any other.
That alone would help everyone grow to equal levels within society since the majority of people who get hired into hire positions in their job have at least One connection (in the US anyway). It also creates more trust and respect in others who are different from you (whether you're friends with them or not). To act as if socializing more with different groups *can't* help people get along better today and literally bring about more equality without doing much at all on any government level is literally avoiding the simplest solution of them all.
@@Siik94Skillz because people don't go to school?
@@rickhamers9122 And why do people not go to school? Because they live too far away in unlucrative properties in poor low income neighborhoods that are too far away from any decent school district, and therefore are forced to consider abandoning education altogether for low skilled labor.
I'll tell you what though, the visual distinction between pink and light pink was super impactful, thanks! 😒
How do you confuse Charleston with Charlotte? One is literally on the coastline and one is smack dab in the middle of Noth Carolina
You should do a video about copyright abuse on RUclips. You guys seem to have plenty of experience. 👌
Give this person a gold star..
Fair use I guess???
James I agree.... almost forgot about that!!! They also didnt look into different races mixing online.
From Betamax case to Hosseeinzadeh v. Klein?
@@b3at2 They ignored your point because mixing online is irrelevant to continued residential and career development in employment segregation and what this makes clear about entrenched cultural apartheid Amerikkka.
Ok, probably going to get reamed here but I feel like this needs to be said. I study this kind of stuff a LOT. There are a few key things that are pretty much consider to be facts that are overlooked to make a point. Firstly, psychologically speaking, the vast majority of people are attracted to similar individuals. Obviously there are exceptions, but they tend to prove the rule: most people will live and associate with people that are similar to them. This isn't inherently tied to race, and can be applied to gender, creed, nationality, sexuality, etc. It can be seen in really every aspect of your life; and this just boils down to the fact that we like people like us and tend to be averted to dissimilar individuals or groups. The second fact, which was told to us in every political statistics class I took: race is one of the most powerful factor in deciding a candidate; it's pretty much right behind party affiliation. It kind of goes without saying that if people prefer similar people, the easiest thing to initially find in common is skin color. This is the information that every political statistics class will likely adhere to. It's pretty easy to call this racism and leave it at that, but that's not really being truthful. Everyone is programmed this way: it does NOT mean you are intolerant, and it does not mean you have prejudice.
With that in mind, is it really fair to call our CURRENT situation outright racism? Maybe, but probably not as bad as they'd have you believe.
Minority-owned businesses are enjoying a rather meteoric rise in prominence, and this is amazing news. Additionally, these minority-owned companies tend to hire more minorities, which fits quite nicely with the theory stated above: like associate with like, especially race. Economic centers aren't likely to change location and people go where the money is, so I'd say the fact that more minority-owned firms in economic centers is a huge upshot from the data they had. Ok, cool, the economic centers are pretty much equal. But the companies are either primarily minority white, except for the janitorial staff which is still primarily minority. Except that this is factually incorrect. Roughly 65% of janitors are White and 17% are Black, which is not that far off from the population spread of the US as a whole. As for the neighborhoods, that's also pretty intuitive: it's pretty likely that you were raised in a neighborhood of similar people: if you liked it then you'd likely stay in that area. It's not that either the minorities and whites don't want to integrate: it's just that people like what they are familiar with. Why would you move to the opposite side of a town for the sake of integration? The fact that the minority areas are poorer is still unfortunate and needs to be addressed is another issue entirely. If you're black, raised in a black neighborhood, are immersed in black culture, and enjoy it then why the hell would you move across town to live with the whitebread?
This video is actually doing little to solve any problems that actually exist and is making non-issues seem like problems. Segregation is still quite real, but more economically than anything. There's actually a huge difference between explicitly advertising yourself as a white community, and a community that remains mostly white because of the cost of living there. The latter is the more effective issue to direct your attention to. Because legally the former is not allowed to exist; and you can actually do something about it if you find yourself facing it. The fact that a lot of white people don't have black friends is also not really a problem. Yes, if we're aiming for total integration then it should be 100% but that's not realistic. But I would bet that the figures for African Americans with no white friends is almost equally as bad. It takes work on both parts, which means that both African Americans and Whites need to make strides in this respect. It's not fair to look whites with no black friends as racist and not the other way around.
EDIT: If you actually want to ask a legitimate question or want me to elaborate on something I'll try to reply when I can, but please do it respectfully. Thanks!
I think a more interesting perspective to parse out would be income disparities among races. Blacks, in the main, are dramatically poorer than whites. It was determined in Brown v. Board of Education that separate is inherently unequal. It probably would have been better to make a finer point on segregationist housing policies that excluded people of color that still linger today, at least certain repercussions. Perhaps the main driver of housing segregation is cost of living. I'm sure minorities would love to have higher paying jobs, and don't simply refuse them because they don't like making money, or would rather work for minorities. For most I would imagine they low wage job they have is because that is all they can get. I'm not suggesting giving minorities jobs they are not qualified for, rather understanding why is it that they are unqualified for better/higher paying jobs.
Your point on voting only makes sense if you think that humans are robot like. We might be "programmed" that way but everyone can think for themselves and so if similar looking guy A is an idiot in your opinion then you will most definitely choose different looking guy B. That's what makes us human. To be able to differentiate simple binary decisions by considering various other factors. Your argument was so flawed that I didn't even bother finishing...
@Pablo Galindo Consider the size of eyes and the size of...skin.
@@Siik94Skillz Siik94Skillz And how often is Person A an idiot relative to person B? And how often is 'idiot' used non-subjectively? The example was to say "Assuming similar candidates..." You think the black communitiy wasn't voting for Obama either way? They wanted one of theirs in office b/c it's never happened. And I'd do the same. I think Carly actually nailed this on the head. There are a lot of primal mechanisms in affect concerning the way we behave and make decisions and not all of this is 'racism'. Society is still an ideal that humans have to adapt to. I'd bet we're still better suited for a tribe/village style of living on a more primitive level. Anyway, you should take your definition of 'humans' and consider her argument as another 'factor' b/c it's one you'll never hear in the news.
Joseph Sonners and why are they unqualified?
Vox, are you guys Geography major? I find your presentation great and looks like you apply geographic data in every videos you present.
As long as different races exist, racism will always exist, change my mind.
Youre dangerously close to getting the point
Racism is natural, but colorblindness is learned, it can be achieved but it'll be hard
A first glance yes, however it's the actual ignorance that created racism.
Correction: as long as ignorance and bad character exist, racism will always exist. Racism is a sociological thing and have no roots or support in our genetics
Bella M yes it is. it totaly is. Why do you think small children tend to segregate themselves until they are older? its more xenophobia than racism
6:19 And Asians? Everyone forgets about Asians.
To be honest, I think asian people is a more isolated and secluded group than all other races...
The left never does, why would they? They're commies, you break the native only whites do well in America, so you must be ignored.
Most asians during that time, even now, are in the USA because they're wealthy already so they usually keep to their own OR surround themselves with other wealthy people who are mostly white.
Because we're not worth being put into racial demographic category. The simplest reason is there's simply not a lot of us. We're the minority of the minorities. There's simply not enough data to put us on the demographic map. Based on my life experience, there's a several, more subtle reasons.
1) many first generation asian immigrants who congregate in asian communities are illegal immigrants. Therefore they're not included in the census. Illegal immigrants also generally do not speak english. So collecting data is difficult. we're a peaceful and productive lot so we mostly get ignored by immigration authorities.
2) Due to stringent immigration policies from asian countries, first generation immigrants who ARE legal come from well educated backgrounds in their native countries. They usually speak english well. Both my parents were able to immigrate legally because both of them spoke english and had college degrees before they came to the states. So they start off in a much better position than their illegal peers.
3) Most importantly is the fact that we integrate into white society as soon as possible for one reason. Education for our children. Thats why we see a disproportionate amount of asians in Ivy League universities. My parents would love nothing more than to be in the company of their peers. Most of their friends are asian. But they settle in predominately white communities because it provides better education opportunities. Second generation asian-americans get a huge advantage in life thanks to their education and become relatively affluent even compared to whites. Since we grew up in predominately white neighbhor hoods, we easily integrate into white society and culture by the time we reach adulthood. We sorta just disperse into upper-middle class white communities (whom are much more willing to accept us as peers because they tend to be very liberal).
tldr: everyone forgets about us because on all demographic attributes except race, we're basically white. No one is gonna stop us on the street for being asian. We don't have a problem with getting housing, employment, etc. We get treated on a level of equality that blacks and hispanics can only dream of. Hell, we even get shafted by Affirmative-Action. The only time i get reminded of the fact that i'm not white is when i'm walking through the city with my white girlfriend and people look at us for a bit too long. It's like they're trying to figure out if we're actually a couple. Hell even I do it because you usually dont see an asian man with a white girlfriend/wife.
Asian is too spicy 😍
The statistics of races of friends is flawed, because it does not take into account total population. In a population where white is majority, even if you don't show prejudice in making friend, you will end up having more white friends. The statistics should adjust for that.
It's not reporting how many other-race friends you have, but how many people have even one other-race friend. Influenced by demographics, yes, but still an indication of lack of integration.
@@bonsaiviking But in places where you are the majority it is possible to not have to interact with other while miorities dont get such luxury. Non white would also interact with those outside there groop less if they could.
This. I'm sure vox's conclusions are correct but the stats need to be adjusted so it's weighted correctly.
On average if you randomly choose your friends (assuming a nationwide pool to choose from) then because of demographics you should have 62% white friends 18% Hispanic friends 12% black friends 5% Asian friends and 3% friends of two or more race or other race. Deviations from this (on average) are likely the result of prejudice/preference in one form or another.
totally agree
Statistic is a powerful tool, but if you don't know what the stats actually mean, don't use those stats.
@VOX The 9 city map at 3:40 was labelled incorrectly. That was not Charlotte :)
Not a "hwite" community!! :)
samy said AfroLatino Ghetto, Americas way of saying they NEVER FCKING REGRETTED making the reservations... most whites never even gone to either, this is what white America created, making their world by stealing everyone elses and btw fck the insecure fragile dislikers
@1GoldRunner LMAO
Not just hwite, but also properly inbred.
Lmfao, WTH hwite????
@Take the red pill *, Chris
Exactly. We’re still feeling the effects of redlining to this day.
This redlining stuff isn’t just overblown SJW fluff. It’s real, and it still hurts minorities.
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Jason Cragg can you stop your propaganda in the comment section? I don't care who wears what, what i care about is the Racism they perform
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I lived not far from Levittown, Long Island. I always wondered why that town looks sort of 'exclusive' in terms of but not that expensive
2:16 thought my phone hanged for a while lmao
I thought it was buffering
Even I thought the same😂😂
Yeah had to check my data
This video made me realize that my whole city was probably created because of segregation or at least expanded to what it is now because of it. I live in a town just across the bridge from Tacoma Washington, a very diverse city. But 10 minutes away is my city which is VERY white, very religious, very wealthy and very conservative. It’s a startling realization to say the least.
Why should you be startled? Have you been keeping your head in the sand?
Congratulations on taking the first step out of the Matrix :)
Texas Gun damn, another racist comment. I hope to meet you one day.
Carson Walter yikes
Different people coming together in different communities is SCARY. Look at all these races separated by country lines! SCARY STUFF. I'm frightened that Africa and the Middle East are segregated by a border, on RACIAL lines. FRIGHTENED.
I feel so sorry for all native Americans and their stolen home 😭
@Frontend Programmer No, it wasn't. It was conquered.
tmcmurra63 what do you think treaty’s are? Legal agreements that were broken aka Stolen
@@kaitlin9890 All part of the process of conquest.
@Michael VR nope, it's evil when you self are a imigrant and try to throw out other imigrants
OctoBro actually they colonized it first then they immigrated there you cant immigrate when theres no country to immigrate too
Race is real and it matters.
Cultural diversity isn’t the same as cultural competency! Just because a community/organization/school is integrated does mean that the relationship and interactions are meaningful. One has to be willing to learn about the other individual and take purposeful steps to engage; this is true in with all relationships not just racial diverse ones.
Literally force intergrated does not work and I don’t why it was push so hard it does not work
Correction: at 0:00 - 6:48 the video mistakenly speak of Hispanics as a "race". Hispanic is actually a culture. You could be white, black, native american or mixed and still be Hispanic!
in america they got a race for everything
That is...very false, sorry.
In reality there's no such thing as races. We're not dogs.
@@dariotherunner dogs are breeds not races
@@seribelz you got my point, races are social constructs only.
Dude, cite these studies please! That's a major step toward being credible as a RUclips channel
I wish sources would be cited. I'm trying to find articles used by these to write to my representative and i can't find anything.
You mention at 4:27 that "we're exposed to about as much diversity now as we were a generation ago." Even by your graph, this is not the case. Using this graph in 1980, workplace segregation was ~0.12 and is ~0.09 now. This is a 25% decrease in workplace segregation, hardly 'about' the same.
Yeah you’re right, but what he mentioned before that was the growth in minority population and there isn’t a correlation between that growth and a decrease in segregation. Or at least it should of been 25% without growth to actually make a difference.
Shariq Torres I was responding to the original post. Not you.
Whether or not 25% is a significant change depends on the metric. For example, babies born to women over 40 are twice as likely to have certain birth defects. However, the odds change from 1/10,000 to 1/5,000. From an absolute sense, not a significant change. Would you say .02 -> .01 segregation is a significant change? Sometimes people see things proportionally, other times in absolutes.
It's just typical vox bullshit, trying to hide the truth and logic
@Shariq Torres
0.12 - 0.09 = 0.03
0.03/0.12 = 0.25 or 25%
6:05
The "Who are your friends?" graphic does not give population statistics for the study to show whether there is segregation by comparison. In the population that the study examines, what percent of the population is there to other races? If they are all roughly equal, then I would agree with the point being made in the video. However, if they are not equal, then I feel that Vox is reaching (IE. If there is a higher population of one group, then the likelihood of someone having one friend from the higher population group is greater than having one from a lower population group). If the population of Hispanics is lower than black and black lower than white, and this is in proportion to the percentage of friends had between groups, then it goes against the point made in this video.
I'm not saying that there isn't segregation or that Vox is not correct in their statement on this one graphic; I'd just there to be context that verified the point that they are trying to make.
Context doesn't seem to be a priority for them
@@Aramazdkhatcherian never is shock stats is more their meta
@@Aramazdkhatcherian samy said AfroLatino Ghetto, Americas way of saying they NEVER FCKING REGRETTED making the reservations... most whites never even gone to either, this is what white America created, making their world by stealing everyone elses and btw fck the insecure fragile dislikers
It doesn't even take into consideration that by the time we are 40, we have changed friends many times over and that some of them could have been of a different skin colour. It's an unflexible question for flexible beings.
If I dont have black friends am I a Racist?
I would love to hear more about the part at 4:40. Do you have any source material for this? :)
I'll say it again & again: There's a huge difference b/t "diversity" & *Equality* ! Putting a bunch of "minorities" in more public spaces does NOT mean they'll receive equal opportunities, or live lives on par with the "majority" . Striving for True equality takes a lot of work; no political one-liner or viral tweet will accomplish this alone. *Real work must be done, in the Real world* by real people.
You forgot to mention that all nations without exception have an in group preference, and that westerners are the most welcoming and least bigoted among other cultures. :-/
Alex Nezhynsky (true)
I have notice that most africans move to Europe
That will be their doom
Pretty good explanation, but it fails on two points:
1) There are large swaths of America that aren't integrated because nobody wants to move there, so they remain white or black. The "75% of whites / 65% of blacks don't have opposite-race friends" is disingenuous because if you live in Northern NH or Jefferson County MS you literally don't have the opportunity to meet people of other races. This is particularly true for rural white Americans, as black Americans only account for 12.3% of the population.
2) Also, you should have clearly explained redlining and the denial of housing to black WWII vets (I know you did it before, but you should have repeated it).
well said
Agreed. Correlation is not the same as causation.
Even in diverse areas people prefer to socialize among there own race, nothing wrong with it. It’s a completely natural phenomenon.
@@HyperboreanAnchovy44 Sure, although a lack of social contact is indicative of a problem. If you live in a diverse area and don't have friends of other races (ethnicities would be a better way to frame it), then there's segregation (intended or not).
that concept is mind blowing to me, growing up in south florida i was always surrounded by other races and white was actually the minority at my highschool. it’s really mind blowing to me that people live in area of america where they only interact with white people.
Happening in my own backyard in DC...
attention ice! i found an illegal!!
@@MaryStewart Well at least he knows how to correctly follow grammar rules.
It would be interesting to see an update on this since Corona
So this guy knows how to code?
Lord ZeB
Why not? Because you need any excuse to derail his argument or accuse him of dishonesty somehow?
What goes on in your head, you cynical, close-minded people of the world?
Kind of keen to get my hands on that program. What other cool things can it be used for?
Most folks who work with statistics understand basic coding, to the extent that it helps them understand large data sets and how to understand relationships.
@@katesmailservice6383 same! if you get any news, let me know. I will look more for the code they used as well.
WOOSH
When they say "white" at 0:02, why do they put so much emphasis on the H?
Cool whHip
@@m2heavyindustries378 * Kewfwip
The “wH” is the sound of the whip wizzing through the air
It’s a white thing
@@drewjohnson9498 I'd say it's a regional dialect thing. I've heard more white Americans (especially from the south) use the Hwhite compared to other ethnic groups.
It's like that in Denver. There neighborhood area that have historically been Black and Hispanic neighborhoods. Our city is just in the past few years has started slowly developing housing to change that. But it's a struggle cause now you have wealth surrounded by poverty. If we truly want to diversify our communities we need to work on improving life for everyone.
How do you create the map at 2:32?
Do you have the code?
Stopped watching the video and started reading the comment section from the beginning.
Grabs popcorn...
indeed xD
I thought I was alone
Coming back 10 hours later and I have seen how fast it's grown. Lovely audience getting involved.
awesome analysis. thanks
Shut up
@@John-fg1xg hwat?
Ok New Jersey 😹🙏
@@John-fg1xg oh no no, you shut up.
How do you make these visualizations? Python?
I live one town away from a Levittown. Had no idea the meaning behind the name...
Kansas City's racial dividing line is a street called Troost Ave hence why the map shows such a straight split.
For anyone wondering about units used at 4:23 it's a plot of the Theil index over time (the Theil index is a measure of redundancy or lack of diversity, same as the redundancy measure in information theory) that being said idk if a value of .12 is a lot or a little I just wanted to provide more info. Also that plot is on page ten of the paper cited by vox.
"Is this my tinnitus or the video" 0:21
the video
I am aware, but ahhhhhhhh why was this chosen
How can we integrate if we can't even talk to each other about the goings on in the world?
I don’t understand why everyone is so angry at Vox? This is just educational.. I thought it was interesting.
Because people hate when vox gets "political." Meaning they hate when they start talking about stuff that makes them uncomfortable.
your hoping he is using proper facts and figures :-)
because it seems like they are pushing an agenda and not giving the full picture
@@FoxProto You're assuming there is a bigger picture though. When people bring up stuff that involves race, people think there's an agenda. But you don't realize we live in a very political world.
@@FoxProto I'm open to seeing this debunked, but I feel like the picture was as full as it gets. They dissected several stats and shown what they really mean. Would you be ok with a video that said: "there's no segregation, look at those diverse workplaces"? Because, as we can see from the video, that actually would be not giving the full picture.
How about Asian people in the end? What's their friend distribution ?
probably like 99% with no non-asian friends, lol. They are an incredibly secluded group of people
We got left out we got no voice here in america
Probabbly 99% asians are friends with rice
What kind of Asian? East Asian, South Asian, or Southeast Asian? I don't think Indians and Chinese are keen on living with each other.
Funny thing is asians make up the majority around the world
4:26 can someone explain to me how they can make the claim that workplace diversity hasn’t changed, when I see a ~30% relative drop in the chart?
i think they made an average of many charts from the study (that u can find online and read for yourself) and put that average into their own graph and saw that workplace segregation has changed but only “very little”. i think the graph they made is too general as according to the study workplace segregation in retail is pretty high and hasn’t changed but workplace segregation in things like finance is relatively low and has changed a lot. their graph is somewhat of a poor representation and too broad and doesn’t correlate as accurately to their dialogue as it probably could. a graph taken directly from the study would have made more sense
Where I work at most of the people or 90% are Latin. And you know what there's nothing wrong with that. When I started and retail department stores the mid eighties it was mostly white.
Charlotte, NC, is not near the ocean. Charleston, SC, has a greater body of water splitting it than shown. I think showing a dataset for Charlotte would be more interesting due to its active and past gentrification (Brooklyn neighborhood) while having multiple suburbia areas outside the city center (Gastonia, Matthews, Pineville, Huntersville, South Park, Rock Hill).
This is so interesting. I live in Kansas City and the majority of my family and people that I know are people of color. The large majority work in Johnson County, Kansas. But they all live in either Kansas City, KS or Kansas City, MO. They work in the suburbs and live in an urban area.
Comedian's like Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, and DL Hughely all have a similar joke that ask "how can you be poor and white in America when you had a 400 year head start?' I'll be honest, I never fully understood this joke because I know plenty of poor whites, but I understand it now.
I've found that most segregationist, prejudice, and racist people don't realize that they are that way, they all just usually blame blacks for being to lazy or criminal to give themselves better lives.
Realist comment I’ve seen in a while
Yes. If you're poor and white either you are doing our your parents are dumb
Very powerful comment.
um, didn't know white people have a 400 years lifespan.
bIacks playing the victims card is really getting old. the truth is as of today there is NOT A SINGLE majority bIack nation that became prosperous and developed on their own, majority bIack neighborhoods are mostly more dangerous than neighborhoods occupied by any other races.
Maybe it's time to get over a 200 year old grudge and look into yourselves, what kind of culture are your little black children exposed to? is it Mozart or Migos. ?
what literature are you encouraging your children to read, is it a KFC menu with coupons or Uncle Tom's Cabin?
what role models black children look up to? scientists at NASA or Jay Z?
Maybe by indoctrination of a superior culture, blacks can achieve their fullest cognitive potential, but as of now it's more of a hit and miss.
You probable hide in a cave during black history month !
I was a real estate agent for a couple of years in Omaha, Nebraska and I had several black clients. With only one exemption, my black clients wanted to live in North Omaha, a predominately black part of the city. So, if this video has the goal of eliminating forced segregation, I am all for it. But let people live where they wish.
Steve Burton people of color choose to live where we feel safe. Yes there are cultural reasons, but generally we do so because we don’t want to constantly have white people calling the police on us because of their over-active imaginations.
Michael VR you’re literally enforcing a stereotype.
Yeah steve! Let them. Give them your permission.
red x17 you just self-owned lol 😂
So black people are not in danger living around other blacks? Are you serious???
What we need to remember here is that this is less the fault of a group of people and more the fault of an ideal that is widespread. If we were to look at younger people interacting with people of color compared to older people interacting with people of color it would be very different. I have hope for this future.
OK. But I have one question about the section "who are your friends?". If I was a Hispanic man in Dallas, I will have more opportunity to meet new friends from other races. Instead, if I was a white man in Dallas, born in Dallas, it will be easier to have so many friends from the same "Like me" because probably we are more than other races.
Please let me know what you think about this. Anyway... I'm Italian, but I love to know what happened around the world, so... thanks VOX :)
Doesn't Dallas have a significant amount of Hispanic people?
I mean, I grew up in a very white small town (about 97% white and only 6,000 people overall) so I didn't meet many people of other races. So I didn't really have any friends of other races until I moved to more diverse areas.
@Massimo: Yes, your intuition is correct, the video is somewhat misleading on the "75% of whites / 65% of blacks don't have opposite-race friends" point. In addition to your point that whites have far more opportunities to meet "people like me" just because of their sheer numbers, there are large swaths of America that aren't integrated because *nobody* wants to move there, so they remain white or black. If you live in Northern New Hampshire (98% white) or Jefferson County Mississippi (85% black) you literally don't have the opportunity to meet people of other races because nobody is moving to places where the best jobs are "tractor-jockey," "general-store-porch-sitter," or "deer-hunter." This is particularly true for rural white Americans, as black Americans only account for 12.6% of the total population and comprise a far smaller percent of rural populations outside of the South.
A more accurate statistic would have been "percentage of other-race friends in diverse communities." Another one that would be more representative of current race relationships would have been "percent of people 35 and younger who have friends of other races" because for older people like my parents there were far fewer opportunities to meet people of other races when they were in their friendship-forming years.
I was born in San Juan Puerto Rico and raced in a town of 50%Dominicans ,50%Puerto Ricans ,and mi parents are Dominican. But in when I lived there haved more Puerto Rican friends. Probably 70%.that makes me races
Most Hispanics live in densely populated Hispanic area, have a huge Hispanic family, and go to an all Hispanic school so it's just as hard to make friends of other races.
Irene it’s always been that way sadly, you see it a lot more in small towns. I’m literally only 20 mins away from a town about the same population as mine but we are completely segregated. My town is literally 90 percent Hispanic/Latino. While the town only 20 minutes north is 90 percent white. If you drive just past both towns you go into the city where it’s very diverse overall, but the black population still live in mostly the same neighborhoods/parts of town.
I’m pretty sure it’s natural human nature for people of the same race/culture/religion etc. to be together. It’s a subconscious action. Because the people around you share similarities, it’s more comfortable for you to be around them, thus making you stick next to them more than other people who are different. Even I, as an Asian American, consistently see the Asian group at school sticking together and the white group sticking together. It’s just similar qualities that draw people together. Not _just_ race.
no, it's just not race. but this video touched on the fact that race was an influencer in how neighbourhoods were designed and marketed, which means lots of kids grew up without ever meeting someone from another race, which is a big handicap towards ending segregation.
It's problematic when the U.S. Government subsidizes segregation
I do wonder what role African Americans wanting to be around people like them and who share their culture plays in modern housing segregation. Overt discrimination and discrimination by lenders along with community policing practices such as those cases of wealthy black men being interrogated or even shot when they lived in high end, majority white housing all definitely play a big part, but my mom also has seen cases like her African-American coworker with a middle class job who still lived in a 'bad area' (with a gang problem she was afraid of her kids becoming involved in) who still stayed because she wanted to stay connected to the community. Especially in the city, walking vs. having to take public transit/a *cab* can have a big impact on what you do. If you want to belong to a black Baptist church, you will likely find a place close to one.
@@evogreenrow8692 That doesn't mean people should face discrimination when they apply for a loan or have to be afraid of their white neighbors calling the cops on the 'burglar'.
@@merchantfan That just comes down to statistics.
Not much I can say about that.
I have always wanted to grow up and live in the suburbs, but I never wanted to live in the suburbs where half my family wouldn’t fit in
So This is where squidward went
I think the last survey is unfair. If we did the same survey but made it so each person picked their friends completely randomly, there would still be similar comparisons, because if you randomly picked someone in the US there is around a 70%-60% probability that they are white, so if your a white person, there is only a 30 %-40% chance to be friends with a different race. Whereas if you are some other race there is more than a 60%-70% chance of you finding a friend of a different race than you. This means that the survey you cited is skewed and makes it look like white people are just racist.
_"...if you randomly picked someone in the US there is around a 70%-60% probability that they are white, so if your a white person, there is only a 30 %-40% chance to be friends with a different race."_
Aren't you assuming everyone has exactly one friend? Remember, the statistic mentioned at 6:10 in the video said that 70% had *only* white friends, not that the majority of their friends are white.
I did a quick google search and found this: news.gallup.com/poll/10891/americans-satisfied-number-friends-closeness-friendships.aspx
Assuming the article is correct, and using the data from this video, we should expect to see each person have ((70/100) ^ 8.6) * 100% = 4.7% percent of people having only white friends. That is a pretty significant difference. So significant that I actually wonder if I used the correct number.
Please tell me of any mistakes I made.
edit: added the words " that 70% had " to a sentence for clarification.
The metric is to "list the people with whom you discussed important matters..." So that's not necessarily your friends. Could be family as well. So using the statistic you got from that article isn't really fair but I'll use it anyway just to demonstrate that all the races are inclined to their own. So you calculated the value for all white friends, 4.7%. The value for all black friends would then be (12/100)^8.6*100%=.0000012% and for all hispanic friends is .00004%. so you see it's pretty obvious that it's not just a chance based system by which people choose their friends. It's largely motivated by race for all races. To say one race is more or less motivated by race than another in their friendship preferences is difficult to say. There's not really a metric for it. If anything the data suggests blacks, then hispanics, and then whites are most motivated by race when choosing friends but again the stats are the results, they don't explain why races have these friends only that they do. So they might have a preference or they might be the result of segregation or shared values or a combination, etc..
@@whatarewaves
I completely forgot to take family into account. Thanks.
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@@jackswanson8326 gottem
2:13 I thought my internet crashed. Dont scare me like that.
I’d love to see the stats for other places, like Uganda and India
In rural India, caste based segregation tends to be rather extreme. It is somewhat better in cities because most of the poor/lower middle income upper caste immigrant labour families cannot afford to not live in the low rent areas along with lower caste families.
This was very eye opening.