Like your "after action" debreif on both rigs. A little different than the usual "canned" reviews on products. Did a mini demo ride this past weekend in the 6x6. Have to agree on the steering input feed to reply ratio. A little better ratio would be nice. Turning radius was pretty good for a big machine. But really turns up the ground in a tight turn with the rear locked axles. No turning on the lawn please. Engine breaking on hills could be more aggressive for my needs. I talked with the dealer I was at about snorkeling this rig. Very dusty where I would be using this. When it's not, it gets pretty muddy. Very doable using MXR parts. A little tweaking required to make it work with a headache rack though. Glass rear panel not recommended, as drilling required to secure snorkels. A lot of improvements here and there still needed to satisfy my requirements, but a pretty darn good machine. New exhaust is pretty quiet. Nice, like it. Easier to remove. And stainless too. Less ugly rust. Very easy to work on. Lots of access around major components. Parking brake would of been nice too. I tend to park in weird inclined areas doing trail work. Easy fix for me as I've made four parking brakes so far, but still, a factory system is nice. Clutching seemed very smooth. Engaged at a low rpm. Great for creeping along without the herky jerky. The bed size is great. Love it. Removable sides, glad for the option. Probably won't use it. But it's there. So, maybe. Anyway. Great round up review. Thank you.
Glad you liked it, and that it lined up with your own experience. I am with you on a quicker steering rack. Can-Am said farmers and ranchers have said they like this over a quicker rack, but I think Can-Am should have them drive both and see. One nice thing with the air filter being in the back in front of the bed is that is not in the worst of the dust. We would love to see a picture if you modded one of these with MXR parts. I would think it would be a beast in the mud. Yes, I wish the parking brake was on the 6x6 like on the Defender Pro. I loved using that parking brake, and I hate putting pressure on the transmission when parking on an incline. Thanks for commenting and for watching.
I drive defenders on a daily basis. The one thing I don't like is that they clunk when you left off the gas and come to a stop then get on it, it clunks. The clunk is from the secondary. On the 2020s they changed the helix in the secondary. Did you notice a clunk when you took off from a stop?
I know the clunk you are talking about. Most of the time it seems to happen on year's past Defenders when going from forward to reverse or reverse to forward. I didn't notice it during our riding time when we made this video, but I wasn't looking for it either. Our 6x6 I will try to get an answer for you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Both the machines are big and I am short! Casey is 6'3" so you can definitely use that as a reference. The summary is they are large and in charge and will haul a bunch of stuff! Thank you for watching and for commenting.
I don't see why not. The framing of the door hasn't changed this year. I would checkout the accessories area for Defenders on Can-Am's website canamoffroad. Then choose the Defender 6x6 and see if it lists doors. I know they are not offering a 6x6 version from the factory with a Limited package, but I would think you can add them with official Can-Am doors yourself. I hope this helps. Let us know what you find. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
The one issue with the 6x6 is the lack of a turf mode. Like all they'd need to do is make the rears electronic lockers. I get it would require 3 but still. The pro or normal one for me, that 6x6 is just a hunting toy
Totally agree, and that is what Can-Am told us. Defender Pro for work and Defender 6x6 for ultimate traction. They said adding two unlocking rear diffs would run around $500. We think most people buying the 6x6 would pay it, and that Can-Am had a missed opportunity here. Most people will spend $500 on an LED light setup and unlocking diffs bring a lot more value than LED lights. We will see if Can-Am makes a change on this and adds that feature. Thanks for watching and for commenting.
When turning a vehicle with 2 or more rear axles, you get scrub from each. I do think when opting for the XT models, you get a power bed lift. Awesome machines.
The two in-line axles would still tear up a lawn when turning even if only one wheel driven. One axle or set of wheels would have to be lifted up, or have articulating axles to have a true turf mode. Also, the two axles will "push" you straight is in slippery conditions where the front wheels may tend to slide. That's really the only time I need to engage the front axle drive is when tight turning in muddy conditions. On normal surfaces this "pushing" is never a problem.
@@r.griffin7941 besides necroing a 2 year old comment, ive seen people take the diffs of off regular ones and put them on here for turf mode and it works just fine, but it has to be done aftermarket which makes it cost way more than if it was done oem. Its dumb and just can-am being cucks
Chris Golden sorry to ruin RUclips for you 😏. We can only work with the time we have. Don’t worry though we have more detailed stuff coming. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Like your "after action" debreif on both rigs. A little different than the usual "canned" reviews on products.
Did a mini demo ride this past weekend in the 6x6.
Have to agree on the steering input feed to reply ratio. A little better ratio would be nice. Turning radius was pretty good for a big machine. But really turns up the ground in a tight turn with the rear locked axles. No turning on the lawn please.
Engine breaking on hills could be more aggressive for my needs.
I talked with the dealer I was at about snorkeling this rig. Very dusty where I would be using this. When it's not, it gets pretty muddy. Very doable using MXR parts. A little tweaking required to make it work with a headache rack though. Glass rear panel not recommended, as drilling required to secure snorkels.
A lot of improvements here and there still needed to satisfy my requirements, but a pretty darn good machine.
New exhaust is pretty quiet. Nice, like it. Easier to remove. And stainless too. Less ugly rust.
Very easy to work on. Lots of access around major components.
Parking brake would of been nice too. I tend to park in weird inclined areas doing trail work.
Easy fix for me as I've made four parking brakes so far, but still, a factory system is nice.
Clutching seemed very smooth. Engaged at a low rpm. Great for creeping along without the herky jerky.
The bed size is great. Love it. Removable sides, glad for the option. Probably won't use it. But it's there. So, maybe.
Anyway. Great round up review.
Thank you.
Glad you liked it, and that it lined up with your own experience. I am with you on a quicker steering rack. Can-Am said farmers and ranchers have said they like this over a quicker rack, but I think Can-Am should have them drive both and see. One nice thing with the air filter being in the back in front of the bed is that is not in the worst of the dust. We would love to see a picture if you modded one of these with MXR parts. I would think it would be a beast in the mud. Yes, I wish the parking brake was on the 6x6 like on the Defender Pro. I loved using that parking brake, and I hate putting pressure on the transmission when parking on an incline. Thanks for commenting and for watching.
I drive defenders on a daily basis. The one thing I don't like is that they clunk when you left off the gas and come to a stop then get on it, it clunks. The clunk is from the secondary. On the 2020s they changed the helix in the secondary. Did you notice a clunk when you took off from a stop?
I know the clunk you are talking about. Most of the time it seems to happen on year's past Defenders when going from forward to reverse or reverse to forward. I didn't notice it during our riding time when we made this video, but I wasn't looking for it either. Our 6x6 I will try to get an answer for you. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@atvescape Thanks
Either these machines are huge or you are short? I can't wait to see this machine in person.
Both the machines are big and I am short! Casey is 6'3" so you can definitely use that as a reference. The summary is they are large and in charge and will haul a bunch of stuff! Thank you for watching and for commenting.
It's not you guys it is RUclips that is the problem I enjoy the video
Can HARD FULL DOORS be added on the 6x6 the reason I ask is I see them for the 4x4 but nothing for the 6x6
I don't see why not. The framing of the door hasn't changed this year. I would checkout the accessories area for Defenders on Can-Am's website canamoffroad. Then choose the Defender 6x6 and see if it lists doors. I know they are not offering a 6x6 version from the factory with a Limited package, but I would think you can add them with official Can-Am doors yourself. I hope this helps. Let us know what you find. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
The one issue with the 6x6 is the lack of a turf mode. Like all they'd need to do is make the rears electronic lockers. I get it would require 3 but still. The pro or normal one for me, that 6x6 is just a hunting toy
Totally agree, and that is what Can-Am told us. Defender Pro for work and Defender 6x6 for ultimate traction. They said adding two unlocking rear diffs would run around $500. We think most people buying the 6x6 would pay it, and that Can-Am had a missed opportunity here. Most people will spend $500 on an LED light setup and unlocking diffs bring a lot more value than LED lights. We will see if Can-Am makes a change on this and adds that feature. Thanks for watching and for commenting.
@@atvescape yep 100%. These already cost like 25k, so them not adding unlocking diffs for 500 dollars is just cheaping out.
When turning a vehicle with 2 or more rear axles, you get scrub from each. I do think when opting for the XT models, you get a power bed lift. Awesome machines.
The two in-line axles would still tear up a lawn when turning even if only one wheel driven. One axle or set of wheels would have to be lifted up, or have articulating axles to have a true turf mode.
Also, the two axles will "push" you straight is in slippery conditions where the front wheels may tend to slide. That's really the only time I need to engage the front axle drive is when tight turning in muddy conditions. On normal surfaces this "pushing" is never a problem.
@@r.griffin7941 besides necroing a 2 year old comment, ive seen people take the diffs of off regular ones and put them on here for turf mode and it works just fine, but it has to be done aftermarket which makes it cost way more than if it was done oem. Its dumb and just can-am being cucks
RUclips has become garbage
Chris Golden sorry to ruin RUclips for you 😏. We can only work with the time we have. Don’t worry though we have more detailed stuff coming. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍