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Yea that sucks and it’s not hard to look up hand signals most commonly used in dance battles. I would think Wooyoung? Would know the signals since he apparently did street dancing at one point but he didn’t mention anything.
But thankfully Mbitious crew know now how SMF goes. Pyongya and Hoya did well with the next level. It’s just sad that 5000 was defeated many times because of wrong judgment tss
Street dancers, coreographers had to fill the judge's seats, not only idol dancers. Yeah, they are talented and recognized in kbiz but are not able to be judges in a street dance competition. Mnet presents this show as a dance competition but in fact, the judges fit more a regular idol survival show. At least one of them, had to be a pure dancer.
My sincerest hope is that the Korean public recognises his talent. Under the battle with Hyunse the comments where overwhelmingly supportive of him but it would honestly break my heart if his home country stays blind to his miraculous skills, mindblowing talent and humble personality 💔
I read some of the Korean comments there. People were supporting Ocheon as well! His talent is recognized in his home country, people love him so there's no need to worry💖
This is what i want everyone to notice in his dance, thanks for making this video. It look likes he knows all the song, he doesn't just dance, he tried to feel and exposed the music, the lyrics in his dance, that's why I like him more than others. Especially like him when he sing the lyrics while dancing
what's even more mesmerizing about him is that he's so calm and cool all the time 😭 it's like the feeling how they are all insignificant/inferior to him in every aspect and i cant agree enough. at this rate, i believe he was just there as a dance god to entertain mnet fake storyline lol. he's so cool and i'm falling in love with his simple manner yet amazing dance ability
He knows he is good at freestyle battle like this. Compared to the other member in his crew, he is have better techniques, skills, and experience. You know that half Mbitious' member are more like a choreographer than battler. On top of that, the opponents they need to face are tough af. 5000 is a DJ too, so he knows all music, and those affected his musicality in dancing. He is definitely a genius. But yes fucc the judges didn't realize the hidden meaning and detail he poured on his moves. As far as i idolize BoA, Eunhyuk, and Wooyoung, i really want to curses them 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 Ps. I'm an Elf and i adore BoA so much since i was still elementary school. I also love 2PM but cannot called myself as a fan since i'm only a basic listener to their music. This is the first criticism that i ever give to my fav idols lol. I'm this angry
I'm not a dancer but i can see he is a genius dancer. I saw him for the very 1st time from The Mbitious. He seemed to know every song played, every beat and even the catchy part of each songs. I love his move! I understand why he won many dance battle. And i also agree from some of the comments that the SMF judges don't suit this show. SMF should've picked those who really really know what this program is all about. That's the only flaw i see from SMF.
Thanks for this video. I couldn’t understand some of the judges judgement everytime 5000 battled. He is truly a genius and I’m happy you guys broke this video down and explained everything
I seriously kind of understood why boa was the judge during SWF, it was a new show, new concept and BOA is known for being a legendary idol dancer .. the clout and attention. But in SWF the dancers pulled it, I can barely remember boa and taeyong’s presence in the show. BUT IN SMF… do we really need them? DO WE REALLY NEED BOA and the show ADDED TWO MORE IDOL JUDGES? I know idols are good dancers but THE FIELD OF EXPERTISE IS DIFFERENT! Idols don’t solely focus on dance and are kind of unaware on the street styles.
I'm not even a dancer, I'm just a person who enjoys seeing someone dance, but I really know that 5000 didn't deserve to lose in the battle with Hyunsay. His details are also crazy
In the interview when 5000 said that he lost more battles that day than his 7 years... Just proved the judges needs some review. Bring in judges who do the same battles to make it more legit. Like Jay Park said SMF is 80% drama and 20% dance
I'm not a dancer, I don't know anything about dancing techniques, but in my opinion a great dancer is not only seen by how good the movements and techniques he uses in dancing but how he presents every detail in a song (lyrics, beats, and sounds) into his every dance move. And that's 5000, from the first time I saw him dancing on the program The Mbitious I've started to fall in love with every detail of his movements, simple and I think makes everyone who watches enjoy the song. His simple manner so amazing! Thankyou so much for make this video!
they judge on facial expression not on the dance. like duh! it's a street DANCE you know, not a facial expression! tsssssk! Hope they can replace the judges; they don't know how to judges correctly even the sign battle is they didn't know what the meaning of it is.
Someone should show this to Boa, Eunhyuk, ..Mnet.., Out of the three judges, Woooung's the only the who seemed even a little qualified to really judge these legends. The other two seem to know very little about musical expression. What 5000 did vs Hyunse was fking beautiful, the way his body moved to every note. I couldn't help but be angry with the results >:(
Absolutely that's on ma mind.. I think on street dance, 5000 killed that. 👍👍 He's genius. But the judges.. 🤷♂️🤷♂️ He killed the music, vocal n rithm.
Yooo.. I'm speechless on how good 5000 in dancing like.. he is literally genius though. But ofc the judges will not understand this bcause they are not a dancer and just an idol who held main dance title. It's such a shame to see a talented person like 5000 lose just bcause the opponent got more hype while 5000 have more insane techniques. Mnet should change the judges though
Thank you so much for making this video! 5000's skills and musicality are unmatched in battles and til today it makes me so mad that he lost those in ep1 (esp with Hyunse, that made NO sense). Hope he gets a redemption battle arc in the coming episodes so people appreciate him more!
this, judges should be someone that understands and familiar with all this street battle thing not just someone doing dance.. Not saying the judges not good but it's street man fighter then someone that got recognition in street dance and battles should be the one that judging, at least one out of three should be an active street dancers
Totally agree..5000 the best. I admire him . Dance and music in point, he understand music and translate it into dance. i just know him when watching be mbitious and fall in love automatically at the first sight.huu. Then started to watch his dance video and superbbb...respect!!!
Oh snappp now i see why 5000 is on another level, i just wonder why he just losing when ALL dance saying he to good. Now i see the reason, his body is like a wave catching the wind.
I'm now fans of 5000. But you have to know also.. it's the consequence being in competitions in SMF which is held by MNet. Of course maybe they have to put senior street dancer fighter to be the judges... but yerobun.. all of them are contestants. So... from this show.. the dancers have advantage to be known and gain fans. It's not about who win or not. You can see... despite 5000 loses a lot.. but he gains fandom. It happens in SWF too. Of course all... contestans have already agreed they will be examined by idols. Don't blame the judges But really thank you for your video...
Also that one YGX battle team with Mbitious, YGX member touch 5000 nose or something, it should be a minus, but the judge dont give a damn, lol I love idol, iam SM STAN, but I'm not blind
The problem for smf because the judges is not good enough to judge. Yes, for kpop idol, they should judge but this program is full of professional dancer. They should bring others senior professional dancer rather than senior kpop idol. The dancers are much better in dancing than the judges😂
One of MVP Dancer said 5000 is a DJ. So he knows lots of songs. I am nit a dancer so I agree with judge choices but after watch reaction from dancers I changed my mind. 5000 all the way. I am sure he was confised why he didn’t win most of battles!
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The judge wasn't in the right place they should have brought someone who at least dances idk if you understand how so let me give an example (street dance of china) they have idols or actors who actually dance or know something about it and so many dancers from all over and the show had me learning and enjoying street dancing
Up until now I dont understand why SWF & SMF got idols as judges? The dancers for sure got more experience compared to them. I love kpop but nah this is quite something mnet shouldn’t do at all. Irl the dancers create the dance for idols ✌🏼
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When the judges do not know and recognize the most common signs used during street battles, street dancers will be at a disadvantage.
Yea that sucks and it’s not hard to look up hand signals most commonly used in dance battles. I would think Wooyoung? Would know the signals since he apparently did street dancing at one point but he didn’t mention anything.
@@lizroman14 maybe he already forgot? He's been an idol for years and I think he hasn't battled since he became an idol.
@@rubygamad4431 ohh that’s true
judges are stupids
But thankfully Mbitious crew know now how SMF goes. Pyongya and Hoya did well with the next level. It’s just sad that 5000 was defeated many times because of wrong judgment tss
Street dancers, coreographers had to fill the judge's seats, not only idol dancers. Yeah, they are talented and recognized in kbiz but are not able to be judges in a street dance competition. Mnet presents this show as a dance competition but in fact, the judges fit more a regular idol survival show.
At least one of them, had to be a pure dancer.
I highly agree with this
👍agree
I still hold this word like what u write this... so agree with u too
AGREEEEE!!!
UGH PLS WE NEED PRO DANCERS AS JUDGE, NOT IDOLS
My sincerest hope is that the Korean public recognises his talent. Under the battle with Hyunse the comments where overwhelmingly supportive of him but it would honestly break my heart if his home country stays blind to his miraculous skills, mindblowing talent and humble personality 💔
Yes 5000 he is really humble. I want to have big brother like him!
I read some of the Korean comments there. People were supporting Ocheon as well! His talent is recognized in his home country, people love him so there's no need to worry💖
he's always on the trendlist every week so I'm pretty sure he is loved by knetz
Bro he's already acknowledged in Korea what are u talking abt. The video u just watched are Koreans talking about how good he is lmao.
if you read korean comments under that video, they also suppurted 5000 and asked the judges criteria for winner
The judges in SMF doesnt really know what they are talking about, They are just basing on the hype that they are seeing
This^^
Or if it’s funny
yesss agree with you
True
IKR
I got so mad when all the judges had the same card when they showed the result of all 5000 battles. Honestly, something is wrong with them.
This is what i want everyone to notice in his dance, thanks for making this video. It look likes he knows all the song, he doesn't just dance, he tried to feel and exposed the music, the lyrics in his dance, that's why I like him more than others. Especially like him when he sing the lyrics while dancing
Me too i love he so much
what's even more mesmerizing about him is that he's so calm and cool all the time 😭 it's like the feeling how they are all insignificant/inferior to him in every aspect and i cant agree enough. at this rate, i believe he was just there as a dance god to entertain mnet fake storyline lol. he's so cool and i'm falling in love with his simple manner yet amazing dance ability
He knows he is good at freestyle battle like this. Compared to the other member in his crew, he is have better techniques, skills, and experience. You know that half Mbitious' member are more like a choreographer than battler. On top of that, the opponents they need to face are tough af. 5000 is a DJ too, so he knows all music, and those affected his musicality in dancing. He is definitely a genius. But yes fucc the judges didn't realize the hidden meaning and detail he poured on his moves. As far as i idolize BoA, Eunhyuk, and Wooyoung, i really want to curses them 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
Ps. I'm an Elf and i adore BoA so much since i was still elementary school. I also love 2PM but cannot called myself as a fan since i'm only a basic listener to their music. This is the first criticism that i ever give to my fav idols lol. I'm this angry
I'm not a dancer but i can see he is a genius dancer. I saw him for the very 1st time from The Mbitious. He seemed to know every song played, every beat and even the catchy part of each songs. I love his move! I understand why he won many dance battle. And i also agree from some of the comments that the SMF judges don't suit this show. SMF should've picked those who really really know what this program is all about. That's the only flaw i see from SMF.
Thanks for this video. I couldn’t understand some of the judges judgement everytime 5000 battled. He is truly a genius and I’m happy you guys broke this video down and explained everything
You can watch their whole review, links are on the description box. 😊
I seriously kind of understood why boa was the judge during SWF, it was a new show, new concept and BOA is known for being a legendary idol dancer .. the clout and attention. But in SWF the dancers pulled it, I can barely remember boa and taeyong’s presence in the show. BUT IN SMF… do we really need them? DO WE REALLY NEED BOA and the show ADDED TWO MORE IDOL JUDGES?
I know idols are good dancers but THE FIELD OF EXPERTISE IS DIFFERENT! Idols don’t solely focus on dance and are kind of unaware on the street styles.
I'm not even a dancer, I'm just a person who enjoys seeing someone dance, but I really know that 5000 didn't deserve to lose in the battle with Hyunsay. His details are also crazy
In the interview when 5000 said that he lost more battles that day than his 7 years... Just proved the judges needs some review. Bring in judges who do the same battles to make it more legit. Like Jay Park said SMF is 80% drama and 20% dance
I knew it doesn't make sense that hyunse beat him just because 5000 was on a lot of pressure
They should've made the swf as judges for smf just like the be mbitious program
If only the judges understood 5000 like everybody fking else in the audience did
I'm not a dancer, I don't know anything about dancing techniques, but in my opinion a great dancer is not only seen by how good the movements and techniques he uses in dancing but how he presents every detail in a song (lyrics, beats, and sounds) into his every dance move.
And that's 5000, from the first time I saw him dancing on the program The Mbitious I've started to fall in love with every detail of his movements, simple and I think makes everyone who watches enjoy the song.
His simple manner so amazing!
Thankyou so much for make this video!
5000's talent always amazed us.
Finally professional judges come and give review.. 5000 don't need to join smf. He already legend.. he already won 50 single battle..
THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE TRENDING!
Actually i stop watching SMF after eps 2 come out, and this video just make me know that my desecion is right
Pls continue watching and support mbitious 🥺 They’re really doing well despite the “evaluation” from judges ♥️
@@selenechoi5 the judges are useless, I'm so annoyed with this dance show, is this joke always played by old idols
We need more of these reviews which is made by people who understand.
the person talking on the video is more qualified to judge than the judges lol
I hope the judges watch this video 🤪
I dont think so🤣🤣🤣
Oh! mizo Mbitious fan
they judge on facial expression not on the dance. like duh! it's a street DANCE you know, not a facial expression! tsssssk! Hope they can replace the judges; they don't know how to judges correctly even the sign battle is they didn't know what the meaning of it is.
5000 should've won his 1vs1 battles in SMF tbh
He also did the gesture for copying during the two on two battle but it wasn’t brought up in the episode
Thats right
never thought i'd fall for someone's dance ocheon is just amazing 💖
I really admire him, he is so humble and talented
The judges is idol judge they NOT the street dancer judge. Please take the professional judge for this show.
Someone should show this to Boa, Eunhyuk, ..Mnet.., Out of the three judges, Woooung's the only the who seemed even a little qualified to really judge these legends. The other two seem to know very little about musical expression. What 5000 did vs Hyunse was fking beautiful, the way his body moved to every note. I couldn't help but be angry with the results >:(
Absolutely that's on ma mind.. I think on street dance, 5000 killed that. 👍👍
He's genius. But the judges.. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
He killed the music, vocal n rithm.
Yooo.. I'm speechless on how good 5000 in dancing like.. he is literally genius though. But ofc the judges will not understand this bcause they are not a dancer and just an idol who held main dance title. It's such a shame to see a talented person like 5000 lose just bcause the opponent got more hype while 5000 have more insane techniques. Mnet should change the judges though
Thank you for this! The judges didn’t recognize his talent. I really hope they also have a technical battler judge in the show.
Thank you so much for making this video! 5000's skills and musicality are unmatched in battles and til today it makes me so mad that he lost those in ep1 (esp with Hyunse, that made NO sense). Hope he gets a redemption battle arc in the coming episodes so people appreciate him more!
this, judges should be someone that understands and familiar with all this street battle thing not just someone doing dance.. Not saying the judges not good but it's street man fighter then someone that got recognition in street dance and battles should be the one that judging, at least one out of three should be an active street dancers
Totally agree..5000 the best. I admire him . Dance and music in point, he understand music and translate it into dance. i just know him when watching be mbitious and fall in love automatically at the first sight.huu. Then started to watch his dance video and superbbb...respect!!!
mnet must hire this guy to be a judge of smf. he knows how a street dance battle works
CAN NETIZEN MAKE THIS VIDEO UP IN KOREA?? SO THE JUDGE SMF COULD SEE THIS AS WELL OR MNET PRODUCER
the way i was actually furious when he was so robbed in every single battle!!!!! my guy is a genius is battles and he kept on losing? pls i was pissed
Oh snappp now i see why 5000 is on another level, i just wonder why he just losing when ALL dance saying he to good. Now i see the reason, his body is like a wave catching the wind.
Seriously 5000 is so handsome 🥺❤️
It would be fair if there was 2 street dancers/choreographer and one idol but 3 idols as judges is beyond unfair
When everyone else know how well 5000 did and doesn't really care about the result. 5000 won not the votes of mnets judges but millions of people.
I'm now fans of 5000. But you have to know also.. it's the consequence being in competitions in SMF which is held by MNet. Of course maybe they have to put senior street dancer fighter to be the judges... but yerobun.. all of them are contestants. So... from this show.. the dancers have advantage to be known and gain fans. It's not about who win or not. You can see... despite 5000 loses a lot.. but he gains fandom. It happens in SWF too. Of course all... contestans have already agreed they will be examined by idols. Don't blame the judges
But really thank you for your video...
howon also know how we talked about ocheon's musicality/music quality and mentioned it in his recent ig story 😂🤡
5000 Amazing guys...,the best
they should at least have some street dancers as judges , idol judges lol
Feel so bad for him in the first round though his dancing skill is unbelievable 😅 i’m rooting for him for sure 👊
This dance review got flagged and his account was deleted its so sad how he got hate telling the truth
I just SMF should have different judges in every battle..
5000 is a genius
Hope the judges watch this video
ayaaa MNET didnt learn their mistake in SWF.... idols judging them?
I think the judges only judging by cheerings ,lol 😂
when the judges doen't have any credibility 😂😂😂
Also that one YGX battle team with Mbitious, YGX member touch 5000 nose or something, it should be a minus, but the judge dont give a damn, lol
I love idol, iam SM STAN, but I'm not blind
Explained really vell ❤
You can watch their whole review, links are on the description box. 😊
he’s also a DJ that’s what makes him even more dangerous, man knows every song that was being played.
Because the judges are just A PART OF IDOL GROUP
The first guy should be the real judge. What's his youtube channel?
Hiii full vid is on the description box, you can check his channel there, he reviews a lot of smf battles and performances :)
@@selenechoi5 ty
This program requires a judge who is competent and can see the details of the movement to judge these street dancers.
judges need see this!! still cant believe 5000 lose in second battle! 😭😭😭😭 still really hurt me 💔
5000 will ever be so calm and cool! If only the judges know how to judge street dancers like.😅
The problem for smf because the judges is not good enough to judge. Yes, for kpop idol, they should judge but this program is full of professional dancer. They should bring others senior professional dancer rather than senior kpop idol. The dancers are much better in dancing than the judges😂
I actuall thought possibly non natives( not Korean) see dance differently but this proves the opposite
Actually when he hushes the crowd I thought the lyrics say "HUSH" and then the shiiuuunggg
오천님 춤 잘춘다고 봤지만 평가 듣고 다시보니까 더 잘보이네요.
The judged need watch this to know how see for musicality. Especially BOA
smf judges must watch this reviews to learn lol
i love 5000 so muccchhhh,,,he know what he doing,,and i love it,,,
One of MVP Dancer said 5000 is a DJ. So he knows lots of songs. I am nit a dancer so I agree with judge choices but after watch reaction from dancers I changed my mind. 5000 all the way. I am sure he was confised why he didn’t win most of battles!
I nedd petition to BoA dance battle with 5000 HAHAH. cause i think she was expert tho? Basic for her comment
This video should go viral
I'm sad😭 I HATE the judges of the SMF frr😭
they should really change the judges it's a pity to watch great choreography or battle go waste judges didn't even recognize 5000 hand gestures lol
리뷰보고 다시 오천춤을 보니 더 잘 보이고 감탄이 10배가 되네요 역시 오천은 갓승훈❤️
When the judges are not professional dancers, is a nightmare for the contestants.
Yang penting heboh dan dancenya sama bisa ngambil suasana kalo jugdenya di smd tuh padhal 5000 tekniknya bagus bnget wkwk
bener, disini tehnik musiquality ga guna wkwk cukup salto² goyangin dada pantat muterin panggung naik² kursi udah menang wkwk aneh
kayaknya mas-mas yg bikin reaction di video nangkep & ngerti lebih banyak dari tekniknya si goceng daripada juri2 SMF
kayaknya mas-mas yg bikin reaction di video nangkep & ngerti lebih banyak dari tekniknya si goceng daripada juri2 SMF
Should sent a freakin message to MNet that the judges sucks
How come he knows all the songs this guy is so🔥🔥🔥
Mbitious fighting 🤭
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the judges are the problm there
Wahh thank you ocheon for teaching us about dance battle.
Does anyone know if the judges are getting some criticism at least in Korea?
I really want to know too.
Yes. 5000 was in an interview with Aiki as Host and they mentioned that
@@pixiedust8397 can u send me that link of the video?
@@pixiedust8397 I would also like a link to it please
Hello! This is the what I'm talking about.
ruclips.net/video/xO0j6S247U8/видео.html
It has ENG Sub. And they talked about the judges on 7:55
Please share your thoughts after you watched it :)
He's built different
The judge wasn't in the right place they should have brought someone who at least dances idk if you understand how so let me give an example (street dance of china) they have idols or actors who actually dance or know something about it and so many dancers from all over and the show had me learning and enjoying street dancing
Love 5000
Bruh you could have been a judge and given a much fairer judgment than that current panel.
5000 is totally a genius!
love love love your videos!!!! 5000 ftw
awww thank you!
i think you deserve the judges seat more than them.. omy smf come on.
Seriously, change the unqualified judges. Booooooo~~ I can barely remember the judges
Literally he is a genius 😀❤️
up this review people
God ocheon😌
Up until now I dont understand why SWF & SMF got idols as judges? The dancers for sure got more experience compared to them. I love kpop but nah this is quite something mnet shouldn’t do at all. Irl the dancers create the dance for idols ✌🏼
다른 크리에이터의 영상을 이렇게 올려도 되는지 모르겠네요...영어 자막만 추가하고 중간에 편집한 거 작업이긴 하지만 남의 다 된 밥에 숟가락 얹힌 거 적절한 행위인지 모르겠네요.
아주 훌륭한 채널이네요
Itu kenapa yang jadi juri seharusnya memang penari senior yg sangat paham tentang tarian. Bukan idol 🤣🤣
what trix song he used?
🎉🎉🎉