Goten and Trunks' CONFUSING Age EXPLAINED! - Dragon Ball Z

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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    In this video, I’ll be covering Goten and Trunks, but not only their ages. You see, a big controversy over the course of Dragon Ball Super was the lack of updating heights and designs for Goten and Trunks. So we will also be discussing their unchanging designs and heights - as well as why that may or may not make sense.
    After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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  • @kwezimashapa6425
    @kwezimashapa6425 4 года назад +1231

    Their age? Nah bro their physical appearance doesn't make sense.

    • @jruler93
      @jruler93 4 года назад +158

      Yeah, their ages are fine, it's just their aging (or rather lack thereof) that's stupid.

    • @doc_s1krr751
      @doc_s1krr751 4 года назад +44

      @@jruler93 way to say what OP said but in a different way

    • @quanturiaowens2643
      @quanturiaowens2643 4 года назад +46

      That's every DB kid character besides gohan

    • @adrianmikels3243
      @adrianmikels3243 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, doesn't make sense at all.

    • @jacolbyxbx6762
      @jacolbyxbx6762 4 года назад +3

      @@quanturiaowens2643 so 3/4 of the kid characters

  • @hollowshinobi1880
    @hollowshinobi1880 4 года назад +556

    I have a crushingly difficult one. The age of.... Mai.

    • @s4ug4t51
      @s4ug4t51 4 года назад +66

      Well she did say she was 45 years old to trunks in dbs

    • @ali-kun7038
      @ali-kun7038 4 года назад +58

      Why is mai a young woman in pilaf saga, but a kid in dbs?

    • @hollowshinobi1880
      @hollowshinobi1880 4 года назад +8

      @@s4ug4t51 when was this?

    • @hollowshinobi1880
      @hollowshinobi1880 4 года назад +18

      @@ali-kun7038 Toriyama logic XD

    • @s4ug4t51
      @s4ug4t51 4 года назад +8

      @@hollowshinobi1880 ok i was wrong she told it to bulma and she was 41 i watched that eposide that long ago i didn't remember here the link ruclips.net/video/Sjcrm-A9wKM/видео.html

  • @gotem_snot
    @gotem_snot 4 года назад +298

    6:41 he even has a neck now

  • @Brizz-rc2wf
    @Brizz-rc2wf 4 года назад +322

    I’m gonna just be honest, I want you to do all the db characters

    • @IAmMureeja
      @IAmMureeja 4 года назад +1

      TheLegendOf Brian to be honest.

    • @altreon3608
      @altreon3608 4 года назад +3

      *the age of frieza*

    • @mangetout8525
      @mangetout8525 2 года назад

      @JHONNY TAUANUU how about zarbon and dodoria, they never aged

    • @Ditto.007
      @Ditto.007 Год назад +2

      You guys complaining about Trunks and Goten not ageing, I watch pokemon and I think u know where this is going
      ASH YOU HAVE BEEN 10 YEARS OLD FOR 25 YEARS AGE U CLOWN AGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 4 года назад +374

    There's no good reason for them to be that short at this point.

    • @adrianmikels3243
      @adrianmikels3243 4 года назад +44

      Exactly. Toriyama is so annoying

    • @revolvingworld2676
      @revolvingworld2676 4 года назад +55

      Fans cant keep pulling the sayain DNA shit forever. And theyy can explain away goten being a midget like Krillen or a late bloomer but they cant do the same for Trunks.

    • @MeghanMt27
      @MeghanMt27 4 года назад +9

      Yeah it's werid Gohan aged maybe because Goten would look exactly goku so it would be confusing but they already showed Adult Trunks so make them older their like 15

    • @gergernzero6904
      @gergernzero6904 4 года назад +6

      @@revolvingworld2676 said that befor and they said some bs that ftrunks had to grow to battle and stuff and curent trunks has not. so acroding to them runing and fiting for you liffe with less food and so forth make you growm more then a peacfule life with good food and such... tould them that made no sence at all and they block me lol

    • @Zeronigel332
      @Zeronigel332 4 года назад +4

      Well Goku didn’t grow till he was 19 as he was 13 in dragonball and only developed after training with Kami
      *edit* Nevermind he explained it. Closest thing I can really say is that Goten might have taken a majority of Goku traits and as such has slower aging. There also could be that Goten body isn’t suppose to naturally grow that tall

  • @ultimateninja1704
    @ultimateninja1704 4 года назад +488

    It's funny how Bulla/Bra has actually grown a bit in the Broly movie, but not Goten and Trunks.

    • @crown926
      @crown926 4 года назад +30

      They like static characters but with height instead of personality. Heck, why not both.

    • @uco.7303
      @uco.7303 4 года назад +14

      Yeah. But goku in dragonball was a small guy for a long time....

    • @ultimateninja1704
      @ultimateninja1704 4 года назад +24

      @@uco.7303 How come Trunks is a lot taller in the future trunks special as a teenager considering current db at the moment is taking place in the year Future Gohan died?

    • @uco.7303
      @uco.7303 4 года назад +4

      @@ultimateninja1704 it doesn't take long to grow in one summer. People have massive growth spurts within 2 months sometimes. I grew like 5 inches after high school. With anime they can wiggle in a truth somehow tbh. It's not real life.

    • @crown926
      @crown926 4 года назад +17

      @@uco.7303 Your re right it isn't real life. It's Toriyama.

  • @overheaven8684
    @overheaven8684 3 года назад +300

    Future trunks at 13: Chad, muscular and tall boy who trained vigorously with Gohan to defeat the Androids
    Present Trunks: *child*

    • @The_favorite_Uncle
      @The_favorite_Uncle 2 года назад +21

      Thats Probably it. That environment forced Trunks to develop earlier. Bc he was in an apocalyptic war time line and had to defend himself. Just like real life the more you use your muscles. The better nutrition you have your more likely to grow bigger and taller

    • @theasia5223
      @theasia5223 2 года назад +1

      Inr, things are so much differently done in super, things that I wish stayed the same and some I guess had to happen. This is one of the things that should have stayed the same.

    • @phoenix5054
      @phoenix5054 2 года назад +13

      @@The_favorite_Uncle That doesn't make sense. Wars and hardship increases saiyan strength, not height.

    • @The_favorite_Uncle
      @The_favorite_Uncle 2 года назад

      @@phoenix5054 thats what I'm saying. U see i edited it. Cause I accidentally put Gohan

    • @SabeNo-rh7mb
      @SabeNo-rh7mb 2 года назад +1

      And if anything (as Masakox pointed out), their behavior at their current age shows in hindsight that both Chi-Chi and Bulma have clearly have gone wrong in their parenting somewhere. Because they're too old to still be acting like toddlers.

  • @wanttogetfood
    @wanttogetfood 4 года назад +85

    I say saiyans evolve like pokemon suddenly

  • @ice5525
    @ice5525 4 года назад +56

    “ look he even has a Neck now “ just the way he said it had me cry laughing 😂😂😂😂

  • @sponge1685
    @sponge1685 4 года назад +769

    Imagine being shorter then yourself lmao

    • @lydierayn
      @lydierayn 4 года назад +40

      Trunks can relate

    • @AetheriusAri
      @AetheriusAri 4 года назад +106

      "Is....is that ME? Is that me TALLER than me?!?! I'LL KILL ME!!!!!"

    • @lerambo499
      @lerambo499 4 года назад +2

      A C la cagaste

    • @MinkSignal
      @MinkSignal 4 года назад +3

      ​@@AetheriusAri Choice reference.

    • @yuvals5177
      @yuvals5177 4 года назад +2

      Hahaha lmaooo

  • @phelpsnodt5856
    @phelpsnodt5856 4 года назад +340

    DBS Trunks should already have the same appearance as 'Future Trunks in training'.
    The current Moro arc should be centered around them as well, instead of Goku and Vegeta, whom are way too strong. It feels extremely forced to pull even stronger new characters out of nowhere. If Trunks and Goten were the protagonists, it would make sense because they're still weak, have room for development.

    • @darrellsimon4462
      @darrellsimon4462 4 года назад +10

      Only thing is that i hope they don't just use them as body guards for 17's Island when they need to get more fire power

    • @darrellsimon4462
      @darrellsimon4462 4 года назад +29

      But yes i to agree that goku and vegeta got way too strong too fast, even Gohan as well, that was my main issue with super... I think they should have slowed down their progression, have them spend more time learning God ki... And have them learn about ssjgss through black, who would use rose against them while so far all they knew about was God. Then they would train to get blue

    • @AlexanderDiviFilius
      @AlexanderDiviFilius 4 года назад +24

      You can so easily have Goku and Vegeta training on Beerus' planet, and have some of the weaker characters get caught up in something with no way of contacting them. Have some coming of age story stuff for Goten and Trunks, maybe get some other characters involved too

    • @Dexuz
      @Dexuz 4 года назад +6

      Though Moro is not exactly "stronger" than Goku or Vegeta, and you should know that if you're following the manga.

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats 4 года назад +4

      Trunks and goten are not ready for a Moro level villian they wouldn't have the strength or experience. I can see some of the Z fighters getting stronger by being in the galactic patrol.

  • @redacted2497
    @redacted2497 4 года назад +86

    6:46
    Haha never realized goku just had a head

  • @londonps6751
    @londonps6751 4 года назад +94

    Goku and chi chi aged the same from dragon ball. Meanwhile goten is a 20 year old toddler

  • @Commanloveone1
    @Commanloveone1 4 года назад +115

    They'll have no other choice but to age them when they ubb into the ark

    • @youare5907
      @youare5907 4 года назад +2

      Comman not really they can retcon things as they please

    • @Commanloveone1
      @Commanloveone1 4 года назад +7

      Itll be smart for Goku and vegita to wish themselves back to a child state and train under whis or whoever in the time chamber

    • @NinjaSanji
      @NinjaSanji 4 года назад +3

      @@Commanloveone1 wives will be pissed

    • @Commanloveone1
      @Commanloveone1 4 года назад

      @@NinjaSanji they been recreating in a way some of GT content so they might aswell

    • @NinjaSanji
      @NinjaSanji 4 года назад

      @@Commanloveone1 what GT content?

  • @josephbedwell3164
    @josephbedwell3164 4 года назад +41

    Wait. Bulma was 16 when she met Goku. If anyone's age makes no sense, it's Bulma! How is she 38 when Goku is in his mid-late 40s? That should be interesting to explain.

    • @Kaytoun
      @Kaytoun 4 года назад +34

      Joseph Bedwell she lies about her age to seem younger lol.

    • @lxxdccvii3740
      @lxxdccvii3740 3 года назад +6

      Kaytoun hyperbolic time chamber

    • @vaper8824
      @vaper8824 3 года назад

      Thanos Bruh Fax

    • @georockmann7113
      @georockmann7113 3 года назад +8

      Didnt she say that she sometimes used the dragonballs to turn herself younger? Not sure tho

    • @lxxdccvii3740
      @lxxdccvii3740 3 года назад +1

      @Fabulous Fiona no I meant goku aged faster since he spent lots of time in there

  • @MidwinterKnight
    @MidwinterKnight 4 года назад +68

    So, in old Japanese culture everyone would celebrate "becoming one year older" on the same day, the start of the year. So, Goten is only 6 years and x months old at the time of the Tournament or he is "6 turning 7", but if using that old system he is "Going through his 7th year of life" or he is "7 years"
    That's the only way I could see this age problem making any sense.

    • @blake_has_cake
      @blake_has_cake Год назад +2

      This is a pretty good explanation thank you!

  • @keithkeller4546
    @keithkeller4546 4 года назад +64

    This one bugs me the most of all of them lol. It honestly bugs me even more after watching this than I thought it would. I mean, they already had a canon version for Trunks at this age and they just didn't use it? WTF is that? lol. Great videos and series, so thanks for doing these.

    • @hamazing913
      @hamazing913 4 года назад +14

      Because then they would have to age up goten and they're too lazy to do that because goten and trunks aren't popular characters and since Toei animation is full of cash grabbers they won't bother to make a new design

    • @justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097
      @justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097 4 года назад +6

      @@hamazing913 They could use the end of Z Goten design ...

    • @hamazing913
      @hamazing913 4 года назад +2

      @@justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097 I would rather they not he looks shabby and completely away from training
      I get that goten doesn't have to be a serious character but making him into a shitty teenager is just insulting

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 4 года назад +7

      @@hamazing913 but hes a literal redesign of goku.

    • @hamazing913
      @hamazing913 4 года назад

      @@BabyGirlTiny and I want that to change
      Why make his character even more boring in the first place?
      Maybe make him more like gon from hunter x hunter instead of making him a fifth goku

  • @OurKindofEntertainment
    @OurKindofEntertainment 4 года назад +6

    Just came across your channel a couple weeks ago and I LOVE it! You'll be at 100,000 subscribers in no time!

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  4 года назад +1

      Thanks!

    • @OurKindofEntertainment
      @OurKindofEntertainment 4 года назад

      Thank you! Keep up the awesome content :) Despite my channel subjects, I'm a big anime fan myself!

  • @fang8726
    @fang8726 4 года назад +6

    Another amazing one Carthu! I'm really loving this age series!

  • @dinodude722
    @dinodude722 4 года назад +8

    so... essentially the design team never really thought about updating goten and trunks' design, despite adjusting the years and such. to be fair, they havn't been major players at all and havn't gotten much focus. but still, keeping them looking like young kids implies less time passing then what actually has. honestly, the best way to show that time HAS passed would be to have goten and trunks look their age.
    i feel like either the writers/artists are being lazy and don't want to redesign them, OR they don't want to change the characters at all and are keeping them little kids for either comedy aspects or to keep it like Dragon Ball Z, despite the fact they should be teens by now.

  • @toby-wankanobi1385
    @toby-wankanobi1385 4 года назад +84

    The only interesting theory I've found to explain this is that Saiyans grow based on the environment they need to adapt to, like how future Trunks grew up in constant danger and had to fight for his life every day so his body evolved much faster, while Goten and Present trunks have had pretty posh lives. Still doesn't explain why they don't grow at all but still

    • @AstraFulminous
      @AstraFulminous 4 года назад +14

      Toby-Wan Kanobi if you think about it, it works with Future Gohan too

    • @toby-wankanobi1385
      @toby-wankanobi1385 4 года назад +12

      @quinton cornelius yeah that's what I think too, like sure he had hardships but nothing really hit him hard until the king piccolo and tao Pai things

    • @romerobert2981
      @romerobert2981 4 года назад +5

      Ok I see your point but if that's really the case goten and trunks still should have grown, they had faught buu twice and attained ss3 as gotenks. And yet they grew not a centimeter

    • @TollyKipper
      @TollyKipper 4 года назад +3

      @@romerobert2981 because that was a fusion. It has to be as individuals.

    • @romerobert2981
      @romerobert2981 4 года назад +11

      @@TollyKipper sounds like your own headcannon

  • @leannegalang792
    @leannegalang792 4 года назад +16

    Trunks look hella Younger on broly movie he look like six year's old

    • @thecensoredmuscle563
      @thecensoredmuscle563 3 года назад

      The old Broly movie was future trunks which was better and cooler.

  • @Gardetrace
    @Gardetrace 4 года назад +13

    Another way to show their aging makes no sense is with Marron. She isn't a Saiyan at all, so you can't even use the already flimsy excuse of Saiyan growth rates are different with her. The only reason Goten, Trunks, and Marron are suffering from Ash Ketchum Syndrome is because the writers don't find them important enough to keep updated and it shows all throughout Super. They can't even be bothered to make sure Future Trunks' hair color matches his younger counterpart for fuck's sake.

  • @vlonely_leo
    @vlonely_leo 4 года назад +32

    I feel that master Roshi age would be hard to do

    • @astolfo2305
      @astolfo2305 4 года назад +12

      roshi is over 300 year old

    • @revolvingworld2676
      @revolvingworld2676 4 года назад +8

      Roshi and his sister are immortal so he doesn't age or need to age.

    • @chrisschoenthaler5184
      @chrisschoenthaler5184 4 года назад +4

      GotHackedLeo Master Roshi is biologically immortal thanks to the phoenix. He will survive until he his killed... again... and not wished back this time.

  • @HogtreeOctovish
    @HogtreeOctovish 4 года назад +6

    Off topic, but on the subject of Saiyan hybrids, one thing I miss is Gohan's tail.
    Imagine how sweet it would've been if just before the Tournament of Power, when Vegeta first held Bulla, we saw a blue fuzzy tail wrap itself around Vegeta's arm.
    Just Saiyan.
    And yeah, I hope they re-introduce Tarble at some point.
    Maybe Vegeta can have him as a plus-one when he finally gets round to visiting Universe 6 Sadala.

  • @damienthewolf6413
    @damienthewolf6413 4 года назад +83

    Can you do Chi-Chi's age its wierd

    • @canogaparque818
      @canogaparque818 4 года назад +9

      Same age as goku with no deaths that is

    • @canogaparque818
      @canogaparque818 4 года назад +14

      @Andre Ricardo Bryant dbs just has shit writting
      Catered to lil kids that dont know shit

    • @jibrael5705
      @jibrael5705 4 года назад +2

      @@canogaparque818 Bitch please. DBS is Just as good if not better than DB DBGT AND DBZ.

    • @Kalinbuggs
      @Kalinbuggs 4 года назад +21

      Arrhum 2103 no no it’s not better than DB or DBZ please stop

    • @canogaparque818
      @canogaparque818 4 года назад +10

      @@jibrael5705 damn homie whos your plug?
      That shit you be smoking is fire👌🏼👍🏼

  • @rhysjonsmusic
    @rhysjonsmusic 4 года назад +8

    I think the main reason they haven't updated trunks design is that toriyama doesn't want people to get current trunk confused with future trunks (dispite the fact they are literally the same person).
    But yeah I would really love to see a more grown up goten trunks and gotenks

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 11 месяцев назад

      That’s why they changed future trunks’ hair color to blue though(to match Bulma). Present Trunks still has silver/purple hair.

    • @nelsonogodo8414
      @nelsonogodo8414 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@westonmeyer3110Too late present trunks has blue hair like future trunks now

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 10 месяцев назад

      @@nelsonogodo8414
      That is stupid

  • @Magic8ball976
    @Magic8ball976 4 года назад +8

    What you said about future trunks debunks any claims about people who say he shouldn’t age good job

  • @ShinCodeZero
    @ShinCodeZero 4 года назад +8

    7:45
    I couldnt stop laughing from 7:45
    Damn, two same individuals (different timeline) at a same age. But their heights are...wtf

  • @vraixen6252
    @vraixen6252 4 года назад +21

    They're 7 and 6 to me

  • @supersaiyanwarriorz6775
    @supersaiyanwarriorz6775 4 года назад +14

    Jesus Christ watching this video made me realise how close everything in Super is. In Z there were a few years between every main threat but in Super all they get is like a month or 2. What did the Z fighters do to deserve this lol.

    • @rolandodr98
      @rolandodr98 4 года назад +7

      MasakoX “MERCHANDISE”

    • @loooongneck
      @loooongneck 4 года назад +3

      They don’t have a lot of time between that end of Z moment and where they currently are so they’re condensing

    • @MrEffectfilms
      @MrEffectfilms 3 года назад +1

      Well nothing, but the only other option would be to just use the next generation, ala no Goku or Vegeta. And considering they are the most popular and beloved characters that's a big no no for the higher ups at Toei.

  • @zacharaymosley1315
    @zacharaymosley1315 Год назад +6

    Thank goodness Superhero fixed this.

  • @arielgalles2107
    @arielgalles2107 2 года назад +7

    I have a head canon that Saiyans grow progressively until they reach a certain height, then grow in massive spurts. Goku had his first growth spurt in the three years between Tenkaichi Budokais, then his second spurt while training with Kami. Gohan had his first spurt in the hyperbolic time chamber, then the second during the 7 year time skip. Trunks and Goten have yet to have their first spurt, and future Trunks aged faster as a defense mechanism due to being in constant danger.

    • @BananaMana69
      @BananaMana69 7 месяцев назад +1

      Gohan is noticeably taller on Namek then he was when Raditz kidnapped him tho.

  • @unnamed000006
    @unnamed000006 3 года назад +3

    Future Trunks and Kid Trunks looking different at the same age can be explained pretty easily. Everyone is under the assumption that Future and Kid Trunks are the same being, but most likely they are not. They have the same parents and name but their genetic makeup is most likely different. They are more like brothers that have the same name. My reason for thinking this is that because Future Trunks altered the timeline before he was conceived, that might have caused things to happen ever so slightly differently. This results in the date of the conception of Kid Trunks being different to Future Trunks, and that could mean that a different sperms fertilized and/or egg were involved in the process, meaning that Future Trunks and Kid Trunks are genetically different. This would help explain how Kid Trunks got SSJ to easily as a child and why their bodies grow at a different rate. We can even use that now they have canonically different hair colour as support for this explanation.

  • @theluchakabuto5206
    @theluchakabuto5206 4 года назад

    Really enjoying the content. very informative keep it up :]

  • @RealCGH
    @RealCGH 4 года назад +7

    It really doesn't take that much to change his appearance Toriyama💀

  • @Condescending_Absol
    @Condescending_Absol 4 года назад +3

    Maybe current time line Trunks was stunted when he trained with Vegeta in the gravity chamber
    His poor child spine, compacted

  • @chairya2
    @chairya2 4 года назад +53

    Vegeta once stated that saiyans age differently, so that they can preserve their bodys to be in prime state when needed.
    Goten and trunks (fusioned) where even a decent match against buu. maybe their biological need to grow their bodys into its next shape of age, has been stalled because they were in no need of any more power than they already had - keeping their growth preserved for a longer time so that their saiyan bodys may last longer overall.
    With future trunks having done less training, his body needed to grow further just to gain more power to stand up to all of the power around him. This caused him to age relatively fast.
    Or like with gohan - no training at all gave him a relatively normal aging process. But then all of a sudden his surroundings changed, he had to train to stay a decent match for the people around him and even then he couldnt do much against piccolo, freeza, the androids and even cell. But his body rapidly aged and turned into its teen form at the age of only 10/11.
    Saiyans bodys might age out if necessity, but also preserve their aging by not having any need to do so.

    • @gingergoldilocks1761
      @gingergoldilocks1761 3 года назад +4

      Oooo i like this oneee

    • @blu_rayx2844
      @blu_rayx2844 3 года назад +1

      Y dale con eso

    • @MrEffectfilms
      @MrEffectfilms 3 года назад +9

      The problem with this is that before Goku Saiyans never trained. They enjoyed fighting and getting stronger but training was something they just didn't do, it's why
      Vegeta was so shocked that Goku, who a year ago couldn't handle Raditz, is now strong enough to rival him. The idea that someone could get stronger through hard work and determination like that was a foreign concept to him. Which means that all Saiyans before Goku should have aged extremely slowly, since they were always out and about, yet we have no evidence of that happening.

    • @chairya2
      @chairya2 3 года назад +3

      @@MrEffectfilms they did go on rampaging tours across different planets all over space. So they did need some strength, wich might have been achieved trough their weird aging process. Like being stuck in one of their spacepods for a year or so to travel to a different planet, might have caused their bodys to preserve themselves.
      For instance, vegeta looked way younger than goku when he first arrived to earth, while he was actually ment to be older.
      No science here tough, i have to agree.

    • @jayb8934
      @jayb8934 2 года назад +6

      That's similar to my theory. In a nutshell, I think that maybe Saiyans reach physical maturity faster based on training and battles. Goten, Trunks, and even Goku didn't have the kind of training and battles that Gohan and Future Trunks did.
      Gohan, for example, way fighting and training with guys way above his power level from the age of 4. Goku trained and fought a lot as a kid, but with guys with power levels in the hundreds. Gohan and Future Trunks were fighting and training with guys with power levels in the millions! Goten and Present Trunks only seriously fought and trained at that level briefly to face Buu, and even then they relied mostly on fusion.

  • @OscinoFilms
    @OscinoFilms 4 года назад +6

    In conclusion, Toryama forgot

  • @TylerJ0412
    @TylerJ0412 4 года назад +8

    I dont know why but i bust out laughing when he said Goku has a neck now while comparing his height difference

  • @kgblackout1
    @kgblackout1 Год назад +4

    Super hero is going to make you maaaaaaaad

  • @KTChamberlain
    @KTChamberlain 4 года назад +4

    If Chichi was pregnant with Goten in either late 766 or early 767, why the hell didn't her pregnancy show? Throughout her entire appearance between Goku getting his heart virus and the Cell Games, she still had her slender frame. I may be a guy but even I know pregnancy should have shown by then.

    • @TheMegaGamingWizard
      @TheMegaGamingWizard 3 года назад

      I always assumed she got pregnant during the 9 day wait for the Cell games. I mean a lot can happen in 9 days....Go for 10.

  • @h3llboy__x281
    @h3llboy__x281 4 года назад

    Love your vids

  • @loisyt
    @loisyt 4 года назад +2

    I don't wanna give Toyotaro an excuse, but the case could be made that future Trunks and Gohan are both saiyans that were thrown (as most non hybrid saiyans are) into battlefield and harsh situations since a really young age and that's why they grew faster. Gotenks and present Trunks live a more pacific life compared to them and that's why they get to be in their kid state for a longer period of time. I seriously don't know, but that could be an half assed explanation.
    Great video btw.

  • @grelly_chan8401
    @grelly_chan8401 4 года назад +10

    Trunks should be looking like 13 year old future Trunks did in the special and Goten should gotten his hair cut and be taller

    • @adrianmikels3243
      @adrianmikels3243 4 года назад

      I agree with the 1st part but Goten's hair doesn't have anything to do with him growing

    • @s.boundless3163
      @s.boundless3163 4 года назад +4

      @@adrianmikels3243 I believe the OP made that statement because if Goten doesn't change his hairstyle he will look very similar to Goku. That would actually be an entertaining filler episode (and explain why Goten gets a hair cut).

    • @ali-kun7038
      @ali-kun7038 4 года назад +1

      @@s.boundless3163 i believe that he got a hair cut is because his friends kept mistaken him for goku.

    • @s.boundless3163
      @s.boundless3163 4 года назад +1

      @@ali-kun7038 Yeah you're right. I remember reading that in the manga now that you mention it.

    • @Shadowrulzalways
      @Shadowrulzalways 4 года назад

      Grelly_Chan Well Goku during the King Piccolo arc was 15 due to his 3 year training with Kami. And he looked the same. Only more fit than before. You have to remember, Saiyans don’t physically age like humans do. They can live longer than humans and have longer lasting youth.

  • @nickistired8831
    @nickistired8831 4 года назад +43

    Next video: Carthu's age makes no sense???

  • @gabrielparker3289
    @gabrielparker3289 4 года назад

    Well thanks a lot for also talking about Marion!!

  • @ChaosBlade315
    @ChaosBlade315 Год назад +3

    Good news from the future: they finally grew up, and it was only 2 years later

  • @J.o.e.l.5
    @J.o.e.l.5 3 года назад +3

    What makes no sense is why trunks’ hair looks different every time he goes ssj

  • @isaachonican4182
    @isaachonican4182 4 года назад +4

    Maybe since they got so strong and their muscles got so big it stunted their growth

    • @isaachonican4182
      @isaachonican4182 4 года назад

      Explain why gotten and trunks dont have tails

  • @Chironofolympus
    @Chironofolympus 4 года назад

    This is my most wanted video ever

  • @davidmoncholi6746
    @davidmoncholi6746 4 года назад

    Cool video

  • @Kevin_niyu
    @Kevin_niyu 4 года назад +32

    A serious Goten would be dope because Goten is so weak by himself

    • @thebossgames4314
      @thebossgames4314 4 года назад +10

      He's still stronger than tien

    • @lutherholayeahme7449
      @lutherholayeahme7449 4 года назад +2

      @@thebossgames4314 oof

    • @thebossgames4314
      @thebossgames4314 4 года назад +2

      @@lutherholayeahme7449 what?

    • @tyjones9864
      @tyjones9864 4 года назад +2

      That’s a weird thing to focus on since Trunks is barely even a smidge stronger.

    • @Kevin_niyu
      @Kevin_niyu 4 года назад

      Yeah but there is future trunks

  • @Ryan_Mythic
    @Ryan_Mythic 4 года назад +3

    Something im guessing people dont know is that the reason their appearances dont change is saiyans maintain their youthful look much longer than normal humans. Even half saiyans or whatever percentage keep this same trait

  • @shutupstupid5630
    @shutupstupid5630 4 года назад

    Nice, my topic got chosen.

  • @simeonfrantz2906
    @simeonfrantz2906 4 года назад

    Cool animation with your character

  • @tmg193
    @tmg193 4 года назад +3

    What’s more surprising about is that, theirs 2 kids that can give any living thing on earth them hands🤜🏾🌎🤕

  • @BasedKuuTooGourmet
    @BasedKuuTooGourmet 4 года назад +6

    Day one of asking for “What if Hercule had Saitama’s power in the cell games.”

    • @vapinglasagna5046
      @vapinglasagna5046 4 года назад

      wouldn't do jack shit and cell would destroy him

    • @boomparapara1804
      @boomparapara1804 4 года назад +1

      If i remember Saitama was a gag manga character,so was Arale.She was able to fight with super saiyan blue goku (surpressed obviously) the only person we have seen beat Arale,was Beerus,gods might be the only ones to fight wth gag manga characters

    • @boomparapara1804
      @boomparapara1804 4 года назад

      Mr satan probally will still lose cause it took years for saitama to get to that strength

    • @wilbertfleming8845
      @wilbertfleming8845 4 года назад

      @@boomparapara1804 no saitama is a parody character

    • @wesley5729
      @wesley5729 4 года назад

      Le Memerz saitama trained for 3 years straight to get to the point we see him in the series

  • @-timothe-
    @-timothe- 17 дней назад

    Very good video

  • @crown926
    @crown926 4 года назад +2

    Whens the stream streaming? 🍕

  • @JustSumNobody
    @JustSumNobody 4 года назад +4

    So chichi got knocked up before the cell / Android arcs... oof

  • @monkeyman12328
    @monkeyman12328 4 года назад +20

    Well Goku was didn’t get a growth spurt till after he was 16

    • @jruler93
      @jruler93 4 года назад +12

      He didn't get a growth spurt, but he did grow, whereas Goten and Present Trunks haven't.

    • @Killenberg
      @Killenberg 4 года назад +4

      He mentions that in the video. He did actually grow a bit.

    • @yvngn1ng3n14
      @yvngn1ng3n14 4 года назад +8

      Yet Future Trunks, who is the exact same as Present Trunks, looked older at 14 than Present Trunks does currently.

    • @kaisac.
      @kaisac. 4 года назад +1

      @@monkeyman12328 different timelines but they're the same person arguably present trunks should be taller since future trunk grew up in a post apocalyptic world getting destroyed

    • @youare5907
      @youare5907 4 года назад

      Andre Ricardo Bryant the dude is calling people cucks, do you honestly think he can... well think?

  • @rickrogan2355
    @rickrogan2355 Год назад +2

    Goku age 15 fights both tien and king piccolo. I'd say goten and trunks size is pretty consistent with early dragon ball.

  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous 4 года назад +1

    About the age thing, Goten could have been a premature birth. There's nothing saying Chi Chi couldn't have had him early.

  • @KeenanStyles
    @KeenanStyles 4 года назад +3

    Why Tien's looks have never changed even from the original dragonball?

  • @BumblebeeGage
    @BumblebeeGage 4 года назад +12

    Goku grew by maybe two inches, that’s kind of a stretch to say that debunks the whole argument

    • @simplyskrypt3914
      @simplyskrypt3914 4 года назад

      Plus his facial features and general body build didn't change at all
      Not until the piccolo jr saga

    • @jacolbyxbx6762
      @jacolbyxbx6762 4 года назад +2

      Okay but gohan

    • @user-sl6ou3qb9l
      @user-sl6ou3qb9l 4 года назад +2

      It pretty much does debunk that retarded argument dude
      Plus future trunks thing.....

    • @MrEffectfilms
      @MrEffectfilms 3 года назад

      No it pretty much debunks it. Remember that the people around Goku like Krillin also grew too and Goku not only kept up with them but actually got taller. Also Future Trunks aged normally, Gohan aged normally.

    • @BumblebeeGage
      @BumblebeeGage 3 года назад

      @@MrEffectfilms this dude really thought he was adding something by replying to a year-old comment 😐😐😐

  • @antarbenson9328
    @antarbenson9328 Год назад +1

    It's because Trunks saw Ho-oh on his first trip outside.

  • @pizzawolfer1947
    @pizzawolfer1947 Год назад +1

    I have 1 theory as to why future Trunks looks older than his present counterpart. Maybe young saiyans can age faster when necessary. Because of the state of the future timeline Trunk's body aged faster so he could reach his pinnacle as an effective fighter. Obviously there is no proof for such a claim but it's the best in-universe explanation I got.

  • @Sword_Man_YT
    @Sword_Man_YT 4 года назад +4

    Could you maybe cover Broly next?

    • @Sword_Man_YT
      @Sword_Man_YT 4 года назад

      146Zigzag Nothing, I would just like to know his age

    • @orion6397
      @orion6397 4 года назад

      @@Sword_Man_YT I'm pretty sure broly is the same age as vegeta

    • @SvpremeJay
      @SvpremeJay 4 года назад

      Oriongamerz no hes about gokus age

    • @xdxd9300
      @xdxd9300 3 года назад

      @@SvpremeJay about mid 40s

  • @Qekrzuv
    @Qekrzuv 4 года назад +10

    I have two theories:
    • Kid Trunks has a growth spurt on the way in ‘Dragon Ball Super’, as the main timeline’s Tournament of Power took place in the same year as Gohan’s death in Future Trunks’ timeline.
    • As stress can accelerate ageing, it’s possible that Future Trunks had his growth spurts early due to growing up in an apocalyptic war zone. Kid Trunks might just grow slowly the way Goku did, due to living in a carefree environment.

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 4 года назад

      The stress things omly ages your features. It doesn't make you taller

  • @fatwife2646
    @fatwife2646 4 года назад +2

    3:48 you forgot to change it to 776 which confused when you said another 2 years and went to 778.

  • @criixt
    @criixt 4 года назад +1

    And what no ones really talks about is future trunks knows how tall he was at the age of 14, why wasn't he surprised to see a 14 year old version of himself so tiny?

  • @c-jay2042
    @c-jay2042 4 года назад +10

    I hope they redesign gotens hair in super because I didn't like the way it looked in the end of dbz

    • @thebossgames4314
      @thebossgames4314 4 года назад

      Yeah I hope he gets the gt hair

    • @s.boundless3163
      @s.boundless3163 4 года назад +3

      @@thebossgames4314 Imo, the GT hair looked uninspired and too much like Gohan's. Now that I think about it, Vegeta, Gohan, and Goten basically had the same haircut in GT.

    • @thebossgames4314
      @thebossgames4314 4 года назад

      @@s.boundless3163 they didn't had the same hair and who gives a shit

    • @thebossgames4314
      @thebossgames4314 4 года назад

      @@s.boundless3163 and we're you tryna type lmao

    • @s.boundless3163
      @s.boundless3163 4 года назад +4

      @@thebossgames4314 You don't have to give a shit. Just saiyan it was basically the same hairstyle as Vegeta and Gohan. Only difference between Vegeta and Gohan was the hairline, Goten had a slanted version of Gohan's hair. But I do agree on changing his end of Z hairstyle, didn't really like it neither.

  • @Nick-4K
    @Nick-4K 4 года назад +6

    Perhaps the fusions they've done messed with their physical age.

    • @BrokeBot
      @BrokeBot 4 года назад +1

      I thought it was because trunks didn't have to train as hard as future trunks, so his body didn't adjust his height

    • @MrEffectfilms
      @MrEffectfilms 3 года назад

      @@BrokeBot except Gohan didn't train at all until he was 4, and took pretty long breaks too, like he didn't train at all the entire year Goku was gone following the Namek arc. But by the time Cell comes around the kid looks like he's 15 despite only being 11.

  • @bobgordon7113
    @bobgordon7113 4 года назад +1

    Goten and Trunks didn't change much because Toriyama admittedly says he doesn't fully remember everything before the Super series. He tried to give android 18 pink hair because he thought that was the color untill someone mentioned and questioned why. All the half sayians honestly have a lack luster story and character development of their own. Gohan went from being the strongest sayian to border line a meme before memes were a thing.

  • @mercideri1869
    @mercideri1869 4 года назад

    1:39
    love it

  • @wizdom2519
    @wizdom2519 4 года назад +4

    0:00 i heard his mouse clicking and him breathing before he says "hello everyone, I'm Carthu"

  • @chico4ezz365
    @chico4ezz365 4 года назад +7

    Make piccolo age please like if you all want piccolo

  • @bellowingsilence
    @bellowingsilence 2 года назад +1

    It’s really the lack of progress in the appearance that doesn’t make much sense. With Goku as a precedent, you can have them be at least 15 and still look basically like children, but you also have to at least make it clear that they look older. Kid Goku didn’t just sprout from his 12 year old self to his adult self at the end of Dragon Ball. They gave him a visible growth spurt in between all of that when you saw him at 15, where he was drawn much taller, with slightly different proportions that also benefited the changing tone for the fight sequences, and his face started to be drawn ever so slightly more mature. We’re being led to think Goten and Trunks are just going to sprout up to their adult looking teen selves in a matter of a few years at this point from the same height they were when they were like… 6 and 7, on top of the fact that Goten keeps visibly shrinking from time to time? That’s ridiculous.

  • @esecretlangel9130
    @esecretlangel9130 3 года назад +1

    To make things more confusing the Android’s attack on May 12th, the cell games are on May 26th, The World Martial Arts Tournament is always held on the May 7th. Meaning even if Goten’s birthday is May 7, Goku still should have been aware of Goten.

  • @thebean9149
    @thebean9149 4 года назад +3

    THEY ARE 12 WHY DO THEY ARE 6

  • @livelaughlovelev
    @livelaughlovelev 3 года назад +3

    The thing is, the dont technically change in physical appearance because they are half-saiyans. I'm sure if its the same as full-blooded saiyans, but it's at least half that. Saiyans lose their youth at 80, so half-saiyans would probably be about 50 or 60.
    Edit: Gohan was 9-11 when he got SSJ2 while he looked like 7 or 8.

  • @great159
    @great159 8 месяцев назад +1

    Goku grew a little bit when he was 15yrs old at the start of the 22nd Tournament against Tien. He grew a lot when he was 18yrs old for the 23rd Tournament against Piccolo Jr🤓

  • @baseformgoruto6514
    @baseformgoruto6514 4 года назад +2

    THATS WHAT I MEAN HOW COME GOHAN GROWN IN THE TIME CHAMBER BUT NOT THEM AND IT'S BEEN THROUGH Z TO SUPER

  • @michaelsong3733
    @michaelsong3733 4 года назад +4

    I dont think it matters DUE to how irrelevant the characters are.
    However if they do become Inportant, it would be more inportant

  • @schtoko
    @schtoko 4 года назад +4

    To be completely honest it’s fine because goku didn’t grow until the king piccolo ark and goku was 16! and then when goku became an adult then grew but also imagine being smaller than yourself.
    Edit: just finished watching and sos he said it but I just wanted to make it clear that this happened and goku did grow then when he was 19 grew waaaaaay more

  • @rawsomeawesome8281
    @rawsomeawesome8281 4 года назад +1

    This idea is crazy but you should do a what if goten was born in the future timeline

  • @XeroBuster
    @XeroBuster 4 года назад +2

    Why not retcon it by having an incident where master roshi was watching them and they consumed the herb that roshi uses to extend his life without knowing it or something like that

  • @fallscape1748
    @fallscape1748 4 года назад +3

    Hey...
    *YOU DON'T QUESTION ANIME LOGIC*

  • @clashroyaler3794
    @clashroyaler3794 4 года назад +3

    I’m done with this series, he said.
    Goku is the last one he said.
    Oh well.

    • @doc_s1krr751
      @doc_s1krr751 4 года назад

      He didn't say that? He said for individual ages

  • @supersonicjr3117
    @supersonicjr3117 4 года назад +1

    Carthusian dojo agree with you

  • @DualEyedMonty
    @DualEyedMonty Год назад +1

    Look clearly Trunks training in the gravity chamber with his dad stunted his growth lmao.

  • @justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097
    @justsomeshinychewtlewitham6097 4 года назад

    3:20 What if
    Gohan used the time chamber a bit to prepare Goten for as it seemed to Gohan that he was very competitive
    also another option is for Goten to be secretly born in the 3 years time skip (However Chi-Chi hides it to make sure he isn't trained to be a fighter)

  • @GreenMeansGOF
    @GreenMeansGOF 2 года назад +1

    Goten and Trunks age in DBS: Super Hero Confirmed!!!🥳

  • @Dr.PaiPai
    @Dr.PaiPai 4 месяца назад

    1:43 But the manga apparently says Goten was conceived in the week prior to the cell saga

  • @kevinsupercharger7488
    @kevinsupercharger7488 3 года назад +1

    A way for them to grow would be like in the buu arc, Goten and Trunks train in the hyperbolic time chamber for a few years (days in Earth) for them to vanquish Moro since Goku and Vegeta are nowhere to be seen.

  • @Void23321
    @Void23321 4 года назад +2

    Is anyone gonna talk about how baby Trunks was T-posing?

  • @darkdecidueye9628
    @darkdecidueye9628 4 года назад

    What is the timezone for the giveaway stream

  • @funnydepressive32
    @funnydepressive32 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video man! This has driven me nuts for the longest time, having a clear comparison between 2 versions of Trunks at the same age had me laughing too hard...

  • @scottstephens5442
    @scottstephens5442 3 года назад

    I hope that if and when super returns, there will be an episode where trunks and goten wake up with a sudden growthspurt so trunks looks like his history of trunks equilivant and goten looks a year younger than that.