RGNT No.1 Classic Electric Motorcycle!
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Thanks to English Electric Motor Co. I have this RGNT (Pronounced Regent) No.1 Classic se electric motorcycle on loan for a couple of weeks. This is a CBT legal electric motorcycle but I will say now it is not for 17yr old. This is the first ride video the full review with all my honest thoughts comes later, I have to test the bike first.
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I'm dying to go electric, The first company to sell a decent Bike that does at least 120 Miles, 90mph top speed, and is suited properly for a pillion for ~£6kish. I'll buy it.
I think you will be waiting a long time Sir. Some 125cc bikes are close to £6k these days. But I appreciate the sentiment they are great and it would be good to see them a lot cheaper.
@@spicy110 I expect 5 years is a realistic timeframe for price to come down to the same levels as a combustion engine motorcycle. Zero motorcycle are selling for £15k+, whereas I can buy a combustion engine bike with equivalent build and power for £6k
Seriously, don't hold ya breath 😊
I like that it looks like a real motorcycle.
This is the sort of machine that is perfect for me. Yes I am in that niche category that this bike is aimed at, and as I'm retiring from work next year I will be looking at this bike as a possible purchase.
Looking forward to the continued videos on the RGNT Spicy 🙂
Love the classic looks with this bike.🖤🖤🖤
Yeah the price is a joke considering it's missing a lot of basic features.
The Vectrix VX-1 that come out in 2006 had a Multi-functional Regenerative Throttle, which they had a patent for at the time. In 2016 a Polish company revived the bike, and it still has that function. When you come to a full stop on the Vectrix VX-1 and then roll forward on the throttle, if goes backwards, hence the multi function bit.
I test rode the bmw ce04 two days ago. Great thing. I really enjoyed it. They have the regen sorted in the same way as a recent electric car would. The strength of regen is different depending on which mode you're in. It can be moderate, similar to strong engine braking or it can be very strong, like very heavy braking. They key thing is that it can be modulated on the twist grip. So on max regen mode it's only max if you suddenly release the throttle. Feather the throttle off and you can flirt with the regen. In certain scenarios you have the throttle open and are travelling at, say 50mph, but regen is operating. The amount of kW fed back into the battery can be very significant. Not to be sniffed at. On the beemer the transition from off to on is smooth and safe. It's the future maaan. 😁
liking electric bikes more and more as i see you on them
I love that it has a type 2 socket for charging! very handy for using home charging or public charging
Yes that is a good thing the only issue is the charge rate. 3-4hr for 20-80% is a bit long at a station.
Lots of guys 40-70 in my Monkey and Dax groups took A1 test on their own 125s ( no lesson needed and lose L plates etc) . They don't want to go touring. Just 20-30 mile blasts around the countryside. They also have disposable income. This looks just the job.😂
Bingo that is exactly what I have been using it for and it has been a lot of fun!
6:15 seems to me like the patented RevFlex of a small Czech company DevsBike
I really appreciate your open and honest reviews of electric bikes. Acknowledging in their present form, they have a place, and it not as a wholesale replacement for IC. I’m an “old fart” and a confirmed petrol head, but I enjoy following the progress and evolution of the electric bikes, and this one has an attractive “retro” look about it. Keep up the good work 👍!
6:10 I think the Livewire does it.
Unless I remember it wrong, it's been a while since I've tried it. But I've pitched it at Energica CTO.
I use the same motion on my Low Rider S to disable cruise control, without touching the brakes so I don't have to brake if I don't need to stop immediately.
Basically you could set your regen to low or even 0 if you want, and force it the full twisting the level, because that's how you really need to break 95% of the time with electric (at least with big bikes like Energica or Harley).
I'm not a fan of twisting the throttle forward to enable the reverse: I fidget with the forward throttle sometimes, I don't like to unlearn a simple and innocuous habit. Just put a button somewhere. :)
Which is why Verge and RGNT are wrong putting the rear brake in the place of the clutch.
Not disagreeing with a change from your norm can be annoying! (honda having horns where the indicator should comes to my mind) I had a background in single-cylinder small bikes since I was about 12, I am 37 now.
in the last 9 years ish, I have ridden everything from small electrics, 1000cc sports bikes to hyper electrics to 3500cc roasters, adventure bikes, and everything in between. There is no bike in the world I can't jump on and ride now. (ok old stuff with fully reversed stuff might be a challenge lol) Engines are as much to learn as lever placement,. More so when literally all auto scooters have the rear on the left hand. Never fear learning something new, and yes grabbing the rear as a clutch will make you laugh a lot, but you only do it a few times. I hope from my DRZ400sm to my XJ^ and what ever random bike I have at the time and my brain just adapts to each bike, I do not even think about it.
If, big IF, I was going for a two wheeled ladyshave then on looks alone this one is way ahead of the pack. Anyone else think it was a Matchless in the opening shot? Thought you had your hands on a classic Brit for a min. Looking forward to more on this one.
I think it looks great other than the tablet screen on the front, at the price point, they could have hidden the screen in a more traditional twin round clocks style I'd of hoped. I'd really like to have a need for a bike like this... It is why I got the little Honda CB100 last year... but the reality is, I just don't have a real use for a bike like that, or this.... But I do wish I did! 😀 (not that I'd be prepaired to pay what this one costs mind).
If that’s the future I’m taking the bus, I suppose it could be worse at least were not being forced to ride a GS adventure. 😎👍
I'd love to see a comparison with the BMW CE04. They are both in a similar price range but have completely different approaches to the city bike concept
Defo different riding feel. Bear in mind that you can spec 7kW charging on the beemer, making it reasonably viable as a cross country machine. My test ride of the beemer yielded an extrapolated 95miles range. Probably 80 miles very realistic across country travel. You'll find car park chargers peppered all over the place. Connected Kerb come up trumps for us in our car. Very reasonable price and easy to use 👍
I like they did away with the foot brake, I've always thought it should have both brake levers on the handlebars, just common sense to me.😬 Still bit expensive though
Yup, it's good enough on a scooter and means you can put both feet down if you need/want.
A bit 😮
I still like my cruisers, but I have to admit, that bike did turn my eye, also the one thing about 125s that always bugged me was the lack (at least with my Michigan) of power for overtaking, so that boost mode sounds like it would make it even more practical. However, at nearly 9 TIMES the cost of my bike, I very much doubt I'll ever be sitting my backside on one of those any time soon, at least not until they become more mainstream and the prices drop significantly (that is if I redo my CBT, I'm still undecided following my accident last year).
This is why I say this bike is for someone who wants "that" bike. There are other bikes like the Zero FXE with the same power and cost a bit less, but still around £11k
Love to try one must admit .hayling island i live near there
Seems pretty cool, the Swedish usually build good and inventive stuff.
Makes a mockery of the 125cc leaner
Should have been 250cc from the start
It used to be until 1983.
We need this in Canada 😢
it's like an electric 125 cc equivalent scooter in the shape of a bike and has reverse... neato .. apart from the price though. can't wait for EV bikes to get more affordable for the speedy boi options
Please review the maeving rm1 pleeease, thanks 😅
The brakes look like they work the same as on my niu scooter. The front brake has 3 pistons. The left lever operates the middle front piston and the rear brake. The right lever operates the outer two front pistons. Apparently a law which applies if there's no abs🤷♂️. Annoys the hell outta me cos I like to trail the rear brakes over loose surfaces. Something encountered frequently on the shitty roads in Yorkshire 😂.
Very beautiful mc.
Do you think that with a battery that big, it ends up being more expensive in the long run than its petrol equivalent when it comes time to replace the battery, even with running and maintenance costs taken into account?
It depends on how long it lasts, Zero Motorcycles claim that at 100k miles their batts will still have 80% capacity and most petrol motorcycles do not see past 60-80k miles before they are crushed or broken beyond economical repair. That is without taking into account all the savings on fuel that is MASSIVE and maintenance that can be expensive if you don't do it yourself. So no I do not think that is the case but clearly, I can not prove that at this point, few can. We will only know the true longevity of the batts and how much they can be repaired in time.
What if you change the throttle to reverse while moving lol
haha that doesn't work, you have to be stopped for a while.
125cc/A1 don't have to have ABS, but if the don't they need to have interlinked brakes.
So that makes it easy to find out ;)
For the price you anticipated a bit more progress maybe, but they are evolving quite fast.
The version I saw on intermot germany last year versus the version I saw on the Motorexpo in Netherlands a few months ago was already improved.
Shame I missed my weekend riding one of these, need to wait a bit longer to get a 2 day experience.
The whole point of a retro bike to is relive the past.
It's certainly a niche product. It looks good but I am clearly not the target audience.
Pricey but good cheers
I love the classic look. But the price is something I can't justify.....unless I somehow win the money to buy it😂
Who the hell could in the modern world financial situation 😢
Have you seen the price of some electric mountain bikes!
Okay. It must be nice to have peak torque at zero rpm rather than the 10k rpm with mine! Perhaps its good that it is priced out of the reach of a seventeen year old. I also like the idea of regeneration but I think that I might miss the ICE noise. As a wrinkly I wouldn’t mind a test ride.😂
I quite agree with all you have said. If it is not right for you, it is not right. BUT your willingness to give it a go at some point just to see what they are like, I think that is pretty healthy. Opposed to people who hate them so much they would not lay a finger on one, let alone be interested in, at the very least just having a go for the experience alone. Even if they still turn round and say, yep hate it! haha
@@spicy110 I would love a Tesla but the economics just don’t make sense for me currently either. My bike is just for guilty pleasures and I’m not looking for practicality. Perhaps being able to hear as well as see and smell my surroundings would be pleasurable. Torque is also very addictive!
Now you can park on any gradient because you have reverse. Im liking electrics but them being silent is dangerous.
Have you seen my video discussion them being quiet? ruclips.net/video/05FWWv3BZFQ/видео.html
the regen throttle thing it like "one pedal driving" on electric cars, and other electric bikes not having this has been kinda astounding, why use your brakes going downhill when you can charge the battery instead?
There's currently a safety issue with that on the cars in that you can slow down quite quickly, and it doesn't put the brake lights on.
This bike does put the brake likes on with regen, I will show this in my final review. Are we a technology connections fan?
@@spicy110 oooyeah!
@@chrisdavidson911 It was an intresting video but I do think he missed something. People have always used engine braking in cars and the brake lights do not come on for that. In fact I have a device on my Yamaha XJ6 that make the brake light flash on hard decel/engine braking.
@@spicy110 does it come on just from engine braking? I've never had anything that did it all that powerfully. What TC showed looked like his was equivalent to a decent amount of pedal pressure, enough to keep your speed constant on a steep-ish downhill at least
@@spicy110 damn i just commented this request. yes I'm a fan too XD
I'd be interested to know how heavy that is and whilst I like the overall look that screen isn't very sympathetic to the rest of the bike. Looks out of place to me.
I do kinda agree in ways but the issue is how to you make a lcd screen look old? You need the screen for all the software stuff so you can not just have old dials. IT could be a bit thinner yes but it is touchscreen and has GPS stuff in there and it updates wirelessly,
@@spicy110 a round screen/dial would have been more in keeping IMHO. I appreciate that would have been more expensive to produce rather than an off the shelf touchscreen. Touchscreen seems a little over the top too, but I guess they're trying to justify the price by calling that a feature. I can't imagine how well a touchscreen can really work on a bike with gloves, rain, dirt, etc. Better to just display info than to interact. Meh. I can't afford one so what do I know.
@@mattballard4804 They say it is getting a satnav overlay on the screen that is why it is so big, but I agree if that was not the case they could have had dails/ round screens. They exsist now so it would only be a case of them buying them not developing them.
The name sounds stupid, but it's not bad after the second time.
At the end, they are leaving out just a couple of Es. ^_^'
I love the concept of electric vehicles, there is a automotive company called Alpha with some really neat looking electric cars that are hopefully going to be coming out soon BUT, they just at this point are not where they need to be for how fast every country seems to want to make them mandatory. Had we spent the last 100 or so years working on electric vehicles like we have the ICE no doubt we'd all be driving electric cars already i mean just look how far we've come in the last decade or so with battery and motor tech. but as they stand its a lack of versatility and convenience that turns me off of electric vehicles. No doubt in another 20 years when im actually able to afford one of these fuckin things maybe that will have changed but right now, they are so expensive for almost all down sides outside of pure POWER for a limited amount of time X3
the trouble is, had we been using battery tech as a power source for vehicles the last 100 years, we'd need to be switching to another source of energy now as we would have depleted all the resources by now.... maybe we'd be switching to fossil fuels now instead of electric.... I prefer that world! 😀
@@HippoDrones Ehhh probably not just due to how much would have changed, like we'd probably have moved over to solar or nuclear power much sooner, along with hydro power where we can. We probably would have moved to recycling much sooner to keep what new materials we did use lessened. I would say we'd be in a better state then we are now as we seem to be in the worst of both worlds at the moment but with out seeing that world i couldnt say for sure.
I don't agree with electric bikes, I really don't. I'm not one for filtering, unless I'm in a hurry or I get incredibly bored, otherwise I'm quite happy to sit in traffic, (That's just me), BUT, when I do filter I like people to know that I'm there. Even with my engine noise I've lost count of the amount of times that people have pulled out on me. Someone is going to die on one of these, or get very badly hurt. They're dangerous.
Do you think your dislike of electric bikes is fogging your judgment on the sound issue? What I mean is you have just said the sound has proved to not help many times, yet you keep riding as if they can hear you? No that would be silly so you ride as if they can't hear you and now you are just riding an electric bike, and yet I do still agree with loud pipes saves lives. This is a video on this whole subject, ruclips.net/video/05FWWv3BZFQ/видео.html
@@spicy110 I totally see the good side of electric bikes. When the sound of my bike hasn't helped that's been down to the stupidity of people in cars. Oddly, and I'm going to contradict myself massively here, I do actually prefer a quieter bike, but a totally silent bike isn't for me. That said, I do appreciate your impartiality on the subject, just as I appreciate your views on all of your other videos, and I really like that fact that I can not necessarily agree with you but you don't get defensive about it. Thanks for the reply mate, keep safe.
God it is nice to have a proper discussion 😁👍 appreciate it.
@@spicy110 A lot of other people could do with some lessons. We can have different opinions, as we do over electric bikes, without becoming arseholes about it.
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I think electric should stick to the dirt. When it comes to road motorcycles now, hydrogen will be coming out soon and that will be the solution as the big four are going to be manufacturing them (suzuki, yamaha, honda and kawasaki). All electric motorcycles have sadly struggled to catch on apart from companies like surron and talaria, its pretty clear that dirt is the way its going and should go in terms of functionality for electric motorcycles. These electric road motorcycles are too expensive to justify at the moment sadly, and dont save that much in terms of running cost to a bike under 400cc and the mileage is an issue as it is basically non existent (less than 100 miles) and not to mention they all usually cost £10,000 more than their petrol counterparts
Sorry you will never ride a hydrogen motorcycle, I do not know why the big four are talking about them, it will not happen. How can I be so sure? It's the science. This video covers why you will not see hydrogen bikes ruclips.net/video/lnAd-N007D0/видео.html
@@spicy110 ok lol, the big four literally founded a company to pursue a hydrogen bike and Kawasaki already have prototypes. It will be the future for internal combustion engines because it's sadly the only realistic option
@@spicy110 You are absolutely correct. While lorries, construction vehicles and possibly cars have the space, scaling down this low density fuel means the fuel tank size would be impractical (three times the size weight for weight) on a bike using gaseous hydrogen. Very many other logistics, plant maintenance and safety considerations also.
As a visiting professor and expert in sustainable energy at Imperial college said in this week's MCN, "I think it is very interesting that they've (big 4 manufacturers) all decided to go in together", he said. "For me, that suggests they have no confidence in it. They don't want to shut it down; they want to keep it as an option. But they want to reduce the costs of having that option".
The price is a joke, it's nothing special in the electric world, there are plenty of similar options for 4 to 6 grand.
Honestly losing interest in these things now purely on price and range.
No, I will disagree there, I will get into it in my full review but in short, the electrics of this bike are not comparable to things like Supersoco's that are 4 grand. It is only comparable with things like the Zero FXE which is over £11k as I talked about in the video. I am not saying £12k is ok tho to be clear just making real-world comparisons.
@@spicy110 look forward to your in depth review then.
Not that I would ever buy one at that price but it's nice to get your opinion.
Love the bike BUT - Range 60-70 miles? Naaaa! Very poor!
Compared to what? Also, this isn't the range test, this is ruclips.net/video/-EcgloxZPxE/видео.htmlsi=EU9trj7MvQtAHbGG.
It's not the worst looking thing in the world but everything has to be judged against its competition and at 12 grand I don't believe it can be compared to any 125 or any 12k petrol bike because any 12k petrol bike is going to be better in every conceivable way. I'm not anti electric and it could have a place in commuting but I am anti rip-off and at 12k for that they should be wearing a mask and riding a horse called black bess because there is no way that justifies a £12k price tag at maybe 4k maybe 5k at a push it might make sense as a trendy urban commuter but as a 12k retro it's a bit of a joke.
It's a lot yes, but you can not compare petrol to electric, it's not the same thing. You can compare electric to electric as I did and It's pricey but in line with the market. I cover all this in greater detail in my forthcoming review. Just because you don't think it's worth it doesn't change how much the electrical system on these bikes costs to produce at this early stage and be safe. For 4k you might get the battery and a wheel haha.
@@spicy110 That is kind of my point it doesn't compare with petrol bikes because it can't do what they do and if you just want a commute bike why would you pay 12k when there are commuter type electric bikes out there for 4k ? If all you want to do is get to work which is really all this thing is capable of with a 60 mile range then who in their right mind is going to pay Bonneville money for it ? I know you are a fan of electric bikes but I can't see that this particular bike makes any sense at all.
It's so simple, they sell them to the people they DO make sense to. They exist, for some it's looks alone! These people still need honest reviews. As much as yes I do like electric bikes that doesn't mean I am not objective about it. Sure they are not perfect now but it gives me hope that after 2035 I can still be excited about new bikes! Early adopters are doing us all a favor in paying the high prices for development. (assuming the ban is going ahead as the law currently stands) that's pretty fair isn't it?
@@spicy110 They clearly have a place and I'm not knocking you or anyone else for reviewing them but the truth is they are still a long way from being a viable alternative either on ability or price other than in the commuter market or for a bit of local razzing around and we've yet to see what catastrophe awaits early adopters with depreciation when batteries get old. I get that it is a product and needs reviewing and yes there are a few people who will buy it but I also worry that the more we "normalise" these ridiculously high prices the more we allow Governments and manufacturers to effectively reduce road traffic by pricing the poor off the roads as they are doing with clean air zones. I think you'll agree that the very last thing motorcycling needs right now is another barrier to entry for young people.
I don’t like it, the whole thing make me feel sad 😢
Nope! Stop right there, straight away way out of the majority of people's pockets 😮
I said that, but someone can afford it, so don't they need reviews too?
Not too high priced.
@@spicy110 sure, but it's not in the price range of a lot, I certainly would not pay for it, oh yeah and it's butt ugly to add insult to injury 🤣
@@CommercialVehicle in your opinion
Electric vehicles are excellent for performance but for long distance journeys especially when it comes to bikes I'm doubtful that completely replacing petrol is possible
Don't be so sure, currently we have bikes with 130+ mile ranges that change 20-80% in 30 mins. Give it another 5 years maybe 10 and you will see the same sort of range as a patrol and in theory they could charge in 5 mins but cooling is the issue there.