For some fuckin reason,I'm listening to this on the way to work and on the way home from work instead of music...so far I listened to at least 5 episodes so far...love it!!!
This is one of my favorite podcast. I remember my first Lois Lamour paperback told this story in a way I was addicted to western history. Names were changed but it seemed he took pages talking about the thinking on ways to get the gun into play quicker. Don't remember name of book and entire collection got missing during a move with my mad magazines dating from the 50s. Dangit man!
That area of Arkansas/Texas is where Fauk, AK is and it's a documentary film about Bigfoot. I wonder if Baker ever crossed paths with the mighty Sasquatch....
Very well told! You should do a podcast on Charles "Leather Britches" Smith out of Merryville, La. East Texas outlaw who relocated to Louisiana and kicked up a lot of commotion around 1910.
Excellent episode as always. I read the name Cullen Baker before but didn't know anything about him. Always find it interesting how close to my little hometown in southeast Oklahoma some of the outlaws were. I'm about 100 miles from Bonham Texas were John Wesley Hardin was born.
This is the first of your content I’ve seen, but as a lifelong resident of Bloomburg, and someone who has done a lot of research on Baker myself, I’m a fan. Headed off to binge the rest of your stuff now.✊
Baker was going to be arrested and tried for the bullwhip beating to a young man named Stallcup who he almost killed. Wesley Bailey was a witness to the beating and willing to testify. Baker went out to his ranch and shot his legs with a shotgun, injuries which killed Bailey a couple days later. Baker than ran away to Arkansas and hid at his uncle's house for a couple of years. And I think both of Baker's wives were named Martha. The Wartham murder was around 1856. His daughter was Louise was born in 1857 and his first wife died in 1860 when she was about 23. Interesting episode. I think that a lot of these "super" murderers had a lot more crimes attributed to them than they actually committed so there legends grew. Either way, Baker was apparently a very bad man.
Enjoyed the Cullen Baker episode, even though I have studied him quite a bit. My GGGrandfather was Thomas Orr, the lowly schoolteacher who was one of the subjects of Cullen's hatred. The killing of Cullen Baker must have brought Thomas some fame, as he became the Surveyor of Miller County, Arkansas and laid out the town of Texarkana, served in the Arkansas Legislature and was Sheriff and County Judge in Texarkana. He owned the Opera House and had a successful Law Practice. After all he went thru to marry Belle Foster, they were later divorced and he was married twice more. He and Belle are both buried (separately) in State Line Cemetery in Texarkana.
Thank you for this episode. I have been planning on doing a post on my blog about how Lee, Peacock, Bickerstaff and Baker deserve Westerns filmed in Northeast Texas and this definitely helps with my research. The works of James Smallwood and Kenneth Howell are on my Amazon wishlist. Are you familiar with the works of Bob Bowman and W. T. Block?
@@WildWestExtravaganza T. W. Block has his own site as well. An interesting article is how after the buffalo hunters killed all the buffalo in the northern plains, they headed to southeast Texas to hunt alligators.
@@WildWestExtravaganza I left two comments about W. T. Bock and Bob Bowmen. I guess one is held for review because I mentioned a website. Anyway, the first one I left mentioned how Block and Bowman's work deals with East Texas history, which was pretty wild, and their notes contain a lot of original sources and contemporary newspaper articles. Look up Texas Escapes to see more of their work.
You should look for some Louis L'amour books they are fiction based on real people. I don't think that I've ever read a book of his I didn't like 👍. But I'm just an old cowboy. So I've always loved reading about the old days, think I was born 100 to 150 years to late.
You do realize Louis L'Amour wrote a highly fictionalized story about Cullen Baker. Meaning much of what he wrote was NOT true! In fact only 2 of the books written by Louis L'Amour were nonfiction, but Cullen Baker story is fictionalized.
I've mentioned before I'm a descendant of Bob Lee I never knew he was well known but in my family his actions were usually justified by "the southern cause " my grandmother however thought he used that as an excuse and that he had a hard time adjusting after the war was lost
@@richardconnor7703Well hell, if that's the metric, the whole of American history is nothing compared to the history of the earth? Keep taking it on down, that history is nothing compared to the history of the universe since the big bang.
"A man who knows not fear, knows not love, for love is the only thing one should fear losing"- Richard Wagner... or rather for Cullen, "Any man who knows fear but still charges ahead is brave, anyone who has no fear at all going into battle is a moron. I'll take the brave man"- Napoleon Bonaparte
Yeah if someone isn't smart enough to be scared, I don't want them to be around to have my back! Lol but really I don't reckon it's funny, just honest.Drove
Apologies for a previous comment about the sense of humor infused in your stories. I failed to have read the bio before checking this channel out. I like the rare stories and topics. Keep it up great work, sorry again about the comment about the jokes didn’t realize that was apart of it all.
Also, the spot I lived on in bright star had a saloon on it originally. It's possible baker and several other people through time had been there.. the ferry you mentioned was ended up being called spring bank ferry
My mom's mother's grandma's maiden name was Baker. My mom's brother was maniacally obsessed with Loiua L'Amour. He owned damn near, if not all, of his books. And my uncle was a pretty vagabond old hippie. So he didn't own much. But those books were his prized possessions. I know my mom's family was southern. Kinda Mahe me have to wonder.... 19:00 One of my Baker x? Great grandfathers had a record attached to his name that said him home was lost a few years before he died due to unpaid property taxes.🤔 Now I'm gonna have to go back through and hunt for that document.
I grew up in Linden TX. fifteen mls. from Jefferson, same from Bloomberg, you get the idea. Born and bred. Been to and seen most of your content. Thanks for a deeper look at what I thought I knew and more or less verifying a few ol' coot's family tales.
@36:15, he lived for a long time, changed his name to Lee Emery and joined the Marines, achieving the rank of Gunnery Sergeant, he was shot by a descendant of "Dummy" in the barracks one night.
You have a new sub here a lifelong history student layman, this episode gave me the idea that putting the bad guy's corpse on public display was likely a powerful deterrent to taking up the criminal trail .
The most famous Texan in WWII was Admiral Chester Nimitz. Admiral Nimitz is from Fredericksburg, Texas. There is a WWII Museum in Fredericksburg, Texas.
Louis L'Amour was an admitted unionist and held all hos values that the south was wrong and all about slavery and such. BUT he claimed he never wrote a book with out doing extensive research. And in the 30s, 40s, and 50s the research was done in libraries and talking to locals that had memories of the area... according to L'Amour this novel is the closest to a historical novel that was based on true events...
This is not a hero of mine but different times and still wery interesting Story ive never heard of so thanks for another great upload who i liked of course i love history spealisy the western time and the viking time but love all times of history exsept now a Days 🤦So thanks for this greetings cz 75 Shadow Norway ✌🏻
Quick draw meant nothing. It was all about accuracy. Try shooting one of those. Anything beyond ten feet is pure luck. Most people don't know the majority of killings in this fashion were across a gambling table. Outdoors they were generally inside of ten feet.
Funny thing I have known people like that in my life but luckily I didn’t get killed lol crazy world full of psychopaths and criminals even today some of them good ole boys have a strange way of thinking know what I mean. I enjoy listening to your History stories thanks
Another great episode from you as usual . I had totally forgotten about this guy . , I first read about him in a book by ( I think ) Carl Briehan titled " Great Gunfighters Of The West " and had totally forgotten about him until now .
For some fuckin reason,I'm listening to this on the way to work and on the way home from work instead of music...so far I listened to at least 5 episodes so far...love it!!!
Keep listening!
You too!? Haha, I walk to and from work, and this stuff is always nice to listen to.
This is one of my favorite podcast. I remember my first Lois Lamour paperback told this story in a way I was addicted to western history. Names were changed but it seemed he took pages talking about the thinking on ways to get the gun into play quicker. Don't remember name of book and entire collection got missing during a move with my mad magazines dating from the 50s. Dangit man!
Another great episode Josh. I'm really appreciative of the work you put into these. They're great listening.
Thank you
@@josephbrown4768 He puts in an extraordinary amount of sweat and thought into this history.
Man, you're good at this. I love the way you tell stories. Thank you again.
One of my uncles know exactly where cullens hideout was the book you mentioned was written by a grandchild of cullen. I've been to his grave as well.
Very cool
Beautiful, man! L'Amour's geography & authenticity larged he charms. Do tell mo!❤
I grew up Southwest of Atlanta. I heard about him ll my life.
@Kmcmichael1959 i grew up in bright star/ doddridge.
I grew up in Australia
Great Show!
Thanks for that!
That area of Arkansas/Texas is where Fauk, AK is and it's a documentary film about Bigfoot. I wonder if Baker ever crossed paths with the mighty Sasquatch....
That place is a trip!!! Literally a town in the middle of swampland very cool
@guytwombly2955 one day I'll go. I've always wanted to go there and Texarkana
Louis Lamour's The First Fast Draw about Cullen Baker was one of favorite novels as kid.
@@kencarney5456 I'll look for it.
I love Louis Lamour
Another fascinating character I knew nothing about until I listened to this.
Eli Wallach in Good Bad Ugly..."If you're going to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk!
Wild 29:39 Bill is also credited with one of the first fast draws at noon over a goldwatch he lost at poker..in Missouri 1865??
Very well told! You should do a podcast on Charles "Leather Britches" Smith out of Merryville, La. East Texas outlaw who relocated to Louisiana and kicked up a lot of commotion around 1910.
I work in Merryville and was surprised to hear about this individual and I’d like to hear more.
As someone "Just across the river", I agree. The Louisiana and Texas Limber War of 1911-12 and the Grabow Riot deserve an episode.
Excellent episode as always. I read the name Cullen Baker before but didn't know anything about him. Always find it interesting how close to my little hometown in southeast Oklahoma some of the outlaws were. I'm about 100 miles from Bonham Texas were John Wesley Hardin was born.
Thank you Josh. Another interesting character & well told story! Your research & work to create these videos are appreciated!
Back at it again with another banger my boy. Love whatcha do brother.
Since I found out you release on both yt and spotify I listen twice. Let's bump these numbers up fellers.
Thanks!
“While I’m sure there were some decent and kind men among them, I’m just not aware of it”
😂😂 you’ve got the old speak down man.
It does a soul good to hear a Southern Accent every now and then. And I like your stories. Keep it up!
I love your channel man
Thanks man
This is the first of your content I’ve seen, but as a lifelong resident of Bloomburg, and someone who has done a lot of research on Baker myself, I’m a fan. Headed off to binge the rest of your stuff now.✊
Thanks Jake!
Hey Jake! What's your last name? I grew up in bright star. Class of 99. I have relatives in Bloomburg. My name is Derek eaglebarger
You have an awesome podcast. I'm a big fan of history, especially this time period. Thank you for all of your research and hard work.
Thanks for listening!
Yaaaaaa buddy! Josh is dropping another episode!! Thank you brother!
Baker was going to be arrested and tried for the bullwhip beating to a young man named Stallcup who he almost killed. Wesley Bailey was a witness to the beating and willing to testify. Baker went out to his ranch and shot his legs with a shotgun, injuries which killed Bailey a couple days later. Baker than ran away to Arkansas and hid at his uncle's house for a couple of years. And I think both of Baker's wives were named Martha. The Wartham murder was around 1856. His daughter was Louise was born in 1857 and his first wife died in 1860 when she was about 23. Interesting episode. I think that a lot of these "super" murderers had a lot more crimes attributed to them than they actually committed so there legends grew. Either way, Baker was apparently a very bad man.
Yeah it seems like the longer the story is told , the more people were killed, but I agree he ain't anybody who you would want to have had at you! Lol
Very interesting episode. Another notch in the handle of your “Smoke Wagon” Josh.
You have a great day!
Cheers. 🇨🇦
Thanks Shane
Another excellent podcast keep up the great work I had never even heard of this guy before and I live in Texas
Oh hell yeah, this just made my day better!
Thank you, Mister Josh!
I really appreciate the work you put into these videos
I really appreciate you listening
Enjoyed the Cullen Baker episode, even though I have studied him quite a bit. My GGGrandfather was Thomas Orr, the lowly schoolteacher who was one of the subjects of Cullen's hatred. The killing of Cullen Baker must have brought Thomas some fame, as he became the Surveyor of Miller County, Arkansas and laid out the town of Texarkana, served in the Arkansas Legislature and was Sheriff and County Judge in Texarkana. He owned the Opera House and had a successful Law Practice. After all he went thru to marry Belle Foster, they were later divorced and he was married twice more. He and Belle are both buried (separately) in State Line Cemetery in Texarkana.
Good info, thanks!
Thank you for this episode. I have been planning on doing a post on my blog about how Lee, Peacock, Bickerstaff and Baker deserve Westerns filmed in Northeast Texas and this definitely helps with my research. The works of James Smallwood and Kenneth Howell are on my Amazon wishlist. Are you familiar with the works of Bob Bowman and W. T. Block?
No sir, I haven't read them yet
@@WildWestExtravaganza T. W. Block has his own site as well. An interesting article is how after the buffalo hunters killed all the buffalo in the northern plains, they headed to southeast Texas to hunt alligators.
@@WildWestExtravaganza I left two comments about W. T. Bock and Bob Bowmen. I guess one is held for review because I mentioned a website. Anyway, the first one I left mentioned how Block and Bowman's work deals with East Texas history, which was pretty wild, and their notes contain a lot of original sources and contemporary newspaper articles. Look up Texas Escapes to see more of their work.
That you brother for all your efforts!
My pleasure
I very much appreciate these broadcast.
Thanks Gary
Always a a great job, thanks!
Thank you
This is the best RUclips has to offer no site is better. This Guy rules
Too kind!
Good job Josh I'm 15 min in and wild horses couldn't drag me away from hearing the rest. Yeah dude.
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You got me with the "Bridger" series. Now just wait for new content!! On these cold Montana mourning's. Thanks
Three more Bridger episodes left in the series and then we're going to tackle Billy Bonney
Great show thank you Josh
Thank you
Great content my man. Your numbers are going to explode.
Never heard of this guy great topic. I know it’s not standard format but I would love hear historical recounts of the Bowie knife and or tomahawk
Dude you are a trip! Great job as always 🤘
Wyatt earp said the same thing. Fast is fine but accuracy is final.
Damn this guy was crazy. Great episode!
Excellent episode as always sir! Ashamed to admit that I had never heard of Cullen Baker before.
You should look for some Louis L'amour books they are fiction based on real people. I don't think that I've ever read a book of his I didn't like 👍. But I'm just an old cowboy. So I've always loved reading about the old days, think I was born 100 to 150 years to late.
Louis Lamour's novel tells a very good story about Cullen Baker. Enjoyed the read alot.
You do realize Louis L'Amour wrote a highly fictionalized story about Cullen Baker. Meaning much of what he wrote was NOT true! In fact only 2 of the books written by Louis L'Amour were nonfiction, but Cullen Baker story is fictionalized.
Story with an attitude., love it!!
Hello bubba. Thank you kindly for the new content ! We appreciate my brother...
"My grandmother could have been a coalminor if she had nuts." 😂😂😂😂 You are appreciated, sir 🙌👊❤️🇺🇸
Happy trails, Cowpoke
The wild west is like chicago sounds like, i guess they're 150 years behind.
Thanks for a story of someone I've never heard of.
Thanks for listening
I've mentioned before I'm a descendant of Bob Lee I never knew he was well known but in my family his actions were usually justified by "the southern cause " my grandmother however thought he used that as an excuse and that he had a hard time adjusting after the war was lost
Reconstruction a brief period . Try 11 years. I think that is a little more than a brief period and they were done dirty in the south
Its a breif period in the overall scheme of American history
@@richardconnor7703Well hell, if that's the metric, the whole of American history is nothing compared to the history of the earth? Keep taking it on down, that history is nothing compared to the history of the universe since the big bang.
I believe Reconstruction is going on to this day. It’s just cultural and political.
Not to mention they where invaded by Northern terrorists
Amen!
"A man who knows not fear, knows not love, for love is the only thing one should fear losing"- Richard Wagner... or rather for Cullen, "Any man who knows fear but still charges ahead is brave, anyone who has no fear at all going into battle is a moron. I'll take the brave man"- Napoleon Bonaparte
'Keep a clean head and always carry a lightbulb.'
Bob Zimmerman.
Yeah if someone isn't smart enough to be scared, I don't want them to be around to have my back! Lol but really I don't reckon it's funny, just honest.Drove
Baker killed most of his opponents from ambush or from behind and his preferred weapon was a shotgun. Kind of hard to fast draw a shotgun.
Dang for real?
Stumbled across your podcast yesterday evening. This is number 5 and loving it. Resident of Cass County and formerly of Polk Co, Arkansas.
Wua chi tah
Glad you're here, Cody!
mannnn these are soo good!
Many thanks
Another banger sir👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great vid. Thanks
You bet
good job again brother really liked it
I'm a born and bred Texan and proud as hell, but I'm glad it's calmed down a little bit.
Same
Sounds good ✓ great personality ✓ great information ✓ and a pal ✓
Gracias
@@WildWestExtravaganza no problemo senior.
You are one of the few who pronounce our name right
The Rowden clan appreciates that
Apologies for a previous comment about the sense of humor infused in your stories. I failed to have read the bio before checking this channel out. I like the rare stories and topics. Keep it up great work, sorry again about the comment about the jokes didn’t realize that was apart of it all.
He’s also mentioned in the movie outlaw josey wales when Josey gets into to tx
Also, the spot I lived on in bright star had a saloon on it originally. It's possible baker and several other people through time had been there.. the ferry you mentioned was ended up being called spring bank ferry
Lots of history there
@WildWestExtravaganza yes!. That ferry was very famous.
My mom's mother's grandma's maiden name was Baker. My mom's brother was maniacally obsessed with Loiua L'Amour. He owned damn near, if not all, of his books. And my uncle was a pretty vagabond old hippie. So he didn't own much. But those books were his prized possessions. I know my mom's family was southern. Kinda Mahe me have to wonder....
19:00 One of my Baker x? Great grandfathers had a record attached to his name that said him home was lost a few years before he died due to unpaid property taxes.🤔 Now I'm gonna have to go back through and hunt for that document.
I grew up in Linden TX. fifteen mls. from Jefferson, same from Bloomberg, you get the idea. Born and bred. Been to and seen most of your content. Thanks for a deeper look at what I thought I knew and more or less verifying a few ol' coot's family tales.
Very cool!
Yeah I'm thinking that putting killers on display for the public might help out still today
Bob Ross x Paul Harrell x Joshua= very messy autistic painting party "somebody hold my beer & watch this..."
@36:15, he lived for a long time, changed his name to Lee Emery and joined the Marines, achieving the rank of Gunnery Sergeant, he was shot by a descendant of "Dummy" in the barracks one night.
This is my ancestor.
Very cool
hell he even joined the posses that were looking for him more than once how many balls does that take lol
I would hardly call 12 years as a brief period of time
Goes faster than you think.Shit happens fast, than the next thing you know 20 yrs done past.
Brother ya gut a nu scriba. Great story telling man .thanks
Thanks Daniel!
You have a new sub here a lifelong history student layman, this episode gave me the idea that putting the bad guy's corpse on public display was likely a powerful deterrent to taking up the criminal trail .
Welcome Thad!
We ain’t stopping at Buc-ees I ain’t going!! You can’t make me
Lmao
Excellent !
Many thanks!
At first i was like sick. My last name is baker. Then i was like ohhhh.... well hes not a very nice guy lol.
My favorite line out of that movie is right before Clint Eastwood kills Gene Hackman and he says “deserves got nothing to do with it”.
Mine too!
Saline river… “suh lean”
Ouachita…. Wash uh taw..😂
Noted
The most famous Texan in WWII was Admiral Chester Nimitz. Admiral Nimitz is from Fredericksburg, Texas. There is a WWII Museum in Fredericksburg, Texas.
Have you made a video about "Soapy" Smith?
Soon
Thank you
You're welcome
Hey Josh I wanted to go back and rewatch the deacon jim Miller episode but it wasn’t there also the quonah Parker one was gone too, what’s up ????
Will address on next episode
"Fast Draw"?...I've heard he rode a mule and his go to weapon of choice was a shotgun. Thank ya for the story. I really enjoyed your narrative 👍
Thank you for listening!
Wow, Mr. Cullen seemed to be a killer in waiting. John P.
Louis L'Amour was an admitted unionist and held all hos values that the south was wrong and all about slavery and such. BUT he claimed he never wrote a book with out doing extensive research. And in the 30s, 40s, and 50s the research was done in libraries and talking to locals that had memories of the area... according to L'Amour this novel is the closest to a historical novel that was based on true events...
This is not a hero of mine but different times and still wery interesting Story ive never heard of so thanks for another great upload who i liked of course i love history spealisy the western time and the viking time but love all times of history exsept now a Days 🤦So thanks for this greetings cz 75 Shadow Norway ✌🏻
Do you ever wonder if guys like this ever woke up some mornings thinking " i feel like kill'n somebody today.?
Absolutely
But you cant find any of this nowadays.... what I speak of was on Wikipedia 15 years ago. And on L'Amour's website... nowadays, the past is lost.
why did most of your episodes get deleted
They're all available on patreon
how much is patreon
There's a pistol on the table and a bottle on the floor
A few paper back novels by Louis La'Mour
Every drunken poet's dream
Quick draw meant nothing. It was all about accuracy. Try shooting one of those. Anything beyond ten feet is pure luck. Most people don't know the majority of killings in this fashion were across a gambling table. Outdoors they were generally inside of ten feet.
Funny thing I have known people like that in my life but luckily I didn’t get killed lol crazy world full of psychopaths and criminals even today some of them good ole boys have a strange way of thinking know what I mean. I enjoy listening to your History stories thanks
You’re evil for not and letting us go to Buckys
Wyatt Earp said, "Hurry up and take your time!!
I fuckin love this shit!!!!
They say he was born in Weakley County, Tennessee. Not sure about the city. Would be nice to know
Could you chill on so many ads? I love your history tales and listen to it while I work but ads pop up so often it's ridiculous
Does anyone know Cullen baker's body count? I'm guessing higher than billy the kids 21?
I sure don't
Even if I don't need gas, I see a Buccee's and I'm stopping there.
Fuck no.Didnt even have a mountain dew
I ate 3 bbq at Buccee's
Bickerstaff? Bickerstaff! He owes me money!”
Another great episode from you as usual . I had totally forgotten about this guy . , I first read about him in a book by ( I think ) Carl Briehan titled " Great Gunfighters Of The West " and had totally forgotten about him until now .