Boardwalk Empire - Luciano has a sitdown with Joe "The Boss" Masseria
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2014
- My second favorite scene in all of Season 3. I still need to eat at this restaurant as it's part of some heavy Mafia history.
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The dude who played masseria was outstanding. The scenes with him were always a treat.
'So u know what time it is'
Ivo Nandi was awesome, though Masseria was massive. He would have blocked out the window if he was sitting there
A real Sicilian
@@allendiaz04 everyone dies, not everyone keeps their promise
Name a character in Boardwalk Empire who did NOT do an outstanding job.
The guy playing Masseria is fucking brilliant.
His name Nandi something
Lucky as well.
Whats even more crazy is that he plays a mexican biker in Sons of Anarchy...talk about acting range lol
He didn't have small hands
Fuckin epic
Damn, they got a legit Sicilian to play Joe Masseria; that accent is unmistakable
As a non-Sicilian that grew up with Sicilians I couldn't agree more.
my grandfather was off the boat from Sicily, i couldn't agree more
I have no connection to Sicily whatsoever, I couldn't agree more
Whats the accent exactly?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I notice an emphasis in words that end in "oooh," sort of like a puckering lip? (ex: doppu)
Ivo Nandi - he's from Menfi apparently
“With them, it’s strictly business. Us, our blood runs hot. Because our hearts are big.” This line sounded beautiful in Italian. You gotta give Joe credit, he’s passionate about where he comes from.
I agree, but Lucky and Meyer knew they were in the New World where that old stuff don't run. Masseria should have learned, or went back to Sicily
Sicilian*
This is an incredible scene - what wonderful writing. First of all, prior to this meeting Lansky told Luciano to not sit with his back to the window (because he might get shot), but when he enters he sees that they've already placed his chair next to the window. Luciano is clearly unsettled by this. Even more so when a car passes by and both Masseria and his henchman look through the window, as if to signal someone - then Luciano freaks out for a moment.
Add these details to the amazing dialogue and acting by Ivo Nandi and Vincent Piazza, and you've got one hell of a scene!
+Ari Storm this was a really awesome break down on what makes this scene so great
Masseria knows this as well. he placed Luciano's chair next to the window on purpose to scare him. its a very efficient negotiation technique and also reminds Luciano who is "the Boss".
Nobody would shoot into the window because they'd be shooting directly at the boss.
@Roger B - Vincent Piazzi was in The Sopranos?
Thank you, you should give us the back story on all of them, well explained mate
they should make a spinoff of Luciano with the same actor
Would be awesome
The dude that plays "Joe the Boss" is pretty dope. An amazing performance everytime he's in the scene. That actually goes for a lot of these actors on this show. The casting director did his job well.
The guy playing Joe nails it. This was one of the scenes where i also first started to respect Vincent Piazza as Luciano. Ivo Nandi kills this scene but both were great.
I love it when shows and movies make an effort to cast actors that are actually from the same place as their characters.Nandi, being a Sicilian by birth gives the role even more credibility. Wagner Moura did a phenomenal job playing Pablo Escobar on Narcos but people in Colombia were not as impressed because he wasn't able to capture the Paisa accent as people from the area of Colombia where Pablo grew up have a distinct way of speaking. Piazza was brilliant on this show as was Nandi.
@@cated4783 Wagner Moura wasn't even able to speak Spanish properly.
@@luciano9755 I know he messed up the accent and used some terms they did not use in Medelin but he still was amazing as Pablo. If you haven't seen it yet I highly recommend Gomorra. Italian crime drama that is better than even the Wire which was the best t.v. show ever made.
My father was a Sicilian immigrant and you can tell Masseria is from Sicily, as well. The accent is unmistakable.
Nope.
@@mineralbalancingitalia2206 Care to enlighten us, then?
all beggars living on scraping others ....
@@Derek.Joseph My friend m talking about Sicilian mafia..not sure how u fixed urself ,ur father,ur forefathers ,arrogance,generational wealth within that context..
You know a series is good when you can watch a single scene a thousand times without having seen the actual show.
Yes, but you should watch the show...its perhaps the best gangster show of all times
@@JohnnyDeur absolutely. The interiors, costumes, music and the drinks alone make it the most atmospheric. Some of the shots are cinematic, claustrophobic looking over the shoulder shots, slow pans, dialogue is masterly...I rate scenes like these where sit downs are taking place up there with the scene in The Godfather with the sit down with Solazzo.
I love watching gangsters discuss business in Italian.
Italian is a beautiful language, the sad thing is, there aren't many Italian-Americans left that speak Italian.
Ashley Chase it’s Sicilian
jeff Sicilian is it’s own language my mother is of Sicilian heritage it’s completely different from standard Italian
@@RomeoDiG1022 - Sicilian spoken is different to Italian spoken?
@@freddybeer completely different
the guy playing joe the boss is what you call a fucking actor....
The 'do what you need to' line said here practically foreshadowed his death in season 5. He repeated the 'do what you need to' line right before he was shot dead
They were not negotiating the heroin business. They were negotiating Luciano.
Dude was born at the wrong time imagine him in The Godfather best performance in the show imo
This is the same John's cafe where tony soprano beat up coco.
Amazing.
Arvin Gayona Classic shit
If you look close enough you can see that Joe and Lucky are seated on shineboxes 😂
Scary Hobo It's called Compromise kid
Scary Hobo not a peep too, right? 😁
Damn what an actor for masseria
That part when joe says “we are close, 2 steps apart”, amazing
+Y Knot: I just heard that Phil did 20 years in the can, though it hasn’t been confirmed yet...
Joe "The Fucking Boss" Masseria...
I love Joe 'The Boss' Masseria.
Masseria is excellent. Has such a deep brooding presence & so well written.
Lol, Joe was outsmarted by Luciano in the end. Charles "Lucky" Luciano is a Legend
Luciano was also a snitch
@@VodkaSoda who isn't a snitch Semion El Mayo etc
Masseria is the character you kind of overlook on the first watch through but as you rewatch it you realise how important he is to the fabric of the show.
What a wonderfully crafted scene. Great writing, great acting and photography. It was also the dialogue in Italian that makes it feel so realistic. When Masseria says "We are close" you can feel the danger coming from him.
*Dialogue in SICILIAN (although the lack of definite articles used in this scene is more grammatically accurate to Italian), not Italian. They are different languages, and the odds that either the real Joe Masseria or Luciano knew how to speak/understand standard Italian are basically zero. It may seem like semantics but it's an important distinction
Amazing scene! God I miss this show
Never watched it but I think maybe I will.
I mistakenly thought it was too historical for me to relate but the drama human relationships are timeless.
Shame they had to rush the ending with the fifth season
@@bmabs35 look what they did with thrones HBO has a problem sticking the landing it seems
I think on this show Joe had alot of affection for Luciano he just enjoyed screwing with his head to show him who was boss
@Starta B That was real life though...Lucky was Masseria's #2
Maserria's suits alone in this show are enough for a sit down
I love the tension between Romans, Neopolitans and Sicilians. Very entertaining.
Romans???
These three are all Sicilian. The real Joe Masseria refused to work with anyone except Sicilians, and was even hesitant to work with people outside of his own village. And would be his downfall.
@@samuelcapritta1086 actually it is not true. it was a myth created about him to justify his murder.
@@samuelcapritta1086that’s why the old school guys were called Mustache Petes- they refused to work with non-Italians and even non-Sicilians, like you said. Lucky and the new generation thought that was only limiting their opportunities. They also wanted a “Boss of all Bosses” which Lucky was against when he created The Commission. Lucky actually could’ve made himself the Boss of all Bosses but he knew that it would only make a target for a rival later on
@@mineralbalancingitalia2206yea Rome, Naples, Calabria etc. A lot of the Mafia guys were from Sicily but there were lots of guys that came from other parts of Italy too. They were all Italian at the end of the day but these different places within Italy had their own ways and customs
Wanted this show to continue so bad following Lucky and his formation of the Commission and all the Murder Inc stuff. Would have been cool
100%
“You can’t trust them”
-people openly trying to rob you
Ivo Nandi played Masseria more than the late Masseria himself
Joe Masseria actor nailed every scene he was in
from 2 percent everywhere, to 30 percent in only the territory. LOL
“We’re very close Salvatore” I love that
What did he mean?
@@chitweak18 Luciano says they're far apart meaning they think differently, Joe says they're very close meaning physically close. It's a threat from Joe that he can kill Luciano at any point.
Outstanding performance from all of the three, yet the guy who played Masseria is one of a kind, towering over the other two!
This program is absolutely riveting! The acting is top shelf. Great scene.
unaaaaa headaschtone?
The way he said it was sick
Epitafi
René Moncayo wha
john stier epitaph
He said "Comu NA headasctone?"
"Una" is Italian," "na/nu" is Sicilian
I love how Joe always shows in suttle ways he genuinely likes Salvatore, even when he is angry with him. When Lucky said "next time you dont come back? Im ok with that". Joe smiles like hes thinking "this is why i miss this kid".
Masseria actor is unbelievable
The masseria actor has a vito corleone vibe. That was a tense scene
Vincent Piazza is awesome
I really like that fact that they speak Italian/Sicilian in this scene, but I would've liked to have seen more of that on the show, speaking other languages, as it would've been both awesome *and* realistic. Of course, there are at least a couple of examples where the show touches the subject, like when Lansky beats up a guy and says something in Yiddish, and when Sigrid Mueller sings a lullaby to her baby in Norwegian (which I as a Swede recognize).
god I love this show, It kills me that HBO rushed to end it. If people would watch these kind of shows instead of keeping up with the kardashians, we could enjoy good shows longer
Amir's Homes Hamilton I heard they had to after the boardwalk got destroyed in a hurricane or something
Was it rushed? I never really got that impression. Just like “the wire”, I always feared it could have gone too long. But when you look at it, the last seasons seemed a little less solid than the rest.
@@rdalge look what happened to Thrones lol
@@rdalge it may have been the brilliance of season 4 making season 5 seem meh. It's better to burn out than to fade away (i.e The Simpsons)
Rome, GoT, Boardwalk Empire, ... the list goes on. I was quite sad about Rome, season 1 was phenomenal...
Joe Masseria is a act like a real mob boss
3:00 - "TRENTA!"
Joey Lock i thought Lucky was gonna fall off his seat when he said that but he actually took it pretty well.
But.....ln the territory. You see? Joe had a heart.
Michael Diekmann yes he must of seen that as a compromise.
Although Masseria was a cold, calculating boss you could tell he had a fondness for Lucky. I don't think anyone else would have gotten away with the stuff lucky pulled and lived to tell the tale.
It’s a Italian with Sicilian words sprinkled around , with a Sicilian southern Italian accent
WITH AFRICAN DESENT REMEMBER THAT💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 MOORES.
@@edb4497 moors and no moors it’s right by Africa and Eritheans aren’t from Switzerland
Brilliant scene
At 2:18 at the sound of automobile pulling up, both Lucky and Masseria thought it was a drive by and half ducked for safety. The subtle depiction of this subconscious consciousness in this setting of sit down which would have been attended with distrust by both men only highlights the great attention paid to details in this series. Great job.
They were signaling to him that two guys were outside if things didn’t go right
Same restaurant where Tony Soprano stomped that guy’s head
I mean Joe has a point. Selling heroin in his territory.
That is why he is the "boss", plus, I don't know why a lot of idiots would call Luciano and Meyer "genius" gangster since they did only "usurp" a shadow empire that was made powerful by Masseria and Salvatore Maranzano. These two men, were the ones that literally started from scratch, while Luciano and Lansky became right hand men to Rothstein and Msseria.
Luciano's power did not even last that long, less than a decade of power, he lose it to the legal system and the other mafia families. And both these men between the 1940's and 1970's were just like "fugitives".
+nodinitiative Salvatore Lucania (Lucky Luciano) was the mastermind of the commission...welll him and Lansky. He had a vision of running this illegal operation like a business....no one thought it that way before. He was revolutionary....
+V. B. It wasn't his idea, it was Johnny Torrio's and it wasn't that revolutionary, it was just consolidating the way they did things.
Gootothesecond yet Lucky was the one with the drive and charisma to put it together.
Luciano was a sellout who ran with jews and spat on his heritage and the original mafia.
We we have a look around it's just you and me. Absolutely beautiful love ittt. He absolutely nailed his role tremendous actor
This is one of my favorite scenes of season 1, can't believe I own that Lucky coat now, best purchases ever!
George Luna What? This is not season 1.
Christopher the jacckkeeeettt
It's season 3
Best gangster series in my opinion.
Agreed,
Lucky, AR, Meyer, Capone, Masseria, all hit it out of the park in this series. HBO really, really messed up by not either
A. Giving these characters more screen time
B. Making a Spin off show with them.
It's really, really a shame because there was so much more potential there. Could have been one of the biggest TV shows ever.
Fuck man this show had amazing casting. Everyone was PERFECT.
That moment when you're portuguese and by some miracle you understand the sicilian...
I really lmao when I realized I didn't need the translation. 😂
The dialogue in this scene was so good.
reminds me of trying to get a raise at work "We're far apart, Joe"
Were you actually flayed ? 🧐
Mr. Doyle
3:56 😅😅😅 homie spoke English in the thickest Italian accept. You feel that P in cheaP!
Hell of an actor this guy joe the boss
Just realized same restaurant was used in the Sopranos when Tony does a beatdown for someone annoying his daughter
"We're far apart Joe."
"We're very close, Salvatore."
Finally someone that plays an Italian mobster who is able to speak Italian (Sicilian dialect). My ears were bleeding when I heard De Niro speaking in Italian in “The Irishman”.
"You're the one that got away" lol I love that.
The restaurant ... "John's".... is that the same place that Tony Soprano beat down Coco..?
I think a few scenes in sopranos was filmed here too
Luciano the most legendary gangster of all IMO!!!!
This scene is legendary
for me this is the best scene of the entire show
More like a shakedown than a sit down.
Reminds me of Godfather 2 when Fanucci wants the young Don Corleone to pay him his tribute.
The difference is that Fanucci was all talk. Masseria is the real deal. Lucky is very nervous for good reason.
Joe Masserati was my favorite character in the series. I’ve watched this scene probably 100 times!
Sopranos was great
..this was up there with it.
Messeria scared me just watching him
That dialogue reminds me young Vito Corleone and don Fanucci discussion.
This scene reminds me of a young Vito Corleone in Godfather 2 when he's speaking with Don Fanucci. Masseria was the boss who underestimated Lucky Luciano much like Fanucci underestimated the young Vito, both Fanucci and Masseria were taken out by these young ambitious men they underestimated
In the end it was Joe Masserias kind that betrayed him in the back.
Even tho it's all Italian, the Sicilian dialect is much more appealing & interesting 💯
We’re very close Salvatore...amazing
Fucking brilliant scene, so intense.
I never watched this show but I will say the actor playing lucky resembles him more than the actor who played him in Making of the Mob.
Gra aktorów, majstersztyk. Pozdrowienia z Polski
Wooh i love Sicília im from spain i know Ll that beautiful island
Like a headstone! 😂
the masseria actor is the best of the serie
(Other guy looks out window)
Luciano = quickly looks out window
Joe made me wanna learn Italian..
Gangsters are the ones who stab each other in the back. Masseria and Rothstein both screwed Lucky over. The fact that Meyer didn't doesn't seem to have anything to do with religion.
G G Meyer and Luciano were friends since childhood if that counts for anything.
And look how Masseria and Rothstein ended up. Luciano and Lansky died of natural causes.
“The other one” aka Bugsy Siegel
Little did he know by leaving Lucky alive he signed his own death warrant
Gyp Rosetti was reacting in the exact same manner when he had his sit down with Joe the Boss.
30% before expenses or after? You are talking about EBITDA?
Can somebody please write what Lucky exactly said at 2:12 to the other guy?? Of course not the english words. Thank you.
"They'll stab you in the back"...he wasn't wrong.
Why is that Frankie?
@@grazianolaudisio3644 If I have to explain its futile.
Joe was a classy gangster that went with the rules. You never call a sit down and whack the other party, your guarantee is your word. Same can’t be said about short pants , that’s why he was looking in the mirror.
This is the same restaurant Tony Soprano beat Coco Congliano in after messing with Meadow....
I've always had this doubt. How do they account for the percentage from the other guys business? How they know they're gatting undercut or wtv?
shame we didn't get more of joe the boss in this series
Agreed
They should a showed HIM more and all the boring female characters less
As a sidenote, the subtitles do a big disservice to what's actually being said. There're many nuances lost in translation.
Joe gave him that uncle talk lol iykyk