Cheap 250 Size Mini Quad Project - RCTESTFLIGHT -
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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If your interested in the low quality Mini Quad seen in this video, then these parts are for you:
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In 2014 this kind of flying was considered impressive..
We have come far :)
Someone called them "crappy chinese stuffs" but everytime i saw people fly them, they fly so good and they are very happy with them...
Thanks for the ride!
Very nice video as usual! Happy weekend
You are in the sky where you live... altitudes make for a tough build on a mini due to the thin air.
You want to go with 4S power (35-70C rating- maybe more) and 12amp esc's and a touch lower on kv- say the Cobra 1960 or even the Lumenier 2206-2300kv's and 6in props. I hear the KISS 18amps work well- that extra voltage will help on high C rating punches.
You are an r/c fpv natural brother... everything you fly you make it look good. (excellent camera skills push you over the top- pun intended)
Dude... at this point I have TOTALLY subscribed! ...ALL CAPS NERD RAGE!!!!!
Looks like the drone was nicely balanced. Good run man.
I'm getting an adrenalin rush just watching the flight video.
Those picnic table awnings are big, but still really heart pumping to fly through, especially because you know you have to spend hour fixing and re-aligning shit if you crash... make that *when you crash :)
Good stuff.. thanks for sharing the video.. keep it up m8! :)
Nice, this is a good educational piece, especially for those of us wanting to build on the cheap. Finding that line between good and cheap is difficult at best, and you've illustrated that brilliantly. Well done!
I have the actual CF version and have been bouncing it off trees and concrete all summer and it is still going strong.
To dampen the mobius mount i simply use a battery strap around the top frame plate and the mobius and mount. If your props are balanced there is no jello.
what an insane landscape you have there omg
Nice one. I fly one of these on 4s using multistar 2206 motors and 5x4 props. It's a beast.
I have a few fully carbon fiber ZMR frames. They weigh a lot less than the glassy fiber frames. I think 1806 is the minimum size motor that flies well on this frame, and the 2204 motors do really well. My favorite props are HQ 5x4.5. If you fly 6x4.5 props, they produce a ton of thrust, but are very floaty unless you use escs with active braking. I also have a blackout which I love, but which also cost me five times the price for the frame.
Lots of interesting comments, keep em coming. Gonna build my 1st one soon.
Nice flight footage! Digging that Quad you built. I'm putting together a 200qx coupled with a Rakon Frame. Then after throw in a Morbius/ FPV system.
A thing that small flying like THIS,EPIC
Dang!!! You really inspire!!! Thanks for all those great videos!!! Getting mine pretty soon!!!
Tiger Motor have recently had a huge price reduction on their line of miniquad motors (to the annoyance of their dealers holding old stock) making them a realistic choice. The Cobra 2208 on 4s are also a hot setup for insane power and speed you just need to choose the ESC's wisely.
Awesome video man! Great footage and thanks for the info. Long time rc pilot from props to jets and helis. Getting into quads and have no idea where to start. Thanks for fixing that.
Looking at your damaged arm you do have the true full CF version. Banggood has mixed up their stock alot with the 'glassy fibre' version. Great cheap mini quad, recommended.
Very Cool,, Live the Video, Great Flying!
Hi Daniel!
I have the same frame with DYS BE1806 motors, they provide plenty of power, even with 5x3 props. Running them with Emax 12A simonK escs. This setup is only 2 dollars more on banggood than the power system you use, so I think it's worth checking out.
Your flying skills are great, cool stuff. Keep it up.
Dude! You should try forming your own carbon fiber. A vacuum and heat, idk the details but I bet yours would be bad ass
I have the ZMR250 too, had many crashes but still going strong. BTW i didn't get it from Banggood, so not sure how the quality is compared with other sellers.
It seems there are various types, is yours the CF version? you should be able to see a continuity in the layers of the CF, if the colour changes toward the centre of the layers slightly then they are the composite type ;)
Great video Daniel 400ft crash..... OUCH!
Cool to see how technology and prices have changed in just two years
Never met anyone else with my first name! haha. Good to know I'm not the only one out there ;) Great video, bud.
These home builds must be driving the F.A.A crazy!
you sure do like to fly,thats wild
I have 4 ZMR250's and I love them!
hello! i've never build my own quadcopter before but have a ok understanding of how they work, i have a hubson X4 and i took it apart and worked on it but that's as far as iv got. if you could make a video or instructions on how to build one just like in the video but step by step. i have all the parts but im not 100% sure how they go together and dont want to brake/mess them all up. Thanks!
Nice review , liked
sweet flying too , have a great X-MAS
Thank you Daniel. I appreciate the links in the description as I am trying to get into the Quad-Copter hobby myself. PS my name is Daniel too :P
That was cool. Thanks. Hope you have more of the same to come. Rock on bro
Great flying and video. Mind sharing your PIDS?
I have the same setup but my default dampers don't get me those vibrations. I guess if you tighten the camera under the top plate instead of the camera plate then you will force down the dampers and they will reduce the vibrations a lot more, imho. I have post some videos with my setup, anyway.
Did you used the low quality parts when you filmed these video's? because that is really amazing :D congratz
Congrats!!! from Buenos Aires! always pro!
I wonder if that additional noise that starts at the 3:02 mark is all the wifi signal from the houses interfering with the audio signal. Great little build! Whats the average flight time?
I noticed you never showed a receiver hooked up to the board. Just curious how that setup worked for this! The receiver input pins are different on this compared to the regular Naze32.
Great vid man. I would have considered subbing if instead of the RC sounds that some soothing music were over everything. Thanks for posting and hope you make many more vids!
I would imagine that with the thinner air where you are, you could easily run some 5x4.5in props without hurting the motors. And what did you do to fix the stock Möbius vibrations?
I tossed the anti vibration balls and replaced them with 2 zip ties. Works well
Awesome, thanks
Yeah I bet I could use 6" props with no problem. I just used a layer of velcro for isolating the Mobius. It works well for isolating vibrations
Really? Never would've thought so
rctestflight You might could use the 6x3 props on those 1804 motors but I would not go anymore aggressive. I'd suggest moving up to the 1806 2300kva motors as they have much more thrust and can run the 6" props pretty easily plus they have better bearings and hold up well in crashes. another thing you can try is the 5x4 props, they give more thrust compared to the 5x3 props.
I would say he probably used his camera mount to fix vibration, Just curious what are you run times with this thing im very interested in building on of these. I like the whole mine quad setup
Great set up. Do you have the crash video?
rctestflight, I'm wondering if you are my neighbor: That little soccer park looks like one that I have flown in a few times right off from route 224 in Park City, UT.
if those were the stock props then they still did well when you let loose or perhaps your just a really good pilot
Using the ZMR250 frame as well, together with 12A AfroESCs from HK and comparably cheap motors.
It's my main mini quad as that's the only thing I can afford. Flies pretty good, footage is good with some foam instead of these terrible balls, but really underpowered for carrying FPV gear with an MWOSD setup.
What do you do for a living that allows you to spend so much disposable income on RC?
Hey first off awesome job on the channel. I am looking to host an fpv racing event for the first time in my hometown of Birmingham Alabama and I have to present a proposal to the park and recreation board members and the main concern I understand will be the safety of the spectators. I am asking for tips and ideas and how to accomplish this in the most efficient and cost effective way. Thanks in advance
Love your vids. At first I was like, "why water proof...huh?" Then I saw why at 1:40.
i see you're standing outside of your car. Can you sit in the warm car with the doors closed and still be able to have a good signal to fly?
I have a HJ450 quad, but I am interested in trying the 250 size.. I like the idea of getting everything from Banggood.. would you do the same build again?
hay nice quad would that be a good first one
Epoxy your electronic? You're not having chemical reaction with the PCB and components? How do you handle having to resolder things?
Try the DYS 1806 2300kv black edition motors from banggood. On 4s they are a beast
Get the HQProp 5x4.5 Blunt Nose. They are freaking insane props.
and brittle as you like ;)
MartinezUAV - HighflyingRC That's a good thing though. You know when they are broken, where plastic props can be bent and you don't even notice until they break mid flight.
This is true with cheaper blades, have not had that problem with HQ props. I can get away without breaking blades with the hq5040's a lot, first crash with the 5045's and they all exploded on impact :D
Ah ok, I will have to try the plastic HQ props. The ones I'm thinking of are Gemfans :)
Adam Wilkinson Ahhh yeah I tried the gemfans on the weekend(latest vid). They're cheap so wasn't surprised to find lots of stress marks and broke about 5 or 6 i think, also they need balancing unlike the HQ props which i find impossible to balance as they are so good :D
I have watched this before...I am basically building a clone of your clone. Taken me several weeks to get the parts. I fly the small quads (SYMA, HUBSAN), so want to try the PRO stuff. Sorry to hear about your crash - You didn't talk about how you stopped the "JELLO". Are there better isolators?? also did you rubber isolate your controller. I bought the FLIP32 board. I know the NAZA is better, but I wanted something that I could experiment on. Hope it works. Thanks for your effort!
After building, flying and crashing this... do you still think it is a good deal? I like the prices on Banggood, but if I buy my parts from someone like BuddyRC, they will warranty the SunnySky motors for a year and they are in Ohio so shipping is much faster. It seems that at the end of your video you are advocating buying a Blackout frame anyway. Just curious if buying a cheap no-name Chinese starter is really more cost effective than buying from a US manufacturer/distributor with a phone number. That and I like supporting our local distributors... :) Great review! Clear skies!
Just curious Daniel, Im pretty sure your busy now that your quad copter vids have blown up. Where did you go for info on your PID settings?? trial and error or any helpful sources?
The "PowerSysyem" package you have quoted only has 2x motors. Do you just add another 2 motors? Or do you buy 2x "Popwer Packs"
Nice Vid , i am having allot of fun with my ZMR , the problem i have is that i need to point the #16 cam UP to see where i am flying and its hard to make a mount that eliminate the vibrations .. You have any idea's ?
Did you balance your props , your zmr is so silent
Wish i had an area like that that i could fly around
Nice videos man, Im getting into fpv and would like to know why you and other people use two cameras for fpv like why cant you just use the mobius video out for fpv, too high of a resolution?
I'm just getting into flying quadcopters and found your video very helpful, I wanna build my own quad but I don't know how to put any of the stuff together. And I also want to build it for the cheapest price, if anybody could help me with this, that would be awesome! Thank you in advance!
i too want to do that :)
WolfUniqe www.banggood.com/QAV250-250mm-Mini-FPV-Quadcopter-Carbon-Fiber-Frame-Kit-QAV250-p-941819.html I have almost decided on this one. Now with a carbon frame. Thats N Z dollars by the way, Criticism of my choice cheerfully accepted. Cheers.
ye i saw a lot of reviews on that qav250 chinese version its not as quite as good as lumenier but for a beginner its just perfect I m thinking to order one but I m afraid i dont have the time not even the tools to put all pieces together cuz I move alot with my work so I m thinking to order an luminier qav250 RTF from amazon for about 500$
WolfUniqe Nice, and you can get a carry case for it. We seem to agree on what sort of quad to fly, luckily I have time and workshop space, but you will probably be flying before me.
Nice build. What's your PID's please ?
Great video! If you were to build this quad today, what motors would you buy now? Would it still be the Micro Muscles? I just ordered this frame and would like to get a motor that's good enough to use on the next higher quality frame I eventually upgrade to. I'd greatly appreciate your input on this. Thanks in advance.
Very nice,now where`s Quinn??
wait is this deer valley??? I saw the slope Rose, and I thought you were taking it up either Lucky Bill or White Owl. Is it just me or am I right?
HI Daniel any chance the blackout is coming soon? and can you do a naze 32 setup
Thanks for another cool vid. Can I ask your mobius settings please as I cans my get such good quality video from mine. Thanks heaps. CP
You can't composite carbon and GRP... it's cheaper to make either or....ZMR is carbon, it's just more resin than carbon.
They do make a GRP one too.
Fun video!
rctestflight ***** Could you tell me the flight time you got with this setup? Also, is everything plug and play (servo and bullet connectors) ? Great video's! Thanks for your help!
I have the stock vibration isolator balls, and they work just fine =/ Maby you got other on yours?
I also have the mobius on top.
exelent video , that really helps me out ;) keep up the good work!
Would using a higher mAh rated lipo battery with the same number of cells and C rating reduce the issues you were having with it getting too hot?
Say 2200mAh.
hehe i was finally understand you buy in banggood.com but the transmitter where I buy help me please oooo and radio control too.
Naze32 and Frame can't be found on Banggood .
How much is the total weight of the 250 mini quad (including mobius camera)? I'm asking because in some countries there are restrictions that only apply after a certain amount e.g. in Switzerland, less than 500g it's not considered a drone and you can fly it everywhere. Thanks for sharing this info ;)
First xD ! Very good video ! Keep it up !
Nice job on the quad! I have a question-- I can not get the cc3d board to hook up. It gives me the warning that it is waiting for the board to be connected, and I must manually update board with the plug in. Can not fly--any ideas?
Why don't you just use the Mobius for FPV? Wouldn't it save weight?
Did you have programmed the flightcontroller or just used it out of the box?
I already spent almost $200 building my own quad.. What would be a cheaper option for a remote that works with the radio link receiver?
This place is beautiful. Where is this?
anyone know where i can get the rcmc micro muscle motors from or have any other ideas on what i can use?
buildrcdrones.com
Where do you live? I don't want to ha a stalker but a lot alof people are saying that the quad doesn't fly well from the thin air. I live at a high elevation as well and maybe instead of getting the normal battery I may use a 30-35c one.
You have just converted me, i think i will start racing.
You didn't say how Lawson's plane ended up.?
You said in this video that your quad seemed underpowered, how would you address that? I'm looking to build one and I'm trying to address any issues before I pick out all the parts
Bro... You should really check out the Quadlugs.com. They have a cheap but rockin 250 as well as all kinds of other frames....
how !much does it cost altogether
how much does that quad cost with everything..? looks cool
Too bad about the quad, but you got some awesome footage!
i got those motors and esc's but the reverse esc's start beepeing after a couple of seconds do you know that problem?
Building my first 250mm quad, should i go with kk2,naza32,cc3d. And why. Thanks!
need to do some PID tuning
I had that quad!
any alternate batteries that will work just as good?
FWIW, the blackout is a 220 sized frame rather than 250 ;)
i know right? BL mini-H also has a pdb so don't understand why people keep calling this a 'clone'
MartinezUAV - HighflyingRC Yeah. You can't deny that this is heavily inspired by the blackout, but it's far from a clone.
Also I am wondering how you mounted your motors.
Reason being the screws provided are 2.6mm and designed to attach to a 2.2mm thick base.
Reference : (under "washer needed" section) www.banggood.com/-X-Power-1804-2400KV-Micro-Integration-Outrunner-Brushless-Motor-p-923424.html
And the ZMR legs are 3.1mm thick.
Reference : (picture) www.banggood.com/H250-ZMR250-250mm-Carbon-Fiber-Mini-Quadcopter-Multicopter-Frame-Kit-p-933185.html
naze32 from banggood?? I don't see that anywhere on their site.
www.banggood.com/Naze32-Flight-Controller-With-32-bit-STM32-for-Multicopter-p-949256.html
Brian Evans
hmm.... well ok, I guess. I suppose it depends who you listen to, and how pedantic you are: "What isn't Naze32: Flip32, Nanj32 and similar stuff that's been based on the published rev4 schematic is not Naze32. You can generally tell by the soldering, pcb and silk quality" code.google.com/p/afrodevices/wiki/AfroFlight32
Funny that naze32 is in the URL for that item, but they seem to have removed all other traces of 'naze32' from their site :) I bet it works just fine though.
Do you have to buy four of the power systems to get 4 motors?