What the FRET! My Blades Keep Breaking! - How to set up and use a fret saw - Knew Concepts

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  • Опубликовано: 12 окт 2023
  • In this video we look at how to set up and use the 5" Knew Concepts Fret Saw. If your blades keep breaking or slipping watch this!
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  • @KnewConcepts
    @KnewConcepts 2 месяца назад +1

    Outstanding video! I just found it. For those watching this, I'm the guy who designed the saw he's holding. This is one of the best instructional videos about our saws I've seen. So yes, you can trust his info. One bit of insider knowledge: if you need to really crank the blade clamps down, the centers of the clamp knobs have holes. Hidden at the bottom of those holes are sockets for 5/64" allen wrenches. So if you need the clamps *really* tight, try cranking them down with an allen wrench. -Brian Meek, Knew Concepts.

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  2 месяца назад

      You made my day!
      I didn't know that about the allen key, I haven't needed if but it's good to know. Thank you!! And thank you for designing this saw!!

    • @KnewConcepts
      @KnewConcepts 2 месяца назад +1

      @@BatCaveCreations The original truss frames were Lee Marshall's idea, I just re-engineered them to make them a whole lot stronger. But I'm glad so many people are using them to make great stuff. You shouldn't spend your time fighting your gear. That old saying about 'a good craftsperson never blames their tools?'. BS. Clearly said by someone who's never attempted brain surgery with a chainsaw. Sometimes, you really do need the *right* tool for a job.

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  2 месяца назад

      @KnewConcepts 10000% agree!! When I get frustrated with a tool, I mess up my project. Every. Single. Time.
      After so many mistakes, I learned lol
      And the sales peope at Handworks got me with the quote "it's the last fret saw you will ever need" which is very true!!

    • @KnewConcepts
      @KnewConcepts 2 месяца назад

      @@BatCaveCreations That was either me or my wife. You'd be surprised what a small company we really are. We punch *way* above our weight.

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  2 месяца назад

      @@KnewConcepts I didn't realize that! It was your wife but you and I filmed a clip together. It's in this video ruclips.net/video/zbxylxHutc0/видео.htmlsi=kcx1_Jbh6_w5vzsE around 7.44!

  • @fredpierce6097
    @fredpierce6097 9 месяцев назад +6

    One of the key causes of blade breakage is that you must make any directional change of cut during the actual cutting stroke and not during the non-cutting (withdrawal) stroke.

  • @chifferrobe1910
    @chifferrobe1910 6 месяцев назад

    You have become my go to guy on hand tools. And I watch a ton of of RUclips videos 😊

  • @SandyMasquith
    @SandyMasquith 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you!!! Finally an explanation on the Knew Concepts. I’ve been fighting it, breaking blades, slipping blades. Now I think I understand what I was doing wrong. I really appreciate your videos. Great content and very good explanations. :)

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!!! Happy to help and glad I helped!!!!

  • @philipmadden2577
    @philipmadden2577 9 месяцев назад

    Great video. I picked up one of these second hand and I haven’t used it because I had so many questions. You covered them all. Thanks.

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      Thats awesome! I'm happy to hear that! GET SAWIN!

  • @joekindon3935
    @joekindon3935 9 месяцев назад

    I feel called out right now!

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      Hahhaa ur calling yourself out right NOW hahahah

  • @michaelnorman5640
    @michaelnorman5640 2 месяца назад

    I’m sold thanks for sharing have watched this multiple times on the tv channel trying to decide for about 3 months guessing I’m going this way being there sale price today on Amazon is $114 looks like normal price I believe it was $128 a few months back

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  2 месяца назад

      I do the same thing when I decide on a purchase haha research, watch, read FOREVER till I finally decide and usually a sale helps push me one way too hahaha happy to help! Let me know how you like it!

  • @timothymallon
    @timothymallon 9 месяцев назад +1

    This reminds me of the same lesson I learned using a scroll saw. DONT PUSH HARD! I went through so many scroll saw blades years ago by pushing my work, thinking it would cut faster. It just made my wallet emptier every time I had to buy more blades

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      100% agree! One of my first main tools was a scroll saw deff a lesson learned. You can't always manhandle woodworking tools hahaha

  • @blayne2029
    @blayne2029 9 месяцев назад

    nice. i will be pulling up this video when i mess with the blade :)

  • @geoffthompson2728
    @geoffthompson2728 9 месяцев назад +2

    What are your thoughts on spiral blades???

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад +1

      I haven't tried them in this fret saw yet but LOVED them in the scroll saw and my old fret saw. I gotta pick up a pack and give em a go again!

  • @georgethayer3533
    @georgethayer3533 2 месяца назад

    $300 coping saw that nuts

  • @danthechippie4439
    @danthechippie4439 9 месяцев назад

    Nice review, should the blade not be at an angle to the saw so the neck of the saw clears the work piece?

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you! With this saw you can adjust the blade I think 180* to go to the angle you want. Not all can with others you may use pliers to bend the blade

  • @bobnicholas1088
    @bobnicholas1088 9 месяцев назад

    Where did you get your black oversized handle?

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад +1

      It's an assessors on the site. It's a grip that sliders over the handle

  • @jaimegutierrez6055
    @jaimegutierrez6055 9 месяцев назад

    I have the thin blades too, keep breaking, can’t seem to find the thicker blades uve shown? Link pls?

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      Here you go! I get them from Knew concepts directly, cheeper than Amazon from what I was seeing
      www.knewconcepts.com/woodworkers-saw-blades.php

    • @jaimegutierrez6055
      @jaimegutierrez6055 9 месяцев назад

      Ty very much

  • @nathanr6381
    @nathanr6381 Месяц назад

    Hey, just bught a £40 fret saw off amazon and it's basically a copy of this. I've tried with like 5 blades now and without fail, every time, i end up snapping the flat part of the blade where the screws tighten over. I go really lightly on the screws but still it snaps. The problem is if I go too light then the blade pops out even on a low tension.
    I managed to get to a point where the saw was lightly fixed in place but there's so much give in the blade it's basically unusuable. I figure I must be doing something wrong but I'm not sure what. In all fairness the blades are thinner than the ones you're using but this shouldn't be happening every time.
    The blades im using are bought seperately, faithful brand. The ones that came with the saw fit in ok but are a weird type of blade. They're like twisted so the teath point out at all angles

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  Месяц назад +1

      Hey!
      The blades that came with the saw are called spiral blades, they have their place in the shop!
      For the blades braking, does the saw snap the spiral blade? If it does it could be an issue with the saw are there burs around the clamps or anything there? Not flat? Ect?

    • @nathanr6381
      @nathanr6381 Месяц назад

      @@BatCaveCreations thanks for the reply! The spiral ones seem to be ok. I don't know if they are all like this but the spiral continues the full length of the blade so maybe that somehow makes it less likely to break when pressure is applied with the screws.
      I'm gonna do a bit more digging tomorrow, I'm UK time zone so it's midnight here haha. I'll update you on what I can see if that is ok? Thanks for the help anyway, usually rare to get replies on old videos with other channels lol

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  Месяц назад +1

      @nathanr6381 ya, that is making me think there is something off about the clamps where the blades go in. Dive into it tomorrow and let me know! I'll help if I can! Get some sleep!!

    • @nathanr6381
      @nathanr6381 Месяц назад

      @@BatCaveCreations going to return it I think. Seems to be one side more prone to breaking the blades than the other so I'm not too sure. Going to probably save up for the one you're using. Starting woodworking this seems an all to common problem, buying cheaper stuff and being disappointed. Same thing happened with a band saw I bought but don't even get me started on that 🤣 I think when you're starting out you think cheap means it's entry level too but usually it just means you're gonna have to be even more experienced to counter all the problems you run into

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  Месяц назад +1

      @nathanr6381 I thought the same way! And then slowly upgraded all of my tools. I have different thinking now, buy the best you can afford because these will last your lifetime and beyond. At the same time, vintage is a good way to go too if you want to save some cash and put work into them. That's another trade off. Spend lots or spend little and put work in but don't go cheep (for most tools) hahaha

  • @tonydaniels8394
    @tonydaniels8394 9 месяцев назад

    Are you cutting shovetails there

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      Yes but not like true dovetails lol I just did random angle cuts so I could fret our the waste

    • @tonydaniels8394
      @tonydaniels8394 9 месяцев назад

      I know, I was just kidding. Keep up the good work

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      Hahaha thank you! Sorry I missed that :D I get it now tho hahaha

  • @fredpierce6097
    @fredpierce6097 9 месяцев назад

    Not a bad video considering Jamie wasn’t overly “fretful”during his demonstrations.

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад +1

      Hahhaah I recorded a bunch of shots of me breaking blades on purpose and it was obvious I was doing it on purpose like one of thise lame infomercials hahahah

    • @fredpierce6097
      @fredpierce6097 9 месяцев назад

      @@BatCaveCreations keep that footage for a future “Bloopers” release. We would all enjoy watching you screw up a bunch of things…..

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      @@fredpierce6097 hahahahha ull love the video I'm working on now then. Have to scrap an entire project hahahahahha

  • @sergeyshorokhov2167
    @sergeyshorokhov2167 9 месяцев назад

    У меня такой же лобзик. Это лучшее, что можно купить. Он немного дороговат, но в моём случае достался мне в качестве подарка от моей девушки.

    • @BatCaveCreations
      @BatCaveCreations  9 месяцев назад

      I agree! And it's the last saw ull ever need to buy!!