I am using compact Scandi lines steelheading in GL tribs. 32' at max. Easy to cast, slow swing, accurate when dealing with trees. Currently using Guideline 4d and Compact bodies and tips.
Interesting. In Scandinavia, skagit lines have been marketed towards beginners because anyone can cast them. I think that the short skagit lines like Airflo Scout are the best thing that has ever happened to beginner spey casters. You can really do everything wrong and it still shoots.
Great Tim 👍 Scandi line is what I'm fish whit as I'm from Sweden Scandinavia... The rule of not longer then 3 times the rod is a good rule. Bigger rods can trow longer lines ! I say try Guideline compact short Scandinavia head. I often use the 530-570gr for a 13,6'. They made that series even shorter now because of the reason you just told. I recommend them and they are ready to go just add the leader. From float to sink 7" sliding density and even those who sink fast has floating back part to achieve better swing and easy your lift for a new cast! Order and try those you will see how good they are.... My choice of all Scandinavia lines...... Best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪
I use an Lts 31ft head with 12ft Hardy rocket tips & they fly out on my Loop cross 12.2 7w. Just on the border of moving between underhand & Spey casting but fantastic to use & can cover a fair amount of water.
hi Tim first of all thank you for the videos it is gold for beginners like me. but i am very interested in the rod you are using in this video, do you have a link where to buy one of those ?
Hey Tim, I've only got two seasons of switch rod casting under my belt, so I barely know what I'm talking about, but I'd appreciate your take on when to use and when not to use a Polyleader. I was sold a 450 grain Rage head with my rod, and it's right in the mid-point of the #7 rod's recommended Scandi weight (TFO Axiom II). I was also sold a 14' floating Polyleader to go with it. Needless to say, with my inexperience I have yet to make a great cast. I did buy the new Rio Scandi Launch head but found the transition screwed me up and our fishing season ended before I could really give it a proper assessment. It's five feet longer than the Rage, but I'm loathe to cut a new line back! I'll spend the winter watching RUclips videos and next spring I'll experiment with a plain mono leader. There are so many variables here for a newbie! Thanks for all your videos!
If you cut the front taper of SCANDI line, it will become Skagit head? I use SCANDI head since the thin front taper of SCANDI head does not spook fish.
Works great with your american scandi style rods. It was the most popular line here in Scandiland for many years, but we have them in every density from float to s6. (Yes, sink 6 belly.) Now Nextcast Zone and core are the best scandi lines available. Zone is similar to the scandi body, but rolls out smoother.
Makes no sense to me, cutting off the butt end of a scandi line. If you know how to underhanded or single Spey you can easily cast a full scandi with a 17 foot leader. Most Americans over line. Anything over 420 grains on a 7 weight is overkill.
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlinsyou’re right. You lost me when you started talking about cutting lines. So, I went back and watched the whole thing. I guess throwing a sub 34 foot scandi line on an American made rod makes perfect sense. If you’ve ever casted a true, fast action scandi rod you’d probably rethink your approach. Try a Loop 7X with the SDS line, floating, sink 3, and sink 5. You’ll probably throw everything else in the garbage. Effortless in the wind and throwing on the Deschutes, waist deep with a wall of trees a foot away from your backside. Bottom line, match a scandi line with a scandi rod and it will perform. 😊
My favorite Scandi rod is my Guideline Lecie. I had th loop Gass 2 but it was to soft for me. Lecie is my all time favorite rod. Which rivers do you fish?
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins I’ve never casted a Guideline but hear they are nice. Rivers I fish? Well, I will say that I buy annual licenses in Oregon, Idaho, and Canada and I live in Washington. I fish roughly 200 days a year. I don’t like casting Skagit lines but I will if necessary. Also, I’m not a long belly fan because I can fish a scandi line in almost any situation and get the job done. I do appreciate the long belly cast though. It’s a thing of beauty.
@@cyotesniper Nice! You are definitely living the dream. I love my Lecie. Does not bend much and the line jumps off it. It’s the 8/9 4 piece. I had the 7/8 but it didn’t work. I feel fortunate the 8/9 worked. It has a wide grain window and casts light lines. Glad to hear the state of Steelheading is such that you can spend so much time on the water. I love casting the long lines because they are a great challenge and improve my skill set for all casting. But for fishing I use very short shooting heads. I just picked up a Guideline compact power taper 3d shooting head In anxious to fish and cast. Thanks for weighing in on my channel.
I am using compact Scandi lines steelheading in GL tribs. 32' at max. Easy to cast, slow swing, accurate when dealing with trees. Currently using Guideline 4d and Compact bodies and tips.
Preach the Scandi gospel Tim! I love the Scandi bodies by Rio and Loop's SDS System is the bees knees!
Thanks! And thanks for the tip about Loops SDS!
Interesting. In Scandinavia, skagit lines have been marketed towards beginners because anyone can cast them. I think that the short skagit lines like Airflo Scout are the best thing that has ever happened to beginner spey casters. You can really do everything wrong and it still shoots.
Your newest video just showed in my feed Tim so thanks for addressing my questions directly. Great and to the point advice for me to follow.
My pleasure! Thanks for the great question!
Great Tim 👍
Scandi line is what I'm fish whit as I'm from Sweden Scandinavia...
The rule of not longer then 3 times the rod is a good rule.
Bigger rods can trow longer lines !
I say try Guideline compact short Scandinavia head.
I often use the 530-570gr for a 13,6'.
They made that series even shorter now because of the reason you just told.
I recommend them and they are ready to go just add the leader.
From float to sink 7" sliding density and even those who sink fast has floating back part to achieve better swing and easy your lift for a new cast!
Order and try those you will see how good they are....
My choice of all Scandinavia lines......
Best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪
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I use an Lts 31ft head with 12ft Hardy rocket tips & they fly out on my Loop cross 12.2 7w.
Just on the border of moving between underhand & Spey casting but fantastic to use & can cover a fair amount of water.
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Sorry about the wind and the audio. Check out the time stamps
hi Tim
first of all thank you for the videos it is gold for beginners like me.
but i am very interested in the rod you are using in this video, do you have a link where to buy one of those ?
Love your straight forward videos Tim. Hey when you cut a head back do you weld a loop back on or just nail knot it?
Eather will work or you can strip the pvc off the core and put a loop in it
Hey Tim, I've only got two seasons of switch rod casting under my belt, so I barely know what I'm talking about, but I'd appreciate your take on when to use and when not to use a Polyleader. I was sold a 450 grain Rage head with my rod, and it's right in the mid-point of the #7 rod's recommended Scandi weight (TFO Axiom II). I was also sold a 14' floating Polyleader to go with it. Needless to say, with my inexperience I have yet to make a great cast. I did buy the new Rio Scandi Launch head but found the transition screwed me up and our fishing season ended before I could really give it a proper assessment. It's five feet longer than the Rage, but I'm loathe to cut a new line back! I'll spend the winter watching RUclips videos and next spring I'll experiment with a plain mono leader. There are so many variables here for a newbie! Thanks for all your videos!
Why he sound like Colin Robinson?
If you cut the front taper of SCANDI line, it will become Skagit head? I use SCANDI head since the thin front taper of SCANDI head does not spook fish.
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Thanks for the great video Tim! What’s your thought on the Rio scandi versitip line?
Check out the Gaelforce multi tip, bit cheaper and apparently made by Rio. Better casting than the Rio in my eyes.
It’s awesome. If I could only have one line system for year round fishing RSVT would be an excellent choice!
Works great with your american scandi style rods. It was the most popular line here in Scandiland for many years, but we have them in every density from float to s6. (Yes, sink 6 belly.) Now Nextcast Zone and core are the best scandi lines available. Zone is similar to the scandi body, but rolls out smoother.
Makes no sense to me, cutting off the butt end of a scandi line. If you know how to underhanded or single Spey you can easily cast a full scandi with a 17 foot leader. Most Americans over line. Anything over 420 grains on a 7 weight is overkill.
Apparently you didn’t watch the entire video.
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlinsyou’re right. You lost me when you started talking about cutting lines. So, I went back and watched the whole thing. I guess throwing a sub 34 foot scandi line on an American made rod makes perfect sense. If you’ve ever casted a true, fast action scandi rod you’d probably rethink your approach. Try a Loop 7X with the SDS line, floating, sink 3, and sink 5. You’ll probably throw everything else in the garbage. Effortless in the wind and throwing on the Deschutes, waist deep with a wall of trees a foot away from your backside. Bottom line, match a scandi line with a scandi rod and it will perform. 😊
My favorite Scandi rod is my Guideline Lecie. I had th loop Gass 2 but it was to soft for me. Lecie is my all time favorite rod. Which rivers do you fish?
@@LineSpeedJediTimRawlins I’ve never casted a Guideline but hear they are nice. Rivers I fish? Well, I will say that I buy annual licenses in Oregon, Idaho, and Canada and I live in Washington. I fish roughly 200 days a year. I don’t like casting Skagit lines but I will if necessary. Also, I’m not a long belly fan because I can fish a scandi line in almost any situation and get the job done. I do appreciate the long belly cast though. It’s a thing of beauty.
@@cyotesniper Nice! You are definitely living the dream. I love my Lecie. Does not bend much and the line jumps off it. It’s the 8/9 4 piece. I had the 7/8 but it didn’t work. I feel fortunate the 8/9 worked. It has a wide grain window and casts light lines. Glad to hear the state of Steelheading is such that you can spend so much time on the water. I love casting the long lines because they are a great challenge and improve my skill set for all casting. But for fishing I use very short shooting heads. I just picked up a Guideline compact power taper 3d shooting head In anxious to fish and cast. Thanks for weighing in on my channel.