Glad to see the Vaio line making a comeback. Selling laptops in the 00s, it was one of my favorite WIndows laptops. They tried taking a lot of premium Macbook features and incorporating them. They looked far better than the sea of HPs and Gateway laptops we carried as well, but there was a premium price. I usually recommended them for customers for the premium build and lack of bloatware pre-installed. Wish Sony was still making these but if the new manufacturer can hold up the quality end it won't matter
Right now a ~2012 Sony VAIO SVE14A27CXH is my only Laptop, and not a Windows, but a Linux laptop. I have Linux on all my computers (accept for my 1985 Macintosh Lisa😁)! Why put the poor things through Windows? That's just mean!! I got it used for ~$50, with everything working accept for having to replace the power input plug on the charger, because someone's dog chewed it off and they replaced it with the wrong one. It worked sort of, but kept popping out for being the wrong one of two different lengths so I replaced it. For it's age, it feels ahead of it's time, and just replacing the 1TB HDD it came with for an SSD sped it up a huge amount. I upgraded the RAM from 8GB to 16 GB, and for the rare occasion I have to go away from home for a few days, or just want to bum out in the back yard with my barbecue and some good wine it's more than sufficient, and actually very snappy using Arch Linux and KDE Plasma. Lets just say it still smokes any modern tablet, and the sound is still better than many newer laptops (A Sony thing).
I see the ones form back in the day often on marketplace. I've been tempted to take out the internals and use the shell for a new build. But it seems a shame to do so in a way
Vaio never left, and they still make some laptops in Japan, but not the F series, I believe they're made by the same people who make the new Gateway laptops.
@@TechGuyBeau At the time many were already all soldered down!🤬 A-Holes!!!😡 I sure hope what framework is doing catches on harder.🧐 There's a little more open source hardware, but not nearly enough.🙁
Why would it not be worth considering, if your needs match the laptop's characteristics? I think Dell has better production quality than Chinese or Taiwanese laptops.
For such an 85k tech reviewer, the: 0:01 "VOW" of VAIO (バイオ -> Ba-i-o -> Ba-yo) and 5:14 "Kensington" of Kingston SSD (never heard of a "raycon" brand of SSD too wtf?) is such an r/confidentlyincorrect material
So called modern systems appear to be like McDondalds disposable cups - Although you could use them for a year - For a couple of hundred I got an 8 year old Gigabyte Aero 14 inch with (i7-7700HQ 2.8 - 3.8 GHz, GTX 1050 Ti, QHD) with NVMe and Dual-Channel upgradable and REMOVABLE RAM running Win 11, and while watching RUclips the processor runs between 1.5 to 2%, and the cores don't exceed 27 degrees - It's even got USB C and Thunderbolt 3 and has a metal case.
I think that the F series VAIO laptop's were Sony's gaming laptops but at the time they were quite underpowered for what they were. Nowadays, it's kind of disappointing to see how the F series steered towards content creation (they seem to be still very underpowered)
Excellent news! But I'm disappointed that Sony isn't directly responsible for making them, only licensing them. That sort of sounds like Thinkpad laptops and Motorola smartphones being manufactured by Lenovo now. Not really the same thing but ok.
Unpopular opinion of someone who had many Sony Vaio in their hands in 2010-2012: although they had magnesium chassis and renounced the plastic, they were of a very poor quality, they spoiled physically fast, hard hinges, bad architecture and little replacement, still still I have a diverse i3 Ivy Bridge saved with all its destroyed housing, I could simply not find one for spare and replace the housing. Dell or Toshiba were much more solid and cheap.
Completely incorrect. Sony Vaio laptops that I have repaired were physically well-made and I saw a lot of very old laptops in perfect mechanical working order. The problems with them were: poor software support and very high price. Toshiba, towards the end of their run in the laptop business, had crazy amounts of issues with hinges breaking. Dell, well, they are Dell, they have good options and corporate contracts but some Dell models are more challenging to repair, almost as if to spite IT departments. Recent Dells have gotten easier to work on, some models.
@@KhanhDinh291 Sony spun them off because a bunch of finance bros took a stake in Sony and demanded Hartard Business School nonsense, such as spin-offs to create short-term profits. Reminds me of many years ago when the same investment company (I believe it was Third Point) kept bothering Intel, and finally the Intel CEO, who had a masters in Electrical Engineering, asked the leader of Third Point Capital what he knew about circuit designs with his Bachelors degree in Economics.
I was a big fan of VAIO, but around 2007 they started to lower the quality and leave the premium prices. People quickly realized they were being ripped off. SONY withdrew from the market. The name was sold and for 10 years another company has been making laptops based on the old designs. They just add new components.
VAIO brand is still owned by Sony. They also have a minority stake in the new company. VAIO span off (became independent from Sony in 2014) and it's currently majority owned by "Japan Industrial Partners". Other similar cases in the laptop-sphere: Toshiba and Dynabook; IBM and the Think Series (now Lenovo);
Interesting. Not a fan of soldered RAM and I will never support it in anything outside of a handheld device. It would be nice to see more gaming related footage as just path of exile doesn't mean much to me. Thanks for the video.
Well, you have a problem. Intel Ultra processors for current generation laptops are a system on the chip. RAM is permanently soldered. Thanks to this, you gain speed and lower power consumption.
@@nnnnnn3647 I replied to you, but for some reason it got disappeared. Let's see if it will stay this time. I have no problem. It's sad that you think I have. I am the customer. If I don't like this product, I will buy another. There are always options. Thankfully we have capitalism.
@@nnnnnn3647 ok, 3rd time is the charm? I replied to you, but for some reason it got disappeared. Let's see if it will stay this time. I have no problem. It's sad that you think I have. I am the customer. If I don't like this product, I will buy another. There are always options. Thankfully we have capitalism.
Last time seeing VAIO was in 2021 😅😅😅. They announced Laptop featuring Intel Tiger Lake that was powerful Btw, this brand was under Sony, but then become independent company
- It's too thick, especially considering it doesn't have a dedicated GPU - The bezels on the screen are too thick and look dared. - It has last gen intel CPU It's a pass from me.
It is not pronounced as "Vow", but Vi-Yo
Also, how he called a Kingston nvme, a Kensington
Yep. Because I had just spoke about the "Kensington" lock slot. Human brains are funny aren't they
My dad had vaio laptop...it was our first laptop...we still had (10+yrs)
Glad to see the Vaio line making a comeback. Selling laptops in the 00s, it was one of my favorite WIndows laptops. They tried taking a lot of premium Macbook features and incorporating them. They looked far better than the sea of HPs and Gateway laptops we carried as well, but there was a premium price. I usually recommended them for customers for the premium build and lack of bloatware pre-installed. Wish Sony was still making these but if the new manufacturer can hold up the quality end it won't matter
Right now a ~2012 Sony VAIO SVE14A27CXH is my only Laptop, and not a Windows, but a Linux laptop. I have Linux on all my computers (accept for my 1985 Macintosh Lisa😁)! Why put the poor things through Windows? That's just mean!!
I got it used for ~$50, with everything working accept for having to replace the power input plug on the charger, because someone's dog chewed it off and they replaced it with the wrong one. It worked sort of, but kept popping out for being the wrong one of two different lengths so I replaced it. For it's age, it feels ahead of it's time, and just replacing the 1TB HDD it came with for an SSD sped it up a huge amount. I upgraded the RAM from 8GB to 16 GB, and for the rare occasion I have to go away from home for a few days, or just want to bum out in the back yard with my barbecue and some good wine it's more than sufficient, and actually very snappy using Arch Linux and KDE Plasma. Lets just say it still smokes any modern tablet, and the sound is still better than many newer laptops (A Sony thing).
I want to see the Vaio Desktop PCs reappear
I see the ones form back in the day often on marketplace. I've been tempted to take out the internals and use the shell for a new build. But it seems a shame to do so in a way
@@TechGuyBeau yeah, gotta find a broken one
so it's not a shame for the parts
I had a Sony Vaio back in 2006 and I remember being really pissed that it couldn’t play World of Warcraft classic on low settings.
first!.... vaio is back? wtf
Vaio never left, and they still make some laptops in Japan, but not the F series, I believe they're made by the same people who make the new Gateway laptops.
Great review buddy
Thanks
I have a 14+ VAIO Laptop still in service. It looks a lot like that one. The processor and RAM are replaceable in mine.
Weren't those the days. I have a few thinkpads I've upgraded the cpu on
@@TechGuyBeau At the time many were already all soldered down!🤬 A-Holes!!!😡 I sure hope what framework is doing catches on harder.🧐 There's a little more open source hardware, but not nearly enough.🙁
Why does everything have to look like a macbook.
Because it's the ideal laptop.
Besides, VAIOs have looked like this for 20 years.
Is Dell Ispiron something to consider as a laptop?
the core ultra one with high colour space screen is very good ( i have a review coming)
@TechGuyBeau oh hyped for that ty 👍
Why would it not be worth considering, if your needs match the laptop's characteristics? I think Dell has better production quality than Chinese or Taiwanese laptops.
@arvaneret_329 there is a 14" one for 630 euros with ryzen 7 8840u which looks solid
it's va-yo not vow 🤦♂️
VH-A-HO
バイオ -> Ba-i-o -> Ba-yo
@@TechGuyBeauthis is r/confidentlyincorrect material
Nah it's English is fun territory
Hoping to have my MSI Claw 8 in whenever it launches 🎉
For such an 85k tech reviewer, the:
0:01 "VOW" of VAIO (バイオ -> Ba-i-o -> Ba-yo)
and
5:14 "Kensington" of Kingston SSD (never heard of a "raycon" brand of SSD too wtf?)
is such an r/confidentlyincorrect material
Cool cool
So called modern systems appear to be like McDondalds disposable cups - Although you could use them for a year - For a couple of hundred I got an 8 year old Gigabyte Aero 14 inch with (i7-7700HQ 2.8 - 3.8 GHz, GTX 1050 Ti, QHD) with NVMe and Dual-Channel upgradable and REMOVABLE RAM running Win 11, and while watching RUclips the processor runs between 1.5 to 2%, and the cores don't exceed 27 degrees - It's even got USB C and Thunderbolt 3 and has a metal case.
Depends on the brand tbh. Some Gigabyte models are really good and then others are hot trash 😅
NOT AVAILABLE ON THE VAIO WEBSITE
Not yet. It's coming out soon
more than 3 IO's are wonderful, but hope its durability is also great for the W
I think that the F series VAIO laptop's were Sony's gaming laptops but at the time they were quite underpowered for what they were. Nowadays, it's kind of disappointing to see how the F series steered towards content creation (they seem to be still very underpowered)
I don't think it's the Vaio SX-R. The design is very different from the Vaio SX-R, especially the hinge and touchpad.
What equalizer are you using please?
FX sound. Very useful
Excellent news! But I'm disappointed that Sony isn't directly responsible for making them, only licensing them. That sort of sounds like Thinkpad laptops and Motorola smartphones being manufactured by Lenovo now. Not really the same thing but ok.
Unpopular opinion of someone who had many Sony Vaio in their hands in 2010-2012: although they had magnesium chassis and renounced the plastic, they were of a very poor quality, they spoiled physically fast, hard hinges, bad architecture and little replacement, still still I have a diverse i3 Ivy Bridge saved with all its destroyed housing, I could simply not find one for spare and replace the housing. Dell or Toshiba were much more solid and cheap.
not unpopular at this point anymore. they got ditched by sony in 2014 for a reason
Completely incorrect. Sony Vaio laptops that I have repaired were physically well-made and I saw a lot of very old laptops in perfect mechanical working order. The problems with them were: poor software support and very high price. Toshiba, towards the end of their run in the laptop business, had crazy amounts of issues with hinges breaking. Dell, well, they are Dell, they have good options and corporate contracts but some Dell models are more challenging to repair, almost as if to spite IT departments. Recent Dells have gotten easier to work on, some models.
@@KhanhDinh291 Sony spun them off because a bunch of finance bros took a stake in Sony and demanded Hartard Business School nonsense, such as spin-offs to create short-term profits. Reminds me of many years ago when the same investment company (I believe it was Third Point) kept bothering Intel, and finally the Intel CEO, who had a masters in Electrical Engineering, asked the leader of Third Point Capital what he knew about circuit designs with his Bachelors degree in Economics.
the screeen is super reflective
Yeah it's glossy touch. Some love, some hate
I was a big fan of VAIO, but around 2007 they started to lower the quality and leave the premium prices. People quickly realized they were being ripped off. SONY withdrew from the market. The name was sold and for 10 years another company has been making laptops based on the old designs. They just add new components.
VAIO brand is still owned by Sony. They also have a minority stake in the new company. VAIO span off (became independent from Sony in 2014) and it's currently majority owned by "Japan Industrial Partners".
Other similar cases in the laptop-sphere:
Toshiba and Dynabook;
IBM and the Think Series (now Lenovo);
@@shadowman1988 Thank you for confirming my words. SONY has abandoned this brand, does not produce laptops and has sold the name to another company.
@@nnnnnn3647 I believe Sony has a 5 or 10% stake in Vaio still.
Vaio is still owned 5% by Sony and 95% by Japan Industrial Partner and Sony still owns the copyright to the brand
The vaio desktops in 2000s were super cool looking and expensive but they were crappy lol
I could never afford one to know 😩
That shift key...
Interesting. Not a fan of soldered RAM and I will never support it in anything outside of a handheld device.
It would be nice to see more gaming related footage as just path of exile doesn't mean much to me.
Thanks for the video.
Well, you have a problem. Intel Ultra processors for current generation laptops are a system on the chip. RAM is permanently soldered. Thanks to this, you gain speed and lower power consumption.
@@nnnnnn3647 I replied to you, but for some reason it got disappeared. Let's see if it will stay this time.
I have no problem. It's sad that you think I have. I am the customer. If I don't like this product, I will buy another. There are always options. Thankfully we have capitalism.
@@nnnnnn3647 ok, 3rd time is the charm?
I replied to you, but for some reason it got disappeared. Let's see if it will stay this time.
I have no problem. It's sad that you think I have. I am the customer. If I don't like this product, I will buy another. There are always options. Thankfully we have capitalism.
Basically it will perform near identically to a MSI claw
5:13 its Kingston!! NOT kensginton
Yep. People misspeak, especially after talking about a "Kensington" lock slot 😉
@@TechGuyBeaujeese tough audience 😂
Can you review the Vaio SX-R?
I might.
Test Asus Swift GO 16. Specs are good.
I cant believe you did the whole video calling it 'vow'
Vhaow emphasis on the H
Is it 100 percent adobe rgb?
It is not
You lost me at "Vaoh"
Cool cool
Last time seeing VAIO was in 2021 😅😅😅. They announced Laptop featuring Intel Tiger Lake that was powerful
Btw, this brand was under Sony, but then become independent company
That's not how you pronounce Vaio. It's not pronounced "wow." 😂
Meh. English is funny
Ah cool cant wait for another under powered over priced Sony pc
We got return of Vaio before GTA 6….
Bye-Oh. except it's V.
. I pronounce it "Vy-oh" no B.
Vaio damn
It's "Va-Yi-Yo" not "Vah-w." LOL!
That's how I've always said it. 👍
- It's too thick, especially considering it doesn't have a dedicated GPU
- The bezels on the screen are too thick and look dared.
- It has last gen intel CPU
It's a pass from me.
Last gen? Core ultra is current gen homie
@@TechGuyBeau 155h is last gen (Meteor Lake). The latest gen is Lunar Lake.
What the F is "VAW"? Hahahaha ! 🤣 It is pronounced "Vayo".
Acutually I said V-aoh. No F.
That's how I say it.
I guess its premium
uptime = 20 days, LOL wow
Not a great laptop: soldered RAM and only one m.2. Integrated GPU. I guess it depends on price. Might be better buying a used laptop.
...: there are 2x m.2 my man
The design is just apple copy
last gen cpu and reflective, not very bright screen is dealbreaker
its not last get... its Core Ultra 155h. Lunar lake is not a direct replacement, its a spin off product
Old processor 1 gen. Ultra.
The lunar lake CPU is a sidegrade not an upgrade
it's not valo, its va-yo
I don't pronounce it with a L. I say it as Va-Ow. It's just how I've always said it