Completely, that was Kyros entire purpose of hiring the executives that they did. Tim Sanders, featured in the segment, was also a former Minnesota legislature. Actually, if you look into him a little further -- you will find that he has questionable involvement in some current building projects in Blaine..
Darren Reed of DHS was instrumental in the formation of WECovery/Beyond Brink as well. Interestingly, their system looks quite similar to Kyros/Refocus Recovery set-up.
@@GabeOak78 and how coincidental could it be that the Executive Director of WECovery/Beyond Brink is appointed as “Citizen Representative” to the Nicollet County Board of Commissioners Advisory Board when I’m almost certain that organization profits from Nicollet County funding
This is fraud, I work as a medical coder with billing. This guy is unchanging and bribing. This is a huge no no under the medical billing practice. With my license for my job they are big on accurate reporting and no uncharge to get more money
He was more a figurehead and used for his political influence which was, to say the least, over-estimated. He did virtually nothing in the day-to-day operations of Refocus Recovery.
There are plenty of employment opportunities for all of these people to go into, we don’t need to have a society where people are incentivized to lie about personal care attendant hours.
Yes and no. Many Peer Recovery Specialists have criminal backgrounds that prevent them from a wide variety of employment opportunities. There are people that are genuinely wanting to turn their life around - one of the requirements to become a PRS is that you have lived experience with addiction, which often coincides with a criminal history. Add in to that a company that was willing to hire virtually any and everyone - incentivize billing, provide inaccurate information about what is able to be billed -- and even when it reaches the billing and compliance department, they green light it..well, you have a lovely stew thats ripe for fraud. The reporting on this is phenomenal, but the tactics and practices are even darker and dirtier than what's being reported. Be on the look out for more of these specials - and in case you didn't catch it, there is now a grand jury that has been convened.
@ thanks for correcting me on the proper term, PRS, let’s think of several industries, specifically in Minnesota, that these people could pivot into - retail of course, janitorial services, dietary aids, there is a lot of demand and low supply of labor in elderly care, package delivery, clearly if these people are fibbing about their hours it means there’s an artificial supply of these workers. We do need to reduce the stigma of criminal pasts and hiring, but our Minnesota society also creates these weird inflections points where there is almost too much forgiveness and people end up taking a bad path and think there’s a never ending safety net. If we keep propping up these artificial industries, Minnesota will falter, we have created an almost never ending supply of non profits, all government grant funded, none of which create anything, they just inflate our dollar, cheapen our society, reduce our government services, lessen the quality of our infrastructure, decay our neighborhoods, it’s not healthy for us to have so many fake companies, we have to create again.
@@RealTalkGeo It’s clear that you’re passionate about the future of Minnesota and the opportunities we provide to our communities. While I understand some of your concerns, I believe it’s important to address a few key points with nuance and empathy. First, regarding the industries you mentioned-retail, janitorial services, dietary aids, elderly care, and package delivery-it’s vital to recognize the value of transferable skills and the potential for upward mobility within these and other sectors. Peer Recovery Specialists (PRS) bring a wealth of lived experience, empathy, and problem-solving skills that can be invaluable across diverse industries, including mental health, education, and social services. These roles aren’t just jobs-they’re meaningful positions where individuals can create tangible change for others. Second, while reducing the stigma surrounding criminal pasts is a complex issue, it’s crucial to approach it with compassion and a focus on rehabilitation. Creating opportunities for individuals to reintegrate into the workforce doesn’t just benefit them-it strengthens our economy, reduces recidivism, and fosters safer communities. As for the broader critique of non-profits and grant-funded organizations, it’s worth noting that many of these entities fill critical gaps that private industries don’t address. They provide essential services-housing, mental health support, education, and more-that build a stronger foundation for society. While inefficiencies can exist in any sector, dismissing these organizations as "artificial industries" risks overlooking the vital work they do to uplift vulnerable populations and drive systemic change. Finally, your point about the need to "create again" is an excellent one. Innovation and sustainable economic growth are essential. However, building a thriving Minnesota requires a multi-faceted approach that includes fostering entrepreneurship, supporting the workforce, and investing in infrastructure. Non-profits and government programs can-and often do-play complementary roles in these efforts.
@@RealTalkGeo If Minnesota wants to succeed, they will make proactive and reactive steps to ensure our collective prosperity. Minnesota needs to remember its goals, desires, and necessities. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
This is great reporting. I hope this gains traction. Dirty politicians, judges and former procecutors
good investigating reporting
Corruption all over the country.
This is disgusting. Where is our oversight???
DHS isn’t asleep at the wheel. They’re friends and colleagues of the people running these recovery businesses.
Completely, that was Kyros entire purpose of hiring the executives that they did. Tim Sanders, featured in the segment, was also a former Minnesota legislature. Actually, if you look into him a little further -- you will find that he has questionable involvement in some current building projects in Blaine..
Darren Reed of DHS was instrumental in the formation of WECovery/Beyond Brink as well. Interestingly, their system looks quite similar to Kyros/Refocus Recovery set-up.
Absolutely right. That's how many nonprofits work--political connections.
@@GabeOak78
and how coincidental could it be that the Executive Director of WECovery/Beyond Brink is appointed as “Citizen Representative” to the Nicollet County Board of Commissioners Advisory Board when I’m almost certain that organization profits from Nicollet County funding
This is fraud, I work as a medical coder with billing. This guy is unchanging and bribing. This is a huge no no under the medical billing practice. With my license for my job they are big on accurate reporting and no uncharge to get more money
I wonder if this was also the case with Nayt Pingry’s sober homes. He was also an upper-level Kyros employee with his own recovery home business.
Without conclusive evidence, it can't be said with certainty. But where there is smoke, there is fire.
This is excellent reporting!Where is accountability?!?! Dismantle DHS! They clearly fail to deliver their value!
I wish you knew how ridiculously stupid this comment sounds. But you won't, so I won't bother with wondering anymore.
I wish I knew this information before I voted for Tim Sanders. Hope he is held accountable, if he was a part of the fraud.
He was more a figurehead and used for his political influence which was, to say the least, over-estimated. He did virtually nothing in the day-to-day operations of Refocus Recovery.
Please keep doing these investigations. MN taxpayers need to stop being an easy target for fraud!
There are plenty of employment opportunities for all of these people to go into, we don’t need to have a society where people are incentivized to lie about personal care attendant hours.
Yes and no. Many Peer Recovery Specialists have criminal backgrounds that prevent them from a wide variety of employment opportunities. There are people that are genuinely wanting to turn their life around - one of the requirements to become a PRS is that you have lived experience with addiction, which often coincides with a criminal history. Add in to that a company that was willing to hire virtually any and everyone - incentivize billing, provide inaccurate information about what is able to be billed -- and even when it reaches the billing and compliance department, they green light it..well, you have a lovely stew thats ripe for fraud. The reporting on this is phenomenal, but the tactics and practices are even darker and dirtier than what's being reported. Be on the look out for more of these specials - and in case you didn't catch it, there is now a grand jury that has been convened.
@ thanks for correcting me on the proper term, PRS, let’s think of several industries, specifically in Minnesota, that these people could pivot into - retail of course, janitorial services, dietary aids, there is a lot of demand and low supply of labor in elderly care, package delivery, clearly if these people are fibbing about their hours it means there’s an artificial supply of these workers.
We do need to reduce the stigma of criminal pasts and hiring, but our Minnesota society also creates these weird inflections points where there is almost too much forgiveness and people end up taking a bad path and think there’s a never ending safety net.
If we keep propping up these artificial industries, Minnesota will falter, we have created an almost never ending supply of non profits, all government grant funded, none of which create anything, they just inflate our dollar, cheapen our society, reduce our government services, lessen the quality of our infrastructure, decay our neighborhoods, it’s not healthy for us to have so many fake companies, we have to create again.
@@RealTalkGeo It’s clear that you’re passionate about the future of Minnesota and the opportunities we provide to our communities. While I understand some of your concerns, I believe it’s important to address a few key points with nuance and empathy.
First, regarding the industries you mentioned-retail, janitorial services, dietary aids, elderly care, and package delivery-it’s vital to recognize the value of transferable skills and the potential for upward mobility within these and other sectors. Peer Recovery Specialists (PRS) bring a wealth of lived experience, empathy, and problem-solving skills that can be invaluable across diverse industries, including mental health, education, and social services. These roles aren’t just jobs-they’re meaningful positions where individuals can create tangible change for others.
Second, while reducing the stigma surrounding criminal pasts is a complex issue, it’s crucial to approach it with compassion and a focus on rehabilitation. Creating opportunities for individuals to reintegrate into the workforce doesn’t just benefit them-it strengthens our economy, reduces recidivism, and fosters safer communities.
As for the broader critique of non-profits and grant-funded organizations, it’s worth noting that many of these entities fill critical gaps that private industries don’t address. They provide essential services-housing, mental health support, education, and more-that build a stronger foundation for society. While inefficiencies can exist in any sector, dismissing these organizations as "artificial industries" risks overlooking the vital work they do to uplift vulnerable populations and drive systemic change.
Finally, your point about the need to "create again" is an excellent one. Innovation and sustainable economic growth are essential. However, building a thriving Minnesota requires a multi-faceted approach that includes fostering entrepreneurship, supporting the workforce, and investing in infrastructure. Non-profits and government programs can-and often do-play complementary roles in these efforts.
@@RealTalkGeo If Minnesota wants to succeed, they will make proactive and reactive steps to ensure our collective prosperity. Minnesota needs to remember its goals, desires, and necessities. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
@@nerdluvsyttik4evah I really don’t know what this means, you’d have to be more clear on these more open ended terms.
Thanks guys for the truth