Welcome back! I'm happy to see you overcame all challenges to get your bike and self back out on the road again. I bought my HS2 last year and it also has the high end choppy whine. My own hunch, based on my mechanical background, is possibly a convergence of factors between the OEM gearset and what you installed. A) New gears lacked metal backing rings. B) You added grease to the replacement set, likely at a better level than the factory compliment, and C) The replacement gears may be cast slightly different than the OEM set. I would lay the improved performance on a combination of the above factors plus the replacement torque sensor. I've been riding my own HS2 like crazy all summer, in spite of the heat in my area. I also keep expanding how far I venture on it, especially on weekends. Early mornings around dawn have been optimal riding times lately, before the sun is too far up and sending death rays of heat onto our landscape. I've also added the Juiced rack and phone holder to the bike this summer. Both good additions. The custom seat I got from Saul's last year is now more broken in and even more comfortable on longer rides. This bike continues to bring me much enjoyment, and I'm happy yours is once again doing the same for you!
It feels good to be back! I was worried that breakdown was going to be the end of my e-bike riding career for a long while. After having it back, I realized how much I missed riding. The extra joy it brings to my life is kind of priceless. Excellent analysis on the OEM gears and such. What you mentioned makes a lot of sense. I'm sure all those factors play into the final performance. The gears and parts having unique tolerances probably do make a big difference. In the end I'm extremely happy to be riding again! Glad to hear all has been well with your bike. You've probably gotten a lot more comfortable with it over the last year. It went from a hobby to a lifestyle for me. A pleasant one at that. Sounds like you're in the same boat. The more you talk about the seat the more it convinces me to get one. I did get a little distracted by the mechanical issues but now that my problems have gotten sorted out. It might be time to make a move. Especially for the sake of my glutes lol. As always thanks for touching base and sharing your thoughts and adventures! Until next time. Peace.
FYI, the torque sensor only matters for pedaling. It does nothing for throttle use. So you could get more assist when pedaling with a new sensor depending on how its info is dealt with by the controller, but it wont change throttle only power at all. It measures the torque you put on the pedals rather than just the pedal movement like an inferior cadence sensor. The lowered noise is probably just the lube difference and friction differences in the new and old gears. At the high speeds those spin, the friction difference can change the noise levels considerably. Good to have you goin again man, im only at like 3k between all three of my juiced bikes so i got a bit to go to catch up.👍
Nice. I appreciate the information. That makes a lot of sense. I wasn't exactly sure how all that worked. The lube on the old gears was definitely lacking now that I think about it.. 3k is still a lot of miles worth of adventures. Those miles build up quickly when you're having fun. Safe cruising man! Thanks again for the feedback.
Currently I'm experiencing the same thing with my ebike I bought my bike last year after Thanksgiving and I only read the bike twice that fall because the weather was really start to get cold. In April the the started warming up and I started riding the bike again. The bike road perfectly it had no rattling and everything was tight and I was very happy. I took me less than a month to get the first 100 miles on my bike and I started to notice a difference in the hub motor. Meaning the motor was pretty quiet at first and then it started to get louder when riding the bike. A couple a days later I ride the bike again and it sounds like the back wheel was rubbing against something. The next time a road the bike it sounds like something was coming a lose. I contacted the company I bought the bike and the hub motor had an one year warranty on it and it was covered for and defective parts. They ask me to make a video demonstrating the nose and the company Engineer determine it was the clutch and it was covered and they would send me a new one. After receiving the clutch I had hell on trying to remove the damage one from the motor. The demonstration video made the removal looks easy but it was really hard. Finally I got the hub motor back on put the bike back together. Next I was trying to test the motor out and the motor wouldn't turn at all so my display says error 24 and the company ask me to check all the wiring but I work full time and being bothered with something like that just stress me out and I can't waist my energy fixing the bike because I need it for work. The bike name is called EKX X20 from off Aliexpress.com
Sorry to hear about all that trouble. Depending on your work space these bikes can be tough to fix. My particular work space isn't the best. I wish I could give you some advice on how to fix your issue. I'm not familiar with the model you have. Hopefully you'll get it going again sooner than later. It took me about two months to get mine going again but I eventually got it back to health. Good luck. Crossing my fingers for you 🤞🤞
That motor whine at top speed is a big annoyance, even on my bike. So I'm glad you were able to get rid of it, even if it may be by chance. Maybe the combination of the new gears and fresh lubrication on it did the trick. 17:17
Yeah that noise didn't sound healthy at all. Happy the bike is smooth and quiet now. It could definitely be a combination of the new gears and lube. Once the lube gets older along with the gears. It'll be interesting to see if the motor eventually makes that sound again. I'll be sure to share any updates as time passes.
As @BorisBlade7 wrote, the torque sensor is only for pedal assist, it has no affect on pure throttle operations. The lowered noise level is mostly from you lubing the gears much better than the original. The clutch is a freewheel clutch that allows the bike to coast when not under power. Geared hub motors are more efficient but they can't regen because of the freewheel clutch, which would not work very well on a bike anyway because a bike and rider are too light for the speeds we go.
I appreciate the detailed analysis and explanation! I'm always up for learning some new things about the bike. Thanks for checking out the video and the comment.
Mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I got the red one, ordered a custom seat, got the fenders, handlebar mirrors, headbanger headlight and the rear rack. I know they are coming out with an updated one next year with a name change. To keep up with the driving market I figure the next one with have optional front motor, a better display (this one is BAD outdated), of course an app for the phone, probably a plug for a converter (a lot of bikes have these now). I hope if they upgrade the display, I will be able to get it and it work with the hyperscrambler 2 now. . I bet in the next year displays will be geared toward your cell phone. You will be able to pick between android and apple and be just like the cars now with navigation, etc. Right now the only draw back I seen was the lack of available parts. Juiced parts are ALWAYS out of stock. I get emails all the time about seen you peeking and I reply yeah but seen you are still out of stock. And there is NO rear wheel motor replacement on the site for the hyperscrambler 2 so that worries me too a little. I bought the extended warranty just incase all the bugs haven't been completely worked out. I seen a lot of great reviews and a LOT of terrible reviews but it seems they are all from like 2 or 3 years ago and nothing recent. Not a lot fo people posting Juiced videos any more. One thing about these moped style bikes is they max out the motors for top speed and nothing can run non stop max power and last. But I do like to just cruise and my other ebikes I pedal 99% of the time nd that is another reason I went with the hypescrambler 2 over something like super 73 or grizzly, the HS2 has a torque sensor and gears and a bigger crank. That was my biggest selling pint for this moped style bike. Like your videos man. Keep them coming.
Congrats on the new H2!! I'd imagine you definitely got the bike by now. Sounds like you got the works too. It is a really great piece of engineering. Hopefully you are digging the ride. The display is definitely outdated, but I have to say it still does the job really well. You'll see. I think less is more in terms of the display and settings. Maybe I'm just old fashioned lol. You can't go wrong with an extended warranty. My bike had a few issues but nothing too crazy to repair on my own. Over 6000 miles and counting. Overall the bike is a beast and it was a life changer. Have fun and safe cruising. I am a bit curious about how much pedaling you'll actually be doing lol. Thanks for stopping by the channel
Yo! Its been a while. Good to hear from you. Ya, I've always been a hands on kind of guy. Its been really fun learning about and fixing this e-bike. Glad I'm able to keep up with what has needed repairs so far. Hope all is well. Peace.
Ya sure! I'll leave a link to the replacement gears in the description. I'm going to leave two links. The Amazon link is for the set of planetary gears I took the nylon gears from, and used on the original Juiced clutch piece. The other link is for a set of planetary gears that seem to have the reinforced nylon gears, which are closer to how the original gears are built. The reinforced set should transfer over just the same, but I'm not 100% sure like I am with the Amazon set. I just figured I'd tell you for the heck of it.
I just subscribed, I appreciate all the videos on the Hyper Scrambler. I am wondering what the new model will look like. If they had the old one in stock. I would order it. Thanks again
I appreciate you watching the videos! I am curious what the new models will look like as well. I'd love to see them go a little bit faster. 5 to 8 mph faster would go a long way. It would help to keep up with traffic just a little bit more. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing it when it gets released. Thanks again for visiting the channel!
Hi I was wondering if you are going to get the new Juiced Hyper scrambler, whatever it's called? Are you looking at something else. I have a Juiced Rip Current and love the bike. I'm looking at the former Hyper Scrambler, when it comes out. I'm also looking at the Raev GTX. Any suggestions for a scrambler? Thanks
Hello. I probably won't get the new model right away. Unless, if it goes faster I'd seriously consider it. I'd love to have it go about 10mph faster. I don't ride in the streets a lot but a faster bike would help for the times when I am in city traffic. So ya, if I were to suggest anything for a new scrambler. 204mm rotors, 20 to 30lbs lighter and about 10mlh faster. I will love the bike anyway! Thanks a lot for checking out the channel and sharing your thoughts!
I am akso looking at the Ariel Grizzly. But at over three grand, yikes. I can get a Honda Grom for $3,800. This is a motorcycle. Why do ebikes need to be so expensive? I would love to get a ebike that could do forty, that looked like a bike. Thanks@@keepingitkresky4412
Hello. If you Google gear puller you'll see what I used. My father happened to have a few in his garage and one just barely worked. Once you see the tool you'll get an idea for how it works. I think it's called a jaw puller too. Hope this helps!
The vee missions were good tires but not my favorite. Low tire pressure, really squishy, super thin and soft. The two things I like about that tire was it's grip in the rain and it made for an extra soft ride. The squishy factor could have definitely messed with my range a little bit. Nothing that noticeable though.
Sorry for the super late reply. Anyhow, no I have two of the older batteries. They are holding up really strong. Part of me likes the new battery for the handle and the battery indicator light is kind of cool. If I am not mistaken, you have to pop the battery out to access the on/off button. I have to say I'm not to keen on that design choice. I'm sure I would get used to the new design after a while either way. Thanks for visiting the channel!
I am from North East PA. I think there are a bit of riders around here but nothing too crazy. You will have your smaller groups riding in our city from time to time but nothing like those huge ebike rides in California.
Hmm, I wonder if they’re still using those cheesy plastic planetary gears? ArielRider uses metal ones and now wet know why. I guess I’ll find out when I get mine and get some miles on it.
I hear they use nylon gears to keep the noise down and to prevent wearing on the hub itself. It's easier to change nylon gears than have the teeth damaged on the hub. That's completely speculation of course. I'm not pretending to know exactly why. It's fun to talk about though. Plus if other bikes can do it why not Juiced. Thanks a lot for the comment and checking out the video. It's appreciated!
The number of teeth are the same on the old set as they are on the new gear set. Not sure if you were implying that the new set has more teeth. Even when the bike was brand new it didn't quite feel as snappy as it does now. Either way, I appreciate the comment! I always like hearing new ideas and such.
Hey. I just ordered me a hyperscrambler 2 on closeout. How have you liked your and how has it held up? I seen where you had to redo the gears. How many miles did you get before your gears messed up?
That closeout is an excellent deal. That is nearly what I paid for mine two years ago before the price hike. The bike held up awesome. Over 6000 miles before the gears blew out. That's not too bad I would say. Congrats on the new bike! Safe cruising!
Yeah, I think of that when I take off from a full stop. The plastic gears are probably holding on for dear life. I do believe you can swap them for a metal pair if you wanted. Granted it would be nice if they came stock like that.
Welcome back! I'm happy to see you overcame all challenges to get your bike and self back out on the road again.
I bought my HS2 last year and it also has the high end choppy whine. My own hunch, based on my mechanical background, is possibly a convergence of factors between the OEM gearset and what you installed. A) New gears lacked metal backing rings. B) You added grease to the replacement set, likely at a better level than the factory compliment, and C) The replacement gears may be cast slightly different than the OEM set.
I would lay the improved performance on a combination of the above factors plus the replacement torque sensor.
I've been riding my own HS2 like crazy all summer, in spite of the heat in my area. I also keep expanding how far I venture on it, especially on weekends. Early mornings around dawn have been optimal riding times lately, before the sun is too far up and sending death rays of heat onto our landscape. I've also added the Juiced rack and phone holder to the bike this summer. Both good additions. The custom seat I got from Saul's last year is now more broken in and even more comfortable on longer rides. This bike continues to bring me much enjoyment, and I'm happy yours is once again doing the same for you!
It feels good to be back! I was worried that breakdown was going to be the end of my e-bike riding career for a long while. After having it back, I realized how much I missed riding. The extra joy it brings to my life is kind of priceless.
Excellent analysis on the OEM gears and such. What you mentioned makes a lot of sense. I'm sure all those factors play into the final performance. The gears and parts having unique tolerances probably do make a big difference.
In the end I'm extremely happy to be riding again!
Glad to hear all has been well with your bike. You've probably gotten a lot more comfortable with it over the last year. It went from a hobby to a lifestyle for me. A pleasant one at that. Sounds like you're in the same boat.
The more you talk about the seat the more it convinces me to get one. I did get a little distracted by the mechanical issues but now that my problems have gotten sorted out. It might be time to make a move. Especially for the sake of my glutes lol.
As always thanks for touching base and sharing your thoughts and adventures!
Until next time. Peace.
FYI, the torque sensor only matters for pedaling. It does nothing for throttle use. So you could get more assist when pedaling with a new sensor depending on how its info is dealt with by the controller, but it wont change throttle only power at all. It measures the torque you put on the pedals rather than just the pedal movement like an inferior cadence sensor. The lowered noise is probably just the lube difference and friction differences in the new and old gears. At the high speeds those spin, the friction difference can change the noise levels considerably. Good to have you goin again man, im only at like 3k between all three of my juiced bikes so i got a bit to go to catch up.👍
Nice. I appreciate the information. That makes a lot of sense. I wasn't exactly sure how all that worked. The lube on the old gears was definitely lacking now that I think about it..
3k is still a lot of miles worth of adventures. Those miles build up quickly when you're having fun. Safe cruising man! Thanks again for the feedback.
Currently I'm experiencing the same thing with my ebike I bought my bike last year after Thanksgiving and I only read the bike twice that fall because the weather was really start to get cold. In April the the started warming up and I started riding the bike again. The bike road perfectly it had no rattling and everything was tight and I was very happy. I took me less than a month to get the first 100 miles on my bike and I started to notice a difference in the hub motor. Meaning the motor was pretty quiet at first and then it started to get louder when riding the bike. A couple a days later I ride the bike again and it sounds like the back wheel was rubbing against something. The next time a road the bike it sounds like something was coming a lose. I contacted the company I bought the bike and the hub motor had an one year warranty on it and it was covered for and defective parts. They ask me to make a video demonstrating the nose and the company Engineer determine it was the clutch and it was covered and they would send me a new one. After receiving the clutch I had hell on trying to remove the damage one from the motor. The demonstration video made the removal looks easy but it was really hard. Finally I got the hub motor back on put the bike back together. Next I was trying to test the motor out and the motor wouldn't turn at all so my display says error 24 and the company ask me to check all the wiring but I work full time and being bothered with something like that just stress me out and I can't waist my energy fixing the bike because I need it for work. The bike name is called EKX X20 from off Aliexpress.com
Sorry to hear about all that trouble. Depending on your work space these bikes can be tough to fix. My particular work space isn't the best. I wish I could give you some advice on how to fix your issue. I'm not familiar with the model you have. Hopefully you'll get it going again sooner than later. It took me about two months to get mine going again but I eventually got it back to health. Good luck. Crossing my fingers for you 🤞🤞
Welcome back. Glad to hear all is well.
Thanks! It's great to be back! Both riding and making videos. 👍👍
Glad to have you back on the bike again, it's been way too hot to ride here in AZ but I'm eager to get back on the road again
Feels awesome to be back! Hopefully the weather cools down for you. I'm trying to get my riding in before it gets too cold here. Safe riding man!
That motor whine at top speed is a big annoyance, even on my bike. So I'm glad you were able to get rid of it, even if it may be by chance. Maybe the combination of the new gears and fresh lubrication on it did the trick. 17:17
Yeah that noise didn't sound healthy at all. Happy the bike is smooth and quiet now. It could definitely be a combination of the new gears and lube. Once the lube gets older along with the gears. It'll be interesting to see if the motor eventually makes that sound again. I'll be sure to share any updates as time passes.
Those “reinforced metal inserts” are sealed ball bearings. If the replacements didn’t have them, they’re not going to last long.
As @BorisBlade7 wrote, the torque sensor is only for pedal assist, it has no affect on pure throttle operations. The lowered noise level is mostly from you lubing the gears much better than the original. The clutch is a freewheel clutch that allows the bike to coast when not under power. Geared hub motors are more efficient but they can't regen because of the freewheel clutch, which would not work very well on a bike anyway because a bike and rider are too light for the speeds we go.
I appreciate the detailed analysis and explanation! I'm always up for learning some new things about the bike. Thanks for checking out the video and the comment.
Mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I got the red one, ordered a custom seat, got the fenders, handlebar mirrors, headbanger headlight and the rear rack. I know they are coming out with an updated one next year with a name change. To keep up with the driving market I figure the next one with have optional front motor, a better display (this one is BAD outdated), of course an app for the phone, probably a plug for a converter (a lot of bikes have these now). I hope if they upgrade the display, I will be able to get it and it work with the hyperscrambler 2 now. . I bet in the next year displays will be geared toward your cell phone. You will be able to pick between android and apple and be just like the cars now with navigation, etc. Right now the only draw back I seen was the lack of available parts. Juiced parts are ALWAYS out of stock. I get emails all the time about seen you peeking and I reply yeah but seen you are still out of stock. And there is NO rear wheel motor replacement on the site for the hyperscrambler 2 so that worries me too a little. I bought the extended warranty just incase all the bugs haven't been completely worked out. I seen a lot of great reviews and a LOT of terrible reviews but it seems they are all from like 2 or 3 years ago and nothing recent. Not a lot fo people posting Juiced videos any more. One thing about these moped style bikes is they max out the motors for top speed and nothing can run non stop max power and last. But I do like to just cruise and my other ebikes I pedal 99% of the time nd that is another reason I went with the hypescrambler 2 over something like super 73 or grizzly, the HS2 has a torque sensor and gears and a bigger crank. That was my biggest selling pint for this moped style bike. Like your videos man. Keep them coming.
Congrats on the new H2!! I'd imagine you definitely got the bike by now. Sounds like you got the works too. It is a really great piece of engineering. Hopefully you are digging the ride. The display is definitely outdated, but I have to say it still does the job really well. You'll see. I think less is more in terms of the display and settings. Maybe I'm just old fashioned lol.
You can't go wrong with an extended warranty. My bike had a few issues but nothing too crazy to repair on my own. Over 6000 miles and counting.
Overall the bike is a beast and it was a life changer. Have fun and safe cruising. I am a bit curious about how much pedaling you'll actually be doing lol. Thanks for stopping by the channel
Hi Nick how ya doing it looks like your becoming a really good electric bike technician eitck can't hurt when owning a e-bike knowledge is power mate.
Yo! Its been a while. Good to hear from you. Ya, I've always been a hands on kind of guy. Its been really fun learning about and fixing this e-bike. Glad I'm able to keep up with what has needed repairs so far.
Hope all is well. Peace.
Can you give us a link to the replacement gears? Thanks!
Ya sure! I'll leave a link to the replacement gears in the description. I'm going to leave two links. The Amazon link is for the set of planetary gears I took the nylon gears from, and used on the original Juiced clutch piece. The other link is for a set of planetary gears that seem to have the reinforced nylon gears, which are closer to how the original gears are built. The reinforced set should transfer over just the same, but I'm not 100% sure like I am with the Amazon set. I just figured I'd tell you for the heck of it.
@keepingitkresky4412 Thanks man!
@keepingitkresky4412 what tools do I need to remove the Nylon gears from the clutch?
I just subscribed, I appreciate all the videos on the Hyper Scrambler. I am wondering what the new model will look like. If they had the old one in stock. I would order it. Thanks again
I appreciate you watching the videos! I am curious what the new models will look like as well. I'd love to see them go a little bit faster. 5 to 8 mph faster would go a long way. It would help to keep up with traffic just a little bit more. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing it when it gets released. Thanks again for visiting the channel!
How are the new gears holding up?
Really well actually. We'll see how they hold up this summer. I'm feeling confident though.
Hi I was wondering if you are going to get the new Juiced Hyper scrambler, whatever it's called? Are you looking at something else. I have a Juiced Rip Current and love the bike. I'm looking at the former Hyper Scrambler, when it comes out. I'm also looking at the Raev GTX. Any suggestions for a scrambler? Thanks
Hello. I probably won't get the new model right away. Unless, if it goes faster I'd seriously consider it. I'd love to have it go about 10mph faster. I don't ride in the streets a lot but a faster bike would help for the times when I am in city traffic. So ya, if I were to suggest anything for a new scrambler. 204mm rotors, 20 to 30lbs lighter and about 10mlh faster. I will love the bike anyway! Thanks a lot for checking out the channel and sharing your thoughts!
I am akso looking at the Ariel Grizzly. But at over three grand, yikes. I can get a Honda Grom for $3,800. This is a motorcycle. Why do ebikes need to be so expensive? I would love to get a ebike that could do forty, that looked like a bike. Thanks@@keepingitkresky4412
Hey there! How did you remove the clutch and planetary gears from the rest of the motor hub assembly? Did you need a special tool?
Hello. If you Google gear puller you'll see what I used. My father happened to have a few in his garage and one just barely worked. Once you see the tool you'll get an idea for how it works. I think it's called a jaw puller too. Hope this helps!
Are you still running the Vee Tires? If so how do you like them and how have they held up. Are they heavier and did they mess with the range.
The vee missions were good tires but not my favorite. Low tire pressure, really squishy, super thin and soft. The two things I like about that tire was it's grip in the rain and it made for an extra soft ride. The squishy factor could have definitely messed with my range a little bit. Nothing that noticeable though.
Do you have the G2 battery?
Sorry for the super late reply. Anyhow, no I have two of the older batteries. They are holding up really strong. Part of me likes the new battery for the handle and the battery indicator light is kind of cool.
If I am not mistaken, you have to pop the battery out to access the on/off button. I have to say I'm not to keen on that design choice. I'm sure I would get used to the new design after a while either way. Thanks for visiting the channel!
Where do you live? Have a lot of riders in your area? I'm from tennessee little town.
I am from North East PA. I think there are a bit of riders around here but nothing too crazy. You will have your smaller groups riding in our city from time to time but nothing like those huge ebike rides in California.
Hmm, I wonder if they’re still using those cheesy plastic planetary gears? ArielRider uses metal ones and now wet know why.
I guess I’ll find out when I get mine and get some miles on it.
I hear they use nylon gears to keep the noise down and to prevent wearing on the hub itself. It's easier to change nylon gears than have the teeth damaged on the hub. That's completely speculation of course. I'm not pretending to know exactly why. It's fun to talk about though. Plus if other bikes can do it why not Juiced. Thanks a lot for the comment and checking out the video. It's appreciated!
it's not the fact that dose gears a new that gives you more torq or power it's the number of tooths on the gear
The number of teeth are the same on the old set as they are on the new gear set. Not sure if you were implying that the new set has more teeth. Even when the bike was brand new it didn't quite feel as snappy as it does now. Either way, I appreciate the comment! I always like hearing new ideas and such.
Hey. I just ordered me a hyperscrambler 2 on closeout. How have you liked your and how has it held up? I seen where you had to redo the gears. How many miles did you get before your gears messed up?
That closeout is an excellent deal. That is nearly what I paid for mine two years ago before the price hike.
The bike held up awesome. Over 6000 miles before the gears blew out. That's not too bad I would say. Congrats on the new bike! Safe cruising!
I wish they would upgrade these motors to a steel gearing instead of the plastic ones. I mean the weight of these bikes has to be hard on plastic.
Yeah, I think of that when I take off from a full stop. The plastic gears are probably holding on for dear life. I do believe you can swap them for a metal pair if you wanted. Granted it would be nice if they came stock like that.