@@jimmyjoe1591the most incredible stat: in the 2023 French open, Nole played 54 tie break points (or something very similar), and had 17 winners, and zero unforced errors. To play 54 points without an unforced error is statistically almost impossible..
One of his best comebacks ever, when you consider the ridiculousness of that Tweener point finished with a perfect dropper at 30-0 which was essentially a must win point to stay alive, then after getting out of that game and breaking back going down 6-4 in the TB then another 2 MPs somehow overcoming all of it and still needing to win a third against a Murray who was playing at highest level it truly is remarkable.
He'll see that although he has had many accomplishments, he was never quite able to acheive the same level of tennis as Roger. Prime Federer beats anyone in history, and therefore by definition Roger is the greatest of all time
When he retires he will say.. Didn't I grabbed everybody by their balls with my dope use and they thought it was my diet.. A diet that reverses age.. The frequency he plays since 2011 should have eaten up the cartilage in his knees by now
I watched this match when 15 year olds. Before this match Novak lose in US open 2012 final i'm so sad. And feel very very happy after this match and in the end Novak won tour finals. I never imagine for next 10 years him won 24 GS. Please called the G.O.A.T.
One of the Greatest Rivalries in Tennis :D I think they played in every Slam Final, Including the ATP Finals & on all surfaces (Indoor/Outdoor Hard/Grass/Clay) The two best returners & best backhands on tour :)
Murray was an absolute beast from 2012-16. He never gave up, not once. He was determined to be a problem for Nole, Rafa and Roger and he managed it more often than anyone expected. How do you pick yourself up after matches like this and keep going?
@@onlysmmkdon't dream too much ..he can't win another wimbledon and US Open hereafter ..next year Australia will be his last title if he had given easy draw. .he will lose more finals in upcoming years
This is a good highlight video because it shows both players having success, so you don't know which way a point is going to go. Most highlight videos tend to be biased in favor of one player.
I don't agree with people who deny the Big 4. Murray was every bit as good as his competition and was extremely unfortunate to have choked in many Grand Slam finals, more so against Djokovic than any other. In any other era it's a certainty he is an All Time Great, it is a great shame many futurists will overlook his achievements because he could've easily been 10+ GS in any other era.
Here is the problem with the Big 4. Murray was definitely a part of that group but he wasn't for a too long period (about 4,5 years) and his total title tally is not anywhere near the big 3. So the big 4 is more like a period, something between 2011 and 2016 (which is not a short period) but the big 3 is an era that lasts from about 2007 up to 2021 and also the big 3 is a name for 3 biggest champs of the game. The big 4 is a 5 year time period, the big 3 is a name for 3 biggest champs in sports history.
Murray wasn't brave. He'd become passive for large parts of his career. He could've had more success if he had that killer instinct and was more clutch.
If people would even understand a real meaning of that "Big" clause, from back then, they wouldnt use such title so easely Big player is the one who win most Big titles (Slam or ATP Finals or Masters or Olympics), or at least going above previous record hold by Lendl with 33. Federer was first going above that number in 2009., Nadal in 2013. and Djokovic in 2015. Now - That's Big3 formation That was a race really and exactly that achivement (going above 33 Big titles) is the meaning of Big3 😉 Current Big title numbers looks like: 1. Djokovic 69 2. Nadal 59 3. Federer 54 4. Lendl 33 ... 12. Murray 20 Murray was kept as possible so hypothetical Big since with 20 Big titles in 2016 it still looked like he could achieve that 34 in next couple years too... but no, he get injured and that is it. If Murray achived at least that 34, no wonder, nobody would deny nor argue Big4 But we cant say Murray is that one, when that really is Ivan The Terrible (of tennis) 😊 Nowdays (since Djokovic's record looks crazy), people think in general meaning that Big is the one who is just winning or going to winning whatever Big title... which is fine to use (as there is no real race like before), but that was not an original meaning at the time. Wanna be Big? literally meant "Break a previous eras Big titles record" or simply "Race above 33 Big titles" , so really going above Lendl's Big title count. Anybody stiil wonder why Djokovic exploded in his peak years 2011-2016 making just there 40 Big titles!!!! During the same period Nadal made 15, Murray 14 and Federer 10. So yeah Murray was actually 3. best back at the time of Djokovic's peak and very near Nadal. But sadly, that didnt lasted for him for longer.
@@milankostic5401 I don't deny this on a statistical level and agree with everything you said. It's unfortunate of course that the injury did it as the conversation went away from being part of that crop as he could've managed to win more big titles and providing competition for Novak and Nadal. I think Murray would've definitely continued his form and chipped away from Nadal and Novak's current title tally but that's a whole another debate and fact is we will never know because it never happened. I'm judging him for his tennis ability and what he had achieved relative to Novak, Federer and Nadal up to his injury. He was still behind in slams but made the matches extremely competitive between those greats and won a decent amount of big titles as you've mentioned. When you look at the gap between Murray and the rest of the competition below him, there was no debate that he was the biggest threat to the current greats. I think it's just a shame that he won't be remembered much when he would likely dominate more in previous eras.
@@catalyst2155 There are too many hypothetical situations, it's better to just stick with what happened. Murray had potential but in the end he didn't manage to achieve as much....
Here come the fedals with the weak era fantasies 😂 you play against the competition you have. These guys are the same which got infuriated when anybody said federer had it easy in his prime. Anyways, Novak dominated the golden era of tennis from 2011 to 2016.. So novak doesn't have to prove anything.
Djokovic led the H2H 11-8 vs Murray up until Andy's back surgery in late 2013, it was such a close rivalry... Murray is 100 times better than Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Ruud, Fritz, Rublev and Zverev combined
@@haajiryabre335 There is no comparison. If you think prime Murray would lose Korda, Seyboth-Wild and Kyrgios in Slams, you've lost your mind. Murray is 10 times better on HC, 100 times better on clay and 1000 times better on grass.
Wow~Old memories, I still remember this match. An interesting discovery at 10:46. Murray should lose that point for the ball touched the permanent feature on the court. It was very likely what happened when Tiafoe played Raonic recently.
@@b2m59I think, there is no mistake here (and there is in Tiafoe vs Raonic) In the rules only the net and the net posts were mentioned as the permanent fixture, but the ball here touched the cord (the band over the cord), so Murray won the point by the rules. Tiafoe, however, touched not only the net, but also the cord (the band over the cord), so he should lost that point
@@Terrain239 According to the ITF rules 2022, ‘In a singles match played with a doubles net and singles sticks, the net posts and the part of the net outside the singles sticks are permanent fixtures and are not considered as net posts or part of the net.’ Murray hit the ball and the ball touched the permanent fixture before hit the ground. So he should lose the point. The ‘net’ Tiafoe touched was actually a permanent fixture and it didn’t count.
@@b2m59 my point is the ball in 2013 didn't touch the permanent fixture, because it didn't touch the net It touched the band over the cord, and any part of it is not a permanent fixture by the rules
@@Terrain239 Well, I get your point. Sorry that I didn’t read your previous comment carefully. But I think the cord, band, sticks, net post are all part of the net. There are no sentences that clearly define the net and its parts. But according to the Rule 25a, ‘It is a good return if: a. The ball touches the net, net posts/singles sticks, cord or metal cable, strap or band, provided that it passes over any of them and hits the ground within the correct court; ‘ I think the explanations after the net means the net post, sticks, cord… are part of the net. According to your opinion, the band is a very special thing on the court. It’s not a permanent fixture and not part of the net. But there is no support in the rules on this.
I guess Novak won at least 3 gs and some other bigger tournaments just cause of his mental strength. It s unbelievable how he turned some final big matches (i remember 2 agains federer) and i guess there were also others i cannot remember. He was never the better tennis player in such games, but he was much better with the mental toughness. He deserves every record he has.
Yeah. Djokovic until 2011 was only slightly better than Murray. In my HUMBLE opinion, Murray s inability to flatten his forehand and play more aggresive tennis was a reason why he had not much success against BIG 3 on slams. Except 2012-2013 Djokovic and 2008 USO Rafa( who was being abused on HC significantly).
❗👉10:44 - *Don't they know the rules?! This net cord was a fault!!! The ball must not touch the part of the net between the net post and the single stick!*
In my opinion there is no GOAT in any sport...All players are great who achieve great success in their respective sport coz they dedicate themselves fully into it.. These so called GOAT debates are created by a section of bullshit people who know nothing about appreciating a player😌😌😌
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And Murray was the two time defending champion that year in Shanghai. He was a point away from winning 3 consecutive Shanghai Masters titles
Yes but Djokovic is the clutchest player in the world...
Saving match points is Djokovic’s canon event
That and tie breaks. Lost one in 2023 out of 19. Shame it was such an important tie break though😢
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@@jimmyjoe1591the most incredible stat: in the 2023 French open, Nole played 54 tie break points (or something very similar), and had 17 winners, and zero unforced errors. To play 54 points without an unforced error is statistically almost impossible..
One of his best comebacks ever, when you consider the ridiculousness of that Tweener point finished with a perfect dropper at 30-0 which was essentially a must win point to stay alive, then after getting out of that game and breaking back going down 6-4 in the TB then another 2 MPs somehow overcoming all of it and still needing to win a third against a Murray who was playing at highest level it truly is remarkable.
One of my favorite best of three set matches of all time!!! 🎉
Novak is a legend in every sense of the word and has unparalleled mental toughness
When Nole retires, he'll finally be able to see how much of a GOAT he is. This is next-level tennis.
He'll see that although he has had many accomplishments, he was never quite able to acheive the same level of tennis as Roger. Prime Federer beats anyone in history, and therefore by definition Roger is the greatest of all time
@@waholoopesorry74Is that why prime Roger won 4 masters in a season, while prime Novak won 6?
@@waholoopesorry74 average cope from an average fed fan
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But we will miss him in future
When he retires he will say.. Didn't I grabbed everybody by their balls with my dope use and they thought it was my diet.. A diet that reverses age.. The frequency he plays since 2011 should have eaten up the cartilage in his knees by now
I always like Djokovic, even he almost lost, but fighting each point to come back and win the game, well done,
The day both Djokovic & Murray smash their racket in one match
I watched this match when 15 year olds. Before this match Novak lose in US open 2012 final i'm so sad. And feel very very happy after this match and in the end Novak won tour finals. I never imagine for next 10 years him won 24 GS. Please called the G.O.A.T.
One of the Greatest Rivalries in Tennis :D
I think they played in every Slam Final, Including the ATP Finals & on all surfaces (Indoor/Outdoor Hard/Grass/Clay)
The two best returners & best backhands on tour :)
I remember this match, and i swear Nole was playing against 2 players at once because that net was playing for Murray lol
Undisputed GOAT Novak Djokovic!
Fantastic match bw both of them in their prime. 2 time defending newly crowned us open champ vs 5 time grandslam champ in us open final rematch 🤩🔥👌
Murray was an absolute beast from 2012-16. He never gave up, not once. He was determined to be a problem for Nole, Rafa and Roger and he managed it more often than anyone expected. How do you pick yourself up after matches like this and keep going?
Wow what grit and what a game !! To think that old man Novak is still playing and is still #1
THE KEYS in modern tennis today is hit the ball extreme early. Since 2015 djokovic learn djokovic this technic
King of atp 1000 mastres and grand slams! Novak Djokovic! Will win golden slam!
Next year
Djokovic Ao Wimbledon us open
Alcaraz Rolandgarros Gold medal
@@onlysmmkdon't dream too much ..he can't win another wimbledon and US Open hereafter ..next year Australia will be his last title if he had given easy draw. .he will lose more finals in upcoming years
@filand_1196 Can you tell me the name of a player with most wins vs top 20 ,top 10 and top 5 based on ranking ?
If him won monte carlo next year = Triple golden master
@@fernanbaybay320 he won't
Ladies and Gentleman Novak Djokovic THE GOAT!
Shanghai was my favorite masters. Shame we haven’t seen it in 3 years.
This is a good highlight video because it shows both players having success, so you don't know which way a point is going to go.
Most highlight videos tend to be biased in favor of one player.
Tennis looks so good back in the days.
thats what am thinking, and now im afraid of alcaraz. man check Murry fast storng octopus.
Thanks, Tennis Tv, for a very beautiful summary of the match
I don't agree with people who deny the Big 4. Murray was every bit as good as his competition and was extremely unfortunate to have choked in many Grand Slam finals, more so against Djokovic than any other. In any other era it's a certainty he is an All Time Great, it is a great shame many futurists will overlook his achievements because he could've easily been 10+ GS in any other era.
Here is the problem with the Big 4. Murray was definitely a part of that group but he wasn't for a too long period (about 4,5 years) and his total title tally is not anywhere near the big 3. So the big 4 is more like a period, something between 2011 and 2016 (which is not a short period) but the big 3 is an era that lasts from about 2007 up to 2021 and also the big 3 is a name for 3 biggest champs of the game. The big 4 is a 5 year time period, the big 3 is a name for 3 biggest champs in sports history.
Murray wasn't brave. He'd become passive for large parts of his career.
He could've had more success if he had that killer instinct and was more clutch.
If people would even understand a real meaning of that "Big" clause, from back then, they wouldnt use such title so easely
Big player is the one who win most Big titles (Slam or ATP Finals or Masters or Olympics), or at least going above previous record hold by Lendl with 33.
Federer was first going above that number in 2009., Nadal in 2013. and Djokovic in 2015. Now - That's Big3 formation
That was a race really and exactly that achivement (going above 33 Big titles) is the meaning of Big3 😉
Current Big title numbers looks like:
1. Djokovic 69
2. Nadal 59
3. Federer 54
4. Lendl 33
...
12. Murray 20
Murray was kept as possible so hypothetical Big since with 20 Big titles in 2016 it still looked like he could achieve that 34 in next couple years too... but no, he get injured and that is it.
If Murray achived at least that 34, no wonder, nobody would deny nor argue Big4
But we cant say Murray is that one, when that really is Ivan The Terrible (of tennis) 😊
Nowdays (since Djokovic's record looks crazy), people think in general meaning that Big is the one who is just winning or going to winning whatever Big title... which is fine to use (as there is no real race like before), but that was not an original meaning at the time. Wanna be Big? literally meant "Break a previous eras Big titles record" or simply "Race above 33 Big titles" , so really going above Lendl's Big title count.
Anybody stiil wonder why Djokovic exploded in his peak years 2011-2016 making just there 40 Big titles!!!! During the same period Nadal made 15, Murray 14 and Federer 10. So yeah Murray was actually 3. best back at the time of Djokovic's peak and very near Nadal. But sadly, that didnt lasted for him for longer.
@@milankostic5401 I don't deny this on a statistical level and agree with everything you said. It's unfortunate of course that the injury did it as the conversation went away from being part of that crop as he could've managed to win more big titles and providing competition for Novak and Nadal. I think Murray would've definitely continued his form and chipped away from Nadal and Novak's current title tally but that's a whole another debate and fact is we will never know because it never happened.
I'm judging him for his tennis ability and what he had achieved relative to Novak, Federer and Nadal up to his injury. He was still behind in slams but made the matches extremely competitive between those greats and won a decent amount of big titles as you've mentioned. When you look at the gap between Murray and the rest of the competition below him, there was no debate that he was the biggest threat to the current greats. I think it's just a shame that he won't be remembered much when he would likely dominate more in previous eras.
@@catalyst2155 There are too many hypothetical situations, it's better to just stick with what happened. Murray had potential but in the end he didn't manage to achieve as much....
The greatest to ever do it
I wish we could see Murray in similar health to Djokovic, so we might be privileged to see another match like this!
Here come the fedals with the weak era fantasies 😂 you play against the competition you have. These guys are the same which got infuriated when anybody said federer had it easy in his prime.
Anyways, Novak dominated the golden era of tennis from 2011 to 2016.. So novak doesn't have to prove anything.
@@Laland_1196”he is lucky” my god…
Murray's mentality isn't strong like Novak.
@@arunsekhar9288yes it is. Murray has a great mentality look at his comeback hes just not on Djokovic skill level
@@Laland_1196 So that must mean Nadal, Alcaraz and Medvedev are weak era players, definitely worse than Hewitt, Safin and Roddick 🤡
Agressive Murray is such a great tennis player
Best match ever in Shanghai
Absolutely crazy resilience from Djokovic. Murray played lights out but Djoker clung on then played better in tight moments.
This match basically ends the goat discussion slams do not matter but this heart of steel does best player in tennis history ❤
GOAT 🐐 Nole 🎉
such quick hard courts... gotta love it
You realise how good Murray was when you see Djokovic wipe away the next gen
Or how trash this next gen is 😂
and this is prime novak , murray is unlucky he was in the same generation as the big 3 + he had terrible injuries
Djokovic led the H2H 11-8 vs Murray up until Andy's back surgery in late 2013, it was such a close rivalry... Murray is 100 times better than Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Ruud, Fritz, Rublev and Zverev combined
@@rm1507how is Murray 100 times better than medvedev. You on drugs or something?
@@haajiryabre335 There is no comparison. If you think prime Murray would lose Korda, Seyboth-Wild and Kyrgios in Slams, you've lost your mind.
Murray is 10 times better on HC, 100 times better on clay and 1000 times better on grass.
12 years later and Novak is still playing Shanghai finals. GOAT NOLE
I was very forunate to watch this match live, I live in california so I was watching from 1:30 am - 5 am october 2012
Wow~Old memories, I still remember this match. An interesting discovery at 10:46. Murray should lose that point for the ball touched the permanent feature on the court. It was very likely what happened when Tiafoe played Raonic recently.
Another crazy thing I found is that the chair umpire is the same person, Fergus Murphy. After 10 years, he fixed that mistake 😅
@@b2m59I think, there is no mistake here (and there is in Tiafoe vs Raonic)
In the rules only the net and the net posts were mentioned as the permanent fixture, but the ball here touched the cord (the band over the cord), so Murray won the point by the rules.
Tiafoe, however, touched not only the net, but also the cord (the band over the cord), so he should lost that point
@@Terrain239 According to the ITF rules 2022, ‘In a singles match played with a doubles net and singles sticks, the net posts and the part of the net outside the singles sticks are permanent fixtures and are not considered as net posts or part of the net.’ Murray hit the ball and the ball touched the permanent fixture before hit the ground. So he should lose the point. The ‘net’ Tiafoe touched was actually a permanent fixture and it didn’t count.
@@b2m59 my point is the ball in 2013 didn't touch the permanent fixture, because it didn't touch the net
It touched the band over the cord, and any part of it is not a permanent fixture by the rules
@@Terrain239 Well, I get your point. Sorry that I didn’t read your previous comment carefully. But I think the cord, band, sticks, net post are all part of the net. There are no sentences that clearly define the net and its parts. But according to the Rule 25a, ‘It is a good return if:
a. The ball touches the net, net posts/singles sticks, cord or metal cable, strap or band, provided that it passes over any of them and hits the ground within the correct court; ‘ I think the explanations after the net means the net post, sticks, cord… are part of the net. According to your opinion, the band is a very special thing on the court. It’s not a permanent fixture and not part of the net. But there is no support in the rules on this.
Djokovic lost first set => Smash racket
Murray lost second set => Smash racket
One of the best 3 set matches.
2015 shanghai was djokovic playfully much much better against murray then 2012
Brother doing this job for 15 years
The era where djokovic's serve was worse than Nadal, among big 4
It really is impressive the amount of power Murray was able to add to his game as his career progressed.
That anger☠️☠️☠️💀😭
This Murray was something else
I guess Novak won at least 3 gs and some other bigger tournaments just cause of his mental strength. It s unbelievable how he turned some final big matches (i remember 2 agains federer) and i guess there were also others i cannot remember. He was never the better tennis player in such games, but he was much better with the mental toughness. He deserves every record he has.
Djokovic and Murray could play each other in November in ATP finals in Turin!
For being 13yro that Mercedes SUV aged well
I hope there will be a full match
😂😂😂😂😂 one of the best match.....❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ very very high level
Wow! Never followed Murray that much, now I see why is definitely Big 4th of men’s tennis out with these guys neck to neck
mentality🔝🔥
goat
*STREET FIGHTER*
ryu vs ken or Djokovic vs murray
And 3rd set lol you can hear it
Djokovic's whole career filled with this type of results
Lucky to face chokers like murray and federer
@@Fraudkovic yeah he is so lucky that he has all the incredible records & achievements 😂🤣
@@NR-ov6po lucky he didn't face his daddy alcaraz . He's 0-2 against him when alcaraz is 100%
@@Fraudkovic but chokerer is idol of your idol Alcaraz
@@Fraudkovic but chokerer is idol of your idol Alcaraz
It's so disheartening seeing the current Murray compared to his prime...he was a beast and definitely part of the big 4!
Look at those broken racquets lol.
Kiedy był ten mecz?
Top tier match
Yeah. Djokovic until 2011 was only slightly better than Murray. In my HUMBLE opinion, Murray s inability to flatten his forehand and play more aggresive tennis was a reason why he had not much success against BIG 3 on slams. Except 2012-2013 Djokovic and 2008 USO Rafa( who was being abused on HC significantly).
They cut away when he made the sign of the cross...
❗👉10:44 - *Don't they know the rules?! This net cord was a fault!!! The ball must not touch the part of the net between the net post and the single stick!*
know the rules of tennis before making yourself look stupid.
6:28 still one of the most ridiculous points I've ever seen. If Murray won that point it would have been 40-0.
30:0 на сервис Мареја и онај поен следећи је окренуо по мени цео ток меча 🙂
Murray tilted AF during the third set
just see how good murray is here why not call him a big 4
This reminds me Murray could play some stunning tennis, even though I detest him.
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Cunning murray played his best tennis yet he couldn't beat half fit novak.
half fit? ^^c'mon
like a Goku & Vegeta
In my opinion there is no GOAT in any sport...All players are great who achieve great success in their respective sport coz they dedicate themselves fully into it..
These so called GOAT debates are created by a section of bullshit people who know nothing about appreciating a player😌😌😌
Luckiest player of all time)
Andy is so much better human than those fake guys Roger and Rafael.