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- Why HBO's The White Lotus is one of the best shows on TV right now, and how the Second Season somehow topped the first.
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TV REVIEW/RECAP of: The White Lotus (HBO)
Timestamps:
0:00 The Perfect Template
0:59 Testa di Moro
2:31 Beautiful Danger
3:18 The Hookup Tree
4:26 The Danger Beneath The Beauty
6:31 Perspective
Created by: Mike White
Starring: Connie Britton, Jennifer Coolidge, Alexandra Daddario, Fred Hechinger, Jake Lacy, Murray Bartlett, Brittany O'Grady, Natasha Rothwell, Sydney Sweeney, Steve Zahn, Theo James, Aubrey Plaza, Adam DiMarco, Greg Hunt, Sabrina Impacciatore, Tom Hollander, Meghann Fahy, Beatrice Granno, Michael Imperioli, Will Sharpe, Haley L Richardson, Leo Woodall
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Which was better, S1 or S2??
(I'm going 2 by the tiniest of margins, because SICILY)
Season 2. Both were GREAT
1 was better, sharper, and had blacker humor. There is a mildness in season 2 that undermines the show's satirical tone and tension; the formula that they re-used turned out no new insights this time, from season 1.
S2 had vastly superior cinematography. It was not so much about conflicts and power dynamic between rich white patrons and local employees, like in S1, and more about power and money and people who want them in general. Not that far apart, but it expanded on the theme.
Sadly, no vacation will ever feel complete now if I'm not being cursed by an artichoke-wielding Sicilian granny, after I had sex with an Essex boy who just topped his fake uncle, after my friend showed me pictures of her kid who looks so much like her trainer, wink wink, but before I shoot all the dangerous high-end gays carrying a fashionable black rope.
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Both were fantastic but Season 1...well mostly because Armond. Seeing these guests from his perspective and then experiencing his downward spiral was both hilarious and tragic. Season 2 didn't have characters we could connect to as easily and also lacked a bit of the sharp humor. Still a fantastic show.
Just as a side note I thought it was such a nice touch that the DeGrassi family still turned up at their homecoming without a translator, and didn't seem to care for the first 5 minutes about making a good impression - like they just yelled in English & it was only once that Albie used a translator. It was such a perfect reflection of them as men that they have never *really* put the work into relationships with the women around them & then act jaded when it doesn't go their way.
Brilliant
I love this take. Thankyou
When the grandpa called them banshees for not embracing him in their womanly arms, I definitely got the commentary. I was like “dude they don’t know u from Adam and u only spoke English with no proof of anything!”
@@UdoADHD right!? I didn't understand how they spent the money on this trip and kept talking about how they're going to have this great overdue reunion but they had no plan and never prepared for anything
How did they not think about hiring a translator beforehand. They didn't do any research, they didn't contact anyone who might know more about the family or who could do the research for them. They just went on a vacation to chill by the pool and lucia did all the work by asking the locals about the family
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Tanya’s death broke my heart. It was sooo avoidable.the entire time I was like girl take off your damn shoes then jump. Or stay on the damn yacht. I hate that Greg won in the end.
Mike White hinted that there is more story there so hopefully we get to see Greg punished. I saw a joke that Tanya's twin sister should be in the next season and I would love that so much.
Greg lost his true lover that same night, so I'm not so sure anyone really won in the end
U guys think there’s any chance that Tanya didn’t die? 🥲 That somehow she woke up and got into the small boat? And will win over Greg? I mean there’s a chance…
@@marimoon7840 I saw someone say her twin should be in the next season
@@marimoon7840 she fell off the boat when it was dark and was face down when they found her in the morning... she didn't survive. BUT we could get a season that takes place before the first season!
I still can’t get over Armond, he just brought something to the show that no one else did (although Tanya was a high contender) I really hope they do a prequel season where Murray Bartlett can return
Same he was the best for me just incredible
HE WAS DYNAMITE ON SCREEN
I agree he was too good not to have him on again
He was absolute Fire on screen.
Yeah, he was incredible.
She should've helped open up that health clinic for poor women, but she was trying to step away from transactional relationships.
but walked right into another one with gregg
Belinda*
It did seem awfully convenient that Greg was planted at her door to meet her, like he doesn't know how to read numbers. I thought that was the show being lazy, but I guess not. Maybe he's done this before. My godmother married a professional con artist, but at least he didn't try and have her killed.
No, she realised Belinda was a witch!
with that woman from Maui !
It's incredible because the final episode left absolutely NO loose thread. Every character arc was completed. The conflicts were all resolved. Everybody became the person (or something) they initially despised. It was beautiful and cathartic.
Greg is still out there.
Lol delusion. What about Greg?
@@dd4850 he will inherit Tanya's millions since she died in an accident. So Greg's plan worked. And he doesn't have to split the money with the gays.
Did he actually know the gays
@@xoxjelloxox Greg was the cowboy Quinton fell in love with so yeah
Season 1 and 2 are both equally great but the depth that Season 2 adds is just so well done! Also both intros are great but S2 intro goes HARD!
Yeah the drop on the S2 intro slaps. Unskippable
@@SceneItReviews Unskippable indeed! Great review and breakdown!!!
I thought that it's impossible to create a better intro for season 2. I was terribly wrong.. that's crazy good!!
Do di di de do do di dooo
@@salazarmartell 😂🤣😂
I liked the parallel between Albie and Olivia (from season 1), both being outwardly "progressive" with the things they say, but it not actually reflecting their true beliefs. It's just lip service, and both seem to just use it as part of rebelling against their parents. In the end we see both of them being just the same as their parents. Albie is even worse than Olivia because he throws his mother under the bus.
Great point. The 'faux-progressive' saviour. Gets fleeced, doesn't change, lies to his mum.
@@SceneItReviews they're self-righteous
I do love that about the show. Mike White clearly sees through these woke crowd.
i really liked albie's character at first, his performative reactions were more subtle than olivia's so it took me longer to see his true intentions but this is so real. the annoyed reactions directed towards his dad and grandfather objectifying women, yet in one of the last shots a woman walks by and they all turn and stare.
there wasn't even really any meaningful conversations between him and lucia, their sex and her "safety" were of the only things discussed. he'd gone to so much effort to be her savior not because it was the right thing to do, but because he was receiving something from her. he didn't care when it didn't work out despite betraying his mother [essentially] for sex, as he was immediately ogling at women in the airport and exchanging numbers with portia. sex is both nothing and everything to them, they're all the same.
@@pbnj0 Yes and because he positions himself by default as the "good" guy vs his dad and granddad as "bad" he doesn't have to examine his own behavior because he thinks he's already done, as if unlearning sexism isn't a lifelong constantly ongoing process, which ironically will lead him to make the same choices as his dad and treat women the same way.
It's tragic in a way because he seems like he truly believes himself to be a good person and different from other sexist men. I like Albie as a character study, and I love that they did that final shot of him subconcsiously copying his dad so there's no doubt for the audience, there's no room to argue that he was "actually a nice guy". No, he's the same.
One thing I missed from the first season was the interaction of the guests. In first season, the guests interacted with each other at some point, and hated each other. In 2nd season, I think Portia and Albie were the only main guests who interacted.
I'd say Lucia and Mia, also Valentina interacted with multiple guests. Harper had a quick moment with Tanya in the start too haha
I think there was a lot of interaction this season just look at the love triangle graph thing
Yeah i also think you copied this comment from another White lotus video. Can you not come up with something of your own ?
@@lifePaultheball I’m sure it’s just a common thought 😭
@@pearl999 Tbh I don't really see anyone talking about it, so I copy pasted my own comment to any White Lotus S2 videos. So jokes to him, it was actually still my own comment from another video 🤣
Can’t believe Tanya went out with a literal BONK to the head.
she top heavy
It was like one of those funny Six Feet Under deaths. "You got this!" *KERBLONK*
@@josephirizarry5195 when she was in the water, I was hoping she’d wake up and get on that speedboat 😫
She took out all those men point blank but then bonked her head and drowned. Such a Tanya move lol
Just like Armond, died stupidly immediately after their moment of triumph. It was perfect.
It's sad, though, that we are probably not going to see the beautiful Valentina, Mia and Lucia in season 3. For me the Italian actors were the highlight of season 2.
They all got "happy endings", IDK if they'd be suited for the third season. You need problematic characters for this show.
I was a bit rubbed the wrong way how they portrayed Italian (or European by extension) women as promiscuous. 🤔 Except for Valentina. She was wholesome.
@@pinkblossoms Not only promiscuous, but prostitutes with sociopathic tendencies...
@@pinkblossoms tbf I don't think Mia and Lucia were meant to be representative for European women as a whole. I at least didn't think so but then I am European.
@@pinkblossoms I wouldn't say so because you also had the two italian receptionists who were a couple. Mia and Lucia are just an exceptiom because they are sex workers :)
There's so much to this show, as you so eloquently described, but I just can't get over how hilarious that final episode was ... like Tanya's "These gays, they're trying to kill me", and her tumble, just left me absolutely comatose 😭
Tropical anxiety. That’s the perfect way to describe the way this show made me feel. So unique and different , it made me think deeply about some things about my own marriage and relationships and it was unsettling but in such an entertaining way. This show is amazing
I just watched the final episode of season 2, and something that you said made me think about the arc of family di grasso: the grandfather and the father clearly don't want to evolve, don't want to go ahead, learn what a male figure it's nowadays... Instead they want to find theirs ancestors, go back in time, want to rewind...
Yeah it's almost like they've accepted that they're past the point of retribution, and Dominic knows his quest to 'change' is hopeless.
You also have to understand they are from a different era and when you reach a certain age views don't change easily. Also, not sure how the desire to connect with relatives has anything to do with it.
@@philc1884 So you didn’t understand anything that I said.
@@brunocarvalho7611 I understand but I don't think you get the character depiction and your idea of 'what a man is nowadays' is not necessarily the norm esp for their ages. And why can't they find their relatives and become 'better men' at the same time?
@@philc1884 It's just my opinion about they. It's the way that I understand the story. Be free to think in another way.
I love how Albie says love can't be bought
Yo!!!! Good point
I was also left with a "yucky" feeling after this season ended, as I also did after the 1st. I loved both seasons but there was something even more creepy about certain aspects of this one: the Testa di Maro heads everywhere, the many underwater shots of algae-covered rocks and dark waves, the music!!, Tanya mouthing a wide "Go Home" to Portia at the restaurant and the entire sequence on the yacht at the end when Tanya finally gets wise to what's going on. Scary stuff. I didn't even pick up on Daphne's "trainer" plot point until after I watched a video about it afterward, so the shot of Cameron angrily flossing his teeth in episode 7 made sense. SPOILER: I was traumatized by the death at the end just as I was with Armond's in season 1. All in all, an incredible show.
I had a slight hope that Tanya would survive “them gays” - the only problem is that she only had one job - climb down the boat ladder, but taking off her shoes first … obviously without anyone to “serve” her… she failed
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Can you please reference the additional video? I thought the trainer is someone she has relations at home.
Pls post the title or a link
I’m still in shock at the incredibly acting and directing of Tanya shooting everyone on the yacht
@@xoxjelloxox Daphne hinted that her personal trainer is the father of her eldest child. She described the trainer, Lawrence, as blonde and blue-eyed. Then, showed a picture of her children to Harper, where her son shares similar features as the trainer (blonde hair and blue eyes).
I can´t really say which season is the better. It´s truly not TV, or now streaming, it´s HBO. Who else can go from shows like Succession, to House of the Dragon, to White Lotus, to Euphoria, to now The Last of Us, etc etc, i mean the quality is amazing.
Agreed - incredible that HBO are still the gold standard with the other companies spending so much more money.
Don’t forget Westworld. I gladly pay the $15 I pay for HBO
@@lewizzrocks I thinks its best we forget about Westworld... Greate premise, terrible execution after S1.
@@lewizzrocks so much more shows that i´m forgeting, the new Lakers show, Winning Time, for instance, pretty amazing as well.
Euphoria is terrible
Such a gripping and thought provoking show. I can't get over it. Also I've never seen Aubrey Plaza in a serious role and I think she was amazing.
Her face assumed so many expressions I've never seen her with before. I've grown so used to her being just like Aubrey Plaza.
You should watch Ingrid goes west, she was really good in it
@@ryanstanley1802 second this
I think S1 was more comical and the satire was more on the nose. The dialogue was more witty and the conversations about social/political issues were more nuanced, for e.g the scene where Mark finds out his father died of aids and the hilarious conversation with Olivia and Paula that follows. S2 was more dark and heavy. The characters were a bit more complicated and harder to perceive. Plus the demise of Tanya is depressing bc you know how much she just wanted to be loved. I think both seasons offer something different which is why the show is amazing.
100% agree with all u said! s1 is one of the best modern satires I've ever seen, the dialogue is just unmatched
I cannot believe season two ended up being better than the first. Incredible writing.
Right. I did not think they could top season 1. Was obsessed with season 2 by the time it ended. Like I can’t stop thinking about it.
I love how the relationship tree almost makes a wreath.
Honestly with the second season curse in a lot of shows (Downton, Big Little Lies, The Morning Show, Handmaid's Tale, even going back to House of Cards), props on Mike White's ability to improve the show's quality!
PS: Although that orange filter in season one looks extremely dated now.
Yeah I noticed that on the edit! The colour grading on S1 was super saturated.
Tbf, a lot of people didn’t quite like S2 of this show. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but could help but compare it to S1 in the end and think S1 was much more superior. House of Cards and Downton had pretty decent (and well reviewed) second seasons, so im not sure why those were included.
Oh no I’m just finishing season one of hand maids tale and was so excited for the next one :(
@@xxxmochibaby I liked season 2 of the handmaid’s tale just as much as season 1 and it’s still going strong imo 🤷♀️
I am not reading it anywhere, but the tarot reader predicted Tanya’s death when saying that she was going to commit suicide, which, even by accident, she did. Don’t know if anybody else noticed that, but it was forshadowed. I was already doubting whether or not the murder plot was going to happen with this being stated. Loved both first and second season. The best show I have watched in a really long time.
Yeah specifically she said "madness will lead you to suicide" which is even better because only an unhinged person would die that way- not using a ladder or taking off their heels before jumping from a yacht
It’s too bad that Jack didn’t hook up with Albie. He needed someone to save him, and Portia… well she only had enough luck to save herself 😭
Yup! Jack was the true "wounded bird" Albie was talking about
@@isabelmartin8427 Jack was decidedly not the "wounded bird" of season 2. The loutish drinking where he would quickly veer into scary dominating behavior was one clue (coupled with how he spitefully threw Portia's phone out of the car in the last episode). The second clue--Jack was fine joining an elaborate criminal plot to kill someone for their money. Jack was a handsome guy, so he had options to not involve himself in this. Yet he did with eyes wide open. Two big red flags that Jack was not a good guy, much less a "wounded bird." Tortured and desperate, yes. But morally good--hell to the no. Albie's money could not have saved someone this morally decayed.
@@Luboman411 Does "wounded bird" mean "morally good"? And what do you mean that "Jack was a handsome guy, so he had options to not involve himself in this"?
What we know is about Jack is that he's from the bottom of the class ladder, and he's found himself here, on the abused end of an psychologically and likely sexually abusive relationship. A relationship with a powerful, wealthy man whom he owes a debt of some kind to. In a show that has strong themes of class and sexual politics.
Jack mirrors Lucia, who uses her sexuality as a means of financial empowerment, and who PRETENDS to be in some sort of abusive situation in order to manipulate Albie. Jack on the other hand actually is being exploited and (it sounds like) is indebted to a mafia-adjacent *pimp*.
I'm just saying, if we heard his whole story, we might sympathize a little more with him lol. For sure, he's scary and likely violent. I still hope he finds the help he needs.
I think purely based on comical satire - season 1 wins hands down! It was brilliant writing combined with an eclectic talented cast and crisp episode production with no time to waste - the tension was palpable not just for the characters but also for the audience watching. Season 2 had a huge burden but it worked brilliantly by exploring a different theme and taking us into a new and slightly darker world with much more deception than season 1 and that's why it worked in my opinion. I loved both seasons but I missed Armond greatly - he was such a brilliant character. To lose Tanya this season was equally sad but I hope they bring Jennifer back for a different character maybe? Or perhaps Tanya's ghost can haunt greg to his death next season and that will be the true end for her character arc - either way I'm VERY EXCITED for the future of this series!
Great summary - I'm trying to work out who they might bring back for S3...Lucia and Mia on holiday with their newfound cash?
@@SceneItReviews I don't think so. Their story was wrapped perfectly and they got what they wanted - there's nothing left to explore. Apart from Greg (solely to see him pay for Tanya's demise), I'd love to watch the downward spiral of Ethan and Harper as they have both crossed boundaries and can never set things back. Cameron and Daphne are already messed up as individuals and so is their relationship - it is true to who they are. But with Ethan and Harper, we can actually see how the cheating and deception, which is against their principles, slowly ruins them in the end. I'd love to see Ethan, Harper, Greg and Tanya back but I'm also game for a completely new set of dysfunctional characters!
@@SceneItReviews do you also have a tarot channel, called Famous Fortunes--voice sounds identical
@@lynnhubbard844 nah I wish - would've warned Tanya!
Mia goes to Hollywood ?
Last year or so, I was sitting at my computer, I was looking up on google for HBO's best shows since I was bored and The White Lotus came up and said it was a murder mystery. I thought I'd give it a watch (and it took place in hawaii and I was going to hawaii for vacation soon), one thing that kept me hooked was showing us that someone had died (which is a good hook), but I was confused as the episodes went by. My mind was was like "Is this even a murder mystery? Did that website make a mistake?" At this point the eerie and sinister instrumentals paired with scenes of the waves and ocean were the only things keeping me watching the show because those legitimately chilled me to the bone and I eventually realized that those eerie scenes represented the sinister undertones of everyday life in the hotel and that on the surface everything looks normal and by the last episode I was SHOCKED i was GAGGED. I LOVED the show and i was SO excited when there'd be season two and the two actors I LOVE were gonna be in it: Aubrey Plaza and Theo James.
Season two definitely stood out even more with undertones that were twice, if not, 4 times more sinister than in the first episode. The new season definitely impacted me more than the first because I was too focused on being confused as to WHAT the show even was in s1, but both seasons are EPIC.
The intro is so good, not just the song but I think the artwork matches up with each actors character. Plus when it just has the zoom in of 'hole' makes me laugh.
I feel like it was such a Tanya move to have a gigantic yacht where you could go and find space to make a private call, but then instead go right to the literal edge of the railing where you would inevitably drop your phone into the water while trying to call for help.
the fucking music though
It’s atrocious.
Watching this was like getting an invitation to a trainwreck. You knew something awful was happening incrementally, and ultimately it was going to end catastrophic . But you can't turn away.
I genuinely hope the show goes on forever too!
ugh A+--great analysis, effortless observations, thematic understanding. great channel
I forgot about someone dying mid season so it made the last episode a more on the seat feel for me! A great second season
All things aside, as much of it has been mentioned, how AMAZING was the intro song to S2?
I actually feel some kind of void that I won't be hearing that song every Monday now.
The first time I heard it I was like WTF?! But then I ended up never skipping it. It has something hypnotic about it.
Yes! Also loved that intro music for season 2! And I found it so creepy and yet I couldn't stop listening to it!!
Cristobal Tapia de Veer. Same composer as season 1 :)
I downloaded both seasons 1 and 2 opening theme songs on Spotify and listen to them daily when I walk my dog 🐕🦺…….yeah I’m NOT obsessed 🙄
Both seasons were great but my definite preference was Season 1. It dealt with a more complex array of issues (class, race, money) while 2 focused primarily on sexual politics. Also I just really enjoyed Season 1 satire which was brilliant and hilarious -- even though the show was simultaneously so tragic. It was a bit of a gut-punch when that young woman stayed with her horrible husband in the end. Not to mention the young biracial girl and Hawaiian boy. Finally, I thought the acting and character development was consistently fantastic for every character in 1. Don't get me wrong, the acting was great in season 2 (for example, especially Daphne) but the acting of even the minor characters in season 1 was just amazing ( like Molly Shannon) and added so much to the show.
Anyway it's so interesting to read the strong opinions on both sides for season 1 vs 2. I think it's a statement on Mike White's genius and I can't wait for season 3 so the debate can continue! :)
Excellent analysis and not just a summary. Subscribed.
I miss murray bartlett in season 2, but every season of the white lotus is awesome.
Love The White Lotus so much! Seasons 1 and 2 were both brilliant and beautifully written. Mike White is a gifted writer who truly understands human nature and all of its flaws and complexities. Can’t wait for Season 3. I will be rewatching the first two seasons in the interim. Thank you for your excellent review of my favorite miniseries.
crazy how much thought provoking analysis you packed into not even nine minutes
The actor that plays Jack incredible !!
i liked the second season soooo much better because there were so many more endearing characters you could root for, the digrasso men were either toxic or dumb but you still loved them and their interactions, lucia and mia were not always kosher but you still wanted to see them win, valentina could be a pain in the ass but also powerfully likeable. and tanya being tanya of course. i liked the first season, too, but didnt really, truly, deeply like any character back then, not even tanya.
I only liked the dad on the first season
@@thifanny7298 i almost did, but i also felt he too, was really neglectful towards his son, letting his daughter bully him all the time.
That’s exactly what I liked about the 1 season as there were NO likeable characters you want to relate to
Funny enough I agree with you and the 3rd comment simultaneously. I loved second season because I could relate to the characters more, but also the genius of the first one was how evey single person in there was a scum.
@@KainyStyle true that, the first season had more cringe moments, the second season had more rooting moments for me. both masterpieces. but the second was also visually more pleasing and the music was also better. just more upbeat in general.
Thank you for this video! The White Lotus is absolute perfection✨✨.
Absolutely nailed it. Great video
For me, the overwhelming message of this season, and the series that you can’t buy, or force your way into happiness. Whether that’s feeling satisfied or loved, or the sense of adventure, or an experience that you can share publicly it only comes when you’re at peace with yourself an open to the beauty inherent in the present not the beauty perceived by others.
I really preferred Season 2! Lots more engagement for me in all the facets and details of all the characters and their relationships to each other. I saw S1 as focused so much on that truly disgusting character and I thought that the only mystery was when and how was her going to kill his wife, for not being the perfect little wifey to his distasteful, entitled 'husband' character. Murray was great but also a bit tragic and sad.
Season 2 had my heart from the get go since I adore the Italian language, culture, scenery, etc. The music was better in season 2 as well. Being a huge opera fan I love the addition of operatic music and intrigue. Although I will miss Tanya, I think it was the only death I (and lots of other fans) didn't expect. I mean we were worried and thought there was some plot against her, (some prenup clause re; adultery...) but if they wanted to kill her, why not back in Palermo instead of near the hotel? Loved her rampage before falling overboard. Kept waiting for her to suddenly take a breath and come to the surface but alas the heroine of our opera perished..... 🎼 😢
They wanted to kill Tanya on the yacht because of plausible deniability--killing someone way out there, in the open sea, is way easier in terms of getting rid of crucial evidence. So the plan was to isolate Tanya with Niccolo the prostitute/mafia hitman. The best way to do this was to lure Tanya out there on a "romantic" boat ride back to the mainland with Niccolo as her boat guy. He had a rope, a gun and some duct tape ready to go in his bag. I bet he had a huge rock in the boat. So the best way to get rid of Tanya would've been to shoot her in the head, tie up her body, weigh her down with a rock, and push her body into the sea, where she would sink to the bottom. A very mafia way of killing someone. Of course, Tanya's inadvertent call with Portia totally disrupted this plan.
I mean it's kind of like Knives Out, or some other whodunit. But not really a whodunit as it is a whosgonnagetit. I like that the story involves several different sets of characters that don't really have a connection with each of their stories (maybe a small one since they're all at the same resort), but each one has total drama going on to where everyone has the chance of being the dead guest.
Perfect review
How did I miss she had a kid with her trainer?
I also found the conversation with Portia and Jack pretty Pro-found.
Favorite drama ever. It's just a mix of crazy characters with great storytelling. Love it
I really enjoyed watching your take on it all, and you have given me some food for thought, but man I could not get into this season - hate-watched it haha. Tanya just irritated me so much being sooooo dumb. Perhaps that's a reflection of clever and effective writing and acting, that I actually really did want to reach through the screen and shake her to bring her to her senses? I don't know. I miss Murray (Armond) from S1 haha. This season Tom Hollander was a scene-stealer for me, cudos to him.
I didn't hate it per se but by the end of the season I was over it lol I felt like it started off promising enough but the plot felt very thin this go around and the good cast and cinematography disguised that imo. There was no real 'there" there. The finale was entertaining but felt gimmicky and like a totally different show.
The only reason why I tend to lean towards season 1 is Armond
second season BRILLIANT
2 was EXCEPTIONAL
Jen Coolidge is the treasure we must all protect AT ALL COST!!!
Loved season 1, second season is great too
I wondered what the hype was but then I WATCHED IT and boy it's hard to look away. So beautiful.
One thing that i’m a bit excited about with the next season is it’s theme, supposedly it’s going to be about death? and might be more comedic?
It’s wild, I’ve been to Taormina once but now it feels like Mike White was there with me
Mike White this show is so wonderful it's what we needed especially during the covid era it stimulated my mind it made me look at things look at Clues look at the wallpapers the music oh there are just so many wonderful amazing elements to this show and it's covering all those are the upper echelon there are characteristics in the characters that anyone can relate to with their insecurities in their angst it's amazing Mike White keep going
Season 1 was great. But Season 2 is probably made "The White Lotus" my personal favorite series since The Sopranos.
5:47 ironically maybe the most grounded line of dialogue of the szn by any character,
This is a fantastic analysis of a fantastic show! It's so unique from all the others I've seen and yet makes the most sense. I'm shocked you have under 10k subs. I'm subbing for more. Just brilliant! Thank you!
You nailed it.
With the death at the end I probably will not return for season 3 if I’m being honest. That character was why I watched and gave me something to hook onto
I'd love to see who mentored young Armond when he was a bellboy, new to the White Lotus. A period piece season!
I hope they do a Season set in Fiji and that kid finally shows up after his Hoku'lea
Season 2 blew season 1 out of the water
They are both excellent but being Spanish, the Mediterranean setting is so alluring to me, also i was amazed on how deep and intelligent is the portrayal of relationships and felt truly identified with all the couples at different stages of my love life. It is so real.
All the actors were absolutely superb but i would like to specially mention the incredible work of Meghan Fahy giving tons of layers to Daphne.
So it is season 2 for me, but there wouldn’t be a season 2 without the perfection of season 1!
Season 1 annoyed me, especially the overpacked rooms shared by Connie Britton's family and hangers-on. It seemed that they lacked funds for enough sets, and it didn't make sense considering how much money they were supposed to have. Season 2 worked so much better. Sicily was beautifully shot and we got just enough of everyone in the cast. Satisfying conclusions to all the stories as well.
I think the family was forced into tight quarters because Connie Britton's character didn't have as much money as she let on. Or she was a cheapskate, which would fit the personality profile of her character. I didn't find that annoying at all, but quite emblematic of how some rich people do things for appearances only. Like renting out a luxury suite at a luxury resort, but then cramming people into that suite.
@@Luboman411 yeah... is that why they pretty much didn't bat an eye when the 75k bracelets were stolen from them?
@@user-rv7ge1tc4l pretty sure insurance would cover that.
Masterpiece
Maybe Jack is a victim of child trafficking, maybe he's been groomed his entire childhood by powerful, rich elite people. Such things do happen in real life. That what he meant to say, "deep hole" he's trapped in this web and can't get out of. Other than Quentin, as a master, he could as well have other handlers. Or maybe I'm reading too much into this.
Yup I said same thing on movie files blog
Great review! I had a blast watching the second season. Thought it was better than the first. Rare
Magnifica serie!!!!
I just realised, by watching this video, that the tarot reader was right all along! I am Italian, so I understand all the Italian dialogue. When she read the cards for Tanya, she said "I see suicide", she was onto something!
Interesting perspective. Tanya was seeking comfort, not the truth. She heard bad news and accused the reader to be too negative, and kicked her out.
I loved the whole Sicily vibe of season 2 even though the plot has not always been so interesting but the last two episodes were the best of the whole series!
"Created the perfect formula for infinite limited series" - American Horror Story has been doing this since 2011 and it has DEFINITELY been run into the ground.
Armond is still my favorite character though. Loved all his interactions.
It would be cool if in Season 3 some characters return from previous seasons. Like someone from season 1 meeting someone from season 2. But at the same time I think it's better to have a completely new cast just to have a more diverse group of people each season
Tropical Anxiety is spot on.
While the second season was brilliant and kept me on the edge for weeks, I'd still choose Season 1 for several reasons: 1. Armand. 2. I personally love class satire. 3. Season 1 took me in immediately while with Season 2 I only started liking it on Episode 3.
Tanya ever iconic in her last minutes but my favourite plotline was the married couples. The dynamic between all of them was such a rollercoaster, so many morally grey decisions, I'm still uncomfortable in a good way :D
I love the theme song ❤
Season 2, Excellent!
I think the series 2 had less interactions among the guests. May be there were many characters show up from out side of the resort. However as you said, Lucia brought few connections through her.
I knew Jack wasn't Quentin's nephew bc of their accents. I felt it was inaccurate that Quentin would have a perfectly posh accent and then just one generation later Jack would be all "Essex boy"
Perfect. I understand now why it was so damn good.
0:44 much smaller budget? I found it hard to believe, but it is true. From what I gathered, both seasons costed $3M a episode, while Knives Out costed $40M. That's insane ._. WL looked so expensive! Those shots underwater... I don't know
Yes this show could really go on forever! And I will be watching! It combines beautiful vacations with hyper-reality, which is like everyone’s favorite things. They hit the jackpot. It’s done way better than knives out imo.
I also predict they will be doing a back and forth each season where the “rich” “win” and then the “poor” “win”.
no defication scene?.......that's mike white's specialty
It's the new Agatha Christie, where the viewers are the Poirot before the murder even happens.
Enjoyed both seasons. The music is subliminally fantastic. A few loose ends/things that didn't quite make sense like the trouble they went to cater to Tanya at the villa and boat back if only to knock her off. We thought Greg would appear w a blackmail scheme using a sex vid of her and the gigolo. Whatever, still a great season.
S2 served. So fkn good
Nobody is ever going to start an exclusive hotel chain called The White Lotus because everyone will be afraid they'll wind up dead. It's a great Hitchcockian gimmick, let everyone know someone is going to die and let them try to figure out who it might be.
Two observations.
1. One of the creepiest things about the theme music is the incredibly slow and lumbering tempo of the percussion. It's so unrelenting.
2. When Tanya grabs the bag and locks herself in a bedroom as she searchers the bag for the gun, she already knows the five men on the boat are going to kill her and it's only a matter of seconds before they kick the door in. Yet when she opens the bag and pulls out the kidnap kit, she pauses for the longest time to look in shock and horror at the rope as she turns it around in her hands to examine it. Absolute comedy gold.
On a personal note, I have a hard time paying attention, I always have a ton of things on my mind, and especially nowadays with so many options and screens and it makes it hard for me to follow a show. White Lotus is the sort of superb content that just instantly grabs your attention 100%. For the length of the episode(s) you are just THERE. Ironically enough, it's really good at escapism.
they pulled a GEORGE RRRRR MARTIN and killed off a very well liked character.
They really cracked the formula, pls make more seasons than the tv show friends....
Let's have season 3 in Greece
Literally and easily the best show ever
..."you got this girl"😓😓😓🤣