A really incredible conversation. I am unknowingly aligned with Peter Russell’s viewpoint and to me Tim is saying the same thing in just a slightly different way. What an incredible joy this was. Thank you both for this gift.
As for the last segment, as an English teacher, I see the underpinning etymology here. 'InFORMation' is the core material we use to drive forward our existence, the manifestation of ideas and structuring of things.
Thank you Tim and Peter for this brilliant comprehensive talk about the one thing which is relevant: "revealing" the mysterious nature of existence or CONSCIOUSNESS, a substance we are plunged in, which everything is soaked with (even the atoms of a stones are ordered geometrically- Ordo ab Chaos); ..."Nor will people say, ‘Look, here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst.” Luke 17:21 .The growing awareness we develop through initiation (I am an FM:. initiate) leads us to eventually reach ENLIGHTMENT. I would like to add something to your conclusion regarding "the after life" of your "self". I share your view about the dissolving of your identity as Peter, Tim or Sonia.. but we should include in the picture the role of MEMORY in the case of people's INTENTION who remember you and perpetuate the identity of the deceased, thus connecting past , present and the potentiality of future events. "il n'y a de véritable séparation que dans l'oubli" Khalil Gibran (actual separation in forgetfulness). Although I live in Provence, I have been a follower of yours for many years now, Tim, since I attended one of your workshops in Bournemouth. Thank you again for this series of dialogues about the one and only question that concerns mankind and this 3 D world: What the f*** am I alive for? I did not choose to partake in it....(free will and reincarnation????)
@2:55 - Oh, he wheeled out an expression I coined (I'm sure I wasn't the first, I might add) ... 'life is levels and layers' :) Looking forward to the rest of the conversation. You are an excellent interlocutor, Tim :)
One of my favorite quotes of a key question to ask yourself when you are in the process of gaining the knowledge of who and what you really are: "To know what you are, you must first investigate and know what you are not. Discover all that you are not - your body, feelings, thoughts, time, space, this or that, nothing concrete or abstract, which you perceive can be you. The very act of perceiving shows that you are not that which you perceive." ~ Nisargadatta (20th Century Indian Advaita Mystic)
@@grayowl108 Brian, your response was enthusiastic, and your familiarity with Nisargadatta is uncommon. Therefore, my question. Rephrasing: Is your interest in Nisargadatta primarily philosophical, intellectual, or as a practitioner who is seeking awakening, or is now awakened, typically by the inner focus provided by meditation?
@@grayowl108Thanks for your story and wisdom. Here are a few quotes for your enjoyment. Best! "A 'me' never awakens to the Self... it is the the Self that awakens from a 'me'." - unknown "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness." - Max Planck (1858-1947), Originator of Quantum Theory "The root problem of human life is our false, limited, and inadequate sense of self, our fuzzy identity. Others told us who and what we are. We need to be told that again but this time by and for ourselves." - L. Owen Paxton "...there are no “selves” trying to reach enlightenment or God-Consciousness there is only God playing the eternal game of hide-and-seek." - Jay Jennifer Matthews, Writer
It is unfortunate that you do not speak German. Consciousness is in German "Bewusstsein" which contains "being" and "knowledge": it also tastes a bit like sitting in the middle of knowing the knowledge, and as such I sometimes have the notion that German is closer in its philosophical meanings to Sanskrit than it is to English, even when they are so close otherwise.
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A really incredible conversation. I am unknowingly aligned with Peter Russell’s viewpoint and to me Tim is saying the same thing in just a slightly different way. What an incredible joy this was. Thank you both for this gift.
I very much enjoyed this interesting conversation between two of my favorite beings.
What a refreshing, uplifting joy this conversation was. Thank you Tim and Peter. Keep on keeping on.
"we've started!" - a reminder that we are always in the stream of life
I love this conversation and resonate deeply with what you are both so elegantly expressing and unfolding. Beautiful! ❤️🤗👍🙏
As for the last segment, as an English teacher, I see the underpinning etymology here. 'InFORMation' is the core material we use to drive forward our existence, the manifestation of ideas and structuring of things.
Thank you x I’ve had an NDE and what comes next is amazing and you get to go home ,I’m not religious this to me is science x
I agree completely Leanne
What a lovely talk❤
What a phenomenal conversation. All about leaving ness behind. I liked the discussion about death and the mysterious meaning of existence.
Thank you both! So we're not nouns but verbs, present participles: awaring, eating , drinking, loving, hating, walking, whatevering, being, being, being, letting go, dying.
Thank you Tim and Peter for this brilliant comprehensive talk about the one thing which is relevant: "revealing" the mysterious nature of existence or CONSCIOUSNESS, a substance we are plunged in, which everything is soaked with (even the atoms of a stones are ordered geometrically- Ordo ab Chaos); ..."Nor will people say, ‘Look, here it is,’ or ‘There it is.’ For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst.” Luke 17:21 .The growing awareness we develop through initiation (I am an FM:. initiate) leads us to eventually reach ENLIGHTMENT. I would like to add something to your conclusion regarding "the after life" of your "self". I share your view about the dissolving of your identity as Peter, Tim or Sonia.. but we should include in the picture the role of MEMORY in the case of people's INTENTION who remember you and perpetuate the identity of the deceased, thus connecting past , present and the potentiality of future events. "il n'y a de véritable séparation que dans l'oubli" Khalil Gibran (actual separation in forgetfulness). Although I live in Provence, I have been a follower of yours for many years now, Tim, since I attended one of your workshops in Bournemouth.
Thank you again for this series of dialogues about the one and only question that concerns mankind and this 3 D world: What the f*** am I alive for? I did not choose to partake in it....(free will and reincarnation????)
Tim, really think you should get Zahir Khan on for one of these interviews as I think you both would have a really great conversation.
I have spoken with Zahir but not recorded it.
@2:55 - Oh, he wheeled out an expression I coined (I'm sure I wasn't the first, I might add) ... 'life is levels and layers' :) Looking forward to the rest of the conversation. You are an excellent interlocutor, Tim :)
One of my favorite quotes of a key question to ask yourself when you are in the process of gaining the knowledge of who and what you really are:
"To know what you are,
you must first investigate and know what you are not.
Discover all that you are not - your body, feelings, thoughts, time, space, this or that,
nothing concrete or abstract, which you perceive can be you.
The very act of perceiving shows that
you are not
that which you perceive."
~ Nisargadatta (20th Century Indian Advaita Mystic)
@@grayowl108 Hello! Question: are you a meditator?
@@grayowl108 Brian, your response was enthusiastic, and your familiarity with Nisargadatta is uncommon. Therefore, my question. Rephrasing: Is your interest in Nisargadatta primarily philosophical, intellectual, or as a practitioner who is seeking awakening, or is now awakened, typically by the inner focus provided by meditation?
@@grayowl108Thanks for your story and wisdom. Here are a few quotes for your enjoyment. Best!
"A 'me' never awakens to the Self... it is the the Self that awakens from a 'me'." - unknown
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness." - Max Planck (1858-1947), Originator of Quantum Theory
"The root problem of human life is our false, limited, and inadequate sense of self, our fuzzy identity. Others told us who and what we are. We need to be told that again but this time by and for ourselves." - L. Owen Paxton
"...there are no “selves” trying to reach enlightenment or God-Consciousness there is only God playing the eternal game of hide-and-seek." - Jay Jennifer Matthews, Writer
My biggest memory is saying wow how did I forget this
It is unfortunate that you do not speak German. Consciousness is in German "Bewusstsein" which contains "being" and "knowledge": it also tastes a bit like sitting in the middle of knowing the knowledge, and as such I sometimes have the notion that German is closer in its philosophical meanings to Sanskrit than it is to English, even when they are so close otherwise.