I stopped lifting shortly after my son was born for about 6 months. In that time, my only activity was the unique form of fatherhood that comes with a baby born at 31 weeks with little time for anything else. About 3 months in, I got a bout of back pain worse than anything I'd felt in my life. At 30 years old, it was tough to get out of bed or walk around the zoo. Flash forward, my son is 7 months old, extremely healthy, and my family is at a point where I can leave the house train again. The first 3 weeks were... absolutely awful. I was weak, sore, and everything hurt. However, with every session, things hurt slightly less. Now, 5 weeks in, I'm virtually pain free. Thanks Juggernaut AI! I have no idea what actually caused the pain. I'm 6'7" and 245lbs, so weight could easily have been a factor. I also felt like my body was disintegrating, and wonder if that mindset played into it? The point is, I have no idea what was wrong and the amount of time and money it would have taken to "figure it out" would not have been worth it. It's not shocking to me that there's not a ton of concrete causes and fixes for this.
Good on you for keeping priorities straight and returning to taking care of yourself when you could. Us fitness dad's need to try a lot harder then most lol and you have my respect for grinding it out 🤙
As a physical therapist that works with a big chronic pain population, it’s so pleasing to see Austin summarize the biopsychosocial approach. Excellent stuff delivered exceptionally well. Thanks, guys!
I developed back pain after working as a residential mover over 4 years. It continued after I left the trade and received physical therapy for it with minimal results. I decided to try powerlifting cautiously with strict form, lots of squats and deadlifts. After about 4 months, the chronic pain that plagued me the previous 8 years was gone.
My low back pain is gone since beginning barbell lifting. Used nautilus style machines before, but the barbell movements seem to be better for me. Anecdotal of course…
I stopped lifting about 25 years ago to try and recover better between jiu jitsu classes. I should have dropped jiu jistsu instead. Finally got back to lifting 2 years ago with lots of deadlifts and squats. My back and neck pain has decreased, despite being told by physios that my body wouldn't be up to heavy lifting anymore.
Your not the only one. I picked strength because you'll need strength every single day of your life, most people can go their whole life without fighting hand to hand. Clear winner in how we should spend our time
@@DavidDoingLife I have a couple of dodgy discs in my neck and had supraspinatus tendonitis but I can lift heavy (for me) just fine and my body clearly loves it. Just took me 25 years to rediscover that. I am careful with OHP on account of my shoulder and don't do Australian pullups or large sets pf pushups because of my neck but those are my only restrictions.
@@billking8843 hey whatever you gotta do to get it done man. We all pick up dings and dents on the way, gotta just work around them. I hurt my rotator cuff early on doing lat raises wrong because I didn't know correct form. They are now all but out of the question, but I can over head press just fine lol. Its weird
I think it's more likely activity (or exercise) than strength. I don't think a 500 pound deadlifter is more resilient to pain than a 300 pound deadlifter during everyday tasks. A certain amount of basic functional strength can probably help reduce pain, but the "motion is lotion" concept seems to be the answer here. I would expect the person who focuses on full body muscular endurance to have less pain than the person focusing on strength. I used to chase strength, but then i realized i felt great just lifting regularly without pushing for gains. Adding 100 pounds to my deadlift isn't going to make me feel less pain, it's just going to make me stronger.
A supervisor at work told me to llift with a an upright back , he couldn't lift 20 kg without pain and a grimace on his face . I told him he was full of shit and showed him a video of me doing 120kg bent over barbell rows . Doesn't like me any more .
Had back pain earlier in my life when I didn't workout. I Have been squatting and deadlifting for 10 years now without pain. I squatted around 500 and dead around 600. I simply stopped doing squats and deadlift around 6 months ago because I just didn't feel like doing it anymore. Well, guess what? The back pain started coming back but I can still deadlift 500+ so it isn't because my strength is way down.
I think you just gotta get some blood in there from time to time. I had bad back pain that I staved off for years doing glute bridges with just bodyweight every other day. As long as I was doing my glute bridges I was pain free but if I didn't do 'em for awhile the pain would come back.
Yeah you can keep same levels of strength for very long times after quitting training, but the pain desensitization effect fades really quickly. It's maybe better to keep training consistently even with no weights than just stopping it for good.
The only back injury I have gotten is from crappy deadlift form almost a decade ago and a lack of general bracing. Since then not even a twinge but as these gentlemen point out, I am just a single data point.
Correct movements never hurts anybody depending on the load because like resistance training overload the body structure is design to carry load correctly
I'm so in complete awe of Baraki's neck, I can't concentrate on what he's saying.
Quite frankly I had never noticed he even had a neck
Inb4 sleep apnea from jacked neck
Inb4 sleep apnea from jacked neck
Bro bought alpha destiny’s program
@@dakotagower86 Neck Curls for the girls.
I stopped lifting shortly after my son was born for about 6 months. In that time, my only activity was the unique form of fatherhood that comes with a baby born at 31 weeks with little time for anything else. About 3 months in, I got a bout of back pain worse than anything I'd felt in my life. At 30 years old, it was tough to get out of bed or walk around the zoo.
Flash forward, my son is 7 months old, extremely healthy, and my family is at a point where I can leave the house train again. The first 3 weeks were... absolutely awful. I was weak, sore, and everything hurt. However, with every session, things hurt slightly less. Now, 5 weeks in, I'm virtually pain free. Thanks Juggernaut AI!
I have no idea what actually caused the pain. I'm 6'7" and 245lbs, so weight could easily have been a factor. I also felt like my body was disintegrating, and wonder if that mindset played into it? The point is, I have no idea what was wrong and the amount of time and money it would have taken to "figure it out" would not have been worth it. It's not shocking to me that there's not a ton of concrete causes and fixes for this.
Good on you for keeping priorities straight and returning to taking care of yourself when you could. Us fitness dad's need to try a lot harder then most lol and you have my respect for grinding it out 🤙
As a physical therapist that works with a big chronic pain population, it’s so pleasing to see Austin summarize the biopsychosocial approach. Excellent stuff delivered exceptionally well. Thanks, guys!
I developed back pain after working as a residential mover over 4 years. It continued after I left the trade and received physical therapy for it with minimal results. I decided to try powerlifting cautiously with strict form, lots of squats and deadlifts. After about 4 months, the chronic pain that plagued me the previous 8 years was gone.
My low back pain is gone since beginning barbell lifting. Used nautilus style machines before, but the barbell movements seem to be better for me. Anecdotal of course…
Same for me
Most machines dont work a whole lot of posterior chain, so thats probably a factor 😀
Australia has really been outpacing the US in regards to chronic pain research. Props to Dr. Baraki for highlighting this.
I stopped lifting about 25 years ago to try and recover better between jiu jitsu classes. I should have dropped jiu jistsu instead. Finally got back to lifting 2 years ago with lots of deadlifts and squats. My back and neck pain has decreased, despite being told by physios that my body wouldn't be up to heavy lifting anymore.
Your not the only one. I picked strength because you'll need strength every single day of your life, most people can go their whole life without fighting hand to hand. Clear winner in how we should spend our time
@@DavidDoingLife I have a couple of dodgy discs in my neck and had supraspinatus tendonitis but I can lift heavy (for me) just fine and my body clearly loves it. Just took me 25 years to rediscover that. I am careful with OHP on account of my shoulder and don't do Australian pullups or large sets pf pushups because of my neck but those are my only restrictions.
@@billking8843 hey whatever you gotta do to get it done man. We all pick up dings and dents on the way, gotta just work around them. I hurt my rotator cuff early on doing lat raises wrong because I didn't know correct form. They are now all but out of the question, but I can over head press just fine lol. Its weird
@@DavidDoingLife Ha, lat raises are so out for me I had totally forgotten about them!
When staring out with kettlebell swings, my chronic lowerback pain (something blocked, I believe) just went away magically and has not returned since.
Link for the Australian study?
www.safetyandquality.gov.au/standards/clinical-care-standards/low-back-pain-clinical-care-standard/quality-statements
I think it's more likely activity (or exercise) than strength. I don't think a 500 pound deadlifter is more resilient to pain than a 300 pound deadlifter during everyday tasks. A certain amount of basic functional strength can probably help reduce pain, but the "motion is lotion" concept seems to be the answer here. I would expect the person who focuses on full body muscular endurance to have less pain than the person focusing on strength.
I used to chase strength, but then i realized i felt great just lifting regularly without pushing for gains. Adding 100 pounds to my deadlift isn't going to make me feel less pain, it's just going to make me stronger.
Where is the link to the September 2022 Low Back Pain Clinical Care Standard From Australia?
A supervisor at work told me to llift with a an upright back , he couldn't lift 20 kg without pain and a grimace on his face . I told him he was full of shit and showed him a video of me doing 120kg bent over barbell rows . Doesn't like me any more .
Time for a new job
Not seeing that link guys. 😉
www.safetyandquality.gov.au/standards/clinical-care-standards/low-back-pain-clinical-care-standard
Had back pain earlier in my life when I didn't workout. I Have been squatting and deadlifting for 10 years now without pain. I squatted around 500 and dead around 600. I simply stopped doing squats and deadlift around 6 months ago because I just didn't feel like doing it anymore. Well, guess what? The back pain started coming back but I can still deadlift 500+ so it isn't because my strength is way down.
your deadlift NEED to be over 600 at all times for a pain free back. it's proven (scientifically).
I think you just gotta get some blood in there from time to time. I had bad back pain that I staved off for years doing glute bridges with just bodyweight every other day. As long as I was doing my glute bridges I was pain free but if I didn't do 'em for awhile the pain would come back.
Yeah you can keep same levels of strength for very long times after quitting training, but the pain desensitization effect fades really quickly. It's maybe better to keep training consistently even with no weights than just stopping it for good.
The only back injury I have gotten is from crappy deadlift form almost a decade ago and a lack of general bracing. Since then not even a twinge but as these gentlemen point out, I am just a single data point.
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But Rip said the best cure for back pain is deadlifting
@@TheJackOfAllTrades777 it did for me too
Complete opposite for me.
Mixed bag for me. It helps in general, but sometimes there are flare ups and I just gotta go out for a walk
Correct movements never hurts anybody depending on the load because like resistance training overload the body structure is design to carry load correctly
I trust this is sarcasm. *fingers crossed
Prevention, yes. Then for recovery