Thanks, I feel like this video would have been much better at a more relaxed pace where you can actually explain everything you are doing withot being in such a hurry. I had to stop the video several times indeed to check what you had just said, or go back to see again what you were doing at the speed of light. Perhaps a 15 or 20 minutes version would have been perfect. I know attention spans are low lately, but I guess we can all spend 15-20 min to watch such good content.
I would just like to add my grain of salt to this community and state the difference between Adaptation, Orchestration, and Arrangement, which I think the term "orchestration" is used freely and frequently without much thought in what it really implies. Adaptation: Is taking the original idea, and passing it to the orchestra as loyal as it can be to the original composer´s intention, no doublings, no extra lines or counter-melodies, no change of key, etc... (like most of the work Hollywood Orchestrators do in the business today!). Orchestration: Is when you actually "translate" the piano nuances to the orchestra, for example, very fast arpeggios easily played on the piano would not work exactly in the same way in the orchestra in the strings, or the pedal of the piano will have to be "emulated" by sustained notes in the orchestra passed by several instruments, well balanced and in the same timbre. You might change the "key" of the piece to another one to be better suited for the character and register of the instruments of the piece. Doublings, fillers and slight extra lines might be permissible if the music and the character of the written score call for it (very important to be able to read a score and notation to understand what the composer wanted in terms of character and dynamics, which is written in the score, like a "piano", "mezzo-forte", "espressivo", "dolente", all this will AFFECT the shape, colour and instrument choice of the orchestration!). Arrangement: Is when you take most of the original composer material, but you re-arrange it, add melodies that did not exist before, counter-melodies, re-harmonizations, voicings, intros, transitions, development. Like a lot of today´s arrangements of live video game music or film concerts. (I really recommend you guys search for the work of Jonne Valtonen, he is in my opinion, one of today´s most impressive/creative/talented orchestral arrangers for Video Games!). The most important thing to take from this is, there are NO shortcuts or CHEATS for this, a GOOD adaptation, orchestration or arrangement is very hard to do, takes decades or more to be able to be good at this, takes a LOT of study, musical intuition and knowledge (which is gained by listening to a lot of music, learning a lot, reading a lot and playing a lot!). Every single piece of music is different, not all the same voicings and instruments can be used the same way every time, it´s very important to understand the music first, the character and the overall story of the piece as well as the technical pros and cons of every single instrument of the orchestra! Being able to read, write and do copying is not an option for an arranger or orchestrator, it´s called being professional, you have to do a fully orchestrated written score, parts, proofread and print all the music ready to be placed on the musicians stands to be played or recorded since you cant send the orchestra or conductor a midi file... This does not mean I am a really good arranger or orchestrator in any way, or saying Alex isn´t (loved his version of Sonic), I´m just sharing what I´ve learned and experienced in the professional world! Hope it helped anyone! :)
The violins’ run in 4:20 is actually quite an easy figure to play on a real string instrument - so no worries, and the “if it sounds good, it is good” philosophy is totally legitimate! 🙂🎻
So, you still can sell your music even if it can't be played by a real orchestra? I thought that's the main requirement for your music if you're doing it commercially.
@@cazer194 In a lot of cases what you're selling is just the audio file, not music sheets. Big movies will still have the music recorded by a live orchestra, in which case you should be more aware of what is and what is not possible to do on real instruments.
The hardcore followers of this channel might have a deja-vu with this tutorial. The reason for it is that I already made an analysis of this track last year. However, I decided to make a shorter version of it. I'm thinking of doing that for other tracks I made in the past as well to make the channel easier to browse and digest. What do you think of this new format?
Like it 👍🏻 maybe find a happy medium between longer and shorter tutorials. The length worked for this one but id happily watch a 15 min tutorial aswell as your hour long ones! Either way thanks time and time again for these tutorials. Slowly going from amateur hobbyist to slightly less amateur hobbyist lol. Currently working on a film score for a movie im making this spring hopefully I can incorporate things from your tutorials into my tracks!
I like it, however what I would really prefer would be another "track from scratch" video series from you. Start with nothing, finalize with a fully mixed and masterd original composition. I would totally love that!
I also think i like shorter videos now because my level is way different than when I started following your channel .. one and half year ago when I started following your channel and other channels my level of knowledge was so limited so I enjoyed longer tutorials ( if i saw short tutorials then i would not have understood any thing ) , now as I know way more , I enjoy the snappy videos as I get it much quicker ( and I owe you a lot for that ).. so I guess short or long videos will cater to different segments of your viewers ... so one way to think of your videos is as an instructor who have different class levels .. may be in the play lists you can group your videos according to how advanced is the viewer.
Hollywood session musicians (the best musicians In the world) could sight read that. Those guys and girls sight read pretty much everything on film scores. of course, they couldn't get it exact on the first try, but after a few run-throughs, the final has been recorded.
@@TheHiYaku I know, but... if you practice 4 hours /day any sport, your results will be impresive, box, carate, golf, anything, you will be champion of your country. If you practice 4 hour/day for 10 years any instrument... haha, you will be just average musician
Quick thing, many of the runs you refer to as "arpeggios" but they are not. An arpeggio outlines the members of a chord, (root, 3rd, 5th etc.), and you have created step-wise runs, or scalar runs. Excellent video regardless, you clearly know what you're doing.
As a pianist since many many years, I am into this kind of processes very recently, and going through the exact hurdles and solutions. Thank you very much for your effort and this informative video.
'I'm not Mozart, I'm not doing anything crazy' Hmm, i think you might be ! Awesome content, as usual, nice to see the return of this track. It was one of my favourites for sure :)
IDK about strings since I don't play strings, but I know for sure the flute runs are possible. It was sometimes all my part was. Dang freaking runs lol. Great content!
There is a lot to be learnt from this Sonic track you made, I have seen it in numerous tutorials and it is the only Composing from Scratch I've seen from begging to end. For anyone interested, I really encourage you to become a Patreon supporter and see it for yourself. For me, it really taught me to experiment. And experimenting during composition and orchestration has to be one of the most important aspects of production as it makes your track stand out way more.
Cheers, and thanks for supporting on Patreon! This is probably my second favorite re-orchestrations of the ones I made, the finale of the track probably deserves a separete tutorial of its own.
man when i started to follow your videos i just wanna make simple trap beats and no more but now i really appreciate all aspects of the music and i want always more thank you
This guy was ahead of his time by a year and 4 months. If you had ads on the video and was making profit from it you would be able to now with the 8 minute limit videos
@@AlexMoukala Thank you so much man! Your tutorials are great I learned alot but i feel like i miss something because i am from the "EDM" production community and want to get into this type of music too but i feel like i still miss out on something even tho i understand your tips and tricks in the tutorials.
Wow, you make this so easy. I've been using FLstudio for like 3 months and I still can't fully utilize 80% of the other functions. I recently saw your templates video and that's what I aim to focus next. What's really blows me away is how easy you know all the shortcuts. Everytime I look down at the keyboard I have to make sure it hit the right keys. Aghhh I am so far behind!
Yo I just wanna let you know that I've never heard of BRSO before this vid and it's been a freakin' LIKE CHANGER so far, my dude. Keep up that good stuff
Wow super impressed!!! - I would love to get into this type of music but, looks complicated. What's that saying - "Where's theirs a will theirs a way" - definitely looking into it - cheers! 👍👍👍
This was a dope explanation on taking a melody and orchestrating it to something bigger. And I like how you took the melody from Sonic the Hedge 2 game scene lol. Nice one. I always liked those composers from japan and how they created dope melodies and counter melodies to their compositions.
"Today, we're going to go from this..." *_*Nice, simple enough piano sketch plays_** 😏 "...to something 'a *little'* more like *this..."* *_*Proceeds to dumbfound listeners with unleashed arrangement_** 😱😱
thank you indeed for your dissectible guidance, which is the clearest and best teaching that I've ever heard: it heightens my intuition when I begin to work on my own music arrangement! good job! keep it up!
First time I changed speed to 0.75x instead of going to 1.25x. Also, nice job, dude! That's amazing, and exactly what I was looking for! Will check the full version later. Thanks!!!
Hi Alex, I like what you said in your Philosophy, When you said (paraphrased) If it sounds good go with it. I have 2 keyboards and 2 D.A.W.s One is by: Cakewalk but it's called: Music Creator 6 (it's getting old, lol ) My other one is called: Mixcraft 9 Pro Studio by Acoustica I have version 7 and 8 also, but I only use my 9 version for now. Both of them need updating. Lol. It is amazing how these D.A.Ws can make wonderful music. But I found out that it takes time to get it right. Peace! Terry
For those who feel this tutorial is too fast, 40 minutes "slow" version of it here:
ruclips.net/video/-oDAVGFMiuY/видео.html
Holy shit, the spoken tempo
Hi,
Do you take song background scoring projects?
Thanks, I feel like this video would have been much better at a more relaxed pace where you can actually explain everything you are doing withot being in such a hurry. I had to stop the video several times indeed to check what you had just said, or go back to see again what you were doing at the speed of light.
Perhaps a 15 or 20 minutes version would have been perfect. I know attention spans are low lately, but I guess we can all spend 15-20 min to watch such good content.
quality ass content dude
Love your stuff too, Rudy!
How is Rudy everywhere
@Shannon Mitchell Yo I think we must be pretty versatile too to _see_ him everywhere 😀
@@benjaminz.l.9617 Woah true
my man dropping actual *quality* content on april fools’! the madlad did it again
Haha, cheers my dude!
thought i was watching in 1.25 speed
Yeah)
*Sonic speed*
0.75 speed seems normal
Something somethBLAST PROCESSING
If you actually play it with 0.75 speed, It sounds so natural. It's creepy.
I would just like to add my grain of salt to this community and state the difference between Adaptation, Orchestration, and Arrangement, which I think the term "orchestration" is used freely and frequently without much thought in what it really implies.
Adaptation: Is taking the original idea, and passing it to the orchestra as loyal as it can be to the original composer´s intention, no doublings, no extra lines or counter-melodies, no change of key, etc... (like most of the work Hollywood Orchestrators do in the business today!).
Orchestration: Is when you actually "translate" the piano nuances to the orchestra, for example, very fast arpeggios easily played on the piano would not work exactly in the same way in the orchestra in the strings, or the pedal of the piano will have to be "emulated" by sustained notes in the orchestra passed by several instruments, well balanced and in the same timbre. You might change the "key" of the piece to another one to be better suited for the character and register of the instruments of the piece. Doublings, fillers and slight extra lines might be permissible if the music and the character of the written score call for it (very important to be able to read a score and notation to understand what the composer wanted in terms of character and dynamics, which is written in the score, like a "piano", "mezzo-forte", "espressivo", "dolente", all this will AFFECT the shape, colour and instrument choice of the orchestration!).
Arrangement: Is when you take most of the original composer material, but you re-arrange it, add melodies that did not exist before, counter-melodies, re-harmonizations, voicings, intros, transitions, development. Like a lot of today´s arrangements of live video game music or film concerts. (I really recommend you guys search for the work of Jonne Valtonen, he is in my opinion, one of today´s most impressive/creative/talented orchestral arrangers for Video Games!).
The most important thing to take from this is, there are NO shortcuts or CHEATS for this, a GOOD adaptation, orchestration or arrangement is very hard to do, takes decades or more to be able to be good at this, takes a LOT of study, musical intuition and knowledge (which is gained by listening to a lot of music, learning a lot, reading a lot and playing a lot!). Every single piece of music is different, not all the same voicings and instruments can be used the same way every time, it´s very important to understand the music first, the character and the overall story of the piece as well as the technical pros and cons of every single instrument of the orchestra!
Being able to read, write and do copying is not an option for an arranger or orchestrator, it´s called being professional, you have to do a fully orchestrated written score, parts, proofread and print all the music ready to be placed on the musicians stands to be played or recorded since you cant send the orchestra or conductor a midi file...
This does not mean I am a really good arranger or orchestrator in any way, or saying Alex isn´t (loved his version of Sonic), I´m just sharing what I´ve learned and experienced in the professional world!
Hope it helped anyone! :)
Smart guy
"I'm not Mozart"
*Proceeds to write an award winning score, good enough to amaze Vivaldi*
The violins’ run in 4:20 is actually quite an easy figure to play on a real string instrument - so no worries, and the “if it sounds good, it is good” philosophy is totally legitimate! 🙂🎻
So, you still can sell your music even if it can't be played by a real orchestra? I thought that's the main requirement for your music if you're doing it commercially.
@@cazer194 In a lot of cases what you're selling is just the audio file, not music sheets. Big movies will still have the music recorded by a live orchestra, in which case you should be more aware of what is and what is not possible to do on real instruments.
@@adamszwajcowski It was sarcastic bro.
@@CombatCatYT In any case, the reply was still very informative. bro
Fantastic! Now I just need about $10,000 for those plugins.
Just?
LOL You sure? You really don't need to spend that much
vst crack dot com
$30 a month and you can get the entire EastWest Orchestral Collection, which might not be as good but gets close
@@AlexMoukala and, What about RAM usage?
Never been to this channel before. 3 minutes in and I'm pretty blown away by how simple and precise this guy is. Subscribed.
The hardcore followers of this channel might have a deja-vu with this tutorial.
The reason for it is that I already made an analysis of this track last year. However, I decided to make a shorter version of it.
I'm thinking of doing that for other tracks I made in the past as well to make the channel easier to browse and digest. What do you think of this new format?
Like it 👍🏻 maybe find a happy medium between longer and shorter tutorials. The length worked for this one but id happily watch a 15 min tutorial aswell as your hour long ones! Either way thanks time and time again for these tutorials. Slowly going from amateur hobbyist to slightly less amateur hobbyist lol. Currently working on a film score for a movie im making this spring hopefully I can incorporate things from your tutorials into my tracks!
I like it, however what I would really prefer would be another "track from scratch" video series from you. Start with nothing, finalize with a fully mixed and masterd original composition. I would totally love that!
Great one , shorter and to the point . Love it
@@BluemountScore track from scratch isn't dead, nor are longer tutorials!
However, I think there's going to be lots of short ones on the way too.
I also think i like shorter videos now because my level is way different than when I started following your channel .. one and half year ago when I started following your channel and other channels my level of knowledge was so limited so I enjoyed longer tutorials ( if i saw short tutorials then i would not have understood any thing ) , now as I know way more , I enjoy the snappy videos as I get it much quicker ( and I owe you a lot for that ).. so I guess short or long videos will cater to different segments of your viewers ... so one way to think of your videos is as an instructor who have different class levels .. may be in the play lists you can group your videos according to how advanced is the viewer.
Violinist here, I would say the run at 4:19 isn’t impossible, difficult like you said, definitely not sight readable. Doable, yes.
Hollywood session musicians (the best musicians In the world) could sight read that. Those guys and girls sight read pretty much everything on film scores. of course, they couldn't get it exact on the first try, but after a few run-throughs, the final has been recorded.
Easy if you practice 40 hours/day
@@NarendraWicaksono maybe, but that is the only way to play instrument. Otherwise... go and play basketball
@@zorancalic65 you'd be amazed at how much effort actually goes into being top tier basketball
@@TheHiYaku I know, but... if you practice 4 hours /day any sport, your results will be impresive, box, carate, golf, anything, you will be champion of your country. If you practice 4 hour/day for 10 years any instrument... haha, you will be just average musician
"I'm not doing anything crazy" - Alex Moukala
Quick thing, many of the runs you refer to as "arpeggios" but they are not. An arpeggio outlines the members of a chord, (root, 3rd, 5th etc.), and you have created step-wise runs, or scalar runs.
Excellent video regardless, you clearly know what you're doing.
Dude!!! You are a great composer!
The way you explain sounds and the emotions it brings you is so accurate.
As a pianist since many many years, I am into this kind of processes very recently, and going through the exact hurdles and solutions. Thank you very much for your effort and this informative video.
This video is art, you're a true craftsman. Never hit a subscribe button so hard.
Damn, Umtiti, you’re talented bro
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
Haha
'I'm not Mozart, I'm not doing anything crazy'
Hmm, i think you might be !
Awesome content, as usual, nice to see the return of this track. It was one of my favourites for sure :)
IDK about strings since I don't play strings, but I know for sure the flute runs are possible. It was sometimes all my part was. Dang freaking runs lol. Great content!
Upper strings player here, they're definitely possible. Need to be a good player on a good day, but they're doable for sure.
There is a lot to be learnt from this Sonic track you made, I have seen it in numerous tutorials and it is the only Composing from Scratch I've seen from begging to end. For anyone interested, I really encourage you to become a Patreon supporter and see it for yourself. For me, it really taught me to experiment. And experimenting during composition and orchestration has to be one of the most important aspects of production as it makes your track stand out way more.
Cheers, and thanks for supporting on Patreon!
This is probably my second favorite re-orchestrations of the ones I made, the finale of the track probably deserves a separete tutorial of its own.
Love this, quick and straight to the point. Keep up the great work Alex! 👌🏼
man when i started to follow your videos i just wanna make simple trap beats and no more but now i really appreciate all aspects of the music and i want always more thank you
This guy was ahead of his time by a year and 4 months. If you had ads on the video and was making profit from it you would be able to now with the 8 minute limit videos
Wow this is really awesome, I actually do have a bit of experience in orchestral music, but this might take it to another level, thanks dude!
This is the best tutorial I've seen on FL. Great work!
I feel like am I a dumby now
Hi, can you make a absolute beginner guide on how to make orchestral music please? Thank you.
That's on my bucket list. ;)
@@AlexMoukala Thank you so much man! Your tutorials are great I learned alot but i feel like i miss something because i am from the "EDM" production community and want to get into this type of music too but i feel like i still miss out on something even tho i understand your tips and tricks in the tutorials.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, you got a new fan/follower.
Nice work =)
Alex "Stunning Genius" Moukala
Wow, you make this so easy. I've been using FLstudio for like 3 months and I still can't fully utilize 80% of the other functions. I recently saw your templates video and that's what I aim to focus next. What's really blows me away is how easy you know all the shortcuts. Everytime I look down at the keyboard I have to make sure it hit the right keys. Aghhh I am so far behind!
Orchestra tools from Metropolis Ark 1 is so great. Thank you that you explained everything in detail. It helped me a lot for my compositions.
is it worth to but it? i think i will on black friday
@@baduk5707 I would only buy it if you feel you have enough time for using it.
@@STARBASS-Thema you have that one?
@@baduk5707 yes of course
@@STARBASS-Thema and what are you doing for living ? Are you use it for your job?
Yo I just wanna let you know that I've never heard of BRSO before this vid and it's been a freakin' LIKE CHANGER so far, my dude. Keep up that good stuff
I really like your new teaching format. Thank you.
I am so thankfull for your work. The style of education here in RUclips is very on point. Greetings from Finland.
So much info in so little time... Precise and perfect... You go Alex!!!!
Wow thanks Alex. I've just written some piano pieces looking for orchestra arrangement. This would be more than useful!
My phone speakers haven’t done your work justice along with RUclips’s compression. I’ll have to like and come back
Awesome stuff! Very helpful!
Great job buddy! Greetings from Barcelona 👍👍
Loving the fast and the succinct format. That sonic cover is epic af
Cheers my man!
Wow super impressed!!! - I would love to get into this type of music but, looks complicated. What's that saying - "Where's theirs a will theirs a way" - definitely looking into it - cheers! 👍👍👍
Very compact and dense, very cohesive and instructive. Like a direct injection of inspiration.
great video
Your video's are so helpful bro, I'm so glad I found this channel!!
Came here thinking it was for begginers 😶
Anthony Varela I agree 🤣🤣🤣
Keep watching his stuff he's the best of the best
dude u have a perfect Italian accent so far
That’s insane, you have an incredible talent
Wow I'm so happy I discovered you. Great job man!
some people are talented man!
I will view this video again but at 1/10th of the original speed to understand all the tricks you are using so fluently :-) Incredible efficient job !
How I only found this channel now is a mystery 🙌🏼😕 super grateful.
Are you somehow italian? You spell very well italian words (staccato arpeggio etc.)
Magnificent piece of work man, keep on going!
Yes he is Italian
Holy.. dude thats what I need right now! thanks
How to do automation like this???
Dude this is awesome! Great job
Soooo cooool! Love the track, but also love the breakdown. :) Great stuff!
This was a dope explanation on taking a melody and orchestrating it to something bigger. And I like how you took the melody from Sonic the Hedge 2 game scene lol. Nice one. I always liked those composers from japan and how they created dope melodies and counter melodies to their compositions.
Great tutorial! Answered so many questions I'm having in such a short time! Thanks!
Great work man. So much info crammed in 8min. subbed
"Today, we're going to go from this..."
*_*Nice, simple enough piano sketch plays_** 😏
"...to something 'a *little'* more like *this..."*
*_*Proceeds to dumbfound listeners with unleashed arrangement_** 😱😱
Beginning my AMT Tour. Wow! Mega mahalos!
thank you indeed for your dissectible guidance, which is the clearest and best teaching that I've ever heard: it heightens my intuition when I begin to work on my own music arrangement! good job! keep it up!
First time I changed speed to 0.75x instead of going to 1.25x. Also, nice job, dude! That's amazing, and exactly what I was looking for! Will check the full version later. Thanks!!!
Hi Alex, I like what you said in your Philosophy, When you said (paraphrased) If it sounds good go with it. I have 2 keyboards and 2 D.A.W.s One is by: Cakewalk but it's called: Music Creator 6 (it's getting old, lol ) My other one is called: Mixcraft 9 Pro Studio by Acoustica I have version 7 and 8 also, but I only use my 9 version for now. Both of them need updating. Lol. It is amazing how these D.A.Ws can make wonderful music. But I found out that it takes time to get it right. Peace! Terry
Okay, I'm off to making music now. 👊🏻👊🏻
Man just hyper orchestrated Green Hill Zone that was amazing ❤❤❤❤
Great like always
You are amazing! So much useful and incredible things in your channel
I stumbled upon this video and really enjoyed it. Thank you for creating and sharing this.
The reason why this is fast is because the song is the green hill zone theme from sonic and you gotta go fast
This is awesome! Hats off!
This was very useful, thanks
You are one of a Kind, a BEAST🔥💯
What a great video, thanks Alex :D
Seriously impressive stuff.
Just brilliant stuff!!
Love your tutorials💜
THIS IS AMAZING
Brilliant! Thank you Alex.
i hope all your freakin dreams come true man
Wow! Fantastic job.
Maaannn...... this is crazy... love your songs
This is incredible. Thanks so much for this vid!
"Capitalize on the silences." Wow. Thanks for this.
Sophisticated Hardware and Software created masterpiece
Wow, this is very interesting! Excited to try some of the techniques you suggest!
Exceptional video. Very useful.
I dono why, but i laughed so hard at 0:07 . His face is full of expression
You have got extraordinary Composition and Mixing skills. Really great work specialist in Orchestral Music 🎼 🎶 🎵
amazing work!
Impressive man!
Thank you :)
so nice!! congrats
Subscribed and liked your video , thank you for giving us a little insight of this, I’m trying to learn as much as I can
I would love to make it sound like that in sibelius
OK... I have no words... GREAT >A< !!!...
Hi Alex, can you make an orchestration and tutorial from Hans Zimmer's Angels and Demons? Love from Finland!
This is literally epic 👌🏼
I really liked the tutorial but cana you please mention the woodwinds library?
It's CineWinds CORE
Man, you're good! Super explanation. Thanks!