A Trick for writing Orchestral Music like the Pros

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  • Опубликовано: 7 апр 2022
  • Let's talk about something that's necessary to write Orchestral Music like the Pros: layering.
    Be it layering different instruments, different articulations or even different libraries together, this is a fundamental skill to understand in order to achieve the full sound you often hear in Triple-A Games & Film scores from people like Hans Zimmer, Ramin Djawadi & more.
    In this example we'll talk about it from the perspective of a certain brass section in my latest original composition.
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    🎻 LIBRARIES & SOFTWARE:
    - Strings: Metropolis Ark 1, Metropolis Ark 3, Cinematic Strings 2, Fluid Shorts, Jaeger
    - Brass: Metropolis Ark 1, Metropolis Ark 3, Century Brass, Jaeger
    - Percussion: Damage, Rhapsody Orchestral Percussion
    - Choir: Metropolis Ark 1, Oceania
    - Piano: The Giant
    - Solo Vocals: Jaeger, Vocalisa
    - Guitars: Guitar Rig
    - Trailer SFX: Juggernaut, Cinematic Trailers Designed, Scenes From The Multiverse Vol.1, Shredders, AVA Instinct
    - Mixing & Mastering: iZotope Ozone, ValhallaRoom, ValhallaShimmer, FL Studio Plugins
    - DAW: FL Studio 20
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    💻 HARDWARE & PC SPECS:
    - Desktop PC: 3.7 GHz Intel Core i7 8700k / 32GB DDR4 RAM / 2TB Samsung Evo860 M.2 SSD
    - Laptop PC: Asus ROG GLW752 (2.6GHz Intel Core i7-6700HQ / 16GB DDR4 RAM / 1TB Samsung Evo860 M.2 SSD)
    - Audio Interface: M-Audio M-Track Plus
    - MIDI Keyboard: M-Audio Keystation 49 MkIII
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Комментарии • 371

  • @AlexMoukala
    @AlexMoukala  2 года назад +157

    I realized I never made a tutorial about Orchestral Layering before, so thought of making a quick one based on a Brass example from my latest original track.
    "Granular" videos like this one aren't easy to make because I know they will be less exciting than those videos where I show 999 things in 5 minutes, but hey, sometimes the best knowledge ain't too fun to learn. :P
    Speaking of which, if you're interested in signing to the Composer Accelerator Program, you should know it's accepting 300 people max and I expect it may sell out soon!
    You can check it out here: evenant.io/composer-accelerator/uv6tGj

    • @StoriesAndPringles
      @StoriesAndPringles 2 года назад +1

      am very appreciative of videos like this so, thank you!

    • @charlesrobichaud-parahawkm4088
      @charlesrobichaud-parahawkm4088 2 года назад +2

      Thank you for being so generous with your time to share your insights.

    • @jordanboscomusic
      @jordanboscomusic 2 года назад

      Alex, grazie.
      Per ogni "piccolo" insegnamento riguardante la composizione di musica orchestrale (e non solo) ma soprattutto perché a me personalmente hai dato la speranza di riuscire a lavorare con la musica anche se si compone a orecchio.
      In 15 anni che compongo non mi sono mai sentito adatto perché non ho le conoscenze teoriche adatte a qualcuno che vuole definirsi compositore. Mi sono reso conto che il mio pensiero era errato in quanto tali conoscenze le stavo già imparando nel corso del tempo ma non accettavo di averle fatte mie e quindi di poter ricominciare a comporre e integrare nel mio lavoro anche la mia musica. Grazie.

    • @lamontmcleod2
      @lamontmcleod2 2 года назад +1

      Hey Alex man, loving your videos.
      I have a very basic question that I can't seem to find an answer to anywhere because it seems almost too easy for anyone to bother answering... but what would the POINT of Kontakt be, if you have say, Cubase or FL like yourself... some people seem to use Kontakt to go between the DAW and the samples themselves. Just wondering why?
      Sorry for the noob question haha, cheers mate, love your work!

    • @OneMinuteAge
      @OneMinuteAge 2 года назад +1

      Absolutely great video with already so many information - thanks a lot!! And I'd so much love to learn more about it - due to the fact orchestral and cinematic music is unfortunately more the hobby kind of music making part of my day, I can not dive to deep..... yet!!

  • @PaulOwenMusic
    @PaulOwenMusic 2 года назад +352

    I like all versions of Alex but Alex The Teacher is my favourite.

  • @0nshore
    @0nshore 2 года назад +174

    For a while now I've been thinking about composing orchestral/cinematic music. This definitely gives me motivation, I love this man's energy

    • @Risuaita5886
      @Risuaita5886 2 года назад +25

      I urge you to! I started from scratch without any knowledge on music theory, and am still only learning, but boy oh boy it is fun to create orchestral music even in beginner level!

    • @Pheonix8877
      @Pheonix8877 Год назад +12

      @@Risuaita5886 orchestral was where I started and I don’t think anything else has quite inspired me as much. Unlike other genres It requires you to really utilize notes and chords at the most foundational level, rather than getting away with loops/samples/synths that easily give more texture and layering all on their own.

  • @chenglenyang
    @chenglenyang 2 года назад +97

    The layering trick is (imo) the most important tip I've recently learned to create that specific power and flow you're looking for in a specific mix. It's hard to get specific orchestral samples to sound full and rich or emotional and intimate and layering really helps realize that sound you're trying to envision. Wonderful tutorial Alex!

  • @timtapp5931
    @timtapp5931 2 года назад +43

    Layering is a big part of Fugue in Baroque music too. When combining voicing, counterpoint harmonies, call and response melodies, with creative layering the possibilities can be absolutely spellbinding!

  • @chazi4760
    @chazi4760 7 месяцев назад +9

    No bs straight onto the tutorial and details. Simply perfect ❤

  • @Thorens
    @Thorens Год назад +14

    It's insane how much information I got from this quick fire tutorial. Just goes to show that you only need a good teacher, no matter the subject 💪👏

  • @seanclark6803
    @seanclark6803 4 месяца назад +3

    dawg said it provides warmth, that shit gave me chills

  • @screweddevelopment12
    @screweddevelopment12 2 года назад +25

    layering is nice but it's also important to consider masking and coherence when arranging. Don Juan by Strauss has this unison 16th note run that sounds horrible and muddled in the full arrangement bc there are so many instruments occupying the same frequency space, not to mention the slight time deviations between 60 players that are often more than 30ft apart. If it cannot even be heard in the mixdown, it's just senseless noise distracting from the rest of the piece. Even purposeful noise should occupy it's own frequency space.

  • @Ponk_80
    @Ponk_80 Год назад +4

    I love your passion for music, I can feel the joy it brings you to make this kind of music.

  • @williamdrahir4239
    @williamdrahir4239 2 года назад +1

    How long have I been yearning for new vids! Thank you man

  • @someoneshappyness
    @someoneshappyness 9 месяцев назад

    I love how u make this tutorials so fast and quick u get to the point so fast and tell what to do
    Without much talking around
    I love that

  • @ManuelKorrigan
    @ManuelKorrigan 2 года назад +2

    I really liked the Power RAngers example !! YOu are awesome! Definitely the most epic tutorials for epic music +more! i have learned a lot from that channel! Keep up the good work... Take care!

  • @KYOURAKUbou
    @KYOURAKUbou Год назад +2

    I cannot imagine how do you mix them so well even there are so much stuff! Such great work!

  • @chuckhazenmusic
    @chuckhazenmusic 2 года назад +23

    Learned to orchestrate music from this guys videos alone and still learn more tools every time he puts a video out! Thanks Alex, keep turning out the bangers!

  • @flowa44
    @flowa44 Год назад

    Thank you my brother for the great tips glad to have you around to give us certain tricks and secrets, and layering is definitely one of them going to the roast and learning it the right way appreciate you man keep up the great work👍🏿🙏🏿

  • @mikeweber5362
    @mikeweber5362 8 месяцев назад +1

    Your creativity and enthusiasm are inspirational! I am so delighted to have found your channel. Emotions clearly drive your musical ideas and that is the essence of truly great music. Your music engages the listener's feelings and emotions. Thanks for sharing your gift with us. (and your jacket is dope as well:)

  • @nathanmarshallmusic
    @nathanmarshallmusic 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video and all the information.Tour music and enthusiasm are infectious. Keep it coming

  • @Snutty123
    @Snutty123 2 года назад +2

    This is so helpful Alex, I learnt so much . Honestly top notch 👌

  • @ComposerMichaelDow
    @ComposerMichaelDow 2 года назад

    Lovely stuff man! Epic sounding for sure!

  • @paopis
    @paopis 2 года назад +3

    Great! Now you are basically forcing me to create several email accounts allowing me to make as many RUclips accounts so that I can like this video 200 times. At least. Thank you!

  • @dutonic
    @dutonic 2 года назад +264

    Composers hate him! This 1 weird trick will make you better than Hans Zimmer!

    • @PinkCrocodile
      @PinkCrocodile 2 года назад +27

      You will be famous tomorrow if you know this one trick!

    • @JohnValhallaMusic
      @JohnValhallaMusic 2 года назад +1

      The SECRET trick pros DON’T want you to know!

    • @chessmusictheory4644
      @chessmusictheory4644 2 года назад +13

      Better then Zimmer. lolz

    • @SebSosa
      @SebSosa 2 года назад +4

      😂😂😂

  • @Heosmin
    @Heosmin 2 года назад

    I was listening to your podcast with AZODi and got the notification for this. Thank you for your tutorials Alex

  • @hitman17011986
    @hitman17011986 2 года назад

    That was extraordinarily beautiful.. your videos are really very informative!

  • @dylanladwa7232
    @dylanladwa7232 2 года назад

    ive been waiting for a new tutorial forever finally 🤩

  • @ranashalaby2613
    @ranashalaby2613 2 года назад

    Missed your videos! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge

  • @michalmojzykiewicz
    @michalmojzykiewicz 2 года назад

    I always learn something new from You Alex. Cool tutorial, thanks

  • @jonhickmanmusic
    @jonhickmanmusic 2 года назад +1

    your energy is so good ❤

  • @jonkrindz7934
    @jonkrindz7934 Год назад +3

    i really respect hybrid music creators.they have a lot of work to give us best sound to feel

  • @krishnashil3857
    @krishnashil3857 2 года назад +2

    Amazing bro - beautiful tips

  • @eflat_music
    @eflat_music 8 месяцев назад

    THANK YOU for listing all your libraries and software! So helpful! I might sign up for a lesson from you

  • @SilvermainMusic
    @SilvermainMusic 2 года назад

    Always appreciated Alex!

  • @kevinmkraft
    @kevinmkraft 7 месяцев назад

    This was great! Thanks for these tips!

  • @csati
    @csati Год назад

    That was one of my quickest subscribes... awesome!

  • @pablovivasmusic9345
    @pablovivasmusic9345 2 года назад

    Awesome! Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻

  • @jonathanstephensmusic
    @jonathanstephensmusic 2 года назад

    Brilliant! Thanks for sharing!

  • @music_creator_capable
    @music_creator_capable 2 года назад +1

    You are really good, Alex, I become better and better with your tutorials!

  • @yuukiiyuyu1107
    @yuukiiyuyu1107 Год назад

    I love how your projects are super elaborated and I love the effects, I'm actually not very convinced of what I'm doing but I'm determined to progress and I'm working on a battle theme of one of my character and I'm gonna change it everytime I notice that it's not good (for now I'm just remaking some of the musics that exist already without posting it to see if I notice all of the "layers" and if it sound almost the same I wooud be happy 🤡

  • @danielhipolitohernando4424
    @danielhipolitohernando4424 2 года назад

    Keep on with the videos, we learn a lot from you!

  • @AllanGildea
    @AllanGildea 2 года назад

    Thank you, Alex. Outstanding.

  • @orellronnebeck
    @orellronnebeck Год назад

    freaking love it, thanks for this brother

  • @ericvasquez161
    @ericvasquez161 2 года назад +5

    I’m a little late to the party finding your channel but man it has become one of my absolute favorite RUclips channels out there. Appreciate all the work you put into your music and the energy you bring in your videos. Thanks for taking the time to break it down. Your compositions are really epic!

  • @ileryon4019
    @ileryon4019 4 месяца назад +1

    just watched your full ads .. cool asf, glad u made it this far.!!!

  • @abuhafidz157
    @abuhafidz157 2 года назад

    Amazing tutorial.... Thanks Alex

  • @mimidzambo
    @mimidzambo Год назад

    It's so helpful, thank you!

  • @scottfoster3643
    @scottfoster3643 2 года назад

    Great explanation! Thank you!

  • @trashculture
    @trashculture Месяц назад

    That was really insightful and very fast :) Great lesson!

  • @Fercomusic
    @Fercomusic Год назад

    thats brilliant! thanks for your help!

  • @UncleButt
    @UncleButt 2 года назад +9

    Great video! I've been wondering how layering is done in orchestral music. All these extra layers require a lot of processing though. So far I haven't seen you do any processing in your videos. Is this something you'd consider showing in future videos? I'd be very interested in seeing your EQ, compression, saturation and stereo separation processes!

  • @WilPowerVideoLog
    @WilPowerVideoLog 2 года назад

    Thank you for helping people like me learn.

  • @hansdumbf7608
    @hansdumbf7608 2 года назад

    I like the way this man talks! It's like "yeah man! let me convince you" - awesome! :D I am totally hyped now!

  • @BeatsbyTakeItLow
    @BeatsbyTakeItLow 2 года назад +1

    It doesn’t have to be frequently, he uploaded so we blessed

  • @HamzaBorsali
    @HamzaBorsali 2 года назад

    It been a while happy to see your tutorial video

  • @7GabriEl7FM7
    @7GabriEl7FM7 Год назад

    That track is very uplifting as well. Keep up the good work 🙏🏼💯💯💯💯💯!

  • @orrinbynum5978
    @orrinbynum5978 Месяц назад

    Good morning Mr. Alex. I am so glad that I stumbled on to your video today. I was totally empress with your enthusiasm and passion on how you introduced some of your ideas about orchestration today. You made me subscribe to your channel today. I have no experience with writing for orchestration but, after seeing what you did with just a few chords made me want to explore it a little more. Thank you for your enthusiasm today and for sharing a little of your gift of ideas. I am a vocalist and former Choir Director/Musician working on my Bucket List. I am using Cubase 13 at the moment and learning how to use it better. I never thought that I could get some of what you did today in just 4 chords. You open up some new possibilities for me today. Thank you again for that. I wish you continued success with all of your future videos and musical endeavors and I also wish you continued success financially as well. I appreciate you waking up us beginners to new possibilities with learning more about orchestration. You have a wonderful gift. I am looking to hear more from you in the future. Have a wonderful day and weekend young Man. Thank you again.

  • @user-uy7zw4gk2e
    @user-uy7zw4gk2e 2 года назад

    thanks a lot,I love your tutorials!

  • @blaudiss
    @blaudiss 2 года назад

    very helpful - thank you!

  • @_what._.
    @_what._. 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you so much!! Great video. ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @urbansoundscarllamb
    @urbansoundscarllamb 4 месяца назад

    Love this Alex, thanks for bringing something new

  • @vaingald467
    @vaingald467 7 месяцев назад

    This might very well be the best music tutorial I've ever watched

  • @SJT
    @SJT 2 года назад

    Great breakdown ✅🔥🙏

  • @ChristianPauchet
    @ChristianPauchet 2 года назад

    Amazing my brother! Damn this sounds powerful.

  • @fatmeatm8878
    @fatmeatm8878 2 года назад

    thank you, very good video help me a lot in my current project, 👍

  • @JonMurray
    @JonMurray 10 месяцев назад

    This was awesome man. Such good advice. New subscriber ✌🏻

    • @JonMurray
      @JonMurray 10 месяцев назад

      Watching again, so funny as well man hahah!

  • @craigpaulson3503
    @craigpaulson3503 2 года назад +1

    Thanx. Without your lessons I'd be lost.

  • @chessmusictheory4644
    @chessmusictheory4644 2 года назад

    Nice breakdown of the crescendo.

  • @georgezorbas9036
    @georgezorbas9036 2 года назад

    well done for this video.. helpful..fast.. well explained .. to the point..super thanks

  • @AliTajvidi
    @AliTajvidi Месяц назад

    absolutely amazing!!!! Thank you so much brother!

  • @ShaeDistrict
    @ShaeDistrict Год назад

    I don't think I've ever seen a video with so much information in such a short time on RUclips

  • @darknessinc.5360
    @darknessinc.5360 Год назад

    I am used on composing 2000 videogame type tracks, Orchestral is a new genre i'd like to learn, thanks for this tutorial

  • @dwm1433
    @dwm1433 Год назад

    Excellent!

  • @so-sprach-zarathustra
    @so-sprach-zarathustra 2 года назад +8

    Hey Alex!
    I have a great video idea!
    It would be cool if you would pick some of the most famous composers and show us the plugins they use and if they have a hidden method

  • @prodsgbeatz
    @prodsgbeatz Год назад

    we've been waiting for new tutorials for almost a year now... come back to this channel :)

  • @celticdistortion
    @celticdistortion 2 года назад

    Love it man, couldn't avoid thinking of Shrek when you were talking of onions having ears. Awesome!
    Great video man.

  • @johnhumphreyuk
    @johnhumphreyuk 2 года назад

    Nice video, great track!

  • @Piter32199
    @Piter32199 2 года назад

    Man You are super teacher. Pro sounds! Thanks!

  • @bartoszulkowskitattoo
    @bartoszulkowskitattoo 2 года назад

    oh my god this is instantly my favourite You Tube channel!!!

  • @rizzbod
    @rizzbod Год назад

    his teaching is most amazing!

  • @Anders01
    @Anders01 2 года назад

    Nice! I will try using more layering and some orchestral sounds.

  • @misakianimated
    @misakianimated 8 месяцев назад

    yeaaaaaah... it just sunk in that I'm really not a Musician... you guys are really blessed, I can't even imagine doing anything this epic. I'm humbled

  • @ninjabuck2576
    @ninjabuck2576 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love how this sounds! It feels a bit like a big section in a drum corps show. With that in mind, I had a thought about the percussion. There is swell in the brass followed by a brief pause, and then a large hit. If you could add the sound of a rim shot from a line of marching snares on the 3rd beat (the beginning of the brief rest), it would create unparalleled tension, and make that orchestral hit even more pronounced!

  • @rik-keymusic160
    @rik-keymusic160 Месяц назад

    Dude this is absolutely insane!!! 🤯

  • @dadadrew
    @dadadrew 2 года назад

    Great stuff!

  • @ohvann4566
    @ohvann4566 Год назад +1

    Miss you Alex can't wait for your next video

  • @nefion5797
    @nefion5797 2 года назад

    Love this

  • @kabweprosper7194
    @kabweprosper7194 Год назад

    Wow learning a lot 🙏🙏

  • @Larrythebassman
    @Larrythebassman 2 года назад

    The maestro is in the house💥✨✨✨👌 thanks a lot buddy👍💫

  • @igorzontaz
    @igorzontaz 5 месяцев назад

    Wow!! Thank´s 4 this!! for brazil!

  • @E-MDX-MUSIC
    @E-MDX-MUSIC Год назад

    Great tutorials.

  • @solarspear27
    @solarspear27 5 месяцев назад

    This is just brutal!!

  • @nishanthp4882
    @nishanthp4882 Год назад

    Great tips 👍

  • @ndpndntvar
    @ndpndntvar Год назад

    bruh, super legit. I just started getting into fl, love your stuff

  • @VNT3K
    @VNT3K 2 года назад

    You back 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @kidzeus2433
    @kidzeus2433 2 года назад +2

    Man you have came a long way my friend... I remembered when you use to have a low quality mic (No offence) now look at you now, blooming as ever... Keep it up Alex!

  • @OrojinMusic
    @OrojinMusic 10 месяцев назад

    Good start to the video. I don't know who you are or what you know but you open with a passage of music like that? Now I want to learn from you lol

  • @abeahmed2581
    @abeahmed2581 9 месяцев назад

    I can feel it alex

  • @SimmiMusic
    @SimmiMusic Год назад

    wow so energetic! love it

  • @EwanSmithMusic
    @EwanSmithMusic 2 года назад +1

    Yo Alex hope you are well mate! I was wondering if you could make a video about your fl studio GUI scaling set up. I look at yours and you fit so much into the screen and I can't seem to get mine any smaller! Would be a huge help so I can layout my daw better

  • @medmel2160
    @medmel2160 Год назад

    hey, hope you will continue making videos!

  • @OttomanBeats
    @OttomanBeats Год назад

    these are so dope. How do you synch the pc audio, screen, and your voice, together?