Moths had an inline 4 I thought, the school I was at had a cutaway one. Anyway, how nice to see real vintage cars used in their original, NOW tatty, well worn condition, and appreciated so highly. Well done chaps! Keep at it! :)
Look up GN Thunderbug. Eventually you'll get to the Wikipedia article. "Nash and Godfrey hated cogs, Built a car with chains and dogs. And it worked, but would it if They had built it with a diff"
The Tiger moth is a 1930's design with a DH Gipsey engine (inline). The Salmon radial can't be earlier than 1917. Still it's a stonking nice car completely in keeping with the GN specials of the time.
Mark is such an inspiration!!! The first project I am working on originally was a Morgan /GN special....My plans right now are starting a RUclips channel and using the machine shop I have assembled to make parts for my Restomod projects. The first one is a 1928 Morgan/MG special 3 wheeler with 4 wheels. I am building a supercharged opposed twin engine from an experimental aircraft. I am casting an adapter out of aluminum to mate that engine to an MG 4 speed manual gearbox connected to an MG differential with juice brakes and beautiful wire wheels. It is an aircraft cloth stretched over a wooden frame over steel sprayed with plasticizer for durability. It will have a Brooklands style Boat-Tail and look exactly like a 20's airplane without a propeller or wings. The next project will be a Boat -Tail Pembleton style cycle car with a BMW R-100 turbocharged opposed twin also mated to an MG 4 speed manual gearbox ending in a 10 bolt limited slip differential and either ceconite covered or mild steel or aluminum painted dark sanguine red or British Racing Green. I am recovering from getting run over by an F350 on my 1957 Harley Panhead and I will be starting as soon as it is warm enough to work outside in the barn here in Pennsylvania. Hope to see you there ....I will be calling my channel Machines and Motors tentatively...
The death defying 1922 Thunderbug. Let us know in the comments which our our classic fearsome Edwardians cars has been your favourite so far? #gwoverdrive
Title is wrong. not moth engined or 42 litres. moths did not exist in 1908. and this engine is much more special than that .Does not reflect well on your organisation, your vids are fun but......I wish you would fix it
Yes, he says it is two cylinders from a Salmson 9 cyl radial. Apart from the misplaced decimal point (42. vs 4.2) the only issue is the "Tiger Moth" bit and I suspect someone either just got that wrong or used it as a generic term for biplane.
And he's wrong on all counts. There were no "Tiger Moths" in the 1920s and in the 1930s when they were built they had inline 4-cylinder engines. Its hard to imagine someone using a 1930s airplane name as a "generic term" for biplanes when biplanes had been around for quite a while by the time TIger Moths were built. And you'd certainly expect him to kjnow what he happened to have a couple of cylinders from. It also appears that the last known Salmson 9-cylinder radials (if Wikipedia having articles on them makes them "known") were built in 1917. Kind of old technology if your goal is a "Special" from the 1920s. Especially if you find a "standard G.N." transmission for it.
Chad Meyer he knows exactly what he's talking about, when he mentions tiger moth cylinders he is talking about an earlier idea he had for making the v twin. The video has been badly edited to cut that part out, and as usual the people at Goodwood mis titled the video as they often do.
The description is wrong. This engine isn't 42 litres its 4.2 and I don't think its from a Tiger Moth. Tiger Moths had inverted inline 4 engines called Gipsy Majors not radials and they were made in the 30s, not 1908. I enjoyed the video but I wish I knew more about this car. Is there an article on it?
I remember this one and another GN were in a copy of Custom Car about 10 years ago. Like others have said, it was Riley crankcases with the barrels and pistons from a Salmson. The other car in the article was a yellow and purple checked one with a Curtiss V8 (or 12?) IIRC.
Great car! I'm a bit confused though. The owner said it is a Tiger Moth engine and that it was a 9 Cylinder engine. The Tiger Moth(DH-83) was produced by the DeHaviland aircraft in England and Canada. It was powered by a Gypsy engine. Please help me clarify the engine. There was no 9 Cylinder engine in that automobile. Beautiful! Thanks!
This might be a daft question, but do you need insurance to drive it? If you do, then how much would it be? Does it need an MOT? And lastly, if you were to build one out of vintage parts, would it be Road legal nowadays, or would it have to be classified as a kit-car?
You would definitely need insurance and a registration. But as always get in touch with the relevant club (VSCC?) and find someone who's done it before. I'm not a VSCC member but loads of clubs have very active on line forums these days, where you'd likely find a quick answer.
You are perfectly right! The Tiger Moth airplane had its maiden flight on october 26 1931. This engine was built in 1908, so I guess this Tiger Moth was not an aircraft...
+Kneedragon1962 Tiger Moths had a gipsy major 6.1L inline four cylinder engine and in the description it says "1908 TIGER MOTH, 42. Litre, 4-speed chain drive...."
Um - whaaa....?? The Tiger Moth didn't have radial engine. Whatever those engine parts came from - it wasn't a Tiger Moth. I know this because (a) stepfather flew one, and (b) I helped refit a cylinder head on one once (about 40 years ago - doesn't time fly?) - it was an inverted in-line engine.
One day one real macho biker woulda land on Goodwood facilities and blow half the redaction shack. This here engine is neanmoins one helluva ultrasexy big twin, tasty, growling, kicking and phaenomenal racing one!! (English ain't my 1st. language, huh?)
Christopher Isac Of course it is! If you sit above wildly rotating chains protected by a thin sheet of aluminium you are hardly going to worry yourself over a container of fuel next to you!!
The joys of riding a motorcycle, in a car.
Wonderful!
That looks utterly terrifying to drive. I want one.
They look really appealing, but I worry about that transmission coming apart right below the seat. Thing is a death trap
Moths had an inline 4 I thought, the school I was at had a cutaway one. Anyway, how nice to see real vintage cars used in their original, NOW tatty, well worn condition, and appreciated so highly. Well done chaps! Keep at it! :)
He said that particular Moth had a Salmson radial, he took two cyl and did a custom crank.
Correct. Tiger Moths didn’t have radial engines
one headlight looks evil, so cool!
Mark, You are someone to admire! I wish that I would have been more aware when I was young.
A pair of snips, some pliers, a bit of wire and lets roll. This is what driving is all about.
Wonderfull car, thanks for sharing. Cheers from Fance
that 4.2 litre badge is from late 70's Holden cars of Australia, for the smaller 253 V8 they had.
Dirty. Loud. Nasty. Pure beauty
These look so cool and bet they are s0 fun to drive..
Look up GN Thunderbug.
Eventually you'll get to the Wikipedia article.
"Nash and Godfrey hated cogs,
Built a car with chains and dogs.
And it worked, but would it if
They had built it with a diff"
A ripping, cool kit!!
Perfect professional job! Thanks a lot!
The Tiger moth is a 1930's design with a DH Gipsey engine (inline). The Salmon radial can't be earlier than 1917. Still it's a stonking nice car completely in keeping with the GN specials of the time.
Mark is such an inspiration!!! The first project I am working on originally was a Morgan /GN special....My plans right now are starting a RUclips channel and using the machine shop I have assembled to make parts for my Restomod projects. The first one is a 1928 Morgan/MG special 3 wheeler with 4 wheels. I am building a supercharged opposed twin engine from an experimental aircraft. I am casting an adapter out of aluminum to mate that engine to an MG 4 speed manual gearbox connected to an MG differential with juice brakes and beautiful wire wheels. It is an aircraft cloth stretched over a wooden frame over steel sprayed with plasticizer for durability. It will have a Brooklands style Boat-Tail and look exactly like a 20's airplane without a propeller or wings. The next project will be a Boat -Tail Pembleton style cycle car with a BMW R-100 turbocharged opposed twin also mated to an MG 4 speed manual gearbox ending in a 10 bolt limited slip differential and either ceconite covered or mild steel or aluminum painted dark sanguine red or British Racing Green. I am recovering from getting run over by an F350 on my 1957 Harley Panhead and I will be starting as soon as it is warm enough to work outside in the barn here in Pennsylvania. Hope to see you there ....I will be calling my channel Machines and Motors tentatively...
Cool and cool can Be, from Hot Rod Orange County California..
these are the coolest pair of guys in the elderly home
The death defying 1922 Thunderbug. Let us know in the comments which our our classic fearsome Edwardians cars has been your favourite so far? #gwoverdrive
Aero engined Amilcar! Hispano Suiza power!
Title is wrong. not moth engined or 42 litres. moths did not exist in 1908. and this engine is much more special than that .Does not reflect well on your organisation,
your vids are fun but......I wish you would fix it
we need more young lad to takr this kind of cars
Watch out for that Fokker behind you ! Wicked car.
My understanding was the engine was a 1908 Riley V Twin crankcase with Salmson Cylinders (from a radial) on it (4.2l).
Yes, he says it is two cylinders from a Salmson 9 cyl radial. Apart from the misplaced decimal point (42. vs 4.2) the only issue is the "Tiger Moth" bit and I suspect someone either just got that wrong or used it as a generic term for biplane.
And he's wrong on all counts. There were no "Tiger Moths" in the 1920s and in the 1930s when they were built they had inline 4-cylinder engines. Its hard to imagine someone using a 1930s airplane name as a "generic term" for biplanes when biplanes had been around for quite a while by the time TIger Moths were built. And you'd certainly expect him to kjnow what he happened to have a couple of cylinders from. It also appears that the last known Salmson 9-cylinder radials (if Wikipedia having articles on them makes them "known") were built in 1917. Kind of old technology if your goal is a "Special" from the 1920s. Especially if you find a "standard G.N." transmission for it.
Chad Meyer he knows exactly what he's talking about, when he mentions tiger moth cylinders he is talking about an earlier idea he had for making the v twin. The video has been badly edited to cut that part out, and as usual the people at Goodwood mis titled the video as they often do.
Mine too.
Looks awesome
Super video thanks
The description is wrong. This engine isn't 42 litres its 4.2 and I don't think its from a Tiger Moth. Tiger Moths had inverted inline 4 engines called Gipsy Majors not radials and they were made in the 30s, not 1908.
I enjoyed the video but I wish I knew more about this car. Is there an article on it?
I remember this one and another GN were in a copy of Custom Car about 10 years ago. Like others have said, it was Riley crankcases with the barrels and pistons from a Salmson. The other car in the article was a yellow and purple checked one with a Curtiss V8 (or 12?) IIRC.
Same here. That engine is using two cylinders off of what might have been a radial? There needs to be a better description.
what an extraordinary bloke
you could say that
I saw one for the first time today at Cadwell
0:17 Wait for meeee...!
My understanding is that the engine has an Edwardian Riley V twin crankcase with Anzani Barrels.
Amazing!
Great car! I'm a bit confused though. The owner said it is a Tiger Moth engine and that it was a 9 Cylinder engine. The Tiger Moth(DH-83) was produced by the DeHaviland aircraft in England and Canada. It was powered by a Gypsy engine. Please help me clarify the engine. There was no 9 Cylinder engine in that automobile. Beautiful! Thanks!
Riley V-Twin crankcase, 2 out of 9 Salmson radial engine barrels and valve gear. Liberty 27 litre V12 con rods, custom Crank…..about it really
Little known fact that the DH 82 Tiger Moth was also manufactured by DH New Zealand.
Such amazing 😱😱 engienes
2:20 it seems that the age of fans correlates with the age of the car...
Mark Walker.....Walkers Crisps...
i love the brits.
i really do
Tigermoth first flight was 1931, the engine was the Gipsy Major, an inverted inline 4 cylinder. Is this an information roadwreck?
Didnt know Farage did classic specials 😂!
Possible a Bristol Jupiter engine top end on a earlier V twin crankcase?
I wonder what tiger moth is being referred to here. The aircraft had an inverted inline four.
The BS Tiger Moth
Get the description even close and I might watch the rest...
The owner did say I think,you could build a classic.A new/old motor carraige with some real hearataige. ..
Whoever titled this video gets a prize for cramming the most errors in one sentence.He ought to get the sack.
And a bag to put it in!
It doesn´t get more steam punk than that.
Click bait, apparently? No giant engine in a GN. Just a nice GN and narrator.
Pinch a 4.2 litre badge off a Holden ?
This might be a daft question, but do you need insurance to drive it? If you do, then how much would it be? Does it need an MOT? And lastly, if you were to build one out of vintage parts, would it be Road legal nowadays, or would it have to be classified as a kit-car?
If the chassis/VIN code is over 40 then a car doesn't require an MOT. Anyway the UK has always allowed shed built or small volume cars some leeway.
MOT rules on cars like that are complex. Some do need an MOT, I've no idea what these cars need though.
You would definitely need insurance and a registration. But as always get in touch with the relevant club (VSCC?) and find someone who's done it before. I'm not a VSCC member but loads of clubs have very active on line forums these days, where you'd likely find a quick answer.
4.2 Holden badge,, they were V8!
Binkys cars faster than mine, how much does that 2nd headlight weight ?
The radiator mascot is a ‘Snap dragon’ not a thunder bug. See Norwich Castle Museum Snap
Can you tell me about that country draught?
That's not a tiger moth engine.. A tiger moth has a inline four, with the crank on top. Not a V twin.
You are perfectly right! The Tiger Moth airplane had its maiden flight on october 26 1931. This engine was built in 1908, so I guess this Tiger Moth was not an aircraft...
what is abouth this engine?
tiger mouth is a lined engined plane...
Nice. But a Tiger Moth with a radial engine? Where? When?
Night driving glasses are a good thing nowadays.. but you're just using them to look cool
what engine bits did you use then? the tiger moth had a gipsy major and then you said 9 cylinder radial?
+Oscar Thorpe Yes, the Radial reference threw me too. Moths had an inline straight 6, with the crank at the top... they were not radials...
+Kneedragon1962 Tiger Moths had a gipsy major 6.1L inline four cylinder engine and in the description it says "1908 TIGER MOTH, 42. Litre, 4-speed chain drive...."
Oscar Thorpe Sorry, four cylinder. I am getting as old as the subject...
Hi, where is this beautiful country?.
I think it is some island near Europe.
@@rickrandom6734 times have changed, it used to be near Europe.
The tiger moth was fitted with a four cylinder in line engine NEVER a radial!
Vintage car or a Rat Rod?
Um - whaaa....?? The Tiger Moth didn't have radial engine. Whatever those engine parts came from - it wasn't a Tiger Moth. I know this because (a) stepfather flew one, and (b) I helped refit a cylinder head on one once (about 40 years ago - doesn't time fly?) - it was an inverted in-line engine.
I like GN JAP better but this one’s sweet too!!
One day one real macho biker woulda land on Goodwood facilities and blow half the redaction shack. This here engine is neanmoins one helluva ultrasexy big twin, tasty, growling, kicking and phaenomenal racing one!!
(English ain't my 1st. language, huh?)
Get it right for Gawd's sake ! That is not the engine out of a Tiger Moth !
That's an awesome vehicle but I hope for your sake that's not a gas container siting next to you!
Christopher Isac
Of course it is! If you sit above wildly rotating chains protected by a thin sheet of aluminium you are hardly going to worry yourself over a container of fuel next to you!!
No, it’s a petrol can (so he’s fine)
I know what you mean.
So *that's* what a mid-life crisis looks like.
"that's what a mid-life crisis looks like" if you're a filthy rich public-school wallah.............
That's not a crisis .... it's elemental fun motoring.
bonjour super passion se voir bientot sur les rallyes viens visite ma passion youtub claude leymarie bonne visite et bonnne annee 2018
This guy knows F-all about aeroplane engines...