@@JHFMW Have you not heard about the great reset? The UN agenda for sustainable development? sdgs.un.org/2030agenda Have you heard Klaus Schwabe? You will own nothing and be happy? Universities across the developed world at least have research groups dedicated to bringing this about. Maybe you don't live in the developed world and you think it can only be up for you.
If I caught that slide I would have immediately pulled the car over and been like " who has a spare pair of underpants?" After I stopped trembling. Brundle just keeps talking like it never happened.
The McLaren F1 is still far and away my all-time favourite hypercar. A car built to be the ultimate road car and it certainly succeeded. Never before had a car been built with such a pure ideal, with every component designed and manufactured to be as light as possible, making a truly incredible road car that also proved itself around racetracks. Gordon Murray's latest looks to be a true successor to the F1 but it'll be this car that will still remain my number one.
4:15 Steel brakes. Carbon/carbon was in F1 for a while, road applicable carbon ceramic tech was in its infancy. Murray mentioned those and said that they weren't really ready for a nice road experience when the F1 was built. Again, his point was to build the best road car in the world then, not the best racing car. It just happened it was so damn good it made a great racing car with only a few modifications. The Enzo is 10 years newer and by then the carbon ceramic brakes were much further developed, indeed the Enzo was the first road car to use them.
I think McLaren probably had a ceramic brake upgrade pack at some point, with this car being retrofitted (note there's none of the usual squealing the F1's steel brakes are renowned for). Still, the whole system wasn't designed for ceramics, so it's no surprise they're not up to par with a much newer car that has a braking system designed with ceramic discs in mind.
@@BlatentlyFakeName Early carbon brakes had narrow and high temperature operating windows, plus they were enormously expensive which is why they were rare and only $500k exotica. Advances in the materials mean they are now slightly more common and usable on the road with cold stops, and somewhat cheaper than 20 years ago. Everything is relative though as they are still many times more costly than steel. Several sub $100k cars use them or have them as options, for example various Porsche, BMW and Mercedes models have offered them as options for several years now. They can put used buyers off although they typically last quite a long time. Money is the primary reason they get replaced. Many people convert back to steel when it is time for maybe 1/4th the cost.
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@Jorn Navarre Each to their own. Personally I prefer Brundle's no-frills style and his surgical analysis. He packs more directly relevant information into 5 minutes than most reviewers would in an hour.
It's silver in color. The interior is black. It's got a steering wheel and three pedals. One shifter to the left. It's got three seats that fit three human beings. An engine and what some presume a transmission of sorts. I find the wipers move water away from my field of view. Oil helps lubricate rotating masses of aluminium. Gasoline lights on fire via plugs of the sparking variety to produce a combustion that propels it forward.
Annoyingly, I don't think we'll see anyone driving these anymore. Even Gordon Murray who designed this car, has sold his own one because they are worth so much money now that no one can insure it and afford to keep it on the road
This F1 ended up at the Fanschoek Motor Museum, Cape Town, South Africa. After a visit I couldn't shake the feeling I had seen that plate before, guess this review def. made an impression all those years ago.
You have to keep in mind these cars take around 200-300k a year in maintenance. So if you bought one of the earliest ones it still owes you around 10M. Still a bargain but give me that money and I can make more money in 30 years then that car is worth now.
Tri post just makes this the coolest car ever. Can we get a modern version? Not that I could actually buy one, I’d just like to know they were still out there.
Jay Leno’s takes his out at least once a month on the street. But I think he is one the few. Then again he is a real petrolhead and has a car to drive it not to own it as an investment
Am I crazy for Not loving that engine sound ? The high pitched V12's like the Zonda F, LP640, and the new supercar Cosworths are waay more exciting for me.
Can't understand why Murray put the gear change on the right hand side..must take some getting used to...as most of us change gear with the left hand...
If you pulled up at the side of the road in the UK, and it is a British car, you can get out the left side of the car, onto the pavement and not into the road. With the stick on the right you don’t have to climb over it. Maybe that’s why.
Now the most valuable modern classic car you can buy: IF you are a billionaire, and IF one hits the market... commanding prices in the £10 million + range. Think it has to be that analogue hypercar formula, and Gordan Murray designed perfection. I never lusted after a car as much as this one as a young guy, not even did I lust after the 288GTO, Lambo Countach or Testarossa on my bedroom wall posters like I did this one
I think he might not be the best film clip car ever but have you looked at his racing credentials? In an F1 man-to-man thing he kicked Senna’s arse. Then just won a lazy few Le Mans 24hrs. No. You’re right, clearly he is clueless...
Um? Quick question if I may... If they are the greatest car of ALL time as you say, why do they trade at auction for about 15-20% of the price of a Ferrari 250 GTO? There’s an answer in there but if selling 4 McLaren F1’s still can’t get into the market for 1964 Ferrari then you need a car broker (or some grey matter)...
@@davidmccartney1102 Gotta also understand that there were only 36 250 GTOS built compared to the F1s 106 output. The GTO also has 30+ years of appreciation behind it oppose to the F1.
This is before every man and there dog decided they could make hyper cars and charge 3 mil for them. And this still blows most of them out the water in on price and performance
The main thing that is on the plus side of the F1 is the racing heritage and the fact that the made 12 times as much Carrera’s. The lfa I never cared to much about, but that’s mostly of the design of the car, it would not mind having one but it’s not in my top 10 If you look at it on the overall (money set aside) I would choose the F1, but damn that noise coming out of that V10.......pure porn
@@qasimmir7117 no its not. Is it the best car to haul a trailer? Is it the best 7 seater? Is it the best daily driver? Is it the best reliable car? Is it the best off roader? There is no such thing as the best car. Yeah it is probably the best car in the category it’s designed to do what it is suppose to do with the technology of that era. Nowadays a premium 911 would smoke it on most tracks. Does that matter? Oh hell no!
yes the T.50. It's newer but not better IMHO. F1 remains the ultimate driver's car (maybe not better than the T.50 but no-one's going to be driving them at the limit to find out. Even Gordon Murray said he only drove his up to 225mph...)
IMAGINE IT IS OSCAR NIGHT NOW NETFLIX RULES EVERYTHING. Horner, Hamilton and Brundle are the nominees. Hamilton wins because he had to hide his disgust for the injustice whilst the other two had to hide their joy for the injustice. Horner and Brundle are the guys, who amongst other things say Max deserved to win last year's championship because Max won 10 races and Lewis only 8. Well, just to enlighten them, if it was not for the shenanigans of the final race, they would have both won 9 races. I always thought the championship was decided on points and by my reckoning, if it wasn't for the shenanigans, Hamilton would have had most points. Just saying.
Great car, but what were they thinking with the styling of those rear lights? They look shit. The rest of the car has very sharp styling, but the rear looks like a passenger car from the 1990's.
Gordon Murray has said they are off the shelf items for a truck. Ferrari f40 uses similar rear lights. Lights are incredibly expensive to develop with compliance for all markets. On a limited run car with limited budget.. they do just fine.
@@TroyHR123 along with other off the shelf bits. I believe lots of the switch gear is BMW and the front indicators and side lights were Lotus. As you say some of these items can be pricey to develop, especially for such low production numbers. I do think it funny though, how much it costs to develop the overall car so how much more would some lenses cost to make?
@@sparky4878 true. I was watching a chris harris clip where he was looking at porsche gt products with the gt program guy, he remarked it cost a relatively huge amount to develop unique side lights for the 997.2 gt3 (I think) which were universally compliant with all sales markets. Thats where the development cost lies on parts barely anyone will ever appreciate.
"Aston Martin also looks very outdated" ................... Something that looks good, always looks good. Only idiots look for "fashionable cars". Stick to clothing.
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6.1 litre, not 6 litre........Get it right.
Gordon Murray was decades ahead of the rest with this car, still my all time favorite, epic
Mine too!
0:11 “...at £640k it’s also the most expensive” mental to think that another decade and a half later and it’s worth £30m....
Wait another 20 years .
@@mesropmadzharyan6727 You think the world is going to carry on as it has for the next 20 years?
@@earthstick yea why not ?.
@@earthstick in what wat do you mean ?
@@JHFMW Have you not heard about the great reset? The UN agenda for sustainable development? sdgs.un.org/2030agenda
Have you heard Klaus Schwabe? You will own nothing and be happy? Universities across the developed world at least have research groups dedicated to bringing this about. Maybe you don't live in the developed world and you think it can only be up for you.
If I caught that slide I would have immediately pulled the car over and been like " who has a spare pair of underpants?" After I stopped trembling. Brundle just keeps talking like it never happened.
That's the difference between an F1 driver and mortals.
The McLaren F1 is still far and away my all-time favourite hypercar. A car built to be the ultimate road car and it certainly succeeded. Never before had a car been built with such a pure ideal, with every component designed and manufactured to be as light as possible, making a truly incredible road car that also proved itself around racetracks. Gordon Murray's latest looks to be a true successor to the F1 but it'll be this car that will still remain my number one.
Well said sir.
1:55 I almost shit myself, I’m sure Martin went and changed his diapers after that 😂
if he's made a face like that i'm pretty sure the rest of us mortals would be off big time
Dude's spent his life driving le mans prototypes and f1 cars, that slide is nothing to him
4:15 Steel brakes. Carbon/carbon was in F1 for a while, road applicable carbon ceramic tech was in its infancy. Murray mentioned those and said that they weren't really ready for a nice road experience when the F1 was built. Again, his point was to build the best road car in the world then, not the best racing car. It just happened it was so damn good it made a great racing car with only a few modifications. The Enzo is 10 years newer and by then the carbon ceramic brakes were much further developed, indeed the Enzo was the first road car to use them.
I think his comparison to the Enzo brakes was nonsense for the very reasons you mention
The 2000 Mercedes-Benz CL 55 AMG F1 Edition was the first I believe. Also the 996 911 GT2 had carbon ceramics in 2001, both predating the Enzo.
I think McLaren probably had a ceramic brake upgrade pack at some point, with this car being retrofitted (note there's none of the usual squealing the F1's steel brakes are renowned for). Still, the whole system wasn't designed for ceramics, so it's no surprise they're not up to par with a much newer car that has a braking system designed with ceramic discs in mind.
They aren't the best for road use as you can't keep them hot enough. A lot of people take them off supercars and fit steels.
@@BlatentlyFakeName Early carbon brakes had narrow and high temperature operating windows, plus they were enormously expensive which is why they were rare and only $500k exotica. Advances in the materials mean they are now slightly more common and usable on the road with cold stops, and somewhat cheaper than 20 years ago. Everything is relative though as they are still many times more costly than steel. Several sub $100k cars use them or have them as options, for example various Porsche, BMW and Mercedes models have offered them as options for several years now. They can put used buyers off although they typically last quite a long time. Money is the primary reason they get replaced. Many people convert back to steel when it is time for maybe 1/4th the cost.
This dude's the only person who honestly reviews these cars. Who in the world would dare to say they don't like the F1's brakes? lol
Journalist: the car is twitchy
F1 driver: the car is planted
To be fair I think the GTR was more manageable due to the wing but still neither were designed for an average road user 😅
@@iplayeddsharpminor Tiff Needell did try to argue Jeremy Clarkson on that. For XP4 prototype he tested at goodwood
I was looking for this perfect timing
Editing and delivering of emotions were far better back then in car programs I think
1:54....CRAP! this isn't my car!
I think painted jet black gives it more of a mystery and stature. Remember, Black is a power color.
Chasis 39 brought me here tonight, a cool read indeed.
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I adore this car. Nothing has or will ever come close to the F1’s pedigree. What a machine. Thank you Sir Murray.
A truly-timeless classic that will still look incredible in another 50 years. What a machine!
1:54 is epic: Brundle is cool as the proverbial cucumber. What a car!
Amazing how he kept on like it was nothing.
@@terryloweh consummate pro / ex-F1 driver
That's how Rowan Atkinson wrecked his car.
This is the best F1 review out there.
@Jorn Navarre Each to their own. Personally I prefer Brundle's no-frills style and his surgical analysis. He packs more directly relevant information into 5 minutes than most reviewers would in an hour.
Yep Martin takes it by far, well done!!
It's silver in color. The interior is black. It's got a steering wheel and three pedals. One shifter to the left. It's got three seats that fit three human beings. An engine and what some presume a transmission of sorts. I find the wipers move water away from my field of view. Oil helps lubricate rotating masses of aluminium. Gasoline lights on fire via plugs of the sparking variety to produce a combustion that propels it forward.
nah - nothing about the engine, power delivery, sound, etc...completely misses out any of the visceral thrill of the V12.
@@alfamonk yes. Tiff Needel is the GOAT! He drives the pants off of it and shares his excitement. Can't wait to see him test the T.50s...
This car is now at a motor museum in Franschoek in South Africa....fortunate to see this exact car in person
Me too! Spent hours looking at it!
a journalist will never be seen driving one of these on a race track again.
Annoyingly, I don't think we'll see anyone driving these anymore. Even Gordon Murray who designed this car, has sold his own one because they are worth so much money now that no one can insure it and afford to keep it on the road
This car is the definition of getting better with age.
£640,000 back in 2003 now today it's worth over £30million
This F1 ended up at the Fanschoek Motor Museum, Cape Town, South Africa. After a visit I couldn't shake the feeling I had seen that plate before, guess this review def. made an impression all those years ago.
The OG hypercar. It’s still the best looking hypercar out there.
Love the HDK on this.
Whatever sheep 🐑
This is the first review I’ve seen of anyone credible criticising the McLaren F1. Looking forward to Martin Brundle driving the GMA T.50.
640K for an HDF... now an absolutely bargain
its amazing. in 2004 the most expensive car was £640k and there was just 75 of them. Now there must be well over 20,000 cars worth over £640k.
You have to keep in mind these cars take around 200-300k a year in maintenance. So if you bought one of the earliest ones it still owes you around 10M. Still a bargain but give me that money and I can make more money in 30 years then that car is worth now.
Tri post just makes this the coolest car ever.
Can we get a modern version?
Not that I could actually buy one, I’d just like to know they were still out there.
Ref: GMA T.50
Thx for uploading
Sadly now so expensive we'll not really see one out in the road.
Jay Leno’s takes his out at least once a month on the street. But I think he is one the few. Then again he is a real petrolhead and has a car to drive it not to own it as an investment
Roan Atkinson used to and crashed it at least a couple of times lol. I think he still managed to sell it for about 20 million.
Am I crazy for Not loving that engine sound ?
The high pitched V12's like the Zonda F, LP640, and the new supercar Cosworths are waay more exciting for me.
yes you are crazy...sorry to break it to you
Not sure any cars from 1993 would have brakes that measured up to the high-performance brakes of today though.
2022...its still the DADDY
still my favourite car of all time. I can't afford a model one let alone the real thing
1:55 insurance companies were like. Whew.
Hmmm, this is not the standard F1 is it?
Can't understand why Murray put the gear change on the right hand side..must take some getting used to...as most of us change gear with the left hand...
“most of us” the majority of the world uses left hand drive i believe
If you pulled up at the side of the road in the UK, and it is a British car, you can get out the left side of the car, onto the pavement and not into the road. With the stick on the right you don’t have to climb over it. Maybe that’s why.
McLaren, you may want to valet that drivers seat
BMW has still not worked out the valve guide problems on their motors. Also.. Has Mclaren fixed their transmission problems yet? Just asking.
Since there were only 106 cars made, you may be waiting a while for a response!
@@xr500t and I don’t think the 106 examples go upwards of 2000miles a year all together
He just gave an F1 LM a 3 star rating on Yelp...
Now the most valuable modern classic car you can buy: IF you are a billionaire, and IF one hits the market... commanding prices in the £10 million + range. Think it has to be that analogue hypercar formula, and Gordan Murray designed perfection. I never lusted after a car as much as this one as a young guy, not even did I lust after the 288GTO, Lambo Countach or Testarossa on my bedroom wall posters like I did this one
Idk why I kept on thinking that Martin brindle can drive pretty good for a commentator.
Doesn’t he realise he’s driving the greatest car of all time
He’s also a former F1 and Group C driver. So he’s driven machinery that’s far superior.
I think he might not be the best film clip car ever but have you looked at his racing credentials? In an F1 man-to-man thing he kicked Senna’s arse. Then just won a lazy few Le Mans 24hrs. No. You’re right, clearly he is clueless...
Um? Quick question if I may... If they are the greatest car of ALL time as you say, why do they trade at auction for about 15-20% of the price of a Ferrari 250 GTO? There’s an answer in there but if selling 4 McLaren F1’s still can’t get into the market for 1964 Ferrari then you need a car broker (or some grey matter)...
@@davidmccartney1102 Gotta also understand that there were only 36 250 GTOS built compared to the F1s 106 output. The GTO also has 30+ years of appreciation behind it oppose to the F1.
640 000 pounds the most expensive car?
Times have changed.
that was the 1990s, before central banks flooded the world with cheap money
This is before every man and there dog decided they could make hyper cars and charge 3 mil for them. And this still blows most of them out the water in on price and performance
Its the best manual aspirared car ever made...period
Thats quitte a statement considering there is also something called the Carrera GT
@@Mark-gl3rj is great as well the carrera gt as for me the best engine sound ever ex aequo with Lexus LFA
The main thing that is on the plus side of the F1 is the racing heritage and the fact that the made 12 times as much Carrera’s. The lfa I never cared to much about, but that’s mostly of the design of the car, it would not mind having one but it’s not in my top 10
If you look at it on the overall (money set aside) I would choose the F1, but damn that noise coming out of that V10.......pure porn
No. It is the best car ever made.
@@qasimmir7117 no its not. Is it the best car to haul a trailer? Is it the best 7 seater? Is it the best daily driver? Is it the best reliable car? Is it the best off roader?
There is no such thing as the best car. Yeah it is probably the best car in the category it’s designed to do what it is suppose to do with the technology of that era. Nowadays a premium 911 would smoke it on most tracks. Does that matter? Oh hell no!
FANTASTİC......
THE GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I would do to get to drive a McLaren F1 enthusiastically like that.......
.... I'm sure even the owners feel the same. :P
Only £653,000 in 2003, why didn’t I buy a dozen?
Unfortunately as I go to Daytona MK karting a lot
That voice was on the safety video that I must have watched around 40 times
Aggggghhhhhhhhh
1:53 million dollar look
Hasn't the designer just finished a newer and vastly better one ...
yes the T.50. It's newer but not better IMHO. F1 remains the ultimate driver's car (maybe not better than the T.50 but no-one's going to be driving them at the limit to find out. Even Gordon Murray said he only drove his up to 225mph...)
@amarjit singh there aren't many race tracks were you can Vmax a 240mph car. Indy I suppose. Anyway it doesn't happen - Murray himself said so.
T 50 looks awfull compared to this. For me the F1 is the P1 big brother. T50 is the ugly but very clever sister lol
Bam Bam 444
The P1 has nothing to do with the F1. It is not the true successor, T.50 is.
@@qasimmir7117 Correct !
640 000 £...and today..
x25++
That was a bargain.
Good enough for Mr Bean...good enough for me !
good enough for him to crash so is for us 😂
IMAGINE IT IS OSCAR NIGHT NOW NETFLIX RULES EVERYTHING. Horner, Hamilton and Brundle are the nominees. Hamilton wins because he had to hide his disgust for the injustice whilst the other two had to hide their joy for the injustice. Horner and Brundle are the guys, who amongst other things say Max deserved to win last year's championship because Max won 10 races and Lewis only 8. Well, just to enlighten them, if it was not for the shenanigans of the final race, they would have both won 9 races. I always thought the championship was decided on points and by my reckoning, if it wasn't for the shenanigans, Hamilton would have had most points. Just saying.
Interesting
imagine 1:53 happening today omg
That car is pure sex in silver. Amazing.
He sounds very robot like.🤖
Cool
Handsome.
£640k ... I’ll buy it... they’re selling for a few million.
Get me one for a few million! There upwards of 15+ million
same car that ended up in a ditch in new zealand?
😍
Great car, but what were they thinking with the styling of those rear lights? They look shit. The rest of the car has very sharp styling, but the rear looks like a passenger car from the 1990's.
Gordon Murray has said they are off the shelf items for a truck. Ferrari f40 uses similar rear lights. Lights are incredibly expensive to develop with compliance for all markets. On a limited run car with limited budget.. they do just fine.
@@TroyHR123 along with other off the shelf bits. I believe lots of the switch gear is BMW and the front indicators and side lights were Lotus.
As you say some of these items can be pricey to develop, especially for such low production numbers. I do think it funny though, how much it costs to develop the overall car so how much more would some lenses cost to make?
@@sparky4878 true. I was watching a chris harris clip where he was looking at porsche gt products with the gt program guy, he remarked it cost a relatively huge amount to develop unique side lights for the 997.2 gt3 (I think) which were universally compliant with all sales markets. Thats where the development cost lies on parts barely anyone will ever appreciate.
Rear lights were from a bus.
One of the greatest cars with one of the most un charismatic presenters, anyone but Mr Brundle.
Good luck finding one under 10 million pounds.
need for speed 2 SP
It wouldn't last a week here in Birmingham.....
@amarjit singh
Not really, it would either be stolen or broken into
McDonald's F1
Yes. That's a bullshit comment.
He wanted a reaction.
Wth I didn't even remember commenting this lol
There's about as much charisma as there's forced induction here.
Most monotone voice ever.
Looks are not good
@amarjit singh yea
Ferrari 488 pista looks best
@amarjit singh bro Aston Martin also looks very outdated
Ferrari roma has lots of grill design
Ferrari 488 pista looks bombshell 🔥🔥
"Aston Martin also looks very outdated" ................... Something that looks good, always looks good. Only idiots look for "fashionable cars". Stick to clothing.