Devin Haney on the Harsh Reality of Fighter Pay in Boxing

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  • @smynamejon
    @smynamejon Год назад +225

    Me yelling “threshold” during his example….😭😭😭

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes Год назад +5

      I would’ve made him edit that out. This isn’t live

    • @_gamepoint_
      @_gamepoint_ Год назад +7

      I was thinking "glass ceiling"

    • @noelnoni
      @noelnoni Год назад +7

      He tried to say “barrier”

    • @samuelboadu160
      @samuelboadu160 Год назад

      Ceiling

    • @rafamadrigal12
      @rafamadrigal12 Год назад +8

      Shame on Bradley trash hosting for not filling in the blank

  • @akilade0824
    @akilade0824 Год назад +216

    Isaac Cruz is a perfect example. Just by seeming to give Tank a hard time, he's built a great name for himself. Now he's in contention to be fighting Tank again, or any of the other top guys.

    • @luigianolind8978
      @luigianolind8978 Год назад +11

      Rolly is the better example he got KO, How you get KO in your first elite fight now your getting a title shot on the very next fight 😆 some people thought he was really pressure w/ tank that's why he's a man in demand 🫴 a man that everybody wanna pay to see 💯

    • @BdeJJG
      @BdeJJG Год назад +3

      Cruz I’d a 3rd generation fighter so no matter what he was going to make more money

    • @manuelvega4313
      @manuelvega4313 Год назад +1

      ​​@@luigianolind8978Cruz is the better example cuz it legit happened exactly how Devin explained, but Rolly is the best example of why you need to TALK, the people gotta remember you good or bad so at least they know who you are when you fight again, him gettin a title shot off a ko loss is insane though.

    • @jackmichie5304
      @jackmichie5304 Год назад

      Ducked shakur lol

    • @akilade0824
      @akilade0824 Год назад +1

      @@jackmichie5304 Yep, but just based off that fight with Tank. His name is being mentioned as a top fight option for a top tier guy like Shakur.
      That would be an anticipated big fight. That wouldn't be a big fight if Cruz never fought Tank.

  • @handfloboxingreview1673
    @handfloboxingreview1673 Год назад +197

    he only scratched the surface. Even the fighters that get the bag only walk away with 30percents when it's all done. They have to pay the trainer, their manager, and the IRS. All that adds up to the majority of the earnings.

    • @teefrmdad196
      @teefrmdad196 Год назад +10

      Not if you Floyd he don’t pay taxes according to him 😂😂

    • @asemahleduze4916
      @asemahleduze4916 Год назад +24

      @@teefrmdad196 he has registered businesses in Dubai so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't really pay a lot of taxes.

    • @mogulme6190
      @mogulme6190 Год назад

      @@teefrmdad196 he might as well do what the rich white people do.

    • @fightsportspace7327
      @fightsportspace7327 Год назад +10

      This isn’t really relevant because it applies to all sports. NBA players have to pay their agents and the IRS as well

    • @musak.4068
      @musak.4068 Год назад +5

      That's nonsense.
      1. Everyone in America making legal money pays these things.
      2. Fighters keep more than 30%. The standard is 10% corner, 15-20% manager, 20-30% promoter. Lower tier fighters get reductions on those/outright skip those/just get paid flat fees. Big name fighters get the best deals on those. PBC fighters do NOT have a promoter at all so they pocket promoter fee.
      3. And taxes are paid AFTER all other expenses so it wouldn't be 37% of $6m. It would be 37% of ~4.2m

  • @Dakingalbert2
    @Dakingalbert2 Год назад +101

    Issac pitbull cruz and shawn porter are perfect examples i seen the porter vs brook title fight way back and pushed both ofnthem into stardom and cruz vs tank for cruz

    • @Lena_MVA
      @Lena_MVA Год назад +3

      Actually, when Porter beat Alexander & Malignaggi is when he became a household name to casuals. Paulie made a point of telling everybody how good he thought Shawn was.

    • @Getoutyourfeelingsandactlikeam
      @Getoutyourfeelingsandactlikeam Год назад

      Cruz is hot garbage, c level fighter nothing great, Tank, Floyd, Calvin cherry picking slow, flatfeet, Hispanic tomato cans.

    • @2gunzup07
      @2gunzup07 Год назад +3

      Issac isn't a star

    • @funkyluvit
      @funkyluvit Год назад +7

      @@2gunzup07 I think that’s what he’s saying. Not a star but well-known enough to make decent money when he fights

    • @RawliglatX
      @RawliglatX Год назад

      Not sure what you mean, but Porter was as much a star as anybody. Not someone that barely cracked the ceiling of fame.
      He could make stars as well in the sense that giving him a good fight could also make you a star, not just someone for stars to punch down.

  • @luisluna6769
    @luisluna6769 Год назад +224

    Gabriel Rosado is one of those few fighters who loses a lot but his name is popular within the sport of Boxing.

    • @Great_PatBingsoo
      @Great_PatBingsoo Год назад +14

      I mean he’s basically paid to be a punching bag with a puncher’s chance.

    • @Unknown.-.-.
      @Unknown.-.-. Год назад +26

      Same for Nate Diaz in UFC

    • @thebest12700
      @thebest12700 Год назад +2

      yep and used it to land acting and other opportunites to make money.

    • @tha_MVPLAYA
      @tha_MVPLAYA Год назад +5

      ​@@Great_PatBingsoo nah. Most of his fights he only loses by points. Apart from GGG he only fought young killers who had all the advantages on him. He's prolly the best Journey Man of all time because of his heart and the level of opposition he's been through 👑

    • @keenynthewise
      @keenynthewise Год назад +7

      @@tha_MVPLAYA I wouldn’t say he’s a journeyman but what we call a “gate keeper” someone at world title contender level who you basicallly gotta go through to get a world title and prove whether your elite or not.

  • @OscarTheWiseGuy
    @OscarTheWiseGuy Год назад +613

    A NBA Benchwarmer makes 1 million lol

    • @kidmid706
      @kidmid706 Год назад +146

      Wrong 5 million league minimum 🤣🤣

    • @deesee2051
      @deesee2051 Год назад +65

      A million???? It’s ppl that play single digit mins if any that make 7-8 million a yr

    • @mauricemack5087
      @mauricemack5087 Год назад +99

      Yeah but do you know how hard it is to become a NBA bench warmer lol.. it’s not easy to make it to the league. It’s hard to even make it to the G League.

    • @louiewavey3687
      @louiewavey3687 Год назад +12

      And not many can make it to the league .. let alone a pro fighter

    • @deesee2051
      @deesee2051 Год назад +52

      @@mauricemack5087 thank you ppl don’t understand that go to LA fitness and those clowns in there think they can beat Dillion Brooks 😂

  • @blackmantravel6954
    @blackmantravel6954 Год назад +130

    You have to beat the guys that nobody thinks you can beat. You beat a top fighter you become a top fighter

    • @Getoutyourfeelingsandactlikeam
      @Getoutyourfeelingsandactlikeam Год назад +10

      I guess it doesn't apply to tank, because he's the oldest out of the four horsemen, and still avoiding black fighters and the champ, they pushing for a tire rethread, anything to duuck the top black fighters, they're willing to fight the same c level Hispanic bums. It's obvious, but Tank fans and everybody knows they're corny and cherry-picking.

    • @darinevans7011
      @darinevans7011 Год назад

      Haney hasn't beaten any top fighters.

    • @Boomy2nicce
      @Boomy2nicce Год назад +1

      @@Getoutyourfeelingsandactlikeam Hispanic fights bring in more money to the promoters

    • @blackmantravel6954
      @blackmantravel6954 Год назад +4

      @@darinevans7011 Darin let me tell you how this works. Teo beat loma and kambosa beat Teo and then Haney beat Kambosa which makes Haney the top fighter right now.

    • @Relaxinghubw
      @Relaxinghubw Год назад

      @@blackmantravel6954 beat him twice

  • @juicebox6616
    @juicebox6616 Год назад +30

    That's true, Shawn Porter was the elite boxers tester .

    • @pokedon92
      @pokedon92 Год назад +5

      He won multiple world titles. He was a bit better than a test for the elite guys.

    • @samt7676
      @samt7676 Год назад

      @@pokedon92 you know what he means tho he’s not on the level of a bud or Spence

    • @pokedon92
      @pokedon92 Год назад

      @@samt7676 Fair enough.

    • @jamesjackson7616
      @jamesjackson7616 Год назад

      I feel his father was the problem. You can’t let another man make decisions for you especially one who has control of everything in your life. A few of those fights he knew he wasn’t ready for. His father put em in there with Spence for the payday. Then tells him to retire and he had a great career etc.

    • @larryhoover8095
      @larryhoover8095 Год назад

      @ Sam T name all the elite boxers that beat him??

  • @wallyspicks
    @wallyspicks Год назад +78

    Haney is so well spoken for his age and for his profession. He obviously hasn’t took a lot of brain damage throughout his fights or sparring

    • @mrsugar2352
      @mrsugar2352 Год назад +19

      He’s not really.

    • @okallup8012
      @okallup8012 Год назад +2

      Facts.

    • @GrooooV
      @GrooooV Год назад +3

      nigga he’s young😂

    • @gloriouspurpose_
      @gloriouspurpose_ Год назад +25

      Damn bro you've got a low bar for well spoken lol

    • @mrsugar2352
      @mrsugar2352 Год назад

      @@gloriouspurpose_ doesn’t he. Boy sounds awful.

  • @eh2918
    @eh2918 Год назад +37

    Pitbull Cruz is a great example

    • @beedee5369
      @beedee5369 Год назад +1

      That’s a good example. But that’s only a style matchup. Somebody smaller than tank with a high guard coming forward with his head down. Tank handled dude and if they fight again it will be the same if tank doesn’t hurt his hand on his forehead

    • @Tarik-if9zc
      @Tarik-if9zc Год назад +2

      ​@Bee Dee arguable losing the fight is called handled now days?

    • @beedee5369
      @beedee5369 Год назад +1

      @UniqueDivine being a piñata

  • @jcjcviews
    @jcjcviews Год назад +3

    0:50 You must crack that " ceiling," the term you were searching for, Mr. Haney, to explain how you should become a constant "contender" for your staying power. Did you see that movie, On the Waterfront, with Marlon Brando? This move made history.
    As for what you said about the benefits of being an elite, being past the age of young, I'm happy to see a young brother on the scene of your accomplishments who seems mature and well-balanced. I congratulate you for your honest work and devotion. Keep being that winner and forever a "contender." You have a lot of loyal fans now.
    Finally, above all else, your success inspires the younger people out here struggling, wishing to succeed.

    • @dd4789
      @dd4789 Год назад

      Actually “Threshold” was the word he was looking for 😉

    • @jcjcviews
      @jcjcviews Год назад

      @@dd4789 "Threshold," "Barrier,"? Why not my choice again? That's funny to me to these replies. Now I'll have to go and listen to the whole darn thing again. Thanks a lot for the comments, sorta.😏

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 2 месяца назад

      To be in the NBA, you have to be tall. To be a pro boxer, you can be 5-6 Pacquiao and make $40 million a fight.

  • @cristianchavez1699
    @cristianchavez1699 Год назад +12

    Haney is a once in a lifetime fighter and you got this juice head over like "yeah I can take you"... good lord help us all

  • @ufcisfake1
    @ufcisfake1 7 дней назад

    Haney is eloquent and well spoken for a person that gets hit in the head a lot.

  • @gb1984yt
    @gb1984yt 8 месяцев назад +1

    Attention is what gets the bags in fighting either MMA or Boxing

  • @peterbadami4872
    @peterbadami4872 Год назад +5

    We gotta stop with this "you have to be undefeated in fighting if you want to be a star"; most of the most popular and respected fighters of all time have loses.

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 2 месяца назад

      Most of the fighters have undefeated records before being on television.

  • @DoubleJabSlipRightHand
    @DoubleJabSlipRightHand Год назад +9

    Only the top 1% are making any real money. Plenty of fighters are actually paying out of pocket for travel expenses to fights and after paying your trainer 10%, cutman 5%, you are barely breaking even. Not to mention paying taxes at the end of the year. I knew plenty of guys who were fighting in D.R and mexico for $400 and spending more to get there. All to build a record and one day get a decent pay day. Its a rough sport.

    • @allaboutwwe9269
      @allaboutwwe9269 Год назад

      It’s a business, you have to sell a fight. You can be the best fighter but if no one wants to watch you you ain’t getting paid

  • @keepitabuck9961
    @keepitabuck9961 Год назад +27

    Devin Haney talks really intelligent I like that

    • @atp2727
      @atp2727 Год назад +9

      the dude is real as fuck

    • @Chilakilos
      @Chilakilos Год назад

      😂😂😂😂 u gay

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd Год назад

      Well tell him the word he was looking for was “THRESHOLD”

  • @Fausto410
    @Fausto410 Год назад +1

    To become the man, you have to beat the man. Its that simple.

  • @blewgrassboy8461
    @blewgrassboy8461 Год назад +4

    He's talked about all the guys that he will never fight

    • @Sambigs9112
      @Sambigs9112 Год назад +1

      The ones you’ve fought aye ya muppet

  • @brando3342
    @brando3342 Год назад +3

    Imagine complaining about money, while having millions of dollars in the bank... bruh, these guys, man 🤦‍♂

  • @Freechannelopen9
    @Freechannelopen9 Год назад +9

    I'd argue a larger pool is actually trying to get on the field or court opposed to the ring.
    It probably generates a lot more as well.
    If those guys were going in the ring instead, a lot of fighters would probably get pushed down the rankings.
    Perhaps, even Devin himself.

    • @rapperstuff
      @rapperstuff Год назад +1

      Oh for certain. You see all these freak athletes in the NFL ? Imagine if they picked up a pair of boxing gloves when they were younger as opposed to a football.

    • @Freechannelopen9
      @Freechannelopen9 Год назад +1

      @@rapperstuff 💯

    • @AV144K
      @AV144K Год назад +1

      @@rapperstuff hell no these guys in the NBA and NFL are all super middleweights to heavyweights. Devin Haney is fighting at 135 pounds and wouldn’t effect Devin. There is a small pool for mastery in general. To actually make the NBA or be considered it’s drills daily not playing pick up with weak dudes for fun which 75% of people who “play” basketball do. I played college ball and I box now and do jujitsu. All people who are proficient in sports are in a small pool in general. From tennis to sumo wrestling and it isn’t to be undermined by weird overly analytical comments such as these.

    • @Grind2Excellence
      @Grind2Excellence Год назад +7

      No football & basketball does not translate to boxing at all. Nate Robinson was one of the most freakiest athletes & all his fast twitch freakness didn’t do anything at all.

    • @AV144K
      @AV144K Год назад +1

      @@Grind2Excellence exactly!!

  • @l2kwavyl
    @l2kwavyl Год назад +3

    I believe the word he was looking for was “ Threshold “ at @:55 🤣

    • @mcbthird
      @mcbthird Год назад

      Or maybe another option is barrier

  • @lamart3857
    @lamart3857 Год назад +1

    Boxing is the highest paid of any sport if your in the 1% no other sport i have seen where a guy made 300M a night let alone a season we saw a guy make his boxing debut and made 100M in his debut,Pacquiao made 150M in 1 fight boxing is crazy like that some guys get paid $500 a fight some get 100M thats crazy

  • @gregorydavis8699
    @gregorydavis8699 Год назад +86

    Floyd was able to make money cause of his marketability. Floyd really changed boxing if it wasn't for Floyd boxing wouldn't be like it is now.

    • @JokerKynG
      @JokerKynG Год назад +7

      It's always been like this since jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey since the beginning ofQueensbury rules really

    • @YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet
      @YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet Год назад +19

      Nah you just young or didn't watch boxing much back in the day. Floyd is one of many in history to do what he did lol its just accessibility changed over time. Tyson, Ali , Dempsey, Leonard, Jones, de la Hoya etc. Many have done what he did for the sport. Floyd was just the one to go undefeated

    • @rebellion7463
      @rebellion7463 Год назад +13

      Yeah you're right, there wouldn't be so many boring cowardly boxers if it wasnt for Floyd.

    • @YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet
      @YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet Год назад +2

      @@rebellion7463 oof. Lol for the jugular

    • @Hucho400
      @Hucho400 Год назад

      @@YalSayAnythingOnAlGoreInternet
      No, it has been said many of times that Floyd has change the dynamics of boxing especially when it comes to the business aspect. He’s one of the highest paid boxers off all times and he understood the business side more than anybody else. He’s a billionaire because of that.

  • @couchmayne4351
    @couchmayne4351 Год назад +4

    Pitbull cruz is an example of someone who lost but the world wants to see tank didn’t even want to give him the rematch he was even pissed off after the fight and stormed off lol

  • @davidjean-louis8885
    @davidjean-louis8885 Год назад +22

    He is definitely right about that I have to be a elite fighter to make the bag😊

    • @lamart3857
      @lamart3857 Год назад

      That's 🧢 conor McGregor,jake paul,derrick chisora none of these guys are great boxers but got millions out of boxing not bcuz of their talent they got it bcuz controversy sells

    • @yayz9442
      @yayz9442 Год назад +1

      @@lamart3857 but they have a name.

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 2 месяца назад

      MMA fighters made more from boxing than in the UFC. That’s sad.

  • @816to305
    @816to305 Год назад +17

    This a bad example because the basketball and football players making veteran minimums were elite earlier in their careers but they still add value to the team. This is the same as his example of fighters that used to be elite but still making money. To his credit though, in team sports, you have role-players. There is no such thing as a role-player boxer.

    • @whydopeoplealwayssayuhm
      @whydopeoplealwayssayuhm Год назад +11

      you dived too deep into the team sports aspect. he's saying there are "mediocre" players in those leagues that earn more than "mediocre" boxers. he's not saying there's role players in boxing, where's you get that from? rewatch it again if you'd like. i'm going to explain what he's trying to convey with more details than devin was able to.
      he's basically saying your first or second contracts in the nfl or nba can guarantee you a certain amount, based on your base salary, if you're "mediocre", which is usually an average of a few million. rookie contracts for lottery picks can earn a few million per year. anything above the 10th-12th pick is usually just under a million per year, around 900k per year for 4 years, unless they renegotiate the contract for a re-signing if they exceeded expectations (rookie max). and then you have contracts for veteran minimums which are around 2.5 mill per year. so he's right, players in the nba can earn a few mill per year while being decent. BUT if you're an undrafted player you're getting paid less in your first contract until you exceed expectations and are nearing the end of that contract, and then they'll re-sign you for more.
      in the nfl a rookie earns around 750k a year for their first 4 years. after finishing those 4 years, your base salary becomes 900k minimum. so if they sign a 3 year contract they'll still earn a total base salary as a vet, earning close to 3 mill in 3 years.
      an upcoming "mediocre" boxer would not earn half of what they're earning in a 2-3 year time span compared to nba and nfl players. and the examples of salaries i shared aren't for star athletes or players who were elite when they first played, or mid-level contracts, they're the rookie base salary and veteran base salaries.

    • @SandersAli
      @SandersAli Год назад +1

      @@whydopeoplealwayssayuhm the marketing of a football team is what gets them the money if you don’t have good marketing and promotion as a boxer it’s gonna be hard to make money because people have to pay to want to see you

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd Год назад +4

      This comment makes no sense.

    • @Obiamajoyisrmd
      @Obiamajoyisrmd Год назад +1

      @@whydopeoplealwayssayuhm you typed an essay and included irrelevant details, yet you missed the actual point devin was making

    • @TysonHarvey
      @TysonHarvey Год назад +1

      He's also ignoring the fact that average is a bad metric plenty of guys making 200-300k in the NFL and only have a 3-4 year career due to not being at that level. If you can get into the league it's still a great bag though

  • @ccarrillo262
    @ccarrillo262 Год назад +1

    Only around 450 players in the nba tho at a given time. Thousands of boxers out there that no one cares to see fight.

  • @seansean7653
    @seansean7653 Год назад +1

    Finally a honest dude.

  • @drewyoung9734
    @drewyoung9734 Год назад +28

    Basketball 55k minimum but the worst player is one of the best in the world

    • @RingsideReporterLive
      @RingsideReporterLive Год назад +9

      Here is the basket ball minimum salary.
      Rookie - 953k per year.
      1 year - $1.53 million per year.
      2 years - $1.71 million per year.
      3 years - $1.78 million per year.
      4 years - $1.84 million per year.
      5 years - $1.99 million per year.
      6 years - $2.15 million per year.

    • @anthonyrivera-medina
      @anthonyrivera-medina Год назад +1

      @@RingsideReporterLive that’s more like nba salary

    • @gabrielbonhomme2991
      @gabrielbonhomme2991 Год назад +6

      55k a year in nba??? What hellll no maybe wnba 😂

  • @reaalkept276
    @reaalkept276 Год назад

    0:48 .. the word bro is looking for is “threshold”

  • @b.-r-Y__
    @b.-r-Y__ Год назад

    Me screaming , upper echelon when he was trying find the words 😂😂

  • @TheJaybezel2
    @TheJaybezel2 Год назад +7

    Man I haven’t seen no one fighter get paid off of giving Devin a good fight am I wrong?

    • @Donono84
      @Donono84 Год назад +6

      "Good fight" means a close entertaining fight. Think of Sean Porter, he lost against Brook,Thurman, Spence, and Crawford but as fans we watched his fights because he gave good value for money. Even his victories against Garcia and Broner were entertaining.

    • @younghater707
      @younghater707 Год назад

      Kambosos didn’t give him a good fight but he sure as hell got paid and so will Loma

    • @BrittneySymmes
      @BrittneySymmes Год назад

      Every fighter who fights Haney gets their highest pay day them the facts and Haney owns his own promotional company he signed himself he learned from Floyd Mayweather himself

  • @willboxing8254
    @willboxing8254 Год назад +6

    Canelo had losses and just came out yesterday on Forbes he’s the 5th highest paid athlete and only boxer on that list

    • @oneilmarston698
      @oneilmarston698 Год назад +1

      Bec he has whole Mexico 🇲🇽 buys his fights big difference some can't sellout da local bar

    • @yayz9442
      @yayz9442 Год назад

      @@oneilmarston698 i mean he's also one of the greatest boxers lol

  • @juanlopezjr6756
    @juanlopezjr6756 Год назад +2

    True story.. my son's pro debut he got paid $800

  • @oGangir
    @oGangir Год назад +18

    Not true, I'm a boxer with 2 wins and 48 losses but I make roughly 150 million a fight.

    • @SirBobertThe3rd
      @SirBobertThe3rd Год назад +29

      What are you fighting? The global banking system?

    • @misophone
      @misophone Год назад +1

      @@SirBobertThe3rd 😭😭😭

    • @Txrquin
      @Txrquin Год назад +1

      U scam as a side hustle?

    • @oGangir
      @oGangir Год назад

      @@Txrquin I bought an indian pc company

    • @oGangir
      @oGangir Год назад

      @@SirBobertThe3rd got me there

  • @bleedwolf5
    @bleedwolf5 Год назад +1

    Boxers need to grow their fanbase to get NBA type money.

  • @nananyantakyi1549
    @nananyantakyi1549 Год назад +4

    Yh the bag is concentrated at the top unlike NBA and NFL

  • @Da10thwonda
    @Da10thwonda Год назад +4

    Boxing is about personality and that is it. There are some elite fighters out there but they don't get as much as other boxers who have a personality or create a persona.

    • @rph8704
      @rph8704 Год назад +3

      It's all about marketing yourself. Ryan Garcia is a good example.

  • @derrickhatten597
    @derrickhatten597 Год назад

    Not to mention the payout you have to make to trainers, nutritionist, sparring partners, travel for everyone...and a plethora of other specialists

  • @joshuat5140
    @joshuat5140 Год назад +1

    He is right about that pay. I been trying to tell people that very few make big bags. Bradley is right about losing though. That's why fighters duck everyone but cans. They want journeymen fights. To keep there record undefeated because it helps make you look better. But you can lose and still be a great and make good money.

    • @ad7711x
      @ad7711x Год назад

      But that will only get you but so far, the moment you face a legit opponent and lose, it’s a wrap. You might get one more chance and if you fumble that, it’s over.

  • @Szt90
    @Szt90 Год назад

    The difference between boxing and other sports is Boxers have more expenses. NBA,NFL players have everything they need

  • @Makethatmoneyent
    @Makethatmoneyent Год назад +3

    It’s not the loss it’s how you lose great boxers fight a great fighter is most likely gonna have a loss that doesn’t make the great fighter a bum he would just be a great fighter with a loss like many hall of fame boxers

    • @luigianolind8978
      @luigianolind8978 Год назад

      Thank you Mayweather set the motion for these young black & latino fighters that don't wanna lose there 0 because they look up to Mayweather that's why maybe most are ducking around each other w/ that type of mindset it's what makes boxing not as great as the 20th century sadly 🙄

  • @El_Gualla
    @El_Gualla Год назад

    Crack the “threshold” that’s the word you was looking for

  • @larrysmith5393
    @larrysmith5393 Год назад

    The problem with comparing mid NFL players and NBA players to mid boxers is that there are no leagues in boxing, a truly mediocre American football/basketball player is nowhere near the NBA or NFL and is literally not getting paid a thing. A mediocre boxer can atleast just about get by.

  • @Fearhumans
    @Fearhumans Год назад

    He’s right. That was Andy Ruiz’s career. One good fight v Anthony Joshua changed his 2:01

  • @kingjordan2326
    @kingjordan2326 Год назад

    you gotta understand he tryna do everything on his own so his pay is different

  • @jalilharrison2034
    @jalilharrison2034 Год назад

    Threshold crack that threshold my bwoay 😂

  • @devinsheaven
    @devinsheaven Год назад

    "threshold" 0:52

  • @11bornrich
    @11bornrich Год назад +3

    The one thing I hate about sports, especially, sports and entertainment that the black race dominates is, we get the shittest deals. People don't know this but a lot of fighters actually pay a percentage to their trainer, cutman, agent, sometimes other management or promoters and even governing bodies, these things are unacceptable. Athletes need to negotiate more, the idea of a standard contract and standard industry practice is ridiculous. Bankers would never allow this type of nonsense in their field. They wouldn't try this nonsense with anyone else, at a certain level they'd simply be compensated for their time and services, nothing more nothing less. If you're paying 5% to a cutman of a $10M bag that's 500k, that's unacceptable, even 100k is unacceptable. Paying 10%+ to a trainer that's unacceptable. These guys need to understand that they're basically companies, they shouldn't be retaining merely 30% if they're lucky of their bag after taxes and all other expenses. They need to set themselves up like an actual business. You have NBA players making hundreds of millions of dollars... that's a corporation, why are you giving away half in taxes... why are you giving agents 5%+...

    • @Axqeus
      @Axqeus Год назад +1

      What did this have to do w black people

    • @TheFEWWrestling
      @TheFEWWrestling Год назад

      ​@@Axqeussome folks just have to make anything about race

    • @david-lm7iu
      @david-lm7iu Год назад

      ​@TheFEWWrestling put aside what he said about race what he saying is reasonable

    • @11bornrich
      @11bornrich Год назад

      @@Axqeus I was talking about the industries and spaces where the deals are terrible unfavourable, they're industries dominated by black people. Sports, entertainment, music or at least at the highest level in each of these fields. The deals and contracts are nasty, fields dominated by other races like Hedge Funds, Investment banking, Natural Resources, Mining, Construction, the contracts are very favourable. Imagine a luxury realtor telling a client that they're going to take 20% of what they earn from sales. That could never happen, even advisors in the music industry take commissions, same with managers, in corporate, managers earn salaries, they can never ask for 20% of the companies earnings not even CEOs lol
      There are certain industries where they violations are crazy, boxing is one of them. That's why a lot of people didn't like when Floyd decided to have control over his situation because it cut out a lot of the middle men that were trying to rob him

    • @11bornrich
      @11bornrich Год назад

      @@TheFEWWrestling Just say it went over your head, I barely play the race game but it's facts. Compare contracts in corporate and then compare contracts in entertainment and sports.

  • @cv22332
    @cv22332 Год назад

    Its numbers. Alot more people can be pro fighters than be NBA players. There's no roster limit. That's why there are pro boxers today that look like they started fighting yesterday.

  • @bloodntears3280
    @bloodntears3280 Год назад +4

    I like the guy wearing a patek talking bout the harsh reality of fighter pay in boxing lol. My friend boxes for around 4-5 years (professionally) his last fight he made 250k and I'm not being harsh but he is in no way shape or form in title contentions or very well known. Boxing makes more then double what MMA pays. A lot of these fighters just dont want people coming after them for money show that boxing check or silence.

    • @josephcassidy1854
      @josephcassidy1854 Год назад

      Not well known, not in title contention… and he made 250k? Who is this lol

    • @lallen8462
      @lallen8462 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@josephcassidy1854 Exactly I smell bulls**t on this one. Notice how he never answered the question lol.

  • @KKOPPONG
    @KKOPPONG Год назад

    As an average fighter, MMA fighters earn more than boxers.

  • @jeromeprincejr3842
    @jeromeprincejr3842 Год назад +5

    Boxers need to be marketed better. There's no reason they can't make $ like top level NCAA athletes do with NIL deals

    • @Erickwashere
      @Erickwashere Год назад

      It’s hard because they don’t consistently bring in the revenue year round

    • @jeromeprincejr3842
      @jeromeprincejr3842 Год назад +1

      @@Erickwashere boxing doesn't have a season like other sports so it should be easier to bring in year round revenue

  • @zukodazombie4356
    @zukodazombie4356 Год назад

    It’s about technique is what he’s trying to say. You throw a punch u twist ya hood keep ya hands up do everything right be in shape along with what he said

  • @AliiG-ft6rj
    @AliiG-ft6rj Год назад

    Which is why the olympics is so important for boxing

  • @cleancountershot3941
    @cleancountershot3941 Год назад

    If he sneezes it’s a wrap for brad

  • @oMusicHD
    @oMusicHD Год назад

    Perfect example Putbull Cruz

  • @sean4427
    @sean4427 Год назад

    This video hits different after that Loma fight 🤨

  • @gman0397
    @gman0397 Год назад

    A rookie non starting practice squad member on an NFL team makes a minimum of $800k , shit is insane

  • @RonTheGod
    @RonTheGod Год назад

    THRESHOLD! THE WORD IS THRESHOLD LMAO

  • @masoodr971
    @masoodr971 Год назад

    Boxing is the only sport where there isn’t a draft or selection process into the big leagues. Any dude who can pass a medical can go get a pro license. You have more unique selling power as a forklift driver than a pro boxer.

    • @AliiG-ft6rj
      @AliiG-ft6rj Год назад

      Their should be a draft where the big promoters compete to get the next big thing

  • @DaFactsNoNonsense1713
    @DaFactsNoNonsense1713 Год назад

    Out of ALL "combat sports", boxing's EASILY the most lucrative + can turn any random fighter into a "millionaire" over night = the average boxer gets paid $100K/fight, where "WINNING", is the only requirement for "upward" advancement financially

    • @JG-ys6bq
      @JG-ys6bq Год назад

      the average boxer does not make $100k a fight lol you’re a casual that doesn’t know anything 💀

  • @hercules5311
    @hercules5311 Год назад

    Look at how Haney's head has grown,a sure sign of growth hormone

  • @heyah1447
    @heyah1447 Год назад

    Marcos Maidana vs Floyd Mayweather is a perfect example

  • @Rumpleforeskin29
    @Rumpleforeskin29 Год назад

    There's only boxer getting the bag he just made the Forbes list again and he was the only boxer on the list..

  • @4129codubtheman
    @4129codubtheman Год назад

    Notable mentions of names that are mediocre but still have respect and a name Shawn Porter, Gabriel Rosado, Pitbull Cruz, Marcos Maidana, Tim Bradley,

  • @TysonMoore1337
    @TysonMoore1337 Год назад +2

    It’s because anyone can become a pro boxer where pro players have to go through a lot of levels first.

  • @BdeJJG
    @BdeJJG Год назад

    It takes a lot I got friends that got paid 200-300 dollars

  • @hudson9812
    @hudson9812 Год назад

    Pitbull is in this exact pocket ! Along with Rolly-nobody wants to fight these guys for whatever reason 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @Hannibal54689
    @Hannibal54689 Год назад +2

    Devin Haney a real champ

    • @thecrow764
      @thecrow764 Год назад

      People give him shit at least he active but a boring smart safe style..... point fighting

  • @efraimsoloway4420
    @efraimsoloway4420 Год назад

    Wow the whole mentality is broken. Bradly saying the only way to be big is to be undefeated.

  • @CensorTube84
    @CensorTube84 Год назад

    Haney is the best young fighter out here in my humble opinion.

  • @marcisbrasfield8499
    @marcisbrasfield8499 Год назад

    Well, somebody made a name for a sale last night

  • @willnew4745
    @willnew4745 Год назад

    NBA the pay is good but NFL pay is trash. The minimum is like 700k if you’re active 400k you’re inactive. They can also cut you whenever in the NFL.

  • @playerroku4412
    @playerroku4412 Год назад

    I was told wveryone in boxing is making bank. This cant possibly be true!!!

  • @RufinoMaldonado
    @RufinoMaldonado Год назад

    Isacc Cruz is a perfect example

  • @nyrubin
    @nyrubin Год назад

    Pit bull bouta be a mandatory

  • @Chargers420
    @Chargers420 Год назад

    Pitbull Cruz is the perfect example for his point

  • @RileyFreemanJP
    @RileyFreemanJP Год назад

    Facts I always said this there’s only a small percentage that make more then a mill

  • @topsuperseven7910
    @topsuperseven7910 Год назад +1

    Right, you can lose and boxing needs to have less fighters protecting the holy '0' and it used to be that way. One example more recently has been Derek Chisora, a top 10 heavyweight who loses most fights BUT he puts hell on opponents and sometimes comes close. He's entertaining as hell so, despite losing he's had a fairly impressive series of good paydays. Ryan Garcia will earn more big money superfights despite losing to Tank.

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes Год назад +4

      Floyd started that. After Floyd marketed that “49 have tried, 49 fell short” etc All these boxers don’t want to lose that 0. He helped boxing and screwed it up at the same time.

    • @jonathandewberry289
      @jonathandewberry289 Год назад

      @@Ishbikes there seems to be recurrent phases of this (Floyd reliving/remaking the famed Marciano 49-0) and then it phases back to demands to see the best of the best fight where both the winner and loser go up in value and acclaim. Mayweather definitely did not help (and did and didn't as you rightly say) but here's a place where the rubber meets the road: Fans. casual fans who see a loss and post 'EXPOSED!!!' videos and comments. fans who decide x-boxer is who they're about UNTIL a single loss and they abandon them. There comes a time and place where its on us. It's on fans to realize everything in boxing gets better when a '0' is not magic and losses aren't always a 'lowering' and if you want to see the best fighting the best then you can't worship this Holy Zero thing, you can't get hot over 'Undefeated!!' like that's all that matters. We MIGHT be seeing that change happening (?) but just recently I saw something about Joe Joyce AND Zhang Zilei BOTH getting bigger money opportunities. Another insisted that Tank Davis AND Ryan Garcia are BOTH getting higher offers than ever before.
      IF that's true then that tells me fans are starting to put their money where their mouth (internet comments) are and are now rewarding and supporting, ala tickets and buys, the top fighters who risk their '0s' but giving fans the big top ranked fights they love. Garcia goes UP in value. Juggernaut goes UP. but fans have to be the ones who make that happen.

  • @MACKINASSBILLY
    @MACKINASSBILLY Год назад

    Minimum NFL salary in 2023 was 750,000 .

  • @coachchazzellisboxing
    @coachchazzellisboxing Год назад

    You are more likely to get rich as an elite boxer than anything else. You can't compare a million playing 82 games vs a million for going to training camp for 8 weeks and fighting one night. Think about all the D1 stars that won't even make the NBA or NFL. Shii, you can be trash in boxing and still make money as an opponent. You have to be one of the best basketball or football players on the planet to make a penny in those sports.

  • @Obstakill
    @Obstakill Год назад

    I use to fight in the backyard for free and now I then moved up to where I can sell tix lol. You gotta really love this stuff or it ain’t for you....

  • @Tumkatt
    @Tumkatt Год назад

    Like pitbull Cruz vs Tank

  • @Unknown.-.-.
    @Unknown.-.-. Год назад +3

    Bro when it comes to UFC and Boxing... Boxing gets paid 10x better and more in my opinion 🙃

    • @robertv5161
      @robertv5161 Год назад +1

      Top level boxers vs Top Ufc guys I agree with you, but as far as lower level guys Ufc pays better… Like Haney stated once a boxer reaches that top elite level status you’ll start to see money but until then middle of the pack boxers don’t make as much

  • @swipernoswiping796
    @swipernoswiping796 Год назад

    Sweet spot = that level🤣

  • @michaelcervantes7098
    @michaelcervantes7098 Год назад +1

    Haney got pillow hands

  • @TheReallyBadChannel
    @TheReallyBadChannel Год назад

    Brad don't understand the concept of "career gatekeepers"

  • @JonnyJames26
    @JonnyJames26 Год назад +6

    that's also the biggest difference to the ufc because there everyone is getting paid. Obviously the top ufc guys don't make as much as the top boxers. But if you look at a ufc card, there are like 20-30 fighters and everyone is making money. Even on the biggest boxing cards there are 8-12 fighters and more then 50% of them arnen't even making 5k

    • @Aamirmhmd99
      @Aamirmhmd99 Год назад +2

      Yeah most casuals don't understand this. Like if u enter the top 15 in any UFC div you're making 5-6 figures easy. Then add in bonuses, free healthcare, the UFC PIs, ppv, main event card etc you're making a solid amount if fight 3-4 times a yr. U can also make a lot of money by stepping in as a replacement and you'll be in the good books of the UFC.

    • @zeta2325
      @zeta2325 Год назад

      @@Aamirmhmd99 Hold up, UFC fighters do NOT get free healthcare so don't go on about being casuals and stuff. That's exactly why Francis walked away and it was one of the requests he had to Dana White, free healthcare for all UFC fighters. They do not make that much money in the UFC, not at all. Look up their purses, they also get paid less if they don't win the fight, its called a win bonus and it's just a way for Dana to pay them less. Boxer's get paid win or lose, boxers get their own ppv points, meanwhile there's only a small handful of fighters to ever get PPV points, you can name them on two hands.

    • @zeta2325
      @zeta2325 Год назад

      These guys putting their bodies to get beat up and broken with no healthcare, for dirt and UFC match making is much more harsh. It's better for the fans to watch but if you're a competitor you'd much better off being a boxer since boxing is full of tonnes of cans to fight.

    • @JonnyJames26
      @JonnyJames26 Год назад

      @@zeta2325 the guys on a main ppv card in the ufc make so much more then their purse. Gsp just said that he made 10 mil vs bisping. And francis would have made much more then that in a jones fight. Ufc fighters don't have to pay for a promotion, can work out in the pi for free, get the best food, best equipment and everything for free. All that as soon as they are a ufc fighter. Boxers get nothing of that and 99,9% of them don't make shit

  • @hittingates
    @hittingates 10 месяцев назад

    The ufc pays there prelim fighters way more than boxings prelims fighters that’s why the ufc is on top there’s no picking and choosing everyone eats

  • @THEECHIEFMUSICIAN
    @THEECHIEFMUSICIAN Год назад +1

    *#FACTX** **#DEVINTHEDREAMHANEY*

  • @hustleman8797
    @hustleman8797 Год назад

    The minimum in nfl is not a couple million it's a actually less than 1 million

  • @akidinafrica5944
    @akidinafrica5944 Год назад

    Basically pit Bull vs tank

  • @bestamazon5644
    @bestamazon5644 Год назад

    problem in boxing in each weight class there is 10 champion s . regular or super champ or interum champ etc totale of all weights wull give u 500 champs or more

  • @manner7073
    @manner7073 Год назад

    If you aren't elite in most sports you don't get good money. There are a lot of 🏈 and 🏀 players that make thousands.

  • @macdre2412
    @macdre2412 Год назад

    He aint wanna mention issac cruz lol

  • @MikeDavis-h6s
    @MikeDavis-h6s Год назад

    Probably because it’s not a team sport & boxing is violent, they not playing golf or tennis lol

  • @atp2727
    @atp2727 Год назад

    as much shenanigans i be talking, devon haney a real one for sure, the dude has my vote. keep at it bruh, u an inspiration to ur generation

  • @northernking2604
    @northernking2604 Год назад

    For Floyd's first fight he drove himself to the venue in his beat up old car and by nights end he was paid 900 dollars. Most boxers don't have shit but a broken nose