Exploring Colors: White (How to Paint White) - HC 442

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @Misterfairweather
    @Misterfairweather 8 месяцев назад +75

    Sorry, sorry everyone, this is my fault I was rewatching all his prior white videos this week because every few years I decide to challenge myself by painting in white and black and Vince is my source for actually learning how to work with colors. Thank you for the color videos, they fill a big gap in my understanding of how to paint.

    • @cybermbebe
      @cybermbebe 8 месяцев назад

      Oh yeah. These are A-MA-ZING!

    • @philipgriffiths3106
      @philipgriffiths3106 2 месяца назад

      I've just watched this video & feel I want to have another crack at repainting my Young White Dragon. Now that is a challenge I've failed with more than once! But the idea of using pastel shades from the cold spectrum has given me food for thought & I certainly wouldn't have thought about using a green pastel as a cold white. Thank you for this insight. It's been a very informative watch 😊

  • @vivanjester431
    @vivanjester431 8 месяцев назад +95

    Vince is so powerful he can paint a portal back home while at adepticon just to give us a hobby cheating video

    • @maximebemer3407
      @maximebemer3407 8 месяцев назад +2

      😂
      Is it possible to learn that power??

    • @grimoirworkshop6623
      @grimoirworkshop6623 7 месяцев назад +2

      We already established he can mind control people too.

    • @grimoirworkshop6623
      @grimoirworkshop6623 7 месяцев назад +2

      Maybe Vince is secretly prince of Amber? They knew the art if drawing portals.

    • @Linkittytetris
      @Linkittytetris 5 месяцев назад +1

      "Hello everybody! And welcome to another hobby cheating video. Today we're gonna talk about magic colors, and I don't mean Citadel's Aether-whatsit blue. Let's get into it."

  • @jillsyillsy
    @jillsyillsy 8 месяцев назад +30

    Thanks so much, Vince. As a woodcarver, I use white all the time for painting Santas and snowmen and have the hardest time trying to shade and highlight. (And differentiate Santa's beard from fur on his coat). Great tutorials!

  • @philgee486
    @philgee486 8 месяцев назад +10

    Vince is my encyclopaedia of hobby thinking, I watch other people paint, I learn things from Marco, from Riccardo, the Wappel, I'm inspired by Alex and many others but when I need a specific subject analysis, when I need that full understanding to slot into a project, when I want to paint black hair and get the halo right, when I want to take flesh tones in an evil or underground direction, when I have 50 yellow marines to paint, I come to my reference library that is Vince.
    I'm so grateful for it.
    There's no-one else that comes close

  • @thornthallid950
    @thornthallid950 8 месяцев назад +10

    Loving all the MtG angels on the screens in the intro background.

    • @Krullio
      @Krullio 8 месяцев назад +1

      Notice the one with all the different white tints/tones. Pretty applicable hehe. Subliminal messaging that technomancer Vince throws at us

  • @KujoPainting
    @KujoPainting 7 месяцев назад +3

    Something that helped me was just to think of it as painting a light colour, rather than painting white. So a light green, light pink, light blue etc. Then when it's surrounded by darker colours it reads as white even though it's not.

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  7 месяцев назад +2

      Absolutely agreed! Hope you're doing well sir.

  • @MarketResearchReading114
    @MarketResearchReading114 8 месяцев назад +3

    Gloss+white is such a nice shout, thank you Vince!

  • @AVS_uk
    @AVS_uk 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is super helpful Vince. My job is to paint the snow on Mount Blanc (most people don't know that snow actually falls blue and we Snow Painters have to paint it all white), so this video will really help me out. Your ski trip will look much whiter next winter

    • @razzlebazzle420
      @razzlebazzle420 8 месяцев назад +1

      Are you new, i went on a school trip about 21 years ago and the last guy was killing it

    • @AVS_uk
      @AVS_uk 8 месяцев назад

      @@razzlebazzle420 - ah yes, that would have been Old Bill - a legend in my field. He painted the slopes for 40 years, a real expert and genius at ice whites.

    • @razzlebazzle420
      @razzlebazzle420 8 месяцев назад

      @@AVS_uk Glorious. Tell me, did he paint the ice-caves with all the sculptures too? His mastery of translucent glazes absolutely blows me away. One day I hope to gain such skills.

  • @mr.adamski6431
    @mr.adamski6431 8 месяцев назад +4

    I’ve been struggling with painting white for years. Thanks for the useful info and tips!

  • @jorgemontero6384
    @jorgemontero6384 8 месяцев назад +8

    That AK pastel purple is a killer that I am surprised you never mentioned in your list of favorite colors, because basically nobody else in mini painting makes it, and it's just as good illuminator for purples and magentas as ice yellow is for many other colors. Ice yellow just overpinks magentas. I just don't touch purple without it

  • @Slayernuke83
    @Slayernuke83 8 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for the video. I have the most difficulty in getting white to look right on so many items.

  • @mattbrown1306
    @mattbrown1306 8 месяцев назад +5

    Another timely, helpful, and accessible tutorial. Vince continues to crush hobby content.

  • @OlafKievit
    @OlafKievit 8 месяцев назад +14

    Thanks for stretching my ideas about "near whites" a bit farther out, much appreciated, Vince!

  • @Satli
    @Satli 8 месяцев назад +2

    I bought the Golden SoFlat box after you did a video on it a while back. By far the best white paint I've tried.

  • @billmalandrino8337
    @billmalandrino8337 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hello! I wanted to take a moment to reach out and express my gratitude. Your instructional videos have been a significant help in my journey through miniature painting. Just before my 43rd birthday, I decided to dive into wargaming. After consulting with friends, I selected a couple of games and purchased the miniatures. Understanding that painting them would be part of the fun, I began watching tutorial videos, including yours, which stood out to me. The knowledge I've gleaned from your content has been immensely beneficial. Although I still face challenges, I'm feeling increasingly confident with each miniature I paint, all thanks to your guidance. Interestingly, I've discovered that I derive just as much, if not more, enjoyment from painting as I do from playing the games themselves. So, thank you for generously sharing your expertise, and continue being amazing

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  8 месяцев назад

      Wonderful the hear and always happy to help!

  • @kevinhayes517
    @kevinhayes517 8 месяцев назад +2

    Another superb tutorial packed with the underlying theories (which you make easily understandable) and a lot of great tips for the painting process on this color……thank you so much for you time and effort to help us paint better!

  • @ThePingouin2ter
    @ThePingouin2ter 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you so much for this one. The pastel blue becoming a white when applied was eye opening.

  • @notnubilous3804
    @notnubilous3804 8 месяцев назад

    Honestly the thing that really taught me about using white effectively was using artist grade acrylic mixing white, which doesn't really desaturate colors as much as a titanium white. But it really showed me how much depth of white you can get from just one color while mixing it with something else. I highly recommend it to everyone to try out.

  • @huffinLeeroy
    @huffinLeeroy 5 месяцев назад

    This is the only hobby channel I need. There is so much here, and all of it is so well taught. It's comprehensive and relevant, all without feeling like a lecture. And not just WHAT to do, but also WHY (the why is something I need or I struggle to get a grasp). Thank you, sir. I greatly appreciate your work.

  • @RookieBrushes
    @RookieBrushes 8 месяцев назад +2

    My favourite series is back! Thank you for everything you do.

  • @BaoZakeruga
    @BaoZakeruga 8 месяцев назад

    New painter here and today was my first time trying to paint white. This video came at the perfect time.

  • @martinsteward1657
    @martinsteward1657 8 месяцев назад +3

    Brilliant video! Shocked at how white those paints looked on the model.

  • @alternate3787
    @alternate3787 8 месяцев назад

    I got a lot of inspiration from the MtG set Mirrodin, where everything is made of metal. The amount of bright reflections while staying diverse enough to present a world is really something

  • @KevinoftheCosmos
    @KevinoftheCosmos 8 месяцев назад

    Adding a gloss medium to pure white is brilliant. I can't believe I've never thought of that before. Cheers, Vince!

  • @gerritvandenbosch4681
    @gerritvandenbosch4681 8 месяцев назад +1

    This reminds me of my graphic design work in printing. White is easily tainted by other colours, but when near whites are next to white you almost never cam tell, and sometimes looks better than unprinted white areas.

  • @erinweatherly6539
    @erinweatherly6539 3 месяца назад

    What a great video. I forwarded this to a friend who is just starting out. I said the trick to painting white is just don’t do it. I didn’t explain it very well. Vince is a great teacher

  • @jasontrinque
    @jasontrinque 8 месяцев назад

    That is a really interesting point about adding the gloss varnish to the white to make it read more white. Thank you for sharing that! I think I remember someone saying something similar for adding gloss black in shadows for reducing the graying effect that matte paint would cause. You have inspired me to try and experiment with going from trying a satin black shadow, matte layers, and then a gloss highlight! Fun!

  • @flowersofsulphur5532
    @flowersofsulphur5532 8 месяцев назад +2

    Some really interesting points. Thank you for taking the time to share. I was hoping you'd also cover the use of white to lighten colors and things to think about (e.g. for edge highlighting if you don't have a go-to pot of paint that is already lighter/brighter that meets your needs. So for example - what are the pitfalls? ... and do you need to sometimes think to offset by adding white + another warm/cold color?).

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  8 месяцев назад +1

      In general, I just mix in a little bit of those pastel near whites into my base tone to knock out the edge.

  • @Xaltotun
    @Xaltotun 8 месяцев назад

    The timing of this video is perfect, as I am starting to build a Sisters of Sigmar warband for Mordheim.

  • @oleww50
    @oleww50 8 месяцев назад +1

    Not sure how you do it but you always seem to read my mind with these videos! White is on my agenda 😅🙏❤️

  • @milamilla1977
    @milamilla1977 8 месяцев назад

    I was making fairy garden for kids and used your advise to paint white parts of the project. Turned out really well!

  • @HedoniteOfPaint
    @HedoniteOfPaint 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing to see the color series extended! Thanks again and hope you are enjoying Adepticon

  • @johnbruce4004
    @johnbruce4004 8 месяцев назад

    I watched this virtually in slo-mo, so much info. Really, really helpful and superb explanation. Have a great rest of Adepticon. Thanks.

  • @wpb5876
    @wpb5876 6 месяцев назад +1

    So much appreciation for all your work and sharing your knowledge of painting. I’m planning to paint a white Manticore (based on the Dark Souls mini-boss) and this video is a godsend!

  • @Ash-sf4gr
    @Ash-sf4gr 8 месяцев назад

    Aw yeah! A long awaited return to my favourite series. Would never have thought to mix gloss varnish into white paint, very interesting.

  • @cordial001
    @cordial001 8 месяцев назад

    I love your hobby videos. You touched on how good the Pro Acryl off-whites are. I was blown away myself by how much better they are than most other lines on the market for those sorts of colors. I don't know how they do it.

  • @bunionsandcabbage6764
    @bunionsandcabbage6764 8 месяцев назад

    Man, I wish this video had come out like 2 weeks earlier. This was great info and I had just finished a black and white wasp for a commission.

  • @edgarbaez516
    @edgarbaez516 8 месяцев назад

    This video has been on my wishlist for awhile, I'm excited its finally here!

  • @alanwesley598
    @alanwesley598 8 месяцев назад

    Everyone who paints minis needs this video.

  • @Isaac-hm6ih
    @Isaac-hm6ih 8 месяцев назад

    I'm looking at painting an entire army with white capes soon, so this is convenient timing. Hopefully I'll be able to pick up a few extra tricks on top of your old videos, which already taught me to paint white well.

  • @BARBARIAN198
    @BARBARIAN198 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks vince you gave me the inspiration for a heresy project i’m working on.

  • @AM-uw3gp
    @AM-uw3gp 8 месяцев назад

    I love your screensaver Vince I can’t stop looking at the winged people

  • @brkfstfd
    @brkfstfd 8 месяцев назад

    I've been doing some of my highest highlights on S2D lately with the updated game color Verdigris. That's a really great way to see how composition and surroundings influence how color reads. No one would assume it's verdigris without being told. It reads as 99% dead white next to so much payne's gray and black.

  • @shawnfairbanks9339
    @shawnfairbanks9339 7 месяцев назад

    Hah, I’ve been saying that about white (and white walls) for years, it’s nice to see the pros say it.

  • @cyagen9782
    @cyagen9782 8 месяцев назад

    I enjoy this Serie a lot more than I should. Thanks Vince

  • @NickMagoteaux
    @NickMagoteaux 2 месяца назад

    You have really opened my thinking up about whites! Thank you for the video!

  • @PhD777
    @PhD777 8 месяцев назад

    Vince, another excellent informative video!
    There was an excellent, more in-depth article on painting white some years ago on Planet Figure about painting a French Imperial Guard 3rd (Dutch) Regiment large scale figure wearing a white uniform. It was done with warm shadows similar to your cape.
    On Historical figures from the late 18th to mid/late 19th C. You will find "dead white" used on belts, straps, and similar, especially when painting 15/18mm miniatures to make the belts, straps, and similar stand out.

  • @bragoen
    @bragoen 8 месяцев назад +4

    5:04 "Here's my first piece of advice to make white easy to paint" and in my mind I just go "Don't".... I laugh so hard when that's exactly what you said

  • @fitz394
    @fitz394 2 месяца назад

    The other videos that came up when I searched "Understanding whites" to find this video again was quite the interesting journey

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, I honestly was worried about that when I made the video. Yeesh. Some real mine fields there.

  • @rhag1394
    @rhag1394 8 месяцев назад

    Great guide again! I stilm find white very challenging to paint, but artists acrylic zinc white has helped me smooth the colours together. It's not chalky at all and you can even glaze with it but it's not the most straightforward paint otherwise. I got the idea from a Marco Frisoni video.

  • @SigurdBraathen
    @SigurdBraathen 8 месяцев назад

    I never thought of mixing white with gloss varnish. Thanks for a great video!

  • @Razyrazer
    @Razyrazer 8 месяцев назад

    thx Vince this is exactly what i needed for my marines.

  • @markgnepper5636
    @markgnepper5636 8 месяцев назад +2

    I love all Vince Ventrella Stuff 👏👍

  • @Wijkert
    @Wijkert 8 месяцев назад

    One of my favorite series is back!

  • @tjthehobopainter9173
    @tjthehobopainter9173 8 месяцев назад

    Another great lesson ^^ And nice to see Larry make his guest appearance again 😄

  • @MaskedRiderChris
    @MaskedRiderChris 8 месяцев назад

    Oh yes, I still dread painting white even after what, 14-15 years of painting! But this is, as usual, an excellent video full of good information, thank you Vince!

  • @SigurdDecroos
    @SigurdDecroos 8 месяцев назад

    Golden Soflat has some new colors added to the range, a lot of pastels and near whites. They paint really smooth.

  • @paranelmanterlyzastratatum885
    @paranelmanterlyzastratatum885 5 месяцев назад

    I'm trying to figure out how to paint my sororitas armor to look like porcelain or ceramic with that glossy white, and I think this helps a lot. I'm considering going from a cooler blue-grey to a more orange-ish white given that I'm pairing this with light blue cloaks, then covering the armor in a gloss varnish, which seems to get the look I'm going for with that last segment. Thanks again Vince, your videos are always the best!

  • @Wijkert
    @Wijkert 8 месяцев назад

    I have been experimenting with mixing in white ink into regular acrylics. Ink is glossy as well, so seems to have a similar effect to your suggestion of mixing in gloss varnish into pure white. One extra advance of adding gloss to white paint is that it counteracts the grainy finish. I have "fixed" physical texture with gloss varnish in the past (i probably learned that trick from you Vince... 😉)

  • @aspect0
    @aspect0 8 месяцев назад

    Not really a white painter, but those pastel colours look super unique compared to other ranges! Going to get the set now, they seem very versatile for general simple highlighting

  • @PhthaloGreenskin
    @PhthaloGreenskin 8 месяцев назад

    There's a very easy trick to white I learned from Greg over at GRG miniatures. Basecoat kantor blue/Moletow Petrol then spray white ink from above sortof like a zenithal highlight. Super easy and great for stuff like white Armor.

  • @Benry87
    @Benry87 8 месяцев назад +1

    Another killer tutorial. Great job as always!

  • @ZeehcTunococ
    @ZeehcTunococ 8 месяцев назад +1

    This video came at the perfect time. I'm about to paint some white cloak and cloth. Thanks Vince!

  • @wolfofwarYT
    @wolfofwarYT 8 месяцев назад

    Great video as always. Especially love the part about complimentary colors as tint/shade on the white.

  • @darthmelsie
    @darthmelsie Месяц назад

    I have been struggling for SO long with painting white and just never knew that the issue starts with the inherent roughness of the pigment. It's not really surprising in retrospect because the quality of white paints among different brands is _remarkable._ Army Painter used to have one of the worst whites I've ever worked with, but have had luck with AK these days.
    The only ways I approach it anymore is 1) using GW's Apothecary White Contrast over flat white for something quick or 2) a Foundry-style buildup from dark grey to white for something that looks good *but* takes a while. For once, I actually feel excited for the next time I need to paint something white lol

  • @Coordinator010
    @Coordinator010 8 месяцев назад

    Okay Vince but now I have to go back and painstakingly repaint every single Black Templar shoulder with these cool new whites you've mentioned

  • @milamilla1977
    @milamilla1977 8 месяцев назад

    Master! You experience is invaluable!

  • @76trizzy
    @76trizzy 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Vince! Very helpful

  • @gerritvandenbosch4681
    @gerritvandenbosch4681 8 месяцев назад +3

    A killer video. Back when i used GW paints j used Ulthuan grey as it was very bright but covered like solid black.
    Then you could shade and highlight to white and make it looke white.
    Now i use pro acryl and am happy to learn that their pure white (while nearly perfect) is complemented by near whites too

  • @galatician8063
    @galatician8063 8 месяцев назад +1

    I appreciate your black and white values: Painting over black: "Stop waisting your life". Painting pure white: "Just don't!" (Unless it's a glint).

  • @kingkreaghan
    @kingkreaghan 8 месяцев назад

    So helpful! I actually have a miniatures that has white armor. So great video for me to see! Awesome and informative as always.

  • @terrydactyl2077
    @terrydactyl2077 8 месяцев назад

    God this video was what I needed! I haaaaate all my whites. But I’m grabbing then ProAcryl set soon finally.

  • @Cordeneaux87
    @Cordeneaux87 8 месяцев назад +4

    You can tell Vince recently updated his kitchen and his wife won out on the color aesthetic...

  • @goforitpainting
    @goforitpainting 8 месяцев назад +2

    Cool as always. 🖌

  • @michaelshaw1782
    @michaelshaw1782 8 месяцев назад

    You can tell it's a good Hobby Cheating when you come away with more questions than you started with.
    How do I desaturate and darken my compositions to make the whites pop without losing the impact of my colours? Can I use varied tones to add visual interest to otherwise very flat white compositions? Very interested to try starting at a bone hue- previously I've been painting my way up from a tan/zandri dust kinda startline. Suddenly I'm excited to play around with white as a colour rather than avoid it

    • @VinceVenturella
      @VinceVenturella  8 месяцев назад

      Let me take these in order.
      1) The darker the piece, the less you have to go to white to make it seem like white, the more the value can lower and still feel like white.
      2) Yes and you should.
      3) Absolutely!

  • @MattCexwish
    @MattCexwish 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this Video, Vince! :) I remember how back in the day, the great José Manuel Palomares Nunez (JMPN) and Alfonso Banshee Giraldes were showing how one can paint the White Robes of the Knight Model's Anakin vs. Obiwan Diorama with different shades of orange and green, yet still achieving an amazing perceived White Effect! As a rule of thumb, never use pure White in anything (similar to how you should never use a pure Black) and mix in tiny amounts of accompaning tones found in the scene to tie the piece together. Keep those Videos coming :)

  • @mbau8886
    @mbau8886 2 месяца назад

    My Army Painter starter set contains Matt White, so I thought... The guys that help me adviced not to use it (in other words :-)). I am struggling with my first set of figures, admiring the work I see often in internet, thinking that the natural and real look of lights and shades is done by lighting... and here I see how it gets painted. Good painting needs to master both hand and eye. Thanks for inspiration.

  • @Wadtomaton
    @Wadtomaton 8 месяцев назад

    Great video Vince.
    Shout out to Larry's dumptruck 🤘🤣

  • @Fortunes.Fool.
    @Fortunes.Fool. 8 месяцев назад

    I wish I was starting the hobby now, tutorials like this would’ve been amazing because the advice I got 20 years ago was terrible 😂

  • @MisterTingles
    @MisterTingles 8 месяцев назад +1

    stellar as always!

  • @infamousmaze6870
    @infamousmaze6870 Месяц назад

    Tbh i was more interested in a "dead white" to paint colors over it and brighten them up, but its good to learn the ways to use offwhites to appear white, especially since in many cases, too white a paint might look glaringly out of place.

  • @markdorn8873
    @markdorn8873 8 месяцев назад +1

    I wish I'd seen this video before painting my Shining Spears. Thanks for sharing!
    Also, I don't think I've ever seen a video where someone says, "Let's grab Larry out, and we're just going to paint his butt." 😂

  • @mannschaftvonarschloch1214
    @mannschaftvonarschloch1214 3 месяца назад +1

    The glint of light off your bald head

  • @TerrierHalo
    @TerrierHalo 8 месяцев назад

    I did get the Monument white just to see if it was real, and now I find myself mixing paints with it all the time so that kind of backfired. :D I would get their off-whites to make my life easier but they’re kind of expensive and hard to get over here, so that’s on the some-day list.
    I have been trying to paint some white on a black banner and have not been happy with the end result, the (off) whites end result don’t look quite right, will have this fresh in mind on my next attempt, thank you kindly.

  • @candidgamera
    @candidgamera 8 месяцев назад

    Yeah, I have a few pure whites from various lines, and honestly, I am tempted to just toss them in the trash .. but the idea of a mix with gloss medium is interesting.

  • @shaunkrogulski9619
    @shaunkrogulski9619 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great information as always!!

  • @DrScotavious
    @DrScotavious 7 месяцев назад

    Vince talking about the white glint and my eyes immediately flicker to his forehead. Im bald too, i just thought that was funny 😂

  • @ariellouit8523
    @ariellouit8523 5 месяцев назад

    Hey @vinceventurella please continue the series! I think there is maybe some more colors to talk about. Greys or blacks? Fluo? Metalics?

  • @brkfstfd
    @brkfstfd 8 месяцев назад

    Also, another reason to avoid dead white if at all possible that I've found, in my own experience anyway, is that even just a little bit of an actual color (so I'm talking ice yellow, glacier blue, verdigris, pastel-whatever, and not just a white heavy gray) is they tolerate glazing quite a bit more. Enough that I'll do it. I don't even bother trying to glaze just white.

  • @Krullio
    @Krullio 8 месяцев назад

    Can’t wait for the EC Black!

  • @Wolfie21384
    @Wolfie21384 8 месяцев назад

    Everytime I watch your videos I get an epiphany about painting. ❤ I've been struggling with nmm and I think I've been missing adding the gloss to the white because it keeps going flat

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @bradlothrop4076
    @bradlothrop4076 8 месяцев назад

    Why not get into mixing?
    Titanium makes pastels when mixed but a "zinc white" is a good mixing white for lightening a colour due to being a bit transparent.
    I find this fact is where many paints go wrong much like titanium is added to a colour as more a gouache (to make opaque).
    This was observed a bit with the Army Painter Fanatic paints.
    Zinc white is the little known hero of how to lighten a paint and maintain some level of saturation.
    Great video and good note on gloss to make white read better.

  • @davidfurr6519
    @davidfurr6519 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent video. Thank you Vince.

  • @tankressvasquez1704
    @tankressvasquez1704 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very helpful thanks

  • @YeemRAG
    @YeemRAG 8 месяцев назад

    Another fantastic video, thank you so much!

  • @azuritet3
    @azuritet3 8 месяцев назад

    I just got some white Ikea furniture. I was thinking about painting it.

  • @chucklamb3496
    @chucklamb3496 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much Vince 👍

  • @99zxk
    @99zxk 20 дней назад

    I'd love to see him do some white armor, like storm troopers.

  • @chrisbarrett1006
    @chrisbarrett1006 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for another great video Vince!