Intimidation At Christmas - TV Licence Letter
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- Let’s have a look at a tv licence letter that came in a big red envelope with the title ‘ignoring this letter could cost you a lot more than a tv licence’
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I've ignored these intimidating letters for years and I'm in my 70s now....they hold no fears for this old man.
The present occupier!!!!! They don’t even know who lives where then.
Jon should interview you! Great British spirit
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Also, great account name - Legend
It's an intimidating letter to all the pensioners and single mothers who struggle to keep warm and pay for electricity and gas as well as Christmas. The BBC have preyed on the old/young and vulnerable for years. What an institution to be proud of.
Shame all the struggling single fathers were (unsurprisingly) left off the list, must be a "patriarchy" thing.
@Second Chance I've been a single father with two children for the last 4yrs, luckily I've got a presence at the door, the vulnerable haven't and they prey on it. Didn't mean to offend you.
It is this kind behaviour from the BBC and their representatives that makes me quite angry but even more at the Government for allowing them to get away with it
@@secondchance6603 Relax. That wasn't the intent.
@@mattsnap3986 My bad, no offence taken.
At the age of 86, I prefer to use the £160 on keeping warm rather than helping towards paying Gary Lineker's obscene salary!
if only more people had your attitude, love it!
I absolutely agree Barrie...i refuse to subscribe to the likes of Lineker also.
Those letters make great kindling if you got a log burner Barrie 👍🏻
I wonder if the crisp thief has a TV licence ?
Yes I agree with you 👍
As these letters are so intimidating I can't understand why any legal person hasn't done anything about them after all sending threatening letters is a criminal offence.
Shows that they have the tacit backing of the Government. Of course, they (the Goverment)won't come out and say that.
Part of the establishment! Solicitors very rarely want to take them on.
its because legal people know what to touch and NOT to touch. We have all been shown how society now works, e.g. Protests, media saturation or media silence.
You have to remember the british brain washing corporation is a very useful tool for the government and legal eagles know this.
Read the letter out to the police, omitting any references to TV Licence, TVL, or the BBC, and they will tell you it's blackmail. The moment they become aware it's a TVL letter they're no longer interested. It's like the BBC/TVL have been granted permission to harass, intimidate, threaten, and blackmail citizens. No other company would get away with it.
Three perfectly legitimate replies explaining why they get away with it. You tube have hidden them. They really don't want people to know do they!
Just had my monthly threat in the red envelope. I keep them in a folder and look at them when in need of a good laugh 😂.
me too. I look forward to them in case I get one I dont already have.
@@georgedavidson957 Yep, worth keeping just in case you do have to unlikely defend yourself in court. To show the magistrates just how intimidated & threatened you felt and how you were traumatised by them 😂.
@@georgedavidson957 apparently they go full circle! You receive the worst letter! Then they go back to the beginning of the first letters that they send…😂
Emergency toilet paper!
I'm saving them for the time they finally knock - "Oh hello officer, I believe these belong to you ", and hand them over.
I love the letters saying "you have 8 days" it would be funny if anyone got one on December 17th meaning that TV inspectors would visit on Christmas Day.
They never show up on the date shown on letter, like arranging a POF date and getting ghosted!
@@ep1929 good job there isn't a dating site for TV License goons then!
I've been lawfully licence free for 14 months and I have filled the No Licence Needed declaration twice; Once when I moved in and roughly a couple of months ago and yet these letters persistently come through my door. I haven't had a single person from TV Licensing at my door yet. I too thought these were Christmas cards from family and loved ones. I just take a photo of them to share on Facebook, telling people why you shouldn't be scared of them. Then I bin them.
@@derektaylor2941 I signed the no licence needed declaration last year and any letters I receive, I just bin them.
Quite the Christmas gift. Starting off with a threatening letter.
Jon, would you consider designing a label or labels we could print out and "Return To Sender" these letters? Maybe something like "Under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 I consider this letter to be grossly offensive and threatening in nature" and call on Royal Mail to prosecute TVL for breaking the law. If enough of us do it, might send a message to these bar stewards.
I always re-address them to the director general at the bbc in london , we should all do that the twat would soon get the message.
I really like this idea
The government are in league with them, what I wouldn’t give to stand outside broadcasting house and give each and every one of these parasites their redundancy notices
"Grossly offensive to those who do not identify as male or female" too.
Myself tv licence letters= white stickers(clear window) "f*@k off junk mail c*nt"=6 months zero letters...😉😉😉
I recently had one as well, I wrote on it with a marker pen "f**k off parasites" and sent it back to them without a stamp. Whether or not it got delivered I'll never know, but I can only hope my heart warming message was received by one of those charming minions.
This is better than Netflix. All this is leading up to an epic showdown between Jon and a goon. Jon will be able to show everybody exactly how it's done by himself!
A tall, good-looking woman turned up and said that she was there to make sure I was getting the best deal on broadband. She managed to avoid saying who she represented, but Open Reach were going door to door in the street at that time. She said that she did not represent any one broadband provider. She made a guess at what I was paying and tacked on to the end of her question "what about TV". It was then I realised who she was from and quickly said that no one I knew watched TV any more.
In a court of law is this not entrapment and illegal
@@briangibson8009 Entrapment is a tricky subject. It is only entrapment if the person is enticed to commit an offence that they would not have committed without the intervention.
If they are already watching TV without a licence this is not entrapment.
However it is certainly not ethical.
@@WillCamx The strange thing is that I had her male twin call about five months previously. Both were about the same age and of similar dress code and mental disposition. If they had been introduced as being brother and sister or even lovers, you would not have been surprised. I suspect he thought he was being clever after he was told not to return. I am an old man and have experienced the machinations of many devious minds.
That was sneaky of her
@@mrsillywalk " If they had been introduced as being brother and sister or even lovers, you would not have been surprised.""................. they couldve both been the same person playing dress up.......wouldnt be surprised as the BBC love employing perverts
They've been investigating my address for years!
They are Defective Detectives
That letter represents the ghosts of Christmas past, present and future. I did once need a licence, I don't now and I won't in the future.
As a 24 year single parent, around 12 years ago now, i had a woman turn up at my door from tv licence! She was horrible, telling me if i didn’t get a tv licence I’d be sent to jail & that there’s a lot of young mums in prison for not paying their licence etc all In front of my young son! I was traumatised, then my little boy got upset too!
They are evil that they think that it’s ok that they can treat people like that! I couldn’t afford a tv licence back then, could barely afford to feed us both, Now i could afford it but will never ever give them a penny after the way she treated me!
Wish I’d seen a video like this back then!
About time the scum bags were dragged trough courts for what they are doing to people. Surly this could be stopped legally as its classed as harassment or bullying tactics etc. Who the hell do they think they are. Just low life what they are doing.
They assume guilt
Received the letter a while ago..read it, binned it, forgot about it...your doing a great service, saved me hundreds of pounds since I stopped paying for the 'licence'. Thank you.
Yep I had that style in November, I put it in the round file cabinet like I did with the others.
The salesmen/Goons stopped visiting after being told to Sod off.
I stopped watching tv decades ago ( and of course stopped buying a licence) and they sent me letters which went straight into the bin. They sent one so called enforcement officer round and I simply said I dont need a licence and shut the door on them. Now they don't even bother sending letters they gave up lol. These people have all the legal power of the check out girl in the local supermarket.
Any other company sending a letter like this is breaking the law, so why aren't they?
I've been getting these letters recently, they've all gone straight in the bin!
Robert,, we've always paid the TV licence,,but now I want too stop,, what will happen as they know my name.
@@mauriceosullivan6832 I stopped paying it 2 years ago, only started getting letters recently. I only watch streaming programs, they can do nothing, do not reply to any letters and do not talk to them. The letters do not have my name on them, only 'present occupier'. As CJC says, they have no powers, they don't know what you're watching, the letters should be illegal as they are very intimidating and threatening.
In today's world you can get away with anything. Just put it in a threatening letter.
But only if you are a corporation
A television broadcaster which does not like to be filmed. You couldn't make that up.
They don't care about appearing to be stupid as enough people are genuinely scared of these letters that they pay - no matter how much somebody tells them that they don't need a license.
When I cancelled almost fourteen years ago, they telephoned me a few weeks later even though I hadn't given them my landline number. The stroppy woman I spoke to was clearly suspicious over how genuine I was, so I invited TV Licensing to come round and see for themselves to which they declined.
Yes, you got it right; all this time later they still send threatograms (latest giving me 10 days to get licensed even though I haven't had a TV set since), every single one of which I have filed away. They aren't every month for the last few years btw so maybe hit by the cost of living crisis. Should they ever get seriously heavy, this pile with its consistent contradictions will all be presented as evidence of harrassment after I not only met legal guidelines but went beyond that with more than reasonable offer. And I save the envelopes too. Not got many of those red ones though.
The invitation no longer stands as they are clearly enemies of the people and absolutely NOT the impartial broadcaster upon which rock they were founded.
Merrie Christmas Jon and followers. My advice if you are looking for a new year's resolution is treat this as the equivalent of the comedy they stopped producing years ago.
One bit I don't get though. Why are they still addressing letters to Sir or Madam? I thought the beeb were openly pro gender neutral. Surely this is clear discrimination.
All the best wishes John hope you have a great Christmas .
Hi Jon, I recently had that EXACT same letter and feel the same as you do, that it should be illegal to send such threatening missives through the mail. Why don't the government help us oldies out with a FREE TV Licence?......oh wait a minute, that's what they used to do before the BBC got their grubby hands on it recently.......hmmmm! Come the revolution brothers. 😇
It's all designed to scare the timid people into continuing to be their cash 🐄💰cows
The Government was never helping you out with a free TV licence, it was the BBC. The Government then drastically reduced its subsidy to the BBC and the BBC stopped the licence subsidy to partially make up for it
So, as you can see, it was the Government that caused the TV licence subsidy to be ended
@@Bob_Burton If the government was paying the BBC a subsidy from tax payer's funds then I see that as them 'helping us out' with the licence fee. How can it be any other way round.
@@FreeSpirit44 Look at it how you like, but it was the Government that reduced the subsidy paid to the BBC
I had the debt collection company “Capquest” called me at 3:11 am this morning.
I struggled to get back to sleep and woke up fuming this morning.
Deliberately done by the looks of it, as what company calls you at 3:11am at any time of the year, never mind Christmas morning.
Only reason I know it’s them, is they called me on the 17th of this month at 10:30 in the morning and it’s the exact same number.
Who do I report these clowns to?
Merry Christmas by the way.
Hope you have a good one.
The police. That tactic is actually illegal, and they could have their company shut down for it.
@@iancampbell4984
I’ve took screenshots of the number and time of the call, so I’m gonna print it off and take it into my local police station after the holidays.
I’ve also saved the call on my phone.
I got a fright with the call, as my father has terminal cancer and my first thought was something had happened with him, due to the time of the call.
I’m not even owed any money, but they sent me a letter last week claiming I’m owe £2.5k to some credit card company called “Vanquis” who I paid in full 2 years ago and it was only one payment of £360 I was owed…I paid it in full within a month of using the card.
They have also sent me over 50 texts in the space of 9 days.
Mine was in a standard brown envelope this month. I'm kinda jealous
Lots of passion and a bit of anger in this one too!! I like this new Jon, keep it up!!
CJC - When they visit please film it - Have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and all of your subscribers. - Best wishes Clay.
Why are the elderly looked at being vulnerable. We're they always vulnerable throughout their lives?
I am 54 now, and I'd tell a TV goon at my door the same in 20 years' time as I would today. I don't see old age making me more gullible.
Vulnerable doesn't mean gullible.
Vulnerable: (of a person) in need of special care, support, or protection because of age, disability, or risk of abuse or neglect.
the bit about "so let us know".....thats how that catch people.....just dont reply, dont tell them anything.....they have NO details if you dont tell them anything
dont go online to them, dont do anything, they have NO powers to find ANY details about you
Absolutely correct.... I didn't even make a declaration 2 years ago. Just didn't pay the annual fee, ignored every letter. Had one visit at 8.45pm (during covid) and had no dialogue, just said 'not interested'. A further visit with a card saying I was out when in and just a monthly letter.
They NEED to get evidence, prevent it and there's nothing they can do.
The more people who realise this the more impossible the task.
STOP FEEDING THEM and their Capita employed commission sales staff on 20 quid a licence sale!!👍
Yep, we've had that nasty letter in the past. Still waiting for the visit.
Their webside is deliberately set up that the first 3 pages of links are trying to get you to buy a licence. It's only when you get to the 4th page that you can eventually tell them you don't need a licence.
My elderly wife and I genuinely don't watch live TV or ANYTHING to do with mainstream since 2020, we get and ignore these letters on a monthly basis,
Had this letter yesterday my sons hamster loves his new bedding
Well said let hope people will do it like you do great work
Well done Jon thanks for all your help we decided we don't need a TV tax
Top class video Jon! Loved the goon slap down on what they should expect from all of us. Mafiosi goonies!
Had my inoo32 letter for my cat litter tray. 70 years old and not vulnerable.
I guess I am due one of these letters soon Jon. I completely agree with you and the word EXTORTION comes to mind. Another great public service video. Happy Christmas!!!
guess what , am I bothered
Merry Christmas Jon, keep up the good work work....the more people that are made aware that there is nothing to be scared of if they genuinely don't need a licence, the better
Got one of these yesterday, in a gold coloured envelope. It said that "Because you have ignored our previous attempts to communicate with you, we are left with no option but to start our investigation. Your details have been passed to our Middlesbrough division. You can expect a visit anytime, day or night[...] Yatta, yatta, yatta.....".
Good luck with that one! - It's my dad's address. He been gone since fifteen years ago. No one lives there, and I'm sick of telling them so. I want them to come and see for themselves.
Expensive letter,well they have £3.7 billion to spunk up the wall every year,like the council ,spend it or lose it.
I phoned and officially cancelled our TV licence two years ago. I recently received a letter,addressed to me, saying if I still didn't require a licence I just had to let them know. That went straight in the bin. Never watch live TV or BBC. Never miss it.
Thanks Jon….let’s hope those afraid will see these letters in a different way….keep at it Chilli Jon and Happy New Year 👍🥂🎉
Hi Jon I have told over 100 friends & talk about your videos in shops i did play one of your videos in a shop & the 70 year old person said Thanks for your info keep fighting the sales prats as that is all they are & Merry Christmas
I had a very similar letter it's very simple tell them to f*** off,,
Always good when they send fuel for the fireplace. Helps with the cost of living crisis.
I'm on letter number 5 that I've put back into a letterbox with "Return to sender" written on it.
You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. You will still be threatened with the same 'investigation' if you tell them you don't need a licence.
I got one in an ordinary brown envelope so I'm a bit miffed. The silly thing is that they originally had my name but now it is addressed to 'the current occupier'! Ah well, I guess I don't exist anymore and look forward to them sending a goon around sometime in the next century.
i was so looking looking forward to my threatening letter, but to my dissapointment i realised the postmen were on strike.
Had a few of these threatening letters, badly worded stating I need a licence if I watch my Television, when in fact I can watch my TV all day long, without a license, as long as do not watch certain things. Which is not made clear in the letter.
I also had the visit from the "enforcement officer" who never even knocked on the door, just posted a very similar letter in the box and left. 🤣🤣
Very well said Jon- more and more of us are standing up to these thugs.
They always address letters to “the legal occupier” that I receive. I just never bother opening them. Years ago I did tell them I had no TV but the letters just kept on coming.
They even managed to insert their wokeness into an M.R. James ghost story broadcast last night, which made the whole thing ridiculous.
Did they? Which story?
I tried to get a refund of my tv licence and they made it incredibly difficult. In the end i gave up, which is what they want me to do.
I got £65 back ,I rang up to cancel,to be fair ,very quick and helpful.
I wrote and got a refund and a confirmation that I wouldn't be contacted for another 2 years. I have received a threatening letter every month since.
@@chrisplant7273 I've had same experience
You should be allowed to "SORN" your TV, as you can a motor vehicle.
Just got their lovely threatening letter. However, I have kept one of my extremely positive COVID tests. For them to have.
Yeah, but they'll be vaccinated, so they'll be safe, right?
@@douglasfreeman3229 Nope. I'm three times vaxed and still got it!
I played along once! Calling them and identify my self as the "Mr Present Occupier" and requested to schedule a visit of their agents within the next week's. It was great fun talking over 40 minutes to the idiots over the phone, demanding a visit. Try it when you're bored!
Get a Ring video doorbell; best thing I ever did. I never open the door to people I do not recognize. Watching these goons in their high-viz jackets and black clipboards "treading water" at your front door and pretending to enter data into their electronic "device" is highly entertaining. Just do not interact with them, ever.
Excellent advice. Say nothing, never disclose your name, and close the door (if you open it which you shouldn’t).
Got my one a month ago. Thought it was an early Christmas card lol. Folder of letters and they haven't turned up despite telling me a rough date for a visit. Apparently from the Essex office in Romford.
I wish I had one, I haven't had a threatening letter in weeks, what's wrong BBC? do I smell or something ?
I once told them I don't need a licence and they still visited my house TWICE in one year!! I don't tell them anything now. If they do visit, they get two words. The second word is off!!
The only reason they can get away with sending these threatening letters out is because no one has challenged them in court! Somebody with more nous than me needs to take them to court urgently.
You’ll know they mean business when Jane Jeffers gets involved 😅
Oh yes I've had the letters from Jane Jeffers lol
Loved what you said at the end about not being afraid and how some GOONS complain to RUclips. Well said Mr and Merry Christmas to you and all your loved ones, this goes for everyone else here too 🥰😍😘🤗
love your vids dude, you take away so much fear they dish out on a daily basis
"Please do not write below this line"
I ALWAYS write below the line telling them precisely what they can do with their letter for my own amusement before tossing the letter in the green bin.
Oh a big red envelope or fancy toilet paper. Chilli is a legend and his speech at the end to the BBC was class. As long as you're playing a legit game don't be afraid of these bullies. Literally everything I watch is streamed these days haven't watched broadcast TV in over two years but the BBC seem to find it hard to believe people can actually function without live TV. Keep up the fight Mr Chilli. Surly the internet with on-demand is rendering broadcast TV obsolete anyways. I admit I miss watching live sport sometimes but I just go down the pub and watch it there if it is a big game. Better than paying the fee and funding that lot any day.
Merry Christmas Jon...thanks for all the advice over the years.. x . Also if they don't know your name...they can't prosecute you either!! It's all intimidation! x
To be fair Chilli John Carne you did respond to their letter by make a a RUclips video on it but it’s not your problem if they don’t chose to subscribe to your Chanel and view it
Had one a while back, but I missed out on the red envelope this year 😭🤣
My sister doesn't use bbc or record etc and still insists on paying and gets nervous knowing i dont pay all cause they succeed in their intimidating my family always paid it i stopped when i left uni that was almost 20 years ago
Ive had a few of these and have been wondering whats the idea of sending this letter in a red instead of the usual white or light brown envelope?
Do they think it scares people into paying up? 😄
They’re trying to emulate letters that other firms chasing bad debts send out with red ink in the heading. “ This is your last chance, it’s court action next”……completely ignoring the fact that we don’t owe them any money. W⚓️s.
I've heard the DVLA are going to start sending out letters saying you MUST have a driving license or face a fine?? Only joking, but its the same sort of thing... Merry Christmas Jon..
I totally agree with you I'm not scared straight in the shredder waste of a tree
Thanks for the great vids, I love the red letters, always think it’s a love letter 💌
We have a sign on our door which reads as follows: "Notice: Please do not try to sell us anything at the door as we hate telling strangers to bollocks. Thank you.".
It works for everyone, unless they genuinely can't read.
I’ve had one too,their full of Shite,if they think for one minute they will intimidate me their more stupid than I thought they were,these threats are meaningless because they NEVER turn up and if they they do they might not get the result they came for.
Merry Christmas Chilli 🎉
Love it Jon💯 I hope people are listening.
Tell them you haven't got a fishing licence for the same reason why you have no TV licence. You don't need one.
I love the; “I don’t have to write to Netflix to tell them you don’t need their service.”
The sooner the last person cancels their tv licence the better.
Merry Christmas to you and your family
Great if you could get say, a CD of the Eastenders theme tune and play it loudly as you say you don't need a license.
It takes me hours to get home from work. I stop at every private business to tell them I do not want to buy from or use their services. 😜
One time I went on holiday and came back to find my house had been extended, stupidly I forgot to inform the local builders I didn't want an extension.
You should send them a 'no licence declaration' with mr Santa Claus
Great Video m8!! Been getting the letters, even though I don't have any TV equipment in my flat!!
I got one of these lovely red letters a couple of months ago lol, what a waste of nice red envelopes!
Older people that have always been used to having a TV 📺 and used to watch live TV 📺 always bought a license but nowadays can't afford a lot of food, heating or a lot of anything are going to be forced into buying a license even though they decided not to watch live TV.
I haven't watched live TV for the last 3 years as its all doom and gloom on the news.
If they come round I will ask for proof of who they are and when they show me I will laugh and say no o don't require a TV license and close the door with a smile. 😁
I got one of those just before Xmas.
My sons fiancee was more scared by it than me ! I SAID I had already phoned them three times to say I didn't need one. BUT to settle her mind, I phoned again, and told the man I had already told them I DID NOT watch live TV or sport and hate the BBC so do not watch it. He said he'd make a note of it but they might phone again in a month or so just to make sure "I still don't need one" I said - well that will not change.
They are so STUPID !!!!
HNY to you Jon, keep these coming for those that may not know how to deal with these goons!
They also send threatening/intimidating letters in GREEN envelopes as well as the red ones! I wonder what would happen if you sent similar sounding letters to your MP? I bet you'd get a visit from the police yet Capita/TV Licensing get away with it.
And another thing, if your TV is still plugged into the aerial, and your TV is off, if you let them in, and they see so, how can they prove that you watch live tv? - Just because it's plugged in?
If you let them in you are agreeing to them checking your TV , Don’t let them in ,
@@derektaylor7844 as i said, if tv is plugged into aerial and NOT switched on, how can they prove that u watch live tv?
I send it right back Return to Sender..
Got my December one on 23rd as well. Wasn't the one you go through in this video though it was the stupid "your case" one with some reference number in a little window in a brown envelope. Did the same as all the others... fed the shredder! 😊
I have printed out and laminated a legal notice removing their right to step foot on my property (I found several versions of this online easily) and have actually been dying for them to knock on the door so I can use it (as I don't wish to write to them giving my name - perfectly happy to stay as Sir/Madam/present occupier) but despite a veritable deluge of increasingly threatening letters, including this one most recently, they STILL haven't actually done so. I agree entirely with your point that we don't need to inform netflix/sky/virgin etc that we don't want to buy their service so why is this harassment legal?
It's a scam! The first sign of a scam is that it demands an immediate response! Always the first sign of a SCAM!
Merry Christmas. God Bless.
I don't have a TV (because I don't want one) or watch Broadcast TV Live or Recorded. If I answer the door my Comment will be simple not required without giving name or reason, if they obtain a search warrant then I will ask a simple question where is your proof I have been watching, then file a counter claim for Harassment against the BBC, with using the Police Officers as witnesses stating no devices watch Broadcast TV, so the evidence provided for search warrant would have been falsely obtained.
Unless reading epubs or Netflix on my mobile phone or laptop is against the BBC requirements but neither are Broadcast TV or Live so a TV Licence is not required under the current guidelines and in addition under the old rules I would not require a TV Licence as I don't have Equipment capable of receiving and that includes the mobile Phone and/or computers if software is not embedded on your device. Otherwise if having a computer (without software) every single office, company would need a TV Licence, so would be political suicide for BBC and sitting government and very expensive court cases no doubt.