What happens if you wrap ballistic gel in CHICKEN WIRE?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- When ballistic gel is hit with a bullet, the gel will expand outwards very quickly. You really can't see it without the aid of a high speed camera. We got quite a few ideas from viewers of different materials to wrap the gel in and show the energy. We also compare two different types of slugs in the process.
Now the clay block needs this same testing. I think the clay block would provide a very aesthetically pleasing view through a few different wraps chicken wire especially.
If you’re going to do a clay block, you need to wrap it in 1/4” hardware cloth (steel mesh) and see if it makes high-speed clay french fries.
YES!!!!!
yes!
@Gremlin - I concur, thumb-ing this up in hopes that it will happen.
This could make a great video, although I'm not sure what all you could wrap it in. Just different sizes of fencing and mesh?
The chicken wire was definitely the coolest slow motion shot. Neat trick with the clear tale too! Taught me something.
"There's a reason no ones done this before, it's dangerous."
"It's dumb."
"It's a dumb idea"
Ok, let's get started. I come for the ballistics. I stay for the chuckles. Great as always gents.
lol thanks Pablo
@@taofledermaus Scott blowing himself up with the Serbu 50 was dumb. This was rather cool to watch. Thanks Jeff and crew!
@@droidnick It wasn't his fault he got an overloaded cartridge. He was hit by misfortune, yet was lucky and survived.
Calling a freak accident's victim dumb when they made no mistake is the dumb thing here.
@@Ironpine27 After the one before it barely spat the bullet out and it skipped along the ground in front of the target, _carrying on_ was dumb.
@@Ironpine27 I did some research, that particular round was for a particular rifle. Kind of like firing a 5.56 through a .223 rifle, doesn't work.
Right on, boys. I've always wondered how the hydrostatic shock would deal with things like that. You know how ballistic gel dances around when it gets a good hit. Awesome stuff. Thank you for churning out more great content. 🤙🏾
thank you !!
Just take it from the SloMo Guys: A lab coat and safety glasses makes everything a science experiment!
Write down your results, that’s science.
🤔 @@john-paulsilke893 Shall I edit my sarcastic comment to appease your sensibilities?
GarandThumb agrees
I can't say that I'm not somewhat disappointed. I read the title too quickly, and I thought this was going to show what happens to ballistics gel in MY pants. Oh, well.
@@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 you just did you magnificent scientist. I’ll be sending your white lab coat via Passenger Pidgin tomorrow.
If you want to keep the gel block on the table, Target Suite has found an answer. 3 to 4 inches of cushion foam under the block will keep the block on the table. He also determined that applying tape to the top for abrasion resistance doesn't really help because it absorbs heat and the block gets sticky on the bottom.
Or they could just put a tarpaulin under the table instead of sand...
They could put a big ass piece of Velcro on it also.
Or they could strap it to the table
Awesome. I wouldn't mind some more courses from the TFM School of Ballistics and Jack-assery!
Being a fully qualified jackass, I'm very much interested in a course I could waste half my time in.
Best gell tests yet. That's some great science guys. By the way officer Gregg, thank you for your extra effort getting hold of me for that bear creek arsenal 22lr give away. I've put about 100 rounds through it so far and I love it. I'll try to put it on video when I shoot it next and send you a copy. Thanks again!
Cool! Thanks Randy. Very glad you ended up getting that. They went liking for a second winner when they couldn’t reach you. 😬
I've learned so much from your experience with slugs I'm 64 and I retired from the military , 14 teen combat misson , you guys are giving so much knowledge to the ones that care , don't let the dumass people stop what you are doing , thank you so much truly
Thank you for your service Ray.
Ray Hall you must mean the demoncrats
Welcome home, brother.
Pretty darn interesting. I'm definitely trying the clear over fuzzy to see if it works. Got a finger wiggle on this one too, that always makes me smile. Thanks again for the content
The wrapped gel comparisons are really interesting and entertaining. Thanks, TFM. It's disappointing that you edited out the "Gel Wellington" (with a puff pastry wrap) segment, and I haven't been able to find my other pair of jeans. (In retrospect, it was a bad idea to show OG where my house key is hidden.)
Glad to see the experimental wraps! I was hoping for the plastic wrap they use at warehouses to hold the boxes on pallets. I think it is a little tougher/thicker than Saran wrap? Also I was hoping you would at least try one time to wrap it around the gel block and table, but that goes against tradition I know! I have some duct tape that is super strong and you can't tear it by hand it has to be cut. I think it has nylon or glass fibers in it. Thanks for going to the trouble to satisfy our needs!!
My mom used to say you cant even please some people with a pleasing machine.
Wrapping it around the table might destroy the table. I noticed one of the boards raising up on a shot or two in the slow motion replays. It would make for a fun show but likely would end it there.
@@Stevie-J I know the stuff, and it's slightly sticky on one side so you can wrap your pallet top to bottom, sticky side out, then twist it and wrap again bottom to top, sticky side in, and get a single piece plastic sheet that's an exact fit and not sticky anywhere. Then some mug comes along and hauls the edge down to tuck the end in, and part of your pallet of good is no longer wrapped, because eejits gonna eej. Lift the bottom of the last turn around the top layer of goods and fold the end up under that for a nicer result.
Yeah, I thought the wraps were meant to tie the block to the table... a good show either way
I hated using that wrap, if you didn't cut it all the way it got all stringy and caught in the pallet jack wheels and shit, and my coworkers were horrible at cutting it
The glue of the sticky tape has the same reflective index as the gel, so it fills the imperfections on the surface of the gel, allowing the light in instead of diffusing on the surface and making it more visible
Clear tape on the gel in the future seems like a good idea. Decreasing the amount of crude on the outside of the gel and nice view enhancement.
I think it would also keep some of that dust off the block, or make it easier to wipe off anyways when it flies off the table
yeah even just lengthwise and leave the corners so it can still expand, at the very least just one layer on the high speed side
Laying a tarp under the table would stop it getting covered in dirt if it goes off the table too.
Just as a comparison, wrap the gel block in 1/2 inch galvanized hardware cloth, as we don't use chicken wire for our chicken coop, because it does not keep critters out, and is weak. 1/2 inch hardware cloth is stronger and keeps out the critters, but the drawback is OG can't get any of his digits through it.
Chicken wire is only good for keeping the chickens from getting out. It won't stop a coyote or a bobcat getting in.
@@CS-zn6pp that is why coop, every night. They are happy to go, makes them feel safe.
Thank you Jeff and Jeff and O.G.! This was another awesome video guys, puts so much speculation to rest. Keep up the good work!
Great stuff. Well done. Thank you all & thank you Terry for supply of slugs. Great results.
thank yoU!
Good man Terry!
Im glad to see jeff back on the show. I hope to see more of him.
Pressure inject the wound cavity with a dark dye to highlight the path, it will reveal some surprises.
Guest shooter Jeff’s one-liners are spot-on!!! 👍🏼😂🤣😂
That was amazing how the clear tape on the gel actually gave a better view. Haven`t seen the OG finger wiggle in awhile. Also the chicken wire was cool also. Did it cut the gel? Thanks to the viewer for the ammo. Jeff, Jeff and OG, Stay safe, God Bless. Until next time.
Cool experiment. Another channel found that putting the gel onto cushion type foam . This seems to work well at helping control the gel placement.
Just curious.Which channel was this???
@@pebo8306 target suite
@@larryalexander4833 Thank's!👍
So what happens if you put it on a swing? If you know the weight of the block and swing you could also calculate energy dump based on how far the block swings. So basically a new version of a ballistic pendulum.
Thanks for sharing buddy I love watching you guys shoot stuff I’m not picky about what or all that it’s awesome just seeing it lol but I grew up eating what mom put on the table and if I didn’t like it I still ate it and told her how delicious it was lol
It's incredible to me that this channel manages to find so many "hosts" that are both personable and have interesting things to add. Most channels struggle to find one.
So cool you used my idea for seran wrap, it worked pretty much as I expected that it stretched. What surprised me that it exceeded to stetch memory of the seran wrap.
It's great how Guest Jeff fits right in with you two.
You might get the best results on the packing tape by not overlapping it and running the strips longitudinally on the block.
I found this interesting for sure. Well done guys.
thank you!
I like the new Jeff! He's a good addition to the show.
I like the brief science explanations! Reminds me of the early days of your channel.
The FNG is good too! And certainly a good shot.
I love Scientist Jeff, this is the first video i’ve seen with him and i love what he adds to the show. Scientist Jeff’s seriousness with Gregg’s goofiness, and Camera Jeff able to bounce between them makes for a great video!
thanks Randy
Really amazing video, as always. Thanks for the lesson.
I think the clear tape needs to have a permanent place in your gel block kit. What a cool series of tests.
the duct tape tearing was a great visualization of exactly how much expansion there is and where it occurs. that was unexpected
The new Jeff and Greg are so darn similar The hardly know how to act around each other!😆
Love y'all and thank you again for another neat and unique video.
Our pleasure!
Very original ballistic gel video, it was fun to watch!
that makes me happy!
It is true what ya said near the end of the video. When you start running low on content, your viewers can, and will always be a great source of inspiration.
I agree!!
You ought to try wrapping it in shrink wrap, the stuff they use to wrap boxes in warehouses and shipping receiving. Just make sure you stretch it properly when (if) you do, so it retains its strength
We did that. The cellophane wrap was the same stuff.
@@OGsDangerShow ...oh
Yeah I knew that. I just wanted...to make sure you...knew...that. which you did. Obviously...
I'll see myself out
Especially if it is the same length as the block. Might have to try that.
Wrapping the ballistic gel really illustrates how much energy it absorbs. That energy has go to go somewhere, and even with the chicken wire, the gel pushes through the little holes in it. The videos on this channel are always interesting.
thanks Alex
Is that a block of gel in your pants or are you just happy to see us?
Liking the new guest, Terry and Gregg look like 2 friends having loads of fun.
I love when you guys go sciencing! Top notch jack assery!
thanks Jeff
@@taofledermaus Dang how many of ya are there?
Jeff, you are a man among men!
You are ability to keep the camera steady when Gregg starts talking about men's thighs is remarkable!
Please, keep up the good work.
Gregg's Insurance should pay for counseling and medication!
M
lol thanks!
It was really interesting to find out that common denim can potentially prevent slug expansion.
I was thinking this as well. Got me to thinking what would happen at higher water pressures, deep under water.
Also don't down yourself, I love to hear how you modify the shot, your hypothesis on its reaction and the math behind everything. It's your channel and you should be able to explain each round. I've learned so much from you and you alone Jeff, so don't cut yourself short. If they dont wanna hear the information you give they can skip through, but don't take away from the people that love to hear the education you and your channel provide. You shouldn't be silenced in your own videos.
TFM Jeff and Greg, thank you again for having me on your video. Another great time.
I will make sure to stop in next time I’m in the area.
Awesome shooting, sir. Ping us when you’re in the area and we’ll get you back on the gun.
Hey fellas, next time, we should lay out a tarp and,,,,, strap the block to the table. The people have spoken.
Any time! It was a pleasure working with you
I dunno guys - at this point, I just enjoy the "visit" as much as anything with these folks.
Unique experiments, presented by guys who don't have a "character" to portray or a persona to sell....
Just good people, the TFM family.
Thanks as always from the Unauthorized Southern Command,
- Ed on the Ridge
Thanks Ed. Always good to hear from you.
Hey Jeff I'm still stuck on the anti obturation orbs in the slugs base. Shouldn't it be guttapercha? Containing the expanse of energy with various materials was impressive. Thanks Taofledermaus crew for the applied science.
Thanks for the very interesting presentation. The power of the expansion of the gel block was simply amazing. I've never seen anyone do this before.
thank you!! Trying to come up with original stuff instead of copying other channels is what we try to do!
Awesome video! Would love to see 1/4" and 1/2" wire hardware cloth if you ever revisit this. Good stuff guys.
Federal's "tactical" hollow point slugs are pretty good.
Very consistent and pretty accurate.
Can definitely recommend them.
Gettin a little homoerotic with Brandon there Jeff. 😂😂😂😂
Remember, you can't spell homoerotic... without 'erotic' 😉
Thanks so much for yet another fine example of inspired idiocy. My inner 12-year-old heartily approves.
I like how OG felt the need to let us know that he doesn't really massage men's legs..
There's a lot of dumb stuff in a general public forum but there's some genius sometimes from pure enthusiasts and nerds in every industry that is sometimes worth the headache of going through the noise.
Kudos Jeff for seeing that 👍🤘
Hey Jeff, could you try shooting a gel block that’s hanging on a line? It would take two lines to keep if facing lengthwise, but if you’re willing to shoot it from the side like this video I think the bouncing and swinging we’d see when it’s hanging from a single line would be the most interesting.
A valid scientific experiment that needs to be published in the appropriate journals. I agree that you should consider wrapping the gel block permanently.
I'm very surprised OG didn't make a double entendra after asking if the denim could contain an explosion of gel.
That WAS the double entendre
Hey Jeff & OG…… you guys are so down to earth!! This was very educational!! Thank you!! 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Would be fun to have a board with lines on it so we could see how high the block jumps.
Jeff,Jeff,Brandon and Greg y'all rock! Love the channel and content! I'm here for the algorithm! Peace
thanks Benjamin
As soon as I read the title I felt like a fool for never before wondering what ballistic gelatin would look like in pants.
I didn't even get to wondering what it would look like. I got stuck on what it would feel like. Then I wondered if it would reduce chafing working in the heat this summer. But I figure sticking with petroleum jelly would just be more practical.
I love how the gel squishes out through the chicken wire. Fun. I'm sure OG knows this but chicken wire is just the ticket if you have to dump a body at sea. It keeps body parts from getting chewed off and floating to shore. Crabs appreciate chicken wire.
I just exploded gel watching OG massage the denim.🤪
Hahahahah, those sneaky wiggling finger peeks out of the bullet bored holes kill me. You guys are awesome. Thank you
thank you!!
Big explosion of gel was my nickname in medical school.
Gregg really needs to write a book of his ‘sayings’ and quotes! I laugh out loud at most of his gems, including when he says “….that was the name of a band that I started, in the mid eighties”.
Would be interested to see what it would do inside a thin sheet metal box, to see how the metal deformed
WhooooooHoooooo it's me late Steve......Thanks Jeff Jeff & Gregg...Saw the lead plate and thinking about Danny (Red) May God rest his Soul Thanks guy's....Something a little different 👍....Shoe🇺🇸
great content, as always!
thanks Wade
Youre welcome..I think it's so awesome that you guys, not only read the comments generated by your content, but you interact and respond to them (us). Thanks for being positive rolemodels in a world full of negativity. Keep up the good work!
Leson learned. Wrap in cellophane and wire. Good to know. Love watching you guys.
Weird, the Federal Tactical slugs that I have are 1600fps high brass 1 oz. There's a noticeable difference in the recoil and impact when fired. I don't believe they say "Law Enforcement" on them, I'll check.
My Saiga 12 loves them.
They make a lot of variants
@@taofledermaus True enough. Mine are Federal "Premium" Tactical Slugs. Trueball, and they do say "Law Enforcement" on the box and claim 1600 fps.
Always enjoy your vids, keep up the good work!
That small "TrueBall " certainly had a positive affect on the expansion of those slugs, and the rebound from Kevlar and back off again from the back of the block was illustrated perfectly from the super slo mo footage . but most surprising was the effect wrapping clear tape around the block , the clarity was enhanced considerably and the block was not to far off that of a brand new block , if You pause at 11:03 you can see the tail end of the temporary cavity clearly through the tape and a huge bubble ahead of it which looks like it will explode out of the back of the block . Jeff is fitting in nicely with a decent sense of humour and a decent eye for a target and good aim and the banter between the three of You is infectious . The chicken wire was exactly as Jeff ( this could get confusing !?) described it and very similar to a corn cob ,Finally here's an idea You've probably already thought of . how about putting a single wrap of tape on the block and then wrapping it with chicken wire, - just a thought .
Thanks Guys & as always I enjoyed this one , Shoot Straight Stay Safe & Well .
I was going to suggest calling it Tactical Chicken Wire..... but, it ripped, so... that's not very tactical at the end of the day :P
However, I demand my money back! I was expecting the last shot to be jeans wrapped in cellophane, wrapped in duck tape, wrapped in packaging tape, wrapped in chicken wire! 😠
😁
I’m not a hunter, gun hobbiest or self defense worrier. I’m just a little old man living in the country, but I find these videos very interesting. Further, I miss Danny and suspect he’s out there floating on the breeze, looking over you guys.
😎👍 Thanks for watching.
Hmm. Neither Greg mentioned whether it felt just like a man's thigh wrapped in chicken wire.
Another fun yet informative video. Thanks to Terry McDade for supplying the ammo. And I enjoy the guest shooter.
thanks Nelson!
if you do it again you should shoot some holes in the jeans first to see if gel expands through the holes before ripping the fabric. loved this one!
0:48 loool OG cracking me up already 🤣😂🤣
That shot with the chicken wire was beyond cool. 🤘😎🤘
OG... squeeze the pantleg once was weird but humorous, groping that bad boy was just hilarious.
Thanks for the table top breakdown it was cool to see some factory slugs.
Man-O-man ... you guys never let me down! Awesome vid ...
thank you very much!
Great show guys. Watching this was a lot of fun and it was very informative. The force it took to break that chicken wire was awesome to see.
Jeff another magical episode and Greg as usual right on point
thanks Eric
You guys nailed it as always never get tired of watching your channel! Keep up the great work!
thank you Bob!
@ 17:28........
Jeff: "Did you learn anything?"
OG: "I hope not."
Mission: ACCOMPLISHED.
Jeff, OG and OJ (Other Jeff). You did a cool job here 👏👏👏
Great Shooting, Alaska Jeff. I live in the Matsu. You have represented us well, Sir.
great demonstration on hydrodynamics and elasticity
Thank you!
Really good video giving good information to those who are concerned about slug performance.
For future reference may I suggest that you wrap the gel with clear packing tape and chicken wire., the clear wrapping tape will give clear evidence of bullet performance, and the chicken wire will contain it all. This information is gathered from your great video. Thank you!
Officer Greg did his nails! Looking noice!! Great vid guys!
Great video and concept! Testing all the silly ideas to protect the gel block and also confirming the usefullness of clear tape, very good~
Wrap it in 24 inches thick of solid lead, to keep the bullets from marking up the ballistic gel.
Also, try shooting in the opposite direction, to insure the bullets don't hit the targets.
That helps keep the targets in good condition.
The constrainment of the gel made for me anyway, the biggest surprises.
Great video, I love watching the ones with the random experiments.
thanks Peter!
It's good to see Dr Jeff back on 👍
This was definitely a unique video. I think they might've wanted you to wrap the plastic wrap around the gel block & the table, but other than that, awesome video. Never seen anyone do anything like this!
Oh man this is freaking genius! This is where the High Speed camera really shines!!!
thanks!
You can also lightly/quickly pass the flame from a propane torch over the gel to make it very clear.
If only we had a propane torch out there in the field. 🤔
I usually will use a heat gun to gloss it over. The biggest problem is every time you touch it, it leaves finger prints, any dust in the air sticks to it. So it never looks great once we get out there.
I have had ballistic issues in my jeans in the past, but no gel tho, no gel. This helps me in ways you may not understand