Great review. Just got a pair yesterday. Air pod feels weird. I did some 3 point starts and I can say without a doubt the stiffness helped my starts, which is my weak area. Have to test more.
It's certainly a different feeling for sure. But mostly positive and I thought they were quite comfortable. Keep us updated on your progress and experiences.
This is the best Spike review that I have seen!! Awesome job. I like that you had your son try them out as well. And I was laughing when he said it was a cheat code. I definitely like the channel I am 42 years old and I have been coaching for 21 years and I still compete from time to time I love the other videos as well
Thank you kindly! The older athletes that I train also like these new spikes because they are more comfortable on ground impact. The proprietary foam makes the ground contacts more bouncy and less jarring than conventional spring spikes.
I always raced in the Nike Ja. I then picked up a cheap pair of Rivals for training a few years back. This entry level spike grew on me, and I actually ended up running a 10m fly PB in them at age 36. The new technology is intriguing, but the Rival is great spike for the price. I competed in them this spring and consistently ran 11.0-11.1 at age 38.
@@ryanbowman4799 Thank you, Ryan! The season was heading the right direction until I suffered a severe hamstring injury in a 200m race. Those times came during cold Wisconsin days. Guys I beat ended up going 10.8-10.9 once the weather got better. My training suggested sub-11 was in the queue. Onto 2023.
@@tracktuary im sorry to hear that ive been suffering with lower back and hup issues for a year now at 15 but just had labral repair surgery and am optimistic to return to iutdorr track for the firts time in two years😁
Just watched this as o bought these recently for my open meets. Im 38 and ran my first open on Sunday. But hopefully these shoes can help me get over my hatred for 200m. I appreciate the review from the Uk.
I believe the longer the sprint (200 or 400m) the more benefit you will get from the shoes creating a rebound effect, as opposed to your fatiguing muscles providing all of the elasticity. I'll be curious to see how it feels in your longer sprint races and training sessions.
Hi, wanted to update my last comment. Unfortunatly im still recovering from an injury but i tried the maxfly, i can say they help in the last part of the race, feeling like they give you a bit of extra energy in the last part. Im not at 100% right now, so there is more to find, i'll be back in some weeks!
I noticed that no one of the pro sprinters is using the last model of the maxfly (the white and red) they are still using this green version, do you know why? Is it better?
I'm not certain which model came out first. I know the Volt/Orange version seems to be the only ones available currently - albeit in minimal sizes. The white and red are no where to be found. Unless a pro athlete sponsored by Nike has a direct pipeline to inventory. But in any event, it seems these spikes are scarce and hard to find currently.
Would the air bubble not absorb some of the force on ground contact, and some of the force created by the athlete? Or does the carbon fibre plate stop that? Do you have any follow up thoughts? I greatly appreciate the video and your investment on the spikes for this review! 🤜🤛
My sense of it is that the air bubble combines with the carbon fibre plate to create a spring-board-like effect that bounces the athlete off the ground. The problems seem to arise from the durability of the air bladder system, as I've heard that there have been a significant number of cases where the air bladder has ruptured. I will say that the air bladder system does make impacts feel more comfortable (less sharp impact on ground contact). The question would be, can this system be tuned so that it provides a stiffer ground contact for shorter sprint distances.
@@DerekMHansen thanks for the response 🤝 I've also come across a lot of worries about durability. Do you see many professional athletes using the spikes?
@@seamusmccartney5872 I have a number of athletes using them. So far so good. They all like the fact that the spikes are pretty comfortable and soften the impact. We'll see how they last.
Doesn't really matter as you can see if you are good you are good , There is adidas athletes that have the sprint sp and still run fast But I wonder if adidas is gonna finally update the prime sp that things been out since 2010 commercially Always advantages and disadvantages Ronnie baker ran fast without that spike , ran faster with it switch to adidas and didn't look the same said on rae take the spikes had something to do with it But I also think the disadvantages example he ran 6.40 in the superflys before these never ran as fast indoor again
@@endlesswaltz740 The next few years will be interesting as shoe companies continue to fiddle with the technology and refine it further. And, it doesn't look like the IAAF is going to intervene anytime soon.
@@DerekMHansen I know its gonna crazy crazy 🤯🤯😎 I still think the energy system and training will get better performances And now like beautifully said with those new tech and tracks and stupid fast like eugene Will add some but not crazy crazy , you know if there's a scientific report on sprinters improvements with those nike spikes ??
Hi im still here, i just got the maxfly and i have maybe a problem. They feel very tight in the sides, like the toes are fine even a very little space before touching the spikes at the end, but before the toes they feel very tight at the sides, i wear them even with no socks. Do you think its fine? Or its too tight and i should change the size?
I think you want them to be snug on the sides, but not excessively tight. If you can find a half size up, you may want to try to get those. I'm not sure how much the upper will stretch over time.
@@DerekMHansen Its gonna be very hard to find another size, but yeah, should have bought like 2 sizes and see what was better. Maybe also they can stretch just a bit? Since the length of the spikes is perfect... i noticed also that my pegasus are 26 cm, and the maxfly are 26.5cm so its weird they feel tight
@@SunOmega You might be okay after wearing them a few times. Might stretch just enough to provide comfort. At least you know you won't be sliding around in them. Have you tried lacing them a bit differently?
@@DerekMHansen Yeah i can also say that i don't feel pain when i wear them, just as i said a bit tight in the sides. Anyway i still didn't try them in track since i got them just few hours ago, and what do you mean about lacing them differently? Like lacing in a way they are larger/soft? If so yes i was still trying, maybe i should do it even more i guess
@@SunOmega Once you hit the track and start moving with some force, they'll be fine. Wasn't aware that you hadn't tried them on the track. Walking around in them is different. You'll be fine.
I've wondered about that as well, as the spikes place the foot higher off the ground than conventional spikes and could potentially be less stable on touch-down. I'm sure we'll hear more about this as more athletes use the spikes in various events.
I would say so, I’ve used maxfly’s for a while now and previously raced in the airzoom victory’s. Both are high quality, id say maxflys give u more stability and a little more pop tho
I haven't heard of that locally, but it would depend on the local school district or local meet organizers. As these shoes are quite expensive, I could see them being perceived to be an unfair advantage not accessible to all competitors.
Those were some good spikes. I also liked Mizuno spikes back in the day. Not sure what they are offering these days to compete with the Nike MaxFly line.
started wearing the Superfly R4's back in the day, honestly, the rivals worked better for me. While I liked that the superflys were lighter than the rivals, they were so stiff I had achilles tendinitis after a few years, that got so bad, I had to be in a boot. Currently sprinting unattached as a 25 yr old working full time, and the rivals treat my feet a lil better
I've been hearing that a lot Dave. Achilles and foot issues in the newer spikes because of the stiffness (carbon plates). It's something to watch out for moving forward. I have suggested using a Rival for training and only using the newer generation of spike for competition with a few athletes who have had foot and achilles pain.
That's a good question. I have my athletes use these shoes primarily for competition, with some use for maximal runs in training. I figure it's a volume and wear-and-tear issue. We also limit use in wet weather, as I figure getting the shoes wet frequently can also create degradation with the materials over time.
I bought my son's Nike airmax spikes in February and it's a very good spike and very stiff...but he only competes in it and nit train in it..the airpods on both spikes popped...that's not good quality spikes..ther is a couple of athletes that I no that airpods popped...and one athletes plate on his spikes broke in half...no good quality but good for sprinting...
These days it may come down to supply chain issues. I'm still waiting on an order for a DJI product (China) that I made in December 2021 and I'm constantly being told it is a supply chain problem from the manufacturer.
Great review. Just got a pair yesterday. Air pod feels weird. I did some 3 point starts and I can say without a doubt the stiffness helped my starts, which is my weak area. Have to test more.
It's certainly a different feeling for sure. But mostly positive and I thought they were quite comfortable. Keep us updated on your progress and experiences.
This is the best Spike review that I have seen!! Awesome job. I like that you had your son try them out as well. And I was laughing when he said it was a cheat code. I definitely like the channel I am 42 years old and I have been coaching for 21 years and I still compete from time to time I love the other videos as well
Thank you kindly! The older athletes that I train also like these new spikes because they are more comfortable on ground impact. The proprietary foam makes the ground contacts more bouncy and less jarring than conventional spring spikes.
I always raced in the Nike Ja. I then picked up a cheap pair of Rivals for training a few years back. This entry level spike grew on me, and I actually ended up running a 10m fly PB in them at age 36. The new technology is intriguing, but the Rival is great spike for the price. I competed in them this spring and consistently ran 11.0-11.1 at age 38.
Wow thats amazing at that age
@@ryanbowman4799 Thank you, Ryan! The season was heading the right direction until I suffered a severe hamstring injury in a 200m race. Those times came during cold Wisconsin days. Guys I beat ended up going 10.8-10.9 once the weather got better. My training suggested sub-11 was in the queue. Onto 2023.
@@tracktuary im sorry to hear that ive been suffering with lower back and hup issues for a year now at 15 but just had labral repair surgery and am optimistic to return to iutdorr track for the firts time in two years😁
Awesome job!!!
Just watched this as o bought these recently for my open meets. Im 38 and ran my first open on Sunday. But hopefully these shoes can help me get over my hatred for 200m. I appreciate the review from the Uk.
I believe the longer the sprint (200 or 400m) the more benefit you will get from the shoes creating a rebound effect, as opposed to your fatiguing muscles providing all of the elasticity. I'll be curious to see how it feels in your longer sprint races and training sessions.
i popped one side of my bubble 3 weeks ago and i’ve been breaking my pr every since🤷🏾♂️
Hi, wanted to update my last comment.
Unfortunatly im still recovering from an injury but i tried the maxfly, i can say they help in the last part of the race, feeling like they give you a bit of extra energy in the last part.
Im not at 100% right now, so there is more to find, i'll be back in some weeks!
I noticed that no one of the pro sprinters is using the last model of the maxfly (the white and red) they are still using this green version, do you know why? Is it better?
I'm not certain which model came out first. I know the Volt/Orange version seems to be the only ones available currently - albeit in minimal sizes. The white and red are no where to be found. Unless a pro athlete sponsored by Nike has a direct pipeline to inventory. But in any event, it seems these spikes are scarce and hard to find currently.
Would the air bubble not absorb some of the force on ground contact, and some of the force created by the athlete? Or does the carbon fibre plate stop that?
Do you have any follow up thoughts?
I greatly appreciate the video and your investment on the spikes for this review! 🤜🤛
My sense of it is that the air bubble combines with the carbon fibre plate to create a spring-board-like effect that bounces the athlete off the ground. The problems seem to arise from the durability of the air bladder system, as I've heard that there have been a significant number of cases where the air bladder has ruptured. I will say that the air bladder system does make impacts feel more comfortable (less sharp impact on ground contact). The question would be, can this system be tuned so that it provides a stiffer ground contact for shorter sprint distances.
@@DerekMHansen thanks for the response 🤝 I've also come across a lot of worries about durability. Do you see many professional athletes using the spikes?
@@seamusmccartney5872 I have a number of athletes using them. So far so good. They all like the fact that the spikes are pretty comfortable and soften the impact. We'll see how they last.
Derek's son: "Feels like a cheat code" Nike: yep!
I like the fact he's honest! LOL!
Doesn't really matter as you can see if you are good you are good ,
There is adidas athletes that have the sprint sp and still run fast
But I wonder if adidas is gonna finally update the prime sp that things been out since 2010 commercially
Always advantages and disadvantages
Ronnie baker ran fast without that spike , ran faster with it switch to adidas and didn't look the same said on rae take the spikes had something to do with it
But I also think the disadvantages example he ran 6.40 in the superflys before these never ran as fast indoor again
@@endlesswaltz740 The next few years will be interesting as shoe companies continue to fiddle with the technology and refine it further. And, it doesn't look like the IAAF is going to intervene anytime soon.
@@DerekMHansen I know its gonna crazy crazy 🤯🤯😎
I still think the energy system and training will get better performances
And now like beautifully said with those new tech and tracks and stupid fast like eugene
Will add some but not crazy crazy , you know if there's a scientific report on sprinters improvements with those nike spikes ??
@@endlesswaltz740 Well that will be the big question. Will people rely too much on the tech, and miss the subtleties of proper training?
Hi im still here, i just got the maxfly and i have maybe a problem.
They feel very tight in the sides, like the toes are fine even a very little space before touching the spikes at the end, but before the toes they feel very tight at the sides, i wear them even with no socks.
Do you think its fine? Or its too tight and i should change the size?
I think you want them to be snug on the sides, but not excessively tight. If you can find a half size up, you may want to try to get those. I'm not sure how much the upper will stretch over time.
@@DerekMHansen Its gonna be very hard to find another size, but yeah, should have bought like 2 sizes and see what was better.
Maybe also they can stretch just a bit? Since the length of the spikes is perfect... i noticed also that my pegasus are 26 cm, and the maxfly are 26.5cm so its weird they feel tight
@@SunOmega You might be okay after wearing them a few times. Might stretch just enough to provide comfort. At least you know you won't be sliding around in them. Have you tried lacing them a bit differently?
@@DerekMHansen Yeah i can also say that i don't feel pain when i wear them, just as i said a bit tight in the sides.
Anyway i still didn't try them in track since i got them just few hours ago, and what do you mean about lacing them differently? Like lacing in a way they are larger/soft? If so yes i was still trying, maybe i should do it even more i guess
@@SunOmega Once you hit the track and start moving with some force, they'll be fine. Wasn't aware that you hadn't tried them on the track. Walking around in them is different. You'll be fine.
Any comments on them from any hurdlers? Is the foam cushioning in the heel effective enough to not move into a middle distance spike?
I've wondered about that as well, as the spikes place the foot higher off the ground than conventional spikes and could potentially be less stable on touch-down. I'm sure we'll hear more about this as more athletes use the spikes in various events.
I would say so, I’ve used maxfly’s for a while now and previously raced in the airzoom victory’s. Both are high quality, id say maxflys give u more stability and a little more pop tho
They have been banning certain spikes I’ve heard, do you know if those air zoom spikes are banned for high school meets currently?
I haven't heard of that locally, but it would depend on the local school district or local meet organizers. As these shoes are quite expensive, I could see them being perceived to be an unfair advantage not accessible to all competitors.
My favourite spikes were the Asics Tokyo, which is no longer made. Do you know what is the closest to the Tokyo available now?
Those were some good spikes. I also liked Mizuno spikes back in the day. Not sure what they are offering these days to compete with the Nike MaxFly line.
@@DerekMHansen Derek, have you checked out the Asics Hypersprint? I'd be curious to know how similar they are to the Asics Tokyo.
@@DerekMHansen the latest top tier mizuno short sprint offering is the X-Blast Neo. check them out!
@@pigu8734 I'll take a look!
@@pigu8734 Can you even get these Mizuno spikes in North America?
started wearing the Superfly R4's back in the day, honestly, the rivals worked better for me. While I liked that the superflys were lighter than the rivals, they were so stiff I had achilles tendinitis after a few years, that got so bad, I had to be in a boot. Currently sprinting unattached as a 25 yr old working full time, and the rivals treat my feet a lil better
I've been hearing that a lot Dave. Achilles and foot issues in the newer spikes because of the stiffness (carbon plates). It's something to watch out for moving forward. I have suggested using a Rival for training and only using the newer generation of spike for competition with a few athletes who have had foot and achilles pain.
@@DerekMHansen I agree! New stuff spikes might not be the best for everyday practice if ppl have foot/ achilles issues
Anything we can do to prevent the air pod from popping?
That's a good question. I have my athletes use these shoes primarily for competition, with some use for maximal runs in training. I figure it's a volume and wear-and-tear issue. We also limit use in wet weather, as I figure getting the shoes wet frequently can also create degradation with the materials over time.
I bought my son's Nike airmax spikes in February and it's a very good spike and very stiff...but he only competes in it and nit train in it..the airpods on both spikes popped...that's not good quality spikes..ther is a couple of athletes that I no that airpods popped...and one athletes plate on his spikes broke in half...no good quality but good for sprinting...
How that air bubble doing
Still okay on our end, but waiting for that day to come! LOL!
@@DerekMHansenhow it's feel wearing spikes, I never tried spikes all my life, n I'm trying to get spikes in future.
Do you think Made in Vietnam or China is better?
These days it may come down to supply chain issues. I'm still waiting on an order for a DJI product (China) that I made in December 2021 and I'm constantly being told it is a supply chain problem from the manufacturer.