Bare-Bones Tarot -The advantages of using the Tarot of Marseille

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  • @OMIntuitiveReadings-cf2wo
    @OMIntuitiveReadings-cf2wo 6 месяцев назад +21

    RIP< Vince. Your teachings changed the way I read Tsrot.

  • @drakainaslairtarot
    @drakainaslairtarot 2 месяца назад +3

    RIP Vincent, a wonderful teacher. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us. You will be dearly missed.

  • @mcampbell6651
    @mcampbell6651 Месяц назад

    RIP Vincent. You changed my way of thinking about Tarot and improved my readings. I will miss you

  • @Xarynnaxarynna
    @Xarynnaxarynna 2 месяца назад +1

    RIP 🙏Thank you for everything, cartomancy will miss you Sir.

  • @Magimethod
    @Magimethod 4 года назад +20

    This is blowing me away. I've been reading for twenty years and I find you now. Thank you so very much ❤️. Ever since I started reading Lenormand.... Marsailles has been calling me. I'm diving in.....

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  4 года назад +6

      Thank you Prasiddhi! Glad you like my work and thank you for watching my channel! Best to you - Vincent

  • @HermeticTempleArts
    @HermeticTempleArts 6 лет назад +39

    Thanks for posting Vincent. Appreciate the bare bones approach the Tarot of Marseilles deck offers. Before I even knew about the Tarot of Marseilles, my Grandmother taught me to read using playing cards. With those all you have to go by is the numerology and the elemental quality of the suits. Very similar to reading with the Marseilles deck, only no Major Arcana.

  • @alpha5099
    @alpha5099 Месяц назад

    I'm new to tarot, and wasn't sure if I was feeling ready to try a Marseille deck. This video really turned me around, I can absolutely see why a more abstract system could work better, and even if I decide not to stick with it, I'd love to have a good reason to learn the numerlogical significance of the numbers. Thank you from the beyond for preserving your wisdom.

  • @tresjos
    @tresjos 5 лет назад +14

    I'm getting so much more out of my Marseilles deck after looking at your videos. I won't see the RWS deck in the same (limited) way again. Wish I had seen your videos a few years ago!

  • @ardeliaince
    @ardeliaince 5 лет назад +8

    My first deck of cards (Marseille) at 15 years old - 33 years ago and my readings for others are on point. I decided to start reading for the public a few months ago. I found it easier to approach a situation for an individual with the cards (especially at pubs in Germany). As a psychic medium, I don't really need to use the cards, but some people will not feel comfortable with you telling them that a spirit is stepping forth with information or understand that you just "know" things that are very private.
    Btw, your books rock! I have recommended them to many friends to learn what I have a hard time teaching because it comes naturally with me. Waiting for your last book to come out on the market. Sending you many blessings and thanks for all you do. Blessed Be! 😊❤🙏
    My favorites: Grimaud, JJ Swiss, Aquarian, Aleister Crowley's Thoth, Morgan-Greer, Marshmallow and the Arcana Tarot Playing Cards.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +2

      Hello Blume! Thank you for your kind words. From one reader to another I wanted to say it's nice to see others who are on the same level of experience as I am. You are an experienced psychic! I'm sure your readings are exceptional! Glad you like my books too. More will be out this year! Best to you - Vincent

  • @Heather1031
    @Heather1031 2 года назад +4

    This is so helpful! I want to learn how to read intuitively from my own perspective and I have never known about this. Until this morning, I am putting all my other decks aside and starting from scratch! This is so helpful to learn the basic fundamentals!

  • @amandamoroney6866
    @amandamoroney6866 6 лет назад +10

    To doing a reading this week, using the Waite deck, as I laid the cards out, the client interpreted the cards herself, based on the images, as she has consulted many Tarot readers. What she thought was a very negative reading, turned out a generally positive reading, based on the numerical value.

  • @TheAlcheMaze
    @TheAlcheMaze 6 лет назад +6

    Couldn't agree more with your opinions on what tarot is best used for.

  • @madwitch9977
    @madwitch9977 5 лет назад +3

    I stumbled across this and Im so glad I did, as a literal beginner from April 18 I found I didn't want the RWS interpretations, so I stripped back to Marseille and this was so interesting to assimilate in what I am learning. I shall now go and see what else you have to help my studies thank you G

  • @JeffM---
    @JeffM--- 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much. What you say makes so much sense.
    I recently ordered a tarot deck, looking at a number of them, and I was drawn to the Marseille deck so that is what I chose.

  • @carolallison862
    @carolallison862 2 года назад +1

    Thank you. I love your videos and your outlook on tarot. Much appreciated. 🌝🇬🇧

  • @laeonflux
    @laeonflux Год назад +1

    This was really nice to confirm the way I've been reading. I love any deck to decipher new things and try and give a similar sense no matter what. Some people dislike pip decks but I love them, they're so concise and straight to the point. I love variations of a Rider deck for the artwork too or variations of a Thoth deck which are a bit more complex but in the end you can work with the basic numerology and Major Arcana archetypes and move swiftly from there. Tarot is such a blessing in my life and I love people who give us insight in such a simple and direct way.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  Год назад

      Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!

  • @dinashwartz4621
    @dinashwartz4621 2 года назад +1

    Yes! Totally agree about the numerical value vs an image. That's why i do not want to buy cards with proposed verbiage on them. It limits as well

  • @Leiwashere888
    @Leiwashere888 4 года назад +1

    This is my favorite video on the Tarot de Marseilles. Thank you!

  • @fionajolly5801
    @fionajolly5801 3 года назад +4

    I agree that Marseilles based decks are the way to go. I see learning with the Rider-Waite as learning with the blinkers on. The interpretations are not wrong, but it is limited. Pips broaden the meanings.

  • @amandamoroney6866
    @amandamoroney6866 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you, Mr Pitisci!

  • @Leiwashere888
    @Leiwashere888 4 года назад +1

    I personally feel more connected with my Marseille deck. Much agreed there’s so much more depth in the meanings. Thanks again!

  • @marionlesniewski7415
    @marionlesniewski7415 5 лет назад +2

    This is a great way to look at the pips. Thanks for sharing your work.

  • @ginomazzei1076
    @ginomazzei1076 2 года назад +1

    Visconti Sforza tarrochi cards predate all decks
    A beautiful set which I’ve had the pleasure of handling
    I also own the marseille deck from the 70s
    My favourite is the Crowley deck because of the incredible artwork plus the inclusion of astrology & Qabala & alchemy. Along with the tarot these are the 4 branches of magick

  • @aowales3316
    @aowales3316 4 года назад +1

    We always can learn something new, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @Audrey-rb2nf
    @Audrey-rb2nf 4 года назад +1

    You are absolutely right! I've been watching your videos; I have your deck and a couple of your books. I was afraid of TdM, but it makes so much more sense to me. I love your beginner keywords. Now I use TdM and RWS together in the same reading. If asked, I'm recommending starting with TdM, or both together.

  • @allewal
    @allewal 5 лет назад +3

    Wow! Just found your channel, great information. I just subscribed and will be buying your books.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +1

      Glad you like my channel Lifepath! Thanks for watching! Best - Vincent

  • @SarahAnew
    @SarahAnew 2 года назад +3

    The minor arcana of the Golden Dawn tarot are also very simple.

  • @shirrel1
    @shirrel1 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for all your Tarot videos.
    I have them in my 'to watch' feed from RUclips.
    Oh and also,you have a very sweet smile 😊

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  • @78cardstellastory72
    @78cardstellastory72 6 лет назад +3

    Hi Vincent. I love pip decks, especially the Ancient Italian. Also Dead on Paper have re-released the Arcana playing cards Tarot deck at long last. Ordered two, got to have a back up. I’ve just discovered your channel, amazing hey!, and really liking your words of wisdom. Gotta go, lots more of your vids to watch 😊

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  6 лет назад +1

      Hello 78 Cards, Glad you like my channel. Thanks for watching! More to come, I'm sure. Best-Vincent

  • @mariascalmingspace5573
    @mariascalmingspace5573 3 года назад +1

    Thanks you. Just got my first Marseille deck and looking forward to using it. First reading I did for myself felt good. Struggled with some aspects of RWS, although been using it for many years but as you say it can be restrictive with the images of the minor arcana, especially the suit of swords. Thanks for your knowledge 😃

  • @amyyang3913
    @amyyang3913 5 лет назад +2

    Awesome video and information. I will look into your book. Thank you so much for sharing!! I agree, the RWS can be too specific -- we get locked into these very specific meanings that may not be helpful for problem solving. Marseilles is more practical for taking personal responsibility.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад

      Hello Amy. I'm glad you enjoyed this video and thank you for watching my channel! Best to you - Vincent

  • @davek9194
    @davek9194 5 лет назад +1

    I think this is a game changing video for me so thank you. I have been reading professionally since start of the year and have used many different decks but over the last couple of months, I seem to have moved to a more traditional approach and sold off loads of decks. I had been drawn to the Marseille deck but was wary of using it as I thought the pip cards would be prescriptive - this video has turned that thinking on its head and I now see how it opens up the possibilities for wider interpretations. Thanks again

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +2

      Hi Dave, I'm glad you like my videos and thanks for watching my channel! Best to you on your Tarot journey! Vincent

    • @davek9194
      @davek9194 5 лет назад +2

      @@VPitisciand to You Vincent . Cheers from England

  • @AnnaLoweeze
    @AnnaLoweeze 5 лет назад +1

    Very informative videos. I have many decks due to the lovely artwork. But I came across the last deck of TDM today and after watching this I feel it would be best to learn on as you have said. Makes sense. Thank u

  • @Devibaba
    @Devibaba 2 года назад

    Good stuff. Many thanks for sharing.

  • @sylvapohanka2469
    @sylvapohanka2469 5 лет назад +1

    Many thanks for this video! I am relatively new to tarot and recently felt a sudden pull toward the Tarot de Marseille. I got the CBD Marseille deck only yesterday and am reading Yoav Ben-Dov's book. Cannot quite explain why yet, but I love the deck and can tell that it's going to teach me a lot!

  • @AstralLadyTarot
    @AstralLadyTarot 5 лет назад

    Rectified I always thought it was because he put Strength at eight and Justice at eleven. Watching your old vids. I agree, the Marseille system can open me up more. And I love it when I start to SEE the symbolism they represent without "adding" suit plus number

  • @RyanEdmondsMyLifeAsRyan
    @RyanEdmondsMyLifeAsRyan 8 месяцев назад

    Brilliant video. Thank you. Would love a video dedicated to the Swiss 1JJ deck, its history and story. Thank you. From South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @dawndonivan3089
    @dawndonivan3089 5 лет назад +1

    Very down to earth. Like it!

  • @Katana2040
    @Katana2040 6 лет назад +9

    I am absolutely loving my Marseilles deck! I've already used it for a pro read, and it works fantastically well. Just a clean deck!

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  6 лет назад +10

      I can relate! Once you start using it, it really sticks with you. Congrats on making that choice! I feel it will open up a wide range of insight into your readings as you go along. There's just something about that deck! Best-Vincent

    • @Katana2040
      @Katana2040 6 лет назад +3

      Yes! I'm feeling the same as well! Thanks again for your insights on this deck, and the Tarot in general. Cheers!

  • @VPA11
    @VPA11 3 года назад

    So informative . Many thanks

  • @martinwilliams9866
    @martinwilliams9866 2 года назад

    Before the Marseilles pack, there was the Visconti Sforza pack, the Charles VI pack, the Tarocchi of Mantegna (which although not Tarot, has some of the same cards), & a number of others, I believe that the earliest artists actually knew what the images symbolised, whilst a lot of the later artists, copied from the earlier decks & didn't necessarily know what they meant in detail, & left out little details that add immeasurably to it's understanding, for instance the Fool (Marseille) symbolises a card "He's a Card!", in that it has a face & a backside, the person in it is Diogenes, the Cynic (look at Misero) in the Mantegna pack, the stick separates the face from the dog attacking his rear below, symbolising adiafora or "indifference to the vicissitudes of life" & he is part of a pack, the plural of dogs, his life was changed by a visit to the Delphic oracle "Know Thyself".
    What do you think the "Wing", under her seat means in the Marseille Empress?
    Who are the two boys in the Marseilles Sun card?

  • @kaylaa2204
    @kaylaa2204 2 года назад

    This is why I prefer the pips. It's also why I like Thoth. Because when you have a picture it is only one expression of what's supposed to be a very abstract concept. Like in the Golden Dawn tradition lets say 10 of Chalices is Mars in Pisces. Mars in Pisces is just one idea but how that applies in reality can vary, but it will always connect to that idea of Mars in Pisces. If we try to draw a scene that exemplifies the idea, what that results in is a novice seeing the idea as this scene itself. It can be distracting at times, but helpful in others.
    Essentially, it's like what Crowley says about how "manifestation implies illusion" where any attempt to depict something with anything other than the thing itself will inherently be imperfect. That said, a drawing is trying too hard, and doing so much that it confuses the idea at times. Not to shit on the RWS, I use the deck at times, and you can definitely use it. But I have to say I prefer things like Thoth or Marseille, because I can see more of the abstract. Like Thoth uses colors and tones and the suit symbols themselves to get the idea across in a much less restrictive way. And then Marseille has just a few little pictures like the box on 4 of Coins, or the different flowers and whatnot. It's abstract just like the idea itself

  • @katieewatson8
    @katieewatson8 2 года назад

    Thank you!!

  • @tesimpamonami9188
    @tesimpamonami9188 6 лет назад +2

    Vincent, I have many Marseille Deck but was only using the Major Arcana, you really inspired me to use them all. When you got 2 Eighths on a Reading, on Position #6,9 what those two-Eighths represents together beside advancement? Thanks

  • @diane115
    @diane115 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you I learnt a lot 🙏😀

  • @elcieloylasestrellas2367
    @elcieloylasestrellas2367 2 года назад +1

    I recently discovered your channel and I am fascinated. My interest in tarot started when I was 11/12 yrs old. I had my first reading around that age without my parents knowing it. I am 40 now and started two years ago learning and studying tarot. I have only used RW decks. Do you think I can learn Marseille since I started with RW? Have you written a book about Marseille since you did this video 3yrs ago? Keep doing videos please🙏🏼Take care! What is your website? Thxs

  • @magdacronje2222
    @magdacronje2222 6 лет назад

    I like it ! On my Bucket list Thanks Magda

  • @TheJPLR
    @TheJPLR 4 года назад

    Glad to come across your video! I started out learning the RWS system but has been fascinated with the TdM as well. The latter is also not much popular in my place. I bought Kris Hadar's and CBD's decks and am planning to study soon. Would want to get your books as well.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  4 года назад +1

      Hi Karma! Im glad you like my channel and having me be a part of your Tarot journey! Best-Vincent

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  • @johngaunt6521
    @johngaunt6521 5 лет назад +4

    Vincent, you make a great deal of sense with your application/portrayal of Tarot at the level of advice given to clients in the most helpful way.
    As a reader I had my world turned around by Ly de Angeles with her book "Tarot Theory & Practice" which changed my perception.
    The difference between yourself and other Tarot readers is you direct the client themselves to each step of the way, without complex issues of external factors, other people, various scenarios that might or might not happen, you keep it fixed to the individual and their own personal progress, this has given me the answers that I felt inside that things were still not right.
    I have already bought your book "Genius of the Tarot" and started to take these teachings in.
    I am very much into numerology, and also study what pairs mean, three of, four of, etc this holds in value for the Major Arcana also....two Aces, for instance, a change of place and a change of pace
    I personally could not get on with the Rider-Waite deck, but the Thoth deck taught me Astrological aspects/interpretations to the table It was also very interesting to note the particular Moon Phase for the client's visit, this I found very useful.
    I have also ordered the Marseille deck.
    I have been very impressed by your approach to the Tarot, your practical easy deliverance of your videos.
    I thank you for your time and expertise.
    Regards-John

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +3

      Hello John, Thanks for your words. I'm glad you like my approach and I feel you will do well with the cards. Your comments make me think that you think deeply and seriously about this. You pick up things that many don't see at first. Your eyes are open and you see more than most! It has been fun to share my knowledge now that I am at this point with the cards. Have fun on your Tarot journey and thank you for making me a part of it. Best to you - Vincent

    • @orangeearth4139
      @orangeearth4139 4 года назад +1

      Hi John, is there a book you know of that teaches about those numerical pairings and combinations? Thanks

  • @browneyelady6726
    @browneyelady6726 5 лет назад

    Thank you always informative..

  • @umamoon5585
    @umamoon5585 5 лет назад +5

    Handsome!

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +3

      Thank you Uma. And thanks for watching my channel too! Best - Vincent

  • @bravesoul7777
    @bravesoul7777 4 года назад

    Thank you, this helps a lot.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  4 года назад

      Glad you liked this Queen of Pentacles!

  • @mukhumor
    @mukhumor 5 лет назад +1

    Great intel. Can you tell me where you explain the basic meanings of the numerical values?

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +2

      Yes Jim. Here are the links to both Major and Minor Arcana meanings. Minor Arcana Link: ruclips.net/video/qeLy2KNi_WA/видео.html
      Major Arcana Link: ruclips.net/video/Cj10aY8vJTY/видео.html
      Enjoy!!

  • @annerobinson2288
    @annerobinson2288 3 года назад +1

    So in a reading, why wouldn't you think of the suit? Using the Marseille deck, let's say you are picking a card for a certain position and 2 cards fall out so you assign both cards to that position. And if they were two of the same number, 5 for instance, wouldn't you consider the suits to elaborate their meaning?

  • @GatewayGarden267
    @GatewayGarden267 10 месяцев назад

    Is there a list of themes for the pip cards? Ex: 5 = change, 3 = ??

  • @ginnastamps4380
    @ginnastamps4380 5 лет назад

    Thank you! This helps a lot❤

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +1

      Glad you liked this Gonna. Thanks for watching my channel! Best - Vincent

  • @znakovinapututarot
    @znakovinapututarot Год назад

    Marseilles deck tells me everything

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  Год назад

      Yes a good solid choice! Thanks for watching!

  • @chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915
    @chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 8 месяцев назад

    What is your opinion on Sola Busca Tarot?

  • @garymcgrogan4934
    @garymcgrogan4934 5 лет назад

    I see your point - thanx! I was given an LJJ Swiss tarot deck, (similar to the Marseille), and your explanation has given me incentive to use it. BTW: What other numbers, (other than the fives/Change), do you think the Waite deck limits interpretations/are negative.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +2

      Hi Gary, thanks for your comments! As far as the number interpretations go, The Three, Eight, Nine and Ten of Swords negative images always seem to throw a curve ball into my students thinking. Those cards can mean wonderful things. Have fun and thanks for watching my channel! Best to you - Vincent

    • @garymcgrogan4934
      @garymcgrogan4934 5 лет назад

      @@VPitisci Yes I can see students getting hung-up on the negativity - omitting positive interpretations. Your words helped me make these lyrics:
      Imagery can steer you wrong
      Scared to step in case you fall
      Misled - thinking you’re strong
      Intuition can breach the wall
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  • @carolmartin1032
    @carolmartin1032 6 лет назад

    Hi Vence,
    Just came to this video and it answered the question I asked on a different video.
    Yesterday was my first introduction to your work in “Genius of the Tarot breaking open the Mystery “ Theosophy Society.
    I have been viewing your own You Tube videos. Do you have another means of contact available, to reach you. Thank you,

  • @pythagoreios07
    @pythagoreios07 5 лет назад

    Are the things you are saying at this video included in your books?? I really like your approach... At the moment i follow papus approach which is included at the bohemian tarot..The differnce is that he gives an extra colour to the different suits eg swords=hate or struggle.

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад

      Hello pythagorelos07, I would say my approach and my attitude are shown in my books, yes. Specifically, I'm not sure what things you are asking being covered. I would say Papus is difficult to follow for today's reader and I feel my work would make things a lot clearer. I am known for making things clearer. This video does go over what is in my books as far as the cards I use. Hope this helps in some way. Thanks for watching my channel! Best to you - Vincent

  • @annerobinson2288
    @annerobinson2288 4 года назад

    I was disappointed when I saw that your book used the RWS as the card illustrations. Especially in light of how you teach Tarot with the Marseille deck. Thanks for this video. So clear and helpful. Anne

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  4 года назад +1

      Hello Anne, sorry to disappoint you. Yes, I teach mostly with the RWS deck because of it's popularity. But as you go through my book you will find that the deck is not what is important. The application is what's key. Hope this helps and I truly do hope you still enjoy my book. thanks for watching my channel! Best to you - Vincent

    • @annerobinson2288
      @annerobinson2288 4 года назад

      @@VPitisci Oh, of course. I'm getting so much out of your book and videos. I was looking at a few of the majors in your book this morning and I see what you mean. All the best to you, Anne

  • @pythagoreios07
    @pythagoreios07 5 лет назад

    So in your book "the essential tarot" you refer to the minor arcana in the way you refer to it in this video??? I really loved the video. I have watched it many times. I am in love with the marseilles decks

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +1

      Hello pythagoreios07, In Essential Tarot I define each of the Minor Arcana separately. In this video I group them by numerical value. Essential Tarot has all 78 cards defined individually. I use the Rider Waite deck in Essential Tarot. Not the Tarot of Marseilles. Hope this helps! Thanks for asking! Vincent

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад +1

      Radical Tarot has them grouped by numerical value similar to this video.

  • @keithsmyly2395
    @keithsmyly2395 3 года назад

    I've been interested, so I bought a set. My ONLY complaint is the deck I have is huge! I cant shuffle them. Suggestions, anyone?

  • @1000bottles
    @1000bottles 3 года назад

    What is a good way to learn tarot marseille

  • @Eliza-ik9yb
    @Eliza-ik9yb 2 года назад

    👍💥❤️

  • @aowales3316
    @aowales3316 4 года назад

    you are showing 2 books what is r=the brown one is it your book too ?

  • @jadaosteen1898
    @jadaosteen1898 5 лет назад

    Do you know Caroline Adams barebones Tarot?

    • @VPitisci
      @VPitisci  5 лет назад

      Hello Jada, I just watched a TedX talk done by Caroline Adams. I never heard of you before. The talk was great! She is a really good inspirational speaker! Thank you for asking. Best to you, Vincent

  • @jordanwoods9189
    @jordanwoods9189 4 года назад

    where can i get a deck like that?

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  • @michswags
    @michswags 4 года назад

    but dont you have a chance to get FOUR times more of cards (themes) you already shared with querent...maybe monotonous?? thanks a bunch... how do you handle that!!??

    • @deboss9598
      @deboss9598 4 года назад

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  • @TheNormallyOpen
    @TheNormallyOpen 3 года назад

    Very helpful - thank you. I have been drawn to this deck, I will order your book today. Any advice for a beginner making their first steps on the path? All the best

  • @annerobinson2288
    @annerobinson2288 3 года назад

    One more thing! Do you allow your intuition to inform your readings?

  • @MedullarisConus
    @MedullarisConus 4 года назад +2

    Waite and Crowley butchered the true meaning of Tarot.

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      @deboss9598 4 года назад

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    • @MedullarisConus
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