In a New Hope when Vader tells Tarkin Obi Wan was in the Death Star He says there was a tremor in the force and the last time he felt it was in the presence of his old master. So Tarkin knew Vader was Anakin
Yeah, though they had like 19 years working together before that, so it's a little ambiguous as to when he figured it out, but yeah he definitely knew by then
Vader probably sensed Tarkin worked out who he was. He probably appreciated he kept it quiet and not directly brought it up, but they implied a few times they knew. Tarkin said he was the last of that old religion and Vader said, "his old master". He knew, but got it was not really a subject to bring up directly.
Meanwhile there’s just Thrawn who openly refers to events he and Anakin experienced together with Vader and Vader keeps telling him “bro you’re wrong shut up” (canon novel Thrawn: Alliances)
The only things Vader fears is Sidious and Obi-Wan. And honestly, Tarkin is cool enough to not piss off Vader, especially since Palps wanted Tarkin.running shitm
The only thing that remained when anakin became darth vader was his respect for his troopers and wouldn’t order them to do something he wouldn’t do first
@@VolkovVelikanActually either legends and/or canon said that the army basically worshiped him. Lot of the officers were spineless backstabbers that didn’t care about their men. Vader never ordered his soldiers to do something he wouldn’t, and never did anything spineless.
Not only did tarking know but grand admiral thrawn knew because in the Ahsoka series he said about Ahsoka master was anakin and he knew about anakins fall. He guessed that vader was anakin but thrawn guessed because of the fact that he didn’t wanna get choked if he brought it up or killed
Thrawn knew that Vader was Anakin. He met Anakin during the Clone Wars and he performed a certain maneuver that Vader later performed in a TIE Defender during a battle led by Thrawn. Thrawn noticed and was certain that they were the same man.
I dont Take that fully as a proof, since the Differentiation between Jedi and sith isnt that clear to the people (seems like it in rogue one). So maybe tarkin was referring to Vader force sensiblity instead of him being a Former Jedi.
"a tremor in the force. the last tine i felt it was in the presence of my old master" vader to tarkin in a new hope. this shows tarkin knows he was anakin and that vader recognizes that
Tarkin knew because in Star Wars after Vader indicates that Obi Wan was on the Death Star Tarkin states '"The Jedi are all but extinct Lord Vader. You are all thats left of them".
He's probably one of the few people who didn't fear Vader. And that's probably because Palpatine specifically told Vader that Tarkin was off limits. And Tarkin knew it.
Tarkin didn't respect Jedis at all. When he got rescued during clone wars, the only one that he said that he respected was Anakin, and Obi Wan asked if he "should be concerned about his new ally"... Jedis didn't trust Tarkin either.
Where is that very last clip from where the image of Vader turns into Anakin with the lightingin the background? Is it from the Ahsoka show or something?
Tarkin was one of the few Empire hierarchs Vader "respected." I say that with quotes because like the video suggests and through events in his canon novel, Vader also respected his military background, strategies, and brutal tactics. Militaristically, Tarkin was probably only a few steps behind Thrawn in observation skills.
Two things about Tarkin. 1. I think he knew a lot more about pretty much everything than he let on. 2. Since Peter Cushing hated the boots that were part of his uniform he asked to be filmed from the waist up or sitting because it let him work in his slippers. So, just picture that.
Yes he knew. But didn’t expose him. Due to the fact that he respected the emperor. Also how Darth Vader has a brilliant military mind and was very loyal to the empire.
Tarkin noticed a similar lightsaber technique? Ani had to use a completely different form due to the limitations of his suit. Tarkin rarely saw eighter version fight and if he did, he would see a young man, doing acrobatics and jumps and later a big, tanky robot, that cant lift his arms over his over shoulder height
It wasn't too difficult for people to find out who Vader was to be fair, many found out by seeing his face and some by piecing up the facts. Almost all the time he would force choke all of them.
Tarkin couldn't have recognised his light saber technique because due to the restrictions of the suit Vader had to change his light saber dueling style significantly from before
He knew Anakin was Obi Wan's only apprentice from their encounters in the clone wars and Darth Vader talks to Tarkin in ANH about his master Obi Wan being on the death star
Imagine Tarkin would've just shouted it out in some microphone while Luke and Vader were fighting, though if I don't remember wrong, Tarkin was already dead at that point💀
Tarkin: Remember the Emperor put me in command...General Skywalker. *Vader looks him up and down* *1 hour later* Palpatine (on phone): Lord Vader where the Force is Grand Moff Tarkin? I've been trying to reach him for the past hour. Vader: He's indisposed at the moment, my Master. Palpatine: Indisposed? What could be more important than...oh my Abeloth...you killed him didn't you. Lord Vader...we really have to talk. How many times do I need to tell you I don't want to rule over a galaxy of the dead!
I thought Tarkin was let in on the fact that Vader was Anakin. There is really no reason not to. He admired Anakin before and it would have been wierd if Palpi just called Tarkin in after Vaders creation and said: "Grandmoff, this is my new apprentice. You two will work closely from now on and dont bother seeking similarities to anyone you know with him. He was born like this"
Tarkin having worked with anakin several times, then working with Vader every day and then guessing they are the same, but not saying anything out of respect. Meanwhile thrawn met anakin for one day. Then the first time he worked with Vader he started trolling him on his real identity
I thought Tarkin knew because he said, "You my friend are all that's left of their religion." How could Tarkin know that about Vader if he did not know who Vader was?
C3po also knew....he was Anakin's only friend when he was young. From the way he walked and his particular dislike for sand C3po knew but out of respect for the flux capacitor he told only the most obscure civilisations (like a bantha, Jawas and womp rats)
Also, unless I’m misremembering something, Tarkin was Vader’s superior. Or at the very least they were on the same level. So it would stand to reason for Tarkin to feel he had authority over Vader, because he did. Tarkin is also a very arrogant dude, so that probably played into it too.
Respect for the former jedi... Tarkin was probably more concerned about Vader killing him if he was stupid enough to share that information. Anakin went under the mask so soon after turning to the dark side, that barely anyone knew. Only a real dumbass would ask Vader - "lord Vader, were you Anakin Skywalker?"
Uh, he blew up Alderan just to make a point of how powerful the Death Star was. Even after Leia gave up the rebel base, albeit an old, deserted one, which Tarkin didn't find out until later. Kinda makes him a really evil guy.
Guys like seriously you guys are star wars fans and you don't remember new hope? There was a scene where tarkin says vader you're the last of the jedi order.
Funny how everyone thinks of vader as someone who would kill stormtroopers over nothing while its not true at all, in the movies hes never showed hostility towards a trooper, only the snobby officers
It's a piece of crap title came up in the earlier novels in the movie he was referred to as Governor Tarkin. I saw it for the first time in Tim Zahn books. Also learned the force user dependent on your cosmic cootie index🙄
Depends on the situation. Form 4 for defense and deflecting multiple foes armed with blasters. Form 5 for powerful swings to wear out the opponent. Form 7, Vaapad, if the Jedi employing the technique is strong enough to use it without falling to the darkside. Honestly check out Wookiepedia, I can't remember them all.
Vader treated HIS troopers with respect aswell. He cared for his Fist, and treated these clones with the respect that they deserved. Doesn't mean he does not punish harshly, when he found out that one of them reported directly to Sidious.
It wasn't "out of respect"😂 it was because of Tarkin said his name was Anakin Skywalker he'd have his neck snapped like a twig 😂 come on man get it right 😂
Nope if you know lore you would know that Tarkin was a special case since Palpatine himself knew Tarkin as part of his inner circle far before the formation of the Empire. He practically was Palpatine's right hand man alongside Vader so both have tons of respect for each other. If Vader did kill Tarkin Palpatine likely would've zapped him for fun for the next few months or so.
@Tofu6969 I think your right. In "A New Hope" Tarkin pretty much gives Vader orders with impunity. Later on Vader would pretty much choke the crap out of any Imperial Officer he wanted, but not Grand Moff Tarken. I know there was other Moffs in the Empire, but I don't remember any other Grand Moffs. The pecking order at the time was Palpatine, Tarkin, then Vader.
@Tofu6969 not long after anakin became vader a bunch of stuff went down and no one respected or recognized vader as their superior so he told the emperor and said he wanted to make an example to them and the emperor agreed saying something along the lines if "choose who you want besides tarkin I have further use of him"
this is dumb. Darth Vader had a relationship with storm troopers? Tarkin who isnt a jedi recognized his lightsaber techniques and tied it to Anikan? thats some bs
Yea...wait til' you see the video clip when Vader gets sad because nobody remembers his birthday🤣so 2 stormtroopers decided to tell him Happy Birthday 😆😆😆😆😂😅😅😅
*Darth Vader:* "Wise... very wise."
doubt he’d kill him hes the only one not scared of vader 😂
Vader can’t do shit to Tarkin cause if he does Palpatine will fuck him up
@@dex337vader will smash palpatine like he did in ROTJ
More like chewed out. He's been chewed out before.
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@@dex337 Still, Palpatine definitely wouldn't want Tarkin snitching Vader's identity. 💀
In a New Hope when Vader tells Tarkin Obi Wan was in the Death Star He says there was a tremor in the force and the last time he felt it was in the presence of his old master. So Tarkin knew Vader was Anakin
Yep! Definitely a huge takeaway there!
@@VadersOrderwouldn’t it have been easier and shorter just to say what he said?
@@markelraya10those were probably years after tarkin already know
Yeah, though they had like 19 years working together before that, so it's a little ambiguous as to when he figured it out, but yeah he definitely knew by then
How does that prove anything? His old master could have been tons of Jedi.
I misread the title and thought it said "Did Darth Vader know he was Anakin Skywalker"
Honestly, great question
@@VadersOrderyeah everyone does believe there were still slivers of Anakin in Darth Vader
@@exotictrazionClearly, as he turned back to the light side and saved his son. Vader probably dreamed of the day he could chuck Palps down the chute.
@@VadersOrderI need your help
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Vader probably sensed Tarkin worked out who he was. He probably appreciated he kept it quiet and not directly brought it up, but they implied a few times they knew.
Tarkin said he was the last of that old religion and Vader said, "his old master".
He knew, but got it was not really a subject to bring up directly.
The old religion stuff is because he uses the force
Meanwhile there’s just Thrawn who openly refers to events he and Anakin experienced together with Vader and Vader keeps telling him “bro you’re wrong shut up” (canon novel Thrawn: Alliances)
@@Cookies_1900 There were differet religions amongst force users.
For a man whose Doctrine is Fear, he sure does respect Vader enough to keep his secret.
The only things Vader fears is Sidious and Obi-Wan. And honestly, Tarkin is cool enough to not piss off Vader, especially since Palps wanted Tarkin.running shitm
Tarkin knew…… And Vader also knew Tarkin was WELL AWARE OF WHO HE WAS💯
#RESPECT💯
The only thing that remained when anakin became darth vader was his respect for his troopers and wouldn’t order them to do something he wouldn’t do first
That’s true, stormtroopers probably feared Vader the least compared to imperial officers
@@VolkovVelikanActually either legends and/or canon said that the army basically worshiped him. Lot of the officers were spineless backstabbers that didn’t care about their men. Vader never ordered his soldiers to do something he wouldn’t, and never did anything spineless.
Not only did tarking know but grand admiral thrawn knew because in the Ahsoka series he said about Ahsoka master was anakin and he knew about anakins fall. He guessed that vader was anakin but thrawn guessed because of the fact that he didn’t wanna get choked if he brought it up or killed
*thrawn
Thrawn knew that Vader was Anakin. He met Anakin during the Clone Wars and he performed a certain maneuver that Vader later performed in a TIE Defender during a battle led by Thrawn. Thrawn noticed and was certain that they were the same man.
@@overtimenoverdueexactly
When Vader mentions Obi Wan in A New Hope he describes him as his old master. That kind of narrows it down.
"We're chill i like you" "damn that's new"
then they kiss
Good for him bc every time someone called Vader by his real name, he threw a tantrum
Gigachad Tarkin
I knew Tarkin knew since I was 8 years old. "The Jedi are extinct, you my friend are all that's left of their religion." There's your clue.
I knew train since I was 3 and I started whatching rebels and Star Wars lol
*tarkin
I dont Take that fully as a proof, since the Differentiation between Jedi and sith isnt that clear to the people (seems like it in rogue one). So maybe tarkin was referring to Vader force sensiblity instead of him being a Former Jedi.
@@IknillU100xhe literally was around when Jedi were around you dingle berry he knew anakin before he was Vader
Am i the only one that started with the prequel movies and watched very chronologically as a kid ??
He's an evil Alfred. I like it
Tarkin?
@@crabking9223 no ur fucking mom yes Tarkin!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
More like Count Dooku, or William Wintergreen.
@@randomguy1033 NO EVIL ALFRED!!!! EVIL ALFRED!!!!!!
@@thomasstapp6432 Dooku and Wintergreen ARE, EVIL ALFREDS.
"a tremor in the force. the last tine i felt it was in the presence of my old master" vader to tarkin in a new hope. this shows tarkin knows he was anakin and that vader recognizes that
Tarkin was the real one
Tarkin knew because in Star Wars after Vader indicates that Obi Wan was on the Death Star Tarkin states '"The Jedi are all but extinct Lord Vader. You are all thats left of them".
"Out of respect for the former Jedi, Tarkin would keep his true identoty a secret"
More like out of fear for his life lol
He's probably one of the few people who didn't fear Vader. And that's probably because Palpatine specifically told Vader that Tarkin was off limits. And Tarkin knew it.
In the legends book “Death Star” - Tarkin knows that Vader is Anakin Skywalker.
Yep, this is where this information comes from!
Tarkin didn't respect Jedis at all. When he got rescued during clone wars, the only one that he said that he respected was Anakin, and Obi Wan asked if he "should be concerned about his new ally"... Jedis didn't trust Tarkin either.
I like that it was out of respect, and not fear.
Clearly, Tarkin's not too frightened of him.
"Enough of this! Vader! Release him!"
imagine they run into each other and tarkin says something like “hey anakin”💀 vader would fr go nuts
..... Ask stupid questions.... Get stupid answers
That’s dope to know. Love this channel
Fan arts with half Anakin, half Vader are the BEST❤
Where is that very last clip from where the image of Vader turns into Anakin with the lightingin the background? Is it from the Ahsoka show or something?
The internet has literally done every video, but "the one time Darth Vader ate Life cereal.....and he liked it".
Sooo am I the only one that's going to mention how HOT Dark Anakin looks at the end !
Tarkin was one of the few Empire hierarchs Vader "respected." I say that with quotes because like the video suggests and through events in his canon novel, Vader also respected his military background, strategies, and brutal tactics. Militaristically, Tarkin was probably only a few steps behind Thrawn in observation skills.
Two things about Tarkin.
1. I think he knew a lot more about pretty much everything than he let on.
2. Since Peter Cushing hated the boots that were part of his uniform he asked to be filmed from the waist up or sitting because it let him work in his slippers. So, just picture that.
Yes he knew. But didn’t expose him. Due to the fact that he respected the emperor. Also how Darth Vader has a brilliant military mind and was very loyal to the empire.
In the novel Rogue Planet (pre-Disney/ Legends) Tarkin meets young boy Anakin on Zonama Sekot, and the Death Star plans are briefly mentioned.
He knew. Vader knew that he knew. He knew that Vader knew that he knew.
He very much knew. But as a master commander he kept his mouth shut. He knew what happened to the clones that found out.
Tarkin noticed a similar lightsaber technique? Ani had to use a completely different form due to the limitations of his suit. Tarkin rarely saw eighter version fight and if he did, he would see a young man, doing acrobatics and jumps and later a big, tanky robot, that cant lift his arms over his over shoulder height
It wasn't too difficult for people to find out who Vader was to be fair, many found out by seeing his face and some by piecing up the facts. Almost all the time he would force choke all of them.
Tarkin couldn't have recognised his light saber technique because due to the restrictions of the suit Vader had to change his light saber dueling style significantly from before
He knew Anakin was Obi Wan's only apprentice from their encounters in the clone wars and Darth Vader talks to Tarkin in ANH about his master Obi Wan being on the death star
This was in sharp contrast with Sheev Palpatine who started a rumor that Anakin Skywalker died by autoerotic asphyxiation, just to mess with Vader
he always known just you could say were GANGSTERS they were the only ones that can get shit done
I think he suspected it but never called him by his original name, just always addressed whom as Vader.
Light saber techniques? Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader fight completely differently.
He probably knew,but unlike many Imperial personnel,he was smart enough to keep the knowledge to himself.
Imagine Tarkin would've just shouted it out in some microphone while Luke and Vader were fighting, though if I don't remember wrong, Tarkin was already dead at that point💀
Tarkin: Remember the Emperor put me in command...General Skywalker.
*Vader looks him up and down*
*1 hour later*
Palpatine (on phone): Lord Vader where the Force is Grand Moff Tarkin? I've been trying to reach him for the past hour.
Vader: He's indisposed at the moment, my Master.
Palpatine: Indisposed? What could be more important than...oh my Abeloth...you killed him didn't you. Lord Vader...we really have to talk. How many times do I need to tell you I don't want to rule over a galaxy of the dead!
Even though Vadar absolutely hated Tarkin
Tarkin Everyone Darth vader is
Tarkin:Chokes
Anakin/Darth vader:Apologise accepted Mr Tarkin
Everyone else: more along
Tarkin, Thrawn, Sidious, and I suspect one or two others all knew who Vader used to be.
What version of the song is this
Palpatine: “Kill hi-“
Anakin: “Ok.” *kills dooku*
Palpatine: “Wait, what? That was easy…”
...did people realize that Vader's outfit was a life support suit thought of him as 'a dead man walking' ?
Nah tarkin didnt wanna get force choked
I thought Tarkin was let in on the fact that Vader was Anakin. There is really no reason not to. He admired Anakin before and it would have been wierd if Palpi just called Tarkin in after Vaders creation and said: "Grandmoff, this is my new apprentice. You two will work closely from now on and dont bother seeking similarities to anyone you know with him. He was born like this"
Tarkin having worked with anakin several times, then working with Vader every day and then guessing they are the same, but not saying anything out of respect. Meanwhile thrawn met anakin for one day. Then the first time he worked with Vader he started trolling him on his real identity
If tarkin had leaked vaders true identity, then darth vader would have beat the galaxies out of him
Of course he agreed with the military tactics of a war criminal v:::
I thought Tarkin knew because he said, "You my friend are all that's left of their religion." How could Tarkin know that about Vader if he did not know who Vader was?
C3po also knew....he was Anakin's only friend when he was young. From the way he walked and his particular dislike for sand C3po knew but out of respect for the flux capacitor he told only the most obscure civilisations (like a bantha, Jawas and womp rats)
Vaders lightsaber techniques changed after he was defeated by obiwan so Tarkin wouldnt have known he was anakin by vaders techniques
Hey Vaders order I wonder if you take inspiration from Vaders fortress I’ve notice both of you guys make similar content with the same format
You don't see these kinds of videos about the sequels. The sequels aren't considered canon anymore by the fans.
Better question is ; Why did Tarkin feel that he had authority over Vader? As demonstrated in Ep 4 "Vader Release him" ...."As you wish"....
Because in a sense, Vader and Thrawn have a sense of respect to one another.
Also, unless I’m misremembering something, Tarkin was Vader’s superior. Or at the very least they were on the same level. So it would stand to reason for Tarkin to feel he had authority over Vader, because he did. Tarkin is also a very arrogant dude, so that probably played into it too.
More out of fear for his life than out of respect. Anyone who called Darth Vader by the name Anakin was sure to be Force choked.
Didn’t Tarkin tell Vader that he was “all that was left of that old religion” referring to Obi One
What scene is that last one from “where Vader flashes into Anakin”
Pretty sure that was the Ahsoka Show on D+. Episode 5, Shadow Warrior.
I thought anakin changed lightsaber techniques after the suit due to restricted mobility, agility and increased strength
Respect for the former jedi... Tarkin was probably more concerned about Vader killing him if he was stupid enough to share that information. Anakin went under the mask so soon after turning to the dark side, that barely anyone knew.
Only a real dumbass would ask Vader - "lord Vader, were you Anakin Skywalker?"
Tarkin was the only good imperial officer
Uh, he blew up Alderan just to make a point of how powerful the Death Star was. Even after Leia gave up the rebel base, albeit an old, deserted one, which Tarkin didn't find out until later. Kinda makes him a really evil guy.
General Veers
@@SMELLTHECHEEZ Admiral Piett.
😢 I Never Liked Tarkin, More so after Ashoka☹️
Guys like seriously you guys are star wars fans and you don't remember new hope? There was a scene where tarkin says vader you're the last of the jedi order.
His lightsaber techniques had totally changed thanks to his body suit. Sooo how does that add up?
Funny how everyone thinks of vader as someone who would kill stormtroopers over nothing while its not true at all, in the movies hes never showed hostility towards a trooper, only the snobby officers
Oh, so Moff is a title?
Yep!
@@VadersOrder I just realized from this post. I thought Moff Gideon's 1st name was Moff. 😂
It's a piece of crap title came up in the earlier novels in the movie he was referred to as Governor Tarkin. I saw it for the first time in Tim Zahn books. Also learned the force user dependent on your cosmic cootie index🙄
Cosmic cootie index XD thats a keeper@@cjjonez
@@cjjonezTarkin also held the title of Grand Moff Tarkin as well. I think Leia just called him Governor Tarkin to belittle him and piss him off.
Man Vader didn’t give a shit about stormtroopers, mate
Just like Thrawn yes
Short Answer: Yes.
what’s the best/most effective form of lightsaber combat?
Wasn't NO LIGHTSABER FORM MORE DEVASTATING AND IMPENETRABLE THAN FORM ALDI'S.
Depends on the situation. Form 4 for defense and deflecting multiple foes armed with blasters.
Form 5 for powerful swings to wear out the opponent. Form 7, Vaapad, if the Jedi employing the technique is strong enough to use it without falling to the darkside. Honestly check out Wookiepedia, I can't remember them all.
@@paulnicholson5997thanks!
The way he treated his stormtroopers??? Bro, Vader abused is soldiers!! Anakin loved and respected his clones
Vader treated HIS troopers with respect aswell. He cared for his Fist, and treated these clones with the respect that they deserved.
Doesn't mean he does not punish harshly, when he found out that one of them reported directly to Sidious.
Yet Tarkin didn't like him that much in episode 4
When I saw this I was like “who the heck is Grand Admiral Tarkin, the only Grand Admiral I know is Grand Admiral Thrawn”😂😂😂
It was actually Grand Moff Tarkin.
Tarkin wasnt that much of an asshole
Tldr... Most likely yes
Yes he did
Darth Vader 🤡
Darth Skywalker 😎
It wasn't "out of respect"😂 it was because of Tarkin said his name was Anakin Skywalker he'd have his neck snapped like a twig 😂 come on man get it right 😂
Nope if you know lore you would know that Tarkin was a special case since Palpatine himself knew Tarkin as part of his inner circle far before the formation of the Empire. He practically was Palpatine's right hand man alongside Vader so both have tons of respect for each other. If Vader did kill Tarkin Palpatine likely would've zapped him for fun for the next few months or so.
@Tofu6969 I think your right. In "A New Hope" Tarkin pretty much gives Vader orders with impunity. Later on Vader would pretty much choke the crap out of any Imperial Officer he wanted, but not Grand Moff Tarken. I know there was other Moffs in the Empire, but I don't remember any other Grand Moffs. The pecking order at the time was Palpatine, Tarkin, then Vader.
@Tofu6969 not long after anakin became vader a bunch of stuff went down and no one respected or recognized vader as their superior so he told the emperor and said he wanted to make an example to them and the emperor agreed saying something along the lines if "choose who you want besides tarkin I have further use of him"
@@jacobbenear2206 Actually, I think I've heard of that before.
@@paulnicholson5997 yep
He would have died instantly if he spoke.
And he ded on Star Wars IV.
Respect or fear? Lol
He, probably did💁🏻♂️.
SO HE DOES KNOW DARTH VADER'S TRUE IDENTITY RIGHT ?
Day 4 of asking you to make a video about Luke’s lightsaber form
Yes
That last clip of Vader turning into Anakin, what's that from?
Pretty sure that was the Ahsoka Show on D+. Episode 5, Shadow Warrior.
No I think thats an edit of the fight from the Kenobi series @@paulnicholson5997
Who cares they're both dead
this is dumb. Darth Vader had a relationship with storm troopers? Tarkin who isnt a jedi recognized his lightsaber techniques and tied it to Anikan? thats some bs
Yea...wait til' you see the video clip when Vader gets sad because nobody remembers his birthday🤣so 2 stormtroopers decided to tell him Happy Birthday 😆😆😆😆😂😅😅😅
first
bro really
I asked
Who?
True he knew.
You my friend are all thats left of their religion