@@CreepyMemes yeah thanks for sharing I didn't notice. I looked it up on the internet and it's a poem by Danilo Dolci (Italian educator and activist) entitled "Ciascuno cresce solo se sognato"
I've never seen a low income housing project, created by some dreamy eyed architect, that wasn't a dystopian nightmare. Human beings must be a mystery to them.
actually social housing works, yes there are some bad examples that are news worthy while the working ones no one cares about. I guess a good exampel of working social housing is most soviet architecture with self-sustaining nabourhoods. counties like Denmark and Sweden have social housing with rules for mixture like (25% pensioners 25% studens 25%families and 25% single rooms), that works great and guess you chould say all of it is social housing catering for low income earners but with different social capital and values making sure it stays balanced.
Even the initial design, it's terrible to live in the boxes they designed. But yeah because of the corruption it was overcrowded & non-functional when it was utilized first, thus doomed to fail.
@hanikrummi hundursvin those who bother get taken advantage of by others who treat the place like a landfill. Who wants to clean up after others for free or to try and invest in personal projects in a public area where random kids can trash it on a whim?
They were naive upper middle class idealists with little idea as to how ordinary people live and interact with each other. I recall as a child that most houses were designed by builders or non degree trained people using appropriate housing patterns passed down from generations past, what is known as vernacular architecture. Some idealistic architects tried to build fancy roofs and housing styles more appropriate to the mediterranean hot spots rather than to cold and damp Ireland. These fancy houses leaked badly and had to be rectified by common sense and practical builders in order to work properly. Balconies were glazed in to keep in heat and keep out rain, flat roofs were redone in a tiled pitched style, or better yet slate, to keep out driving rain and several other forgotten details known by our ancestors but omitted by the arrogant architects more interested in style and appearance than actual function, ease of maintenance and durability. Modern architects have improved hugely in this regard but need to be watched carefully as developers, often working at 1000 units at a time are the new devils in the building world.
@@roby72s Hungary has laws in place that buildings have to have historical architecture. The stuff they build is beautiful and you wouldn't know it was built so recently, it looks like 17th century kinda architecture.
@@keighlancoe5933 I am glad for you my Hungarian friend. Is it a recent law or has been around for along time? Hungary was on my holiday wish list. I hope that as soon as we are allowed travel again, I will be able to do so.
I grew up in one of these complexes in Glasgow. We lived 8 levels high....the building had 17 levels. Red Road flats across the railway tracks were 32 storeys high. We had dozens of such complexes in Glasgow. On a windy day (many of those in Scotland)...the whole building sounded haunted. Doors would shut and elevators would sometimes take you to abandoned levels in darkness.
My uncle has lived in 30 storey trellick tower since 1977, it was built by enio goldfinger. He lived on the 30th floor for 15yrs. It does sway slightly in high winds. Aswad wrote the song Ghetto in the sky, The Clash wrote up in heaven about trellick tower. For a long time it was a vertical ghetto. There was at least one person jumping off a upper landing every year. One time a base jumper jumped from the top, his parachute never opened Then the council moved out the problem families, installed cctv, and put a 12hr concierge at the entrance. A friend originally squatted his flat around 1980, a few of the residents did. Eventually they granted them tenancies. He bought his flat years ago under the right to buy scheme for around £50,000. He rents it out now for £2,200 a month. A 3 bed flat now sells for £1,000,000
This phenomenon of 60's brutalist tower blocks was played out in lots of places where 'visionary' architects created dystopian nightmares partly because as Roger Scruton suggested... "There is a deep human need for beauty and if you ignore that need in architecture, your buildings will not last".
@@Andredias164 run away from that too. Its a lie, there is no such thing as a utopia, this is a perfect example of what it becomes, and if you want to see more of it just look at russian flats. What a depressing way to live. This shouldnt be allowed.
Not only there my friend... It is world wide.... some places are just more evident, some others not so much... I think those kinda of shameful corrupted scandals and how we see them are related to the culture we live in.
Reminded me of the "Elefante Blanco" building in Argentina, that was intended to be a hospital but it was never finished and it ended up being left there abandoned, and a lot of squatting families made it their homes, dividing it into apartments.
I live in Chicago and this is very reminiscent of the Cabrini-Green projects. It’s a shame that this kind of thing does not ever seem to work for anyone but criminals. I am not saying at all that everyone livings in these places are criminals but it certainly makes it tough for the good people that have to live there. Love your documentaries, well done!
They can work but only with heavy funding, more green space and trees and 5-8 stories instead of 10-40 stories. They defund and don't want to fix anything. They are also isolated from the rest of the city. They should also be purpose built to cover issues the people have.
You should watch "Show me a hero" that tackles this problem in 80's Yonkers. One character assigned to oversight, insists that the increase of shared spaces leads to increase of neglect. He argues that no matter the race or social status, people will protect what's theirs. It ties the crime problem of low-income housing to cost issues, leading to cramping housing units, leading to communal areas that no one is directly responsible for. It's a beautiful, heartbraking, and eyeopening HBO miniseries from the creator of "The Wire", that everybody should watch.
This place wasn't dangerous. Don't believe that bollocks from the TV series, Gomorrah. Utter bollocks. There are parts of Manchester more dangerous than this. Places like Eccles and Swinton. Places that are infested with young gangbangers, and where you have shootings everyday and people don't settle scores with knives, but swords.
@@spookydookme1138 bro I live in salford 😂 Yeh parts of it are a bit rough, but I can assure you, whether you choose to listen or not, you have way overhyped things. We have nothing in Manchester like what's in this video. Closest there was was South Manchester in the 80s/90s and that's all been demolished as well now
@@KillerDiaguR I live in Salford too, the Precinct Broadwalk area, one of the Towers. I was taking the piss, obviously Eccles and Swinton aren't that bad. But you do get some piss heads hanging around the bus station next to Morrisons, and if you want anything nicking from the Range or Morrisons, all you've got to do is ask them.
I live near there and I hate how that building turned out to be a hideout for criminals. When I was little and saw these building I really liked them, I even wanted to live there. Little did I know what was happening there..
lol..when I was younger I wanted to live in Forcella ,Quartiere and close to the port ..I visited and loved Naples far more than any other Italian city ...Forca Napoli
@@rawgab4439 Italy is so beautiful. Even the sails looked good from the outside. Is the Comorra as strong in reality as it was portrayed in the film? I recognize the sails from the movie.
Even tho they criminals that’s you guys community no I’m not a law abiding citizen where I’m from but I always showed love to the people who weren’t thugs don’t hate where you come from
A lot of these urbanistic nightmares were built in Italy in the same time period (the most famous I think are Corviale and Tor Bella Monaca in Rome, Quarto Oggiaro in Milan and the ZEN in Palermo) and every single one faced the same fate. Our brilliant governants somehow thought that isolated places filled with dirt poor people would not end up as ghettos. When things started going for the worse, they just "forgot" these spaces and left them to rot in the hands of organized crime.
The same with Ballymun in Dublin. Tower blocks built on the edge of the city with no infrastructure which led to high crime and the area became rundown. The place was eventually flattened and social housing was put in its place. High rise public housing hasn't worked here.
In america there were public housing projects too that were getting destroyed as well in a short time span. The 20th century seemed to have been riddled with this.
@@anonimoinnominati5824 I'm italian and I don't see any bullshit. The documentary is correct, a little bit "basic", but it's ok. Something like: "Vele di Scampia for dummies". Then, if you want to go deeper, go on, plenty of resources on internet.
They were built in the late 60s early 70s. After the earthquake more people starting to move in illegally. They are used by the members of O'sistema to hide, store weapons and sell drugs. As a kid I used to play in front of it with my cousins, seeing all the craziness around it. If you have no business there, don't go near or in it! But to me, it's a architecture so ugly that it's beautiful. But not just le vele are dangerous. Most parts of the Scampia area are no go areas if you have no business there. If you liked the movie, I suggest to watch the series. It shows how it went/,goes down. Very realistic!
@@AnomalyDocs I never lived there, my father is from there. But we used to go there a lot for long period of time. Like I said, as a kid playing soccer in front of it with my cousins and friends, we saw "things" but to us it was as normal as your neighbors dancing in the street. Things changed in the sense of more violence. Now they have these Scampia tours🤦♂️🤦♂️ so people can get a glimpse of the neighborhood. Have you ever been there or near? Great video though!!
Right? I just discovered their channel today and I’m addicted. The whole topic of anomalies are so interesting and these vids are so well made! I’m literally shocked at the fact they don’t have at least one million subscribers
I grew up in Scampia and lived there until 1996. It was rough and we didn't have much yes. But the sense of community was beautiful. Everybody looked out for everybody. It was a warm place full of love. Not perfect and with many problems but it was a good home. Nobody judged anyone for what they are. Today I live in one of the "nicer" areas of Napoli and everything is always clean and we never have any problems. But nobody knows or cares who I am. People don't even greet they are so self absorbed. Everybody only wants to be for themself. I could die alone in my apartment and nobody would even notice. This is the real nightmare... this is hell...
I am Chilean from an Italian mom from Rapallo Genova, and you right , always poor people are the most friendly, the most solidarity , and help each other , greetings!!
Just to squash this asap. The responsibilities of engineers and architects often overlap. Both professions are integral to the design and construction of structures, such as buildings and bridges. Architects design the space to meet client needs, as well as the aesthetic appearance of the inside and exterior of the building. Engineers' main responsibility is to ensure the design is safe and meets all appropriate building codes. Engineers concern themselves with making buildings safe and functional by selecting structural materials, determining the structural members of the design, and specify the electrical, heating, ventilation, air conditioning and plumbing systems. One way that engineers and architects communicate their ideas to each another is through blueprints, or technical drawings.
@@dgdg6143 They are literally both needed so if youre building like a hotel or a skyscraper, no architect signature, no building, ThAt ClEaR ENouGH FOr YOu. What a fucking child.
@@justinloward5015 Its all based on perspective really. From someones perspective that was raised there they may have enjoyed it, hated it, etc. People from a different perspective, one that comes from a different country with different housing situations would see that as "Slummy" for the lack of a better word. So of course your first response is a depressed feeling when seeing this from such a perspective.
Interesting and distressing video. I have real doubts that project could ever have been a success. The Streets in the Sky concept of the 1960s is one I'm not a believer in but I may be wrong. This video mirrors some of the issues I've heard of in the outskirts of certain bits of Paris. Large tower blocks and housing units, high unemployment among the tenants and occasional flare ups with the police. Tourists who visit Naples see the old city centre, maybe see the Volcano and Pompei and leave thinking what a lovely city, with all the clothes lines crossing the apartments, the loud friendly people and the lovely food and weather. They have no idea theres people living like this.
@A R you know what i find funny about this? Theres very similar buildings like this in Brazil, they even look a bit like prisions (fully fenced with eletric barbwire, high walls security), but, instead of poor people, is the middle class and rich who live in this places... The poor don't have fences in their houses.
Very true. I was told Naples wasn't safe and to be careful. But it was so beautiful, with Mt. Vesuvius, the harbor and the palm trees. And the food was so good!
@@SaracuraZN o problema nunca foi o projeto, e sim como eles tratam esse projetos, deixaram a coisa toda abandonada. Aqui no Brasil taxam caro, então o povo tem uma tendência de cuidar melhor.
Fascinating, thanks. Those buildings and walkways made a big impression on me as soon as I saw them in the Gomorrah series. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, isn't it?
At the end, the narrator points out something important and maybe forgotten by the viewers. La Vele di Scampia was one of the first of its own kind. The optimism of the architecture tells something. There was a hope for the future, which was thematic for that particular era. Unfortunately, a variety of factors led to it becoming a dystopia. Frivolous construction companies, stolen funds and funds being cut etc. leading to absence of maintenance. Architecture, indeed, shapes lives. Your episodes are amazing! What you do is unique and not like anything else on the platform I can think of!
In Brazil, we call it "CDHU". The big construction companies convinced the governments that we are facing a "housing problem" and purposefully manufactured one. The strategy and the business agreement between the construction companies and government representatives are very shady - most of them have tight ties with the owners of those companies - and the results will impact the real state market very much soon (the people who had real state - usually the rich politicians will get more for lower prices amid recession scenario). Those kind of mass projects that stack people on top of each other is a VERY troubled way to see how people live and the already rich people will get richer by scamming the poor (AGAIN)... To propose that as a "solution" and do not oversight the results (or aftermath the project when its properly done) for its problem (Housing problem) is just stupid... Like... A cook must know what he (or she) are making is good. How to know that huh?
As a big fan of Gomorrah I finally was able to visit Le Vele today. There are still a few remaining despite numerous claims all but one is still there. You can easily see why it became like this when you see how removed it is from the rest of Napoli so for those displaced in the earthquake it had to be impossible to find jobs with the infrastructure 42 years ago at that.
Le Vele di Scampia was one of the first "poor bins" where to swipe them in bulk. Italy is full of it (i live in Tor Bella Monaca, very similar district for how it has been ideated, and very similar problems) and they all became a cesspool of crime, drugs and poverty. This kind of mentality was dead at the start, you can't just hoard poor people with barely to no services (beside some communal halls) and think that anything else different would spawn from it.
Have you ever been to Hong Kong? Most of the cheaper suburbs are way, way, way worse designed and yet the crime rate is very, very low. Don't blame the architects, the design is actually pretty good, it's what people did with that was bad
But Hong Kong buildings have running water, toilets electricity, no leaks, good construction and the buildings were finished also didn't steal the money meant for the build.
Hong Kong city is full of people all over with electricity and water. But do you know old Hong Kong building called Kowloon castle? And there’s people still live in a cell barely you can lay down
Story of this complex reminds me some of the notorious projects in Chicago and Saint Louis that were dangerous and ghetto until they have been demolished
@@konstantinoslentaris9656 i just chek now on internet what was pruitt igoe and yes, that was crazy, in italy there aren t zone like this, but because we are a small country, but if u check hood like Bipiani Napoli or Ciambra of Gioiatauro, or Zen 2 of palermo, they are pretty similar to the 3rd world but is little compare to america we are smalls towns
That is what Margaret Thatcher did in Britain. They bought their house and started to create a garden, take care of the appearance of the property. In fact they created a garder industry that didn't exist before.
I find it very sad that the architect's vision was so tragically mishandled when brought to reality. Classic example of the road to hell being paved with good intentions.
As you noted, not the only Utopian housing structure where common areas weren't cared for and nothing went as intended. A lot of this can be traced back to the ideas of Le Corbusier. The whole International School of architecture gets a bad rap over it, and in many ways, deservedly so.
This is why it's part of an architect's job to be realistic. You gotta know your users. You have to design for them, not just an utopian community where everyone wants to be involved and contribute with upkeeping and the like. Obviously there's also the matter of poor execution which severely hampered the success of the complex, but I think this can still be a lesson in how you have to understand the people.
lol. It was never the architect’s fault. It’s also not entirely on the architect, the DEVELOPER, aka, whoever is commissioning the building has to communicate effectively, and honestly, about the conditions and uses. Also the camorra, unlike this video says, was there from the beginning i.e. during the construction phase, which is why it never had a chance because the materials and construction were sabotaged from the beginning.
Public Housing(at least in the U.S) with it's focus on maximum volume, lead to tall, ugly buildings that became havens for criminals. Public housing in the U.S often looks more like a prison than a home.
Public housing is a guaranteed slum. The residents have zero incentive to maintain it. So it decays then everyone wants out accelerating the degradation.
@@xxxxxxxx183 It's not free housing. Residents must pay a third of their income in rent each month. Even if you are only getting welfare you still have to pay.
This reminds me of the loads of tower blocks built in the 1960s in the UK which was bult badly and at risk of having an entire corner of the building collapsing due to a gas leak-explosion if built to the same design as Ronan Point but I think this estate is a lot worse than those common UK tower blocks
in a building with 16 apts and only 8 used and 8 empty for 20 years people couldnt even agree or care about fixing the water pump or garden, i can just imagine the hell hole this would be
@@fds7476 yeah but the one I live have a very interesting story, it was built in the 70s for the young dynamic families, the architecture is quite modern compared to other one that was built for the worker class, then the end of the 30 glorieuses hit and a lot of people of the working class started to live there but at same time the wealthy young families quit this place, the poor and the rich obviously can't live together, the next decade was full of drug and weapon trafficking, mafia, gang ect, it was a no man's land for outsider, even people who doesn't know very well this city know this place. Both Sarkozy and Holland came here, tbh it's not that dangerous but it's not a police friendly place either
@@nolanolivier6791 rich people always think they know better and that they know what poor people want . When in reality they haven’t a clue . All the people want is the right to a nice house and employment ... the rest will take care of itself . We don’t need people who live out in the leafy suburbs conducting what amounts to social experiments on the lives of real people
Lol. This is what happens when people imagine themselves to be 'intellectual' and believe utopian ideologies, and think that their ideologies will save the world. And the only people left to test their ideologies and philosophies are the poor.
Coming from someone born and raised in New York, I never imagined that there were people living in “projects” in places like Italy. I really assumed that large scale housing projects riddled with drugs and crime was uniquely an American cities issues. Sad to see it happen in Italy.
There's probably more of it in Italy, Spain, France etc than there is in the USA. Your eyes would be opened by MILES and miles of crumbling blocks as far as the eyes can see. I've seen it for myself in these countries and it shocked me coming from the uk. Craziness
Man I'm from Ireland and its the same fucking thing here even, large social housing areas on the edge of the city, no facilities for people , drugs, anti social issues, its a recipe for disaster. Had armed checkpoints on the roads in Dublin when things got violent a few years back, same as Naples, not as intense though, that la Scampia place has to have been the roughest spot in Europe.
The fact that it looked unfinished and run down from the beginning meant no one would ever take pride in where they lived. Putting low income people in a badly designed, ghetto neighbourhood with no opportunities for kids or work opportunities means this was inevitable. It’s sad if you look on street view you can see how much litter there is in the area, I wonder if they will still all be demolished
@@paulelderson934 The italian language has both "accento acuto" (é) and "accento grave" (è), so please refrain from correcting someone when you don't know what your talking about. In any case, Scampia doesn't have an ortographic (aka written) accent. OP was just correcting pronunciation.
@@paulelderson934 He put the accent correctly for Italian orthography (which is the matter of this conversation). He knows what he's talking about. You don't.
Ghettos in Germany?you funny man,people go from my country Serbia and nobody came back,Yeah ghetto everyvere.All ya live "ghetto" in your head and bc Rap music,wanabee thug life.Just asking,did you ever in you life go in store to bay a bread and eat just that all day for a mouth,came here and work for 350 e a mounth and be a "ghetto" ...you dont know shit
@@gloopdogg4861 So what's your point? Most cities have poverty areas and some of them get the ghetto name, it's not uncommon (unfortunately). As for the wannabe "thug life" people you talk about, those will either grow up or become actual criminals and that's a big problem. Finally, If your country is a shithole, don't blame everyone else because you grew up poor. I know what it's like but you look like a loser gatekeeping that shit.
@@MiGujack3 Thats not my point at all.Trust me i know what is "ghetto" and got nothing with how beldings look,thats all.A lot of people in your country got choice,thats not what 70 % of all world got...
Can you say camorra? Corruption in public works projects are endemic in Italy. It wasn’t the architect’s fault, at all. The camorra controlled the construction business when this was built, as it was being built, over-billing, theft, etc., is why they ran out of funding and the buildings were never built to the architect’s standards and why bad materials were used, things didn’t work etc. Research the history of most public works projects in southern Italy, it’s absolutely notorious. Of course the politicians got a cut out of all this, too.
The Ballymun Flats in Dublin, Ireland were a close second, my 1/2 Irish side went in there (had cousins that lived in there) and I, who have been through the worst neighborhoods in 1980s Brooklyn, NY, Crown Heights, Bed Stuy, Brownsville, parts of Gerritson Beach, etc. was surprised at the level of urban decay outside of 1970s/1980s NYC. I used to sell newspaper subs door to door, and they took us into some dangerous neighborhoods, where many times my life was threatened, never thinking this type of thing existed outside of Urban areas of the USA where much of the violence issue was caused mainly due to cultural differences, in addition to illegal activities.
Siccome hai scritto di essere siciliano ti scrivo in italiano: puoi portare qualcosa sui casalesi (occultamento di rifiuti radioattivi nel casertano e misteriosa morte del pentito Carmine Schiavone)?
@Paolo Caldini Io vengo da giù e Mazara del Vallo (città di mio padre) è piena di cumuli di rifiuti sotterrati nelle ex-cave di tufo (andando verso Marsala)
Non credo proprio sia siciliano, ha sbagliato le pronunce di tutti i nomi italiani nel video e il commento di risposta è palesemente scritto con Google Translate
nice architecture, but aren't they a bit too close to the beach? by current standards, they would be labled as an "eco-mostro" (ecological monster) in Italy
Wait 100 thousand residents??? Is that correct? Are you sure you can fit so many people into a building? Cause I live in a city with 100 000 people and the city is more than 30 kilometers long and no idea how wide it sounds very strange to be able to put all those people into a building, unless we are talking about a stadium were everyone is sitting glued to each other
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At 3:36 the writing on the "balcony" means "everyone grows up alone"
True💔
Its actually "everyone grows up alone if...", there's a "se" at the end, so the sentence probably continues.
@@CreepyMemes yeah thanks for sharing I didn't notice. I looked it up on the internet and it's a poem by Danilo Dolci (Italian educator and activist) entitled "Ciascuno cresce solo se sognato"
@@nightsmakestories oh interesting thanks for sharing
@@nightsmakestories"each one grows up only if dreamed"
I've never seen a low income housing project, created by some dreamy eyed architect, that wasn't a dystopian nightmare. Human beings must be a mystery to them.
A simple solution: architects for social housing should be contractually obliged to move into their creation.
actually social housing works, yes there are some bad examples that are news worthy while the working ones no one cares about. I guess a good exampel of working social housing is most soviet architecture with self-sustaining nabourhoods. counties like Denmark and Sweden have social housing with rules for mixture like (25% pensioners 25% studens 25%families and 25% single rooms), that works great and guess you chould say all of it is social housing catering for low income earners but with different social capital and values making sure it stays balanced.
@@Mira_linn "That works great" no evidence or even argumentation offered or even thought of.
@@pneron2032 much social housing in Europe is 100 times safer than most American neighborhoods in the private market
@@shaftlamer this is government failure in a non-socialist state lol
Short answer: corruption --> degradation --> sloppiness --> fatalistic resignation - all linked in a vicious circle. Plus the "broken windows" effect.
Similar to the block shown in the film "Gomorrah"
The "broken windows" effect has been proven to be a symptom and not a cause.
I think the short and obvious answer is that there was zero privacy.
Even the initial design, it's terrible to live in the boxes they designed. But yeah because of the corruption it was overcrowded & non-functional when it was utilized first, thus doomed to fail.
@@-Atmos1 It was the blocks shown in Gomorrah. Short attention span hey? It showed that in the clip.
@@-Atmos1 It's the actual one from Gomorra
The architect thought the residents would care for the communal areas xD
Yes, he also believed in Santa Claus
That requires a good community. Not all people form good communities.
Its called the common goods dilemma. Thats the reason while this kind of brutalist socialist things dont work and will never work
Communism
@hanikrummi hundursvin those who bother get taken advantage of by others who treat the place like a landfill. Who wants to clean up after others for free or to try and invest in personal projects in a public area where random kids can trash it on a whim?
I genuinely believe architects from the 1960's - 1980's were sadists.
They were naive upper middle class idealists with little idea as to how ordinary people live and interact with each other. I recall as a child that most houses were designed by builders or non degree trained people using appropriate housing patterns passed down from generations past, what is known as vernacular architecture. Some idealistic architects tried to build fancy roofs and housing styles more appropriate to the mediterranean hot spots rather than to cold and damp Ireland. These fancy houses leaked badly and had to be rectified by common sense and practical builders in order to work properly. Balconies were glazed in to keep in heat and keep out rain, flat roofs were redone in a tiled pitched style, or better yet slate, to keep out driving rain and several other forgotten details known by our ancestors but omitted by the arrogant architects more interested in style and appearance than actual function, ease of maintenance and durability. Modern architects have improved hugely in this regard but need to be watched carefully as developers, often working at 1000 units at a time are the new devils in the building world.
They still are. How many really beautiful buildings, have been built in the world in the last 20 years?
@@roby72s Hungary has laws in place that buildings have to have historical architecture. The stuff they build is beautiful and you wouldn't know it was built so recently, it looks like 17th century kinda architecture.
@@keighlancoe5933 I am glad for you my Hungarian friend. Is it a recent law or has been around for along time? Hungary was on my holiday wish list. I hope that as soon as we are allowed travel again, I will be able to do so.
No, the architects had great visions. The people buying into those visions were let down by the authorities.
“Funds were stolen” it can’t get anymore Italian than that loooool
Sadly, yup.
wha do you mean, i no no. lmfao. Since its begining.
so naive to believe it's just an italian thing. lol
@@Fra42below ha, not JUST an italian thing - but DEFINITELY an italian thing lol
Corruption.....
I grew up in one of these complexes in Glasgow. We lived 8 levels high....the building had 17 levels. Red Road flats across the railway tracks were 32 storeys high. We had dozens of such complexes in Glasgow. On a windy day (many of those in Scotland)...the whole building sounded haunted. Doors would shut and elevators would sometimes take you to abandoned levels in darkness.
Oh shit, I'd love to see a video about this place!
My uncle has lived in 30 storey trellick tower since 1977, it was built by enio goldfinger. He lived on the 30th floor for 15yrs. It does sway slightly in high winds.
Aswad wrote the song Ghetto in the sky, The Clash wrote up in heaven about trellick tower. For a long time it was a vertical ghetto. There was at least one person jumping off a upper landing every year. One time a base jumper jumped from the top, his parachute never opened
Then the council moved out the problem families, installed cctv, and put a 12hr concierge at the entrance.
A friend originally squatted his flat around 1980, a few of the residents did. Eventually they granted them tenancies. He bought his flat years ago under the right to buy scheme for around £50,000. He rents it out now for £2,200 a month. A 3 bed flat now sells for £1,000,000
When ever you hear someone say they want to creat a utopian society...RUN THE OTHER WAY!
"I want to create a dystopia" ?
@@SI-ln6tcRun towards them.
This phenomenon of 60's brutalist tower blocks was played out in lots of places where 'visionary' architects created dystopian nightmares partly because as Roger Scruton suggested...
"There is a deep human need for beauty and if you ignore that need in architecture, your buildings will not last".
Yeah, true, like communism and Marxism
@@Andredias164 run away from that too. Its a lie, there is no such thing as a utopia, this is a perfect example of what it becomes, and if you want to see more of it just look at russian flats. What a depressing way to live. This shouldnt be allowed.
Brutalist projects + short term focused authorities + shitty humans= this and many other such scenarios.
You can’t over emphasize the shitty humans part
Typical shitty Naples.
Many such cases!
Maffia.corruption.etc.....
@@fabrizzioperfetti6807 Didn't work out any differently at the Broadwater Farm estate, Tottenham, London.
The biggest issue here in Naples is #corruption from all angles.
Not only in Naples.
Not only there my friend... It is world wide.... some places are just more evident, some others not so much... I think those kinda of shameful corrupted scandals and how we see them are related to the culture we live in.
Don't think you have anything we haven't got.... (-;
I'm in England, we have the same amount of corruption here, it's just on different levels.
@@thefreedomguyuk It's even worse in England.
I honestly think the US is taking the lead for most corrupted
Reminded me of the "Elefante Blanco" building in Argentina, that was intended to be a hospital but it was never finished and it ended up being left there abandoned, and a lot of squatting families made it their homes, dividing it into apartments.
Eu q edificio es?
This channel is such a gem, it’s bound to get the recognition it deserves
I live in Chicago and this is very reminiscent of the Cabrini-Green projects. It’s a shame that this kind of thing does not ever seem to work for anyone but criminals. I am not saying at all that everyone livings in these places are criminals but it certainly makes it tough for the good people that have to live there. Love your documentaries, well done!
Cabrini green was my first thought. Any place you pack that many dirt poor people together is gonna be advantageous to the criminal element
They can work but only with heavy funding, more green space and trees and 5-8 stories instead of 10-40 stories. They defund and don't want to fix anything. They are also isolated from the rest of the city. They should also be purpose built to cover issues the people have.
It's impressive that this building is essentially purpose built for a perfect drug dealer den.
@TOPWORSTMEDIA fuck dude lol i was thinking that
It's going to be demolished between 2021 and 2022
You should watch "Show me a hero" that tackles this problem in 80's Yonkers. One character assigned to oversight, insists that the increase of shared spaces leads to increase of neglect. He argues that no matter the race or social status, people will protect what's theirs.
It ties the crime problem of low-income housing to cost issues, leading to cramping housing units, leading to communal areas that no one is directly responsible for. It's a beautiful, heartbraking, and eyeopening HBO miniseries from the creator of "The Wire", that everybody should watch.
@@francis8062 Until the money disappears. Again.
@@SimunSansa This looks awesome. I just added it to my "Whenever I pay for a month of HBO" watchlist.
One of Europe's most infamous areas but a good ten years late to the party as they've mostly been demolished now
It was still getting demolished last year. Did you even watch it? Even the TV show first aired in 2014. Anyways.
This place wasn't dangerous. Don't believe that bollocks from the TV series, Gomorrah. Utter bollocks. There are parts of Manchester more dangerous than this. Places like Eccles and Swinton. Places that are infested with young gangbangers, and where you have shootings everyday and people don't settle scores with knives, but swords.
@@spookydookme1138 bro I live in salford 😂 Yeh parts of it are a bit rough, but I can assure you, whether you choose to listen or not, you have way overhyped things. We have nothing in Manchester like what's in this video. Closest there was was South Manchester in the 80s/90s and that's all been demolished as well now
@@spookydookme1138 your talking out your arse mate 🤣😂
@@KillerDiaguR I live in Salford too, the Precinct Broadwalk area, one of the Towers. I was taking the piss, obviously Eccles and Swinton aren't that bad. But you do get some piss heads hanging around the bus station next to Morrisons, and if you want anything nicking from the Range or Morrisons, all you've got to do is ask them.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
- Bruce dinkinson
I live near there and I hate how that building turned out to be a hideout for criminals. When I was little and saw these building I really liked them, I even wanted to live there. Little did I know what was happening there..
lol..when I was younger I wanted to live in Forcella ,Quartiere and close to the port ..I visited and loved Naples far more than any other Italian city ...Forca Napoli
@@rawgab4439 no you didn’t
@@purplefabian Si ...100 percento ;))
@@rawgab4439 Italy is so beautiful. Even the sails looked good from the outside. Is the Comorra as strong in reality as it was portrayed in the film? I recognize the sails from the movie.
Even tho they criminals that’s you guys community no I’m not a law abiding citizen where I’m from but I always showed love to the people who weren’t thugs don’t hate where you come from
A lot of these urbanistic nightmares were built in Italy in the same time period (the most famous I think are Corviale and Tor Bella Monaca in Rome, Quarto Oggiaro in Milan and the ZEN in Palermo) and every single one faced the same fate.
Our brilliant governants somehow thought that isolated places filled with dirt poor people would not end up as ghettos.
When things started going for the worse, they just "forgot" these spaces and left them to rot in the hands of organized crime.
Pffft! That was the intention all along
Same thing happened in Chicago. Cabrini-Green, Robert Taylor homes, etc etc
This happened a lot in England flats were demolished within 20/30 years of being built
A lot were still being paid for after they'd been demolished and new housing built where they once stood!!!
The same with Ballymun in Dublin. Tower blocks built on the edge of the city with no infrastructure which led to high crime and the area became rundown. The place was eventually flattened and social housing was put in its place. High rise public housing hasn't worked here.
Broadwater farm is one of the last stil standing
In america there were public housing projects too that were getting destroyed as well in a short time span. The 20th century seemed to have been riddled with this.
@@frankiewilde7791I'm from ballymun
Amazing work!
thanks buddy!
Bullshits!! In the last 10 years everything changed, 3 of the "Vele" were demolished and the rest were closed and abandoned.
Watch your channel, keep it up
@@anonimoinnominati5824 I'm italian and I don't see any bullshit. The documentary is correct, a little bit "basic", but it's ok. Something like: "Vele di Scampia for dummies". Then, if you want to go deeper, go on, plenty of resources on internet.
@@g.r.793 Sei italiano?? E allora perchè rispondi in inglese??
Thanks for this. Ever since watching the Gomorrah movie I have wanted to know the background of these fascinating structures. Keep up the good work!
Chris Ramsden thank you!
I 2nd that. Thanks very much
They were built in the late 60s early 70s. After the earthquake more people starting to move in illegally. They are used by the members of O'sistema to hide, store weapons and sell drugs. As a kid I used to play in front of it with my cousins, seeing all the craziness around it. If you have no business there, don't go near or in it! But to me, it's a architecture so ugly that it's beautiful. But not just le vele are dangerous. Most parts of the Scampia area are no go areas if you have no business there. If you liked the movie, I suggest to watch the series. It shows how it went/,goes down. Very realistic!
@@TweekerDub Thanks for your message! When did you live there as a kid?
@@AnomalyDocs I never lived there, my father is from there. But we used to go there a lot for long period of time. Like I said, as a kid playing soccer in front of it with my cousins and friends, we saw "things" but to us it was as normal as your neighbors dancing in the street. Things changed in the sense of more violence. Now they have these Scampia tours🤦♂️🤦♂️ so people can get a glimpse of the neighborhood. Have you ever been there or near? Great video though!!
Why on Earth haven't Netflix picked you up for your own series yet? Absolutely fascinating content.
Thank you so much! Tell your friends :)
Right? I just discovered their channel today and I’m addicted. The whole topic of anomalies are so interesting and these vids are so well made! I’m literally shocked at the fact they don’t have at least one million subscribers
@@Buut3rscotch100 Thank you Alicia!
Série Gomorra in HBo
I grew up in Scampia and lived there until 1996. It was rough and we didn't have much yes. But the sense of community was beautiful. Everybody looked out for everybody. It was a warm place full of love. Not perfect and with many problems but it was a good home. Nobody judged anyone for what they are. Today I live in one of the "nicer" areas of Napoli and everything is always clean and we never have any problems. But nobody knows or cares who I am. People don't even greet they are so self absorbed. Everybody only wants to be for themself. I could die alone in my apartment and nobody would even notice. This is the real nightmare... this is hell...
great what you said.i thought about it before i saw your comment.greeting from greece
It’s become like that in the USA too. Greetings 👋🏼
I am Chilean from an Italian mom from Rapallo Genova, and you right , always poor people are the most friendly, the most solidarity , and help each other , greetings!!
What about the Cammora?
@@brandaonb4249 ....no answer.
Ever since watching the movie Gomorrah and reading Saviano's book that it was based on, I've been fascinated with Scampia. Thanks for this
Thank you for checking us out. You might also enjoy our episodes about 'Guryong Village' and 'Rochdale College'.
@@AnomalyDocs subbed man:) , will give them a watch
@@jk7690 have you seen the series Gomorrah?
Best show ever IMO.
@@dannyduggan4324 gomorrah is simply outstanding. I've watched it several times and it's beautiful and enthralling.
@@paddycowhey3406 completely agree. Just rewatched it after seeing L'immortale.
Definitely my favourite show.
Reminds me of the walled city of Kowloon, super interesting!
check out our Rochdale College story for more weird buildings!
@@AnomalyDocs will do!
Gorgeous girl!!!😘😍
I was getting more of a Pruitt igoe or Cabrini green vibe
That is old history haha .They demolished everything 。
i hope your channel blows up soon. it showed up in my recommended outta nowhere. this is really interesting stuff
Thanks you so much
Never entered his mind that he was engineering a ghetto??
No. Because he was an architect. An engineer would not build such crap LOL 😆
@@dgdg6143 lol an engieneer couldnt build anything without an architect so I guess youre right
Just to squash this asap.
The responsibilities of engineers and architects often overlap. Both professions are integral to the design and construction of structures, such as buildings and bridges. Architects design the space to meet client needs, as well as the aesthetic appearance of the inside and exterior of the building. Engineers' main responsibility is to ensure the design is safe and meets all appropriate building codes. Engineers concern themselves with making buildings safe and functional by selecting structural materials, determining the structural members of the design, and specify the electrical, heating, ventilation, air conditioning and plumbing systems. One way that engineers and architects communicate their ideas to each another is through blueprints, or technical drawings.
@@marxthesocialist5231 no engineer signature, no project. Is that clear enough?
@@dgdg6143 They are literally both needed so if youre building like a hotel or a skyscraper, no architect signature, no building, ThAt ClEaR ENouGH FOr YOu. What a fucking child.
This was so good! I like that you take a VERY deep dive into subjects that I may not know much about. Well done!
Thanks so much!
I’ve walked through this place, not for the faint hearted 😅
Nice neighbours?
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 I bet
There's nothing bad about this Place, i was Born and grown in there. You have to live there, to talk about that.
@@justinloward5015 si
@@justinloward5015 Its all based on perspective really. From someones perspective that was raised there they may have enjoyed it, hated it, etc. People from a different perspective, one that comes from a different country with different housing situations would see that as "Slummy" for the lack of a better word. So of course your first response is a depressed feeling when seeing this from such a perspective.
Imagine the noises coming out of that jungle around midnight
wtf is that supposed to mean
@@McBANANARAMAMAN never heard of the concrete jungle ?
@@McBANANARAMAMAN concrete jungle !!
You can't imagine. The noise from any apartment block in Italy is unbelievable (-;
@@thefreedomguyuk don't you have other stupid stereotypes to propose to us? 🤦
Interesting and distressing video. I have real doubts that project could ever have been a success. The Streets in the Sky concept of the 1960s is one I'm not a believer in but I may be wrong.
This video mirrors some of the issues I've heard of in the outskirts of certain bits of Paris. Large tower blocks and housing units, high unemployment among the tenants and occasional flare ups with the police.
Tourists who visit Naples see the old city centre, maybe see the Volcano and Pompei and leave thinking what a lovely city, with all the clothes lines crossing the apartments, the loud friendly people and the lovely food and weather. They have no idea theres people living like this.
@A R you know what i find funny about this?
Theres very similar buildings like this in Brazil, they even look a bit like prisions (fully fenced with eletric barbwire, high walls security), but, instead of poor people, is the middle class and rich who live in this places...
The poor don't have fences in their houses.
@@efxnews4776 I noticed this, when I visited the country.
Very true. I was told Naples wasn't safe and to be careful. But it was so beautiful, with Mt. Vesuvius, the harbor and the palm trees. And the food was so good!
@@efxnews4776 esses AP aí é pra playboy aqui no Brasil 😂
@@SaracuraZN o problema nunca foi o projeto, e sim como eles tratam esse projetos, deixaram a coisa toda abandonada.
Aqui no Brasil taxam caro, então o povo tem uma tendência de cuidar melhor.
Fascinating, thanks. Those buildings and walkways made a big impression on me as soon as I saw them in the Gomorrah series. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, isn't it?
At the end, the narrator points out something important and maybe forgotten by the viewers. La Vele di Scampia was one of the first of its own kind. The optimism of the architecture tells something. There was a hope for the future, which was thematic for that particular era. Unfortunately, a variety of factors led to it becoming a dystopia. Frivolous construction companies, stolen funds and funds being cut etc. leading to absence of maintenance. Architecture, indeed, shapes lives.
Your episodes are amazing! What you do is unique and not like anything else on the platform I can think of!
Those buildings are a perfect place to sell drugs
Exactly what the Camorra figured out for years
The sails, as they were known, were demolished about two years ago.
In Brazil, we call it "CDHU". The big construction companies convinced the governments that we are facing a "housing problem" and purposefully manufactured one. The strategy and the business agreement between the construction companies and government representatives are very shady - most of them have tight ties with the owners of those companies - and the results will impact the real state market very much soon (the people who had real state - usually the rich politicians will get more for lower prices amid recession scenario).
Those kind of mass projects that stack people on top of each other is a VERY troubled way to see how people live and the already rich people will get richer by scamming the poor (AGAIN)... To propose that as a "solution" and do not oversight the results (or aftermath the project when its properly done) for its problem (Housing problem) is just stupid... Like... A cook must know what he (or she) are making is good. How to know that huh?
As a big fan of Gomorrah I finally was able to visit Le Vele today. There are still a few remaining despite numerous claims all but one is still there. You can easily see why it became like this when you see how removed it is from the rest of Napoli so for those displaced in the earthquake it had to be impossible to find jobs with the infrastructure 42 years ago at that.
Very nice! I like your style of formatting in your videos, you're doing great.
glad you liked it!!
This is some amazing content, you deserve 500x the subscribers.
thank you!!
@@AnomalyDocs I threw you onto my list of favorite RUclipsrs with less than 2000 subs. You deserve more views and interactions.
Le Vele di Scampia was one of the first "poor bins" where to swipe them in bulk. Italy is full of it (i live in Tor Bella Monaca, very similar district for how it has been ideated, and very similar problems) and they all became a cesspool of crime, drugs and poverty.
This kind of mentality was dead at the start, you can't just hoard poor people with barely to no services (beside some communal halls) and think that anything else different would spawn from it.
Have you ever been to Hong Kong? Most of the cheaper suburbs are way, way, way worse designed and yet the crime rate is very, very low. Don't blame the architects, the design is actually pretty good, it's what people did with that was bad
The design is awful. Did you even watch the video? Did you miss the electricity issues, the leaks etc?
Also, the Chinese fascist regime in HK “helps” dispose of any undesirable people.
But Hong Kong buildings have running water, toilets electricity, no leaks, good construction and the buildings were finished also didn't steal the money meant for the build.
Hong Kong city is full of people all over with electricity and water. But do you know old Hong Kong building called Kowloon castle? And there’s people still live in a cell barely you can lay down
@@bonitobonita9263 This actually quite reminded me of Kowloon Walled City!
Same thing happened in Dublin, Ireland.
A place called Ballymun.
Was about to say the same thing!
Only in the last few days the first fatal shooting of 2021. Near Ballymun.
Story of this complex reminds me some of the notorious projects in Chicago and Saint Louis that were dangerous and ghetto until they have been demolished
Was it Pruitt Igoe? I was going to do that one originally but I got really into the Scampia story.
@@AnomalyDocs Yes, exactly. And, also, some notorious Chicago projects, but Pruid Igo was also a thirld-world conditions complex.
@@konstantinoslentaris9656 i just chek now on internet what was pruitt igoe and yes, that was crazy, in italy there aren t zone like this, but because we are a small country, but if u check hood like Bipiani Napoli or Ciambra of Gioiatauro, or Zen 2 of palermo, they are pretty similar to the 3rd world but is little compare to america we are smalls towns
Wtf you deserve much more subscribers. Good job!
Thank you!
I wonder what romances blossomed there, what wild parties were thrown, friendships forged & good times were had. I bet there were a few
Same.. if the walls could tell stories..
Disco Dub : You're a poet, my friend.
Romance? People can't even take a walk without being in costant fear of getting harassed o robbed
@disco dub I like your comment.
@@Niggaracee445 no doubt that was an everyday thing there man. I’m talking about the beautiful sparks of good stuff that must’ve happened there
wow that was really awesome, I'm going to subscribe and binge-watch all of your other vids.
Thank you!
For the majority of people to do their part in the upkeep, they must feel some sort of ownership to the building.
That is what Margaret Thatcher did in Britain. They bought their house and started to create a garden, take care of the appearance of the property. In fact they created a garder industry that didn't exist before.
Correction: there were 7 buildings, with building G’s failed demolition in 1997 and successful one in 1998.
I find it very sad that the architect's vision was so tragically mishandled when brought to reality. Classic example of the road to hell being paved with good intentions.
I'm happy RUclips recommended this channel to me
I think I've seen these buildings in the movie Gomorra.
@hanikrummi hundursvin no he doesn't
@@samuelobelo894 yes he does
@@Visbalalam ok maybe he does
This was so good and interesting, thank you!
As you noted, not the only Utopian housing structure where common areas weren't cared for and nothing went as intended. A lot of this can be traced back to the ideas of Le Corbusier. The whole International School of architecture gets a bad rap over it, and in many ways, deservedly so.
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Thank you!
Really good video, keep up with the good work!
Thank you so much!
I like your no nonsense approach, refreshing. Cheers :)
I lived in London alleyways are never a good idea especially dark alleyways where lights can be removed.
This is cool! You just earned a new subscriber :D
thank you so much!
This is why it's part of an architect's job to be realistic. You gotta know your users. You have to design for them, not just an utopian community where everyone wants to be involved and contribute with upkeeping and the like. Obviously there's also the matter of poor execution which severely hampered the success of the complex, but I think this can still be a lesson in how you have to understand the people.
lol. It was never the architect’s fault. It’s also not entirely on the architect, the DEVELOPER, aka, whoever is commissioning the building has to communicate effectively, and honestly, about the conditions and uses.
Also the camorra, unlike this video says, was there from the beginning i.e. during the construction phase, which is why it never had a chance because the materials and construction were sabotaged from the beginning.
God help these people.
Or anyone who makes products in general
very interesting thanks!
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Glad you liked it!
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I am very impressed with the amount of work u put in these videos
I found a new fav channel
Thank you! Glad you watched!
Fascinating - those things are MASSIVE! Would have liked more details of the insides but man....what an interesting place.
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This is an incredible documentary on The Sails. Subscribed!
Public Housing(at least in the U.S) with it's focus on maximum volume, lead to tall, ugly buildings that became havens for criminals. Public housing in the U.S often looks more like a prison than a home.
Public housing is a guaranteed slum. The residents have zero incentive to maintain it. So it decays then everyone wants out accelerating the degradation.
What do you expect from free housing
@@xxxxxxxx183 It's not free housing. Residents must pay a third of their income in rent each month. Even if you are only getting welfare you still have to pay.
@@fr2ncm9 lmao
Great Video!! Do more on housing projects around the world 😮 so interesting these projects and people, culture!! It’s pretty dope!
A very good representation of why you can't rely on people's good will, especially when you want to force it and do it artificially.
Thank you. Very interesting.
This reminds me of the loads of tower blocks built in the 1960s in the UK which was bult badly and at risk of having an entire corner of the building collapsing due to a gas leak-explosion if built to the same design as Ronan Point but I think this estate is a lot worse than those common UK tower blocks
Interesting doc about something I never knew about. Thanks.
Reminds me of Pruitt Igoe in St. Louis. I feel sorry for those people trapped in such a soulless environment.
North St. Louis is where they Filmed “Escape from New York”
Very solid short documentary. The Geography of Nowhere meets The Planner's Dream Goes Wrong.
Did the architect live there ? I would hazard a guess that he did not.
in a building with 16 apts and only 8 used and 8 empty for 20 years people couldnt even agree or care about fixing the water pump or garden, i can just imagine the hell hole this would be
Remind me of where I live in France, it was so notorious that two president went near my house to calm the situation
The Banlieues? :I
@@fds7476 yeah but the one I live have a very interesting story, it was built in the 70s for the young dynamic families, the architecture is quite modern compared to other one that was built for the worker class, then the end of the 30 glorieuses hit and a lot of people of the working class started to live there but at same time the wealthy young families quit this place, the poor and the rich obviously can't live together, the next decade was full of drug and weapon trafficking, mafia, gang ect, it was a no man's land for outsider, even people who doesn't know very well this city know this place. Both Sarkozy and Holland came here, tbh it's not that dangerous but it's not a police friendly place either
@@gura1027 What is it called? I would love to visit, it's interesting to me
I just this channel and after 1 minute i subscribed.Great Content
thank you!
This is what happens when rich people are allowed to experiment with the lives of poor people
I was literally thinking exactly that, when I read your comment.
@@nolanolivier6791 rich people always think they know better and that they know what poor people want . When in reality they haven’t a clue . All the people want is the right to a nice house and employment ... the rest will take care of itself . We don’t need people who live out in the leafy suburbs conducting what amounts to social experiments on the lives of real people
Lol. This is what happens when people imagine themselves to be 'intellectual' and believe utopian ideologies, and think that their ideologies will save the world. And the only people left to test their ideologies and philosophies are the poor.
It’s when rich people are completely unaware of what poverty does to the brain.
Poor people have no clue, that’s why they are poor
Very interesting and informative video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
You should do a clip on "las 3000 viviendas" in Seville,Spain..cops have only been going in for the past 10 years,but it's still pretty bad.
thank you for this video! it was really interesting to go through. I'll surely check the channel
Coming from someone born and raised in New York, I never imagined that there were people living in “projects” in places like Italy. I really assumed that large scale housing projects riddled with drugs and crime was uniquely an American cities issues. Sad to see it happen in Italy.
There's probably more of it in Italy, Spain, France etc than there is in the USA. Your eyes would be opened by MILES and miles of crumbling blocks as far as the eyes can see. I've seen it for myself in these countries and it shocked me coming from the uk. Craziness
Man I'm from Ireland and its the same fucking thing here even, large social housing areas on the edge of the city, no facilities for people , drugs, anti social issues, its a recipe for disaster.
Had armed checkpoints on the roads in Dublin when things got violent a few years back, same as Naples, not as intense though, that la Scampia place has to have been the roughest spot in Europe.
UK has the same thing. We call them "estates" lots of poverty, drugs, violence and crime.
@@harrymail7 we have nothing like scampia in the UK. The continent has way worse areas than we do, our bad areas are pretty tame by comparison
@@KillerDiaguR Essex, Grimsby,Blackpool, half of poor London looking like a warzone, and the list goes on. UK has its great share of slum aswell.
Excellent documantation!!
26 square feet, huh? Viewers should keep in mind a prison cell is 6x8 feet or 48 square feet. These rooms were half the size of prison cells.
The fact that it looked unfinished and run down from the beginning meant no one would ever take pride in where they lived. Putting low income people in a badly designed, ghetto neighbourhood with no opportunities for kids or work opportunities means this was inevitable. It’s sad if you look on street view you can see how much litter there is in the area, I wonder if they will still all be demolished
Reminded me immediately of the doomed Pruitt-Igoe projects in St. Louis.
Bollocks, Steve. What you meant to say is that it reminds you of Scotch Corner in Eccles.
@@spookydookme1138 your really pushing this 'manchester is well rough' message😂 theres places so much worse, get over yourself.
@@benoneill4318 Have you been to Little Hulton? If you've not, don't go there after dark.
@@spookydookme1138 on halloween im sure it is.
@@spookydookme1138 yes there’s nothing compared to the racial and social injustices of scotch corner
Very interesting video!
In modern Russia they call it "A new type of extremely comfortable housing."
thanks to youtube recommendations i found this channel, great video 👍
Was the problem the shape or design of the buildings ? Or the type of people put there
As a formal truck-driver, I went a lot to Napoli. Never had problems but the outskirts there are no-go’s…
it is "Scampìa", not "Scámpia" stress goes on the "i". They are\were also full of asbestos
So was everything else built at the time 🤷♂️
If you're going to correct where the accent is, at least put them in *thís* way, not in *thàt* way.
@@paulelderson934 The italian language has both "accento acuto" (é) and "accento grave" (è), so please refrain from correcting someone when you don't know what your talking about.
In any case, Scampia doesn't have an ortographic (aka written) accent. OP was just correcting pronunciation.
@@paulelderson934 He put the accent correctly for Italian orthography (which is the matter of this conversation). He knows what he's talking about. You don't.
Who gives a shit…
Fascinating! Thank you!
Similar ghettos existed in Berlin before they got torn down, can't remember the name.
Ghettos in Germany?you funny man,people go from my country Serbia and nobody came back,Yeah ghetto everyvere.All ya live "ghetto" in your head and bc Rap music,wanabee thug life.Just asking,did you ever in you life go in store to bay a bread and eat just that all day for a mouth,came here and work for 350 e a mounth and be a "ghetto" ...you dont know shit
@@gloopdogg4861 So what's your point? Most cities have poverty areas and some of them get the ghetto name, it's not uncommon (unfortunately). As for the wannabe "thug life" people you talk about, those will either grow up or become actual criminals and that's a big problem. Finally, If your country is a shithole, don't blame everyone else because you grew up poor. I know what it's like but you look like a loser gatekeeping that shit.
@@MiGujack3 Thats not my point at all.Trust me i know what is "ghetto" and got nothing with how beldings look,thats all.A lot of people in your country got choice,thats not what 70 % of all world got...
What an excellent report.
I love how these buildings have a will of their own !
Can you say camorra? Corruption in public works projects are endemic in Italy.
It wasn’t the architect’s fault, at all.
The camorra controlled the construction business when this was built, as it was being built, over-billing, theft, etc., is why they ran out of funding and the buildings were never built to the architect’s standards and why bad materials were used, things didn’t work etc.
Research the history of most public works projects in southern Italy, it’s absolutely notorious.
Of course the politicians got a cut out of all this, too.
What a mess. In Germany apartments, each resident is on the cleaning schedule. God forbid if I forgot to sweep and mop the common stairwell lol.
Not always. Depends on the WEG
The Ballymun Flats in Dublin, Ireland were a close second, my 1/2 Irish side went in there (had cousins that lived in there) and I, who have been through the worst neighborhoods in 1980s Brooklyn, NY, Crown Heights, Bed Stuy, Brownsville, parts of Gerritson Beach, etc. was surprised at the level of urban decay outside of 1970s/1980s NYC. I used to sell newspaper subs door to door, and they took us into some dangerous neighborhoods, where many times my life was threatened, never thinking this type of thing existed outside of Urban areas of the USA where much of the violence issue was caused mainly due to cultural differences, in addition to illegal activities.
Siccome hai scritto di essere siciliano ti scrivo in italiano: puoi portare qualcosa sui casalesi (occultamento di rifiuti radioattivi nel casertano e misteriosa morte del pentito Carmine Schiavone)?
Grazie per il tuo messaggio. Darò un'occhiata a questo.
@Paolo Caldini anche sotto alla brebemi
@Paolo Caldini
Io vengo da giù e Mazara del Vallo (città di mio padre) è piena di cumuli di rifiuti sotterrati nelle ex-cave di tufo (andando verso Marsala)
Non credo proprio sia siciliano, ha sbagliato le pronunce di tutti i nomi italiani nel video e il commento di risposta è palesemente scritto con Google Translate
Watching the video from an apartment that overlooks the Marina from Villeneuve-Loubet is pretty surreal.
Some of the most coveted apartments in Europe at the time!
Anomaly Documentaries they are still pretty cool now, about 1000 euros for a week or so I think.
nice architecture, but aren't they a bit too close to the beach? by current standards, they would be labled as an "eco-mostro" (ecological monster) in Italy
@@backslash68 not really a beach there, since it's a marina building.
Le vele are buildings not a neighborhood, it's located in our neighborhood of Secondogliano.
Scampia semmai
@@stefciko5831 si, ma Scampia fa parte di Secondigliano
@@TweekerDub si ma è un quartiere diverso ormai
@@stefciko5831 come mai?
@@TweekerDub e si è distaccato
Wait 100 thousand residents??? Is that correct? Are you sure you can fit so many people into a building?
Cause I live in a city with 100 000 people and the city is more than 30 kilometers long and no idea how wide it sounds very strange to be able to put all those people into a building, unless we are talking about a stadium were everyone is sitting glued to each other
There were more of these Vele, i think like 5 or 7. And Naples has the highest population density of the country