This video was originally part of Dr. Greger's webinar all about osteoporosis. You can watch that full recording, which includes a great Q&A: nutritionfacts.org/webinar/preventing-and-treating-osteoporosis/
I've had osteoporosis for years and the doctors always pushed Osteo drugs, starting with Fosamax, then to other classes of drugs. I usually had a negative reaction to them almost immediately, except Forteo, but then that is a daily shot in the stomach, so I stopped that after 8 months. I now refuse any osteo meds, but had gone back on HRT (I'm low risk there and it is only estrogen since I don't have a uterus or ovaries). My osteoporosis has leveled off and not gotten better or worse for 7 years now, so I am OK with that. I have been a runner for 45 years and plant-based eater, who also supplements with Vit D3 and K2. If that's not enough, so be it.
@mad8298 i have crohns disease, and several more issues, and ive had to taken prednisone for over ten years. Now I apparently have osteoporosis and have alread fractured 4 ribs, 2 vertebrae and my hip. Im 45. Habe a 7 and 16 yr old, im not trying to make things worse while trying to make them better. Havent responded well to most meds in general or for crohns, hence the prednisone .... ive struggled but maintained composure... but this... is breaking me. Idk what to do but just let it be and do my best with supplements and whatever foods i can eat... Also had all teeth removed from prednisone and some kind of diabetic/blood sugar issue. Yaaaaaay
@@TheKajrak that sounds terrible. And, yes, the side effects from Prednisone can be horrid. I hope you find your answer. Sounds like a competent endocrinologist needs to get involved. One that is progressive. Best to you.
@@mad8298I suppose it is, but feel there's people suffering far more than I. Just to be clear,.not fishing for sympathy, rather any input on another way. Endo is who recommends these meds. I actually like the doc and appreciate how quick and thorough they handle my case. That's kinda rare these days. That all being said, o have a few questions. What's HRT? What made you stop at 9 most with the injections? I'm tapering the Prednisone, again, hoping to be able to complete the titration this time without any flares or "withdraw" requiring I go back up. I'll be honest, methadone was the biggest culprit. Crap nearly killed me. Now I'm getting by with kratom (it's a godsend, the media/FDA spewing related deaths is bs) and small amounts of marijuana which helps a good amount with several issues, but I use it sparingly so it works when I need it to, as well I'm not a big fan of how it makes me feel most of the time. So those and a liquid calcium, magnesium, potassium zinc and de supp, as well as a weekly dose of D2....are my only clear path. The hope is that those combined with the right foods etc, and a diminished and eventual cessation of Prednisone, and cigarette smoking, will be enough to get me back to a "normal" bone density level. Any and all insight is welcomed and appreciated.
My stepmother took Boniva for only 11 months and a couple years later suffered an atypical femur fracture upon twisting her leg simply walking through her yard. The doctors at Duke all agreed it looked exactly like the type of atypical fracture seen with Boniva. It was the first fracture she ever had. I believe she would have been better off never taking the medication. I'll take my chances.
I’m glad I found this information. My doctor wasn’t happy but I educated him. It’s not worth it to me. I’m vegan and wfpb, eat healthy foods, and exercise.
My grandmother passed away years ago from side effects of Fosamax. Kidney failure and Lymphoma. She was told if she exercised, took a multivitamin, and lost some weight she would not need this medication. This was recommended by also a Dr . Within less than 2 years of this medication she passed away at a local hospice.
My mother was taking Fosamax many years ago. until I heard the latest of bone loss in jaws...I immediately told her to stop taking it after being on it for a year..... Well today she's 96..and lost most of her back teeth😢. She really didn't need this medication but her Dr said there was a family history of osteoporosis... You can't listen to what doctors tell u without doing research and trying another method... Today ...my Doctor wants to put me on Prolia....😅.she's got a prayer ..I'm at the gym and built up my bone mass.... So much to Doctors and drug companies!!. Is there a REAL Doctor in the house???
For low BMI people, simply adding body weight helps, and weight training to build muscle is a great way for everyone to strengthen bones. Bisphosphonates disrupt the body’s natural equilibrium of formation and resorption.
My mom got an intracellular nutrition CMA test and it turned out her issue was multiple mineral deficiencies. She eats really well and also juices, but we're thinking she has genetic SNPs that make her require more strontium, vanadium etc. She's taking a trace mineral (Pure Encapsulations) supplement and a strontium supplement now.
this is what i needed to hear. while osteoporosis is mainly common in women, men cna get it to. i have it. im young to have it only 27 years old, today my endo talked to me about starting Fosamx, but told me there were risks like a jaw diseases, dental issues, can make my chronic gerd worse, told me he a bit iffy to give it to me today but said i need to think and learn up on the med for a little bit and see if i want to take the risk then at next appoint in month or two i have to give him an answer. hearing these side effects in the video worries me a bit even if some things are rare or not. treatment dosent sound good. if its considered rare and theres so many side effects that could happen, would u really risk it? or live with the diseases and no treatment?
At 27 years of age, I'd be wanting to find out the cause of the bone loss before taking any meds. That should not be happening unless your osteo is secondary because of something else. It is the "something else" that needs to be addressed especially as you cannot stay on these drugs for the duration of your life.
@ we know a lot of the issues and causes im dealing with. A lot are genetic issues I was born with body missing sertin things it needs I was born without cant fix, I’m very fragile, my bones are, and I’ve been on meds now for a while since my first comment here, It’s a 5 year treatment and then we go from there. I’m 28 now. Yes young for op but it can happen with what I’m dealing with.
Ten million people in the U.S. have osteoporosis; many more have osteopenia. 1 out of 1000 of ten million is 10,000. (Obviously, not everyone takes Fosomax, but it is the most common entry level for the condition, and its related drugs also cause the jaw necrosis.) In the Europe, a rare disease is defined as one that affects less than 1 in 2,000 people.
No matter what , when u get older , your bones become noticeable, if u add an extra 50 +"pounds they going to hurt more ! Y u stay skinny if u can ! 💝🚴
@@proudchristian77 , agreed... I went back to my original weight from college and now my arthritic joints don't hurt anymore. I had a bike accident a few months ago and took a hard hit to the pavement, thankfully, I came out of it eith a concussion and contusions, but no broken bones or teeth. I believe it's because I lost all that weight and my body bounced instead of broke.
@magpiegirl3783 I have very thin bones, and I've been diagnosed with osteoporosis since I was 48. I refuse to take any pharmaceuticals for it, because that silly bone density scanner bases my density on a regular boned 30 year old women. I eat very well and stay active and that's my treatment for my "osteoporosis "
This video was originally part of Dr. Greger's webinar all about osteoporosis. You can watch that full recording, which includes a great Q&A: nutritionfacts.org/webinar/preventing-and-treating-osteoporosis/
I've had osteoporosis for years and the doctors always pushed Osteo drugs, starting with Fosamax, then to other classes of drugs. I usually had a negative reaction to them almost immediately, except Forteo, but then that is a daily shot in the stomach, so I stopped that after 8 months. I now refuse any osteo meds, but had gone back on HRT (I'm low risk there and it is only estrogen since I don't have a uterus or ovaries). My osteoporosis has leveled off and not gotten better or worse for 7 years now, so I am OK with that. I have been a runner for 45 years and plant-based eater, who also supplements with Vit D3 and K2. If that's not enough, so be it.
There's a chapter on HRT in How Not To Age. Interesting reading.
@mad8298 i have crohns disease, and several more issues, and ive had to taken prednisone for over ten years. Now I apparently have osteoporosis and have alread fractured 4 ribs, 2 vertebrae and my hip. Im 45. Habe a 7 and 16 yr old, im not trying to make things worse while trying to make them better. Havent responded well to most meds in general or for crohns, hence the prednisone .... ive struggled but maintained composure... but this... is breaking me. Idk what to do but just let it be and do my best with supplements and whatever foods i can eat...
Also had all teeth removed from prednisone and some kind of diabetic/blood sugar issue.
Yaaaaaay
@@TheKajrak that sounds terrible. And, yes, the side effects from Prednisone can be horrid. I hope you find your answer. Sounds like a competent endocrinologist needs to get involved. One that is progressive. Best to you.
@@mad8298I suppose it is, but feel there's people suffering far more than I. Just to be clear,.not fishing for sympathy, rather any input on another way. Endo is who recommends these meds. I actually like the doc and appreciate how quick and thorough they handle my case. That's kinda rare these days. That all being said, o have a few questions. What's HRT? What made you stop at 9 most with the injections?
I'm tapering the Prednisone, again, hoping to be able to complete the titration this time without any flares or "withdraw" requiring I go back up. I'll be honest, methadone was the biggest culprit. Crap nearly killed me. Now I'm getting by with kratom (it's a godsend, the media/FDA spewing related deaths is bs) and small amounts of marijuana which helps a good amount with several issues, but I use it sparingly so it works when I need it to, as well I'm not a big fan of how it makes me feel most of the time. So those and a liquid calcium, magnesium, potassium zinc and de supp, as well as a weekly dose of D2....are my only clear path. The hope is that those combined with the right foods etc, and a diminished and eventual cessation of Prednisone, and cigarette smoking, will be enough to get me back to a "normal" bone density level.
Any and all insight is welcomed and appreciated.
My stepmother took Boniva for only 11 months and a couple years later suffered an atypical femur fracture upon twisting her leg simply walking through her yard. The doctors at Duke all agreed it looked exactly like the type of atypical fracture seen with Boniva. It was the first fracture she ever had. I believe she would have been better off never taking the medication.
I'll take my chances.
I’m glad I found this information. My doctor wasn’t happy but I educated him. It’s not worth it to me. I’m vegan and wfpb, eat healthy foods, and exercise.
My grandmother passed away years ago from side effects of Fosamax. Kidney failure and Lymphoma. She was told if she exercised, took a multivitamin, and lost some weight she would not need this medication. This was recommended by also a Dr . Within less than 2 years of this medication she passed away at a local hospice.
My mother was on Fosamax. Her thigh bone snapped walking up the stairs. She died a week later in hospital.
So very sad for you and your mom
I am so sorry.
Sincere condolences and heartfelt thanks for sharing her story so others might avoid the same fate.
My mother was taking Fosamax many years ago. until I heard the latest of bone loss in jaws...I immediately told her to stop taking it after being on it for a year.....
Well today she's 96..and lost most of her back teeth😢.
She really didn't need this medication but her Dr said there was a family history of osteoporosis...
You can't listen to what doctors tell u without doing research and trying another method...
Today ...my Doctor wants to put me on Prolia....😅.she's got a prayer
..I'm at the gym and built up my bone mass....
So much to Doctors and drug companies!!.
Is there a REAL Doctor in the house???
I’m so sorry for your loss.
I took Boniva and it caused me to have thickening of the esophagus. Had my throat stretched 6 times already
For low BMI people, simply adding body weight helps, and weight training to build muscle is a great way for everyone to strengthen bones.
Bisphosphonates disrupt the body’s natural equilibrium of formation and resorption.
Skip gaining weight. Weight bearing exercise is enough. Pushing, pulling, carrying things, calisthenics, rowing, paddling, peddling etc.
Those exercises that add muscle will by their nature be adding weight. More lean muscle, better fat metabolism.
My mom got an intracellular nutrition CMA test and it turned out her issue was multiple mineral deficiencies. She eats really well and also juices, but we're thinking she has genetic SNPs that make her require more strontium, vanadium etc. She's taking a trace mineral (Pure Encapsulations) supplement and a strontium supplement now.
Thank you so much for this information.
Thank you so much
this is what i needed to hear. while osteoporosis is mainly common in women, men cna get it to. i have it. im young to have it only 27 years old, today my endo talked to me about starting Fosamx, but told me there were risks like a jaw diseases, dental issues, can make my chronic gerd worse, told me he a bit iffy to give it to me today but said i need to think and learn up on the med for a little bit and see if i want to take the risk then at next appoint in month or two i have to give him an answer. hearing these side effects in the video worries me a bit even if some things are rare or not. treatment dosent sound good. if its considered rare and theres so many side effects that could happen, would u really risk it? or live with the diseases and no treatment?
At 27 years of age, I'd be wanting to find out the cause of the bone loss before taking any meds. That should not be happening unless your osteo is secondary because of something else. It is the "something else" that needs to be addressed especially as you cannot stay on these drugs for the duration of your life.
@ we know a lot of the issues and causes im dealing with. A lot are genetic issues I was born with body missing sertin things it needs I was born without cant fix, I’m very fragile, my bones are, and I’ve been on meds now for a while since my first comment here, It’s a 5 year treatment and then we go from there. I’m 28 now. Yes young for op but it can happen with what I’m dealing with.
I love this channel!
i do not consider 1 in a thousand rare
Ten million people in the U.S. have osteoporosis; many more have osteopenia.
1 out of 1000 of ten million is 10,000. (Obviously, not everyone takes Fosomax, but it is the most common entry level for the condition, and its related drugs also cause the jaw necrosis.)
In the Europe, a rare disease is defined as one that affects less than 1 in 2,000 people.
Please let us know what remedy to take especially if someone has bone loss the worst in the spine ! Please advise
Or they can just take D3
and K2
I have watched this video in 2024 August 17th (Just to remind my future self).
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And what else is it causing throughout your body? 🤔
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No matter what , when u get older , your bones become noticeable, if u add an extra 50 +"pounds they going to hurt more ! Y u stay skinny if u can ! 💝🚴
@@proudchristian77 , agreed... I went back to my original weight from college and now my arthritic joints don't hurt anymore. I had a bike accident a few months ago and took a hard hit to the pavement, thankfully, I came out of it eith a concussion and contusions, but no broken bones or teeth. I believe it's because I lost all that weight and my body bounced instead of broke.
Light framed women are more susceptible to osteoporosis.
@magpiegirl3783 I have very thin bones, and I've been diagnosed with osteoporosis since I was 48. I refuse to take any pharmaceuticals for it, because that silly bone density scanner bases my density on a regular boned 30 year old women. I eat very well and stay active and that's my treatment for my "osteoporosis "
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